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		<title>By: Solkhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solkhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was no wheelchair, he was in it before hand at various times.  Health issues.  I am not sure if that made for Obama to be a bit unsure and over-cautious but the other issue is height, standing a little too far away than he should have - either way it turned out bad and those on the right are trying very hard to cash in on it.

As for Iran, so what can he do, he has condemned the crackdown, anymore and he will set backards the opportunity to communicate with the government there - a serious diplomatic mistake.  The time now is for constructive engagement.  Face it, if Obama had not started the process of constructive engagement with Iran, these demonstrations may not even have happened as they did, so for me the very willingness in his Cairo speech to be the first US President to go out of his way to admit that there is a world out there other than that of the USA has started a process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no wheelchair, he was in it before hand at various times.  Health issues.  I am not sure if that made for Obama to be a bit unsure and over-cautious but the other issue is height, standing a little too far away than he should have &#8211; either way it turned out bad and those on the right are trying very hard to cash in on it.</p>
<p>As for Iran, so what can he do, he has condemned the crackdown, anymore and he will set backards the opportunity to communicate with the government there &#8211; a serious diplomatic mistake.  The time now is for constructive engagement.  Face it, if Obama had not started the process of constructive engagement with Iran, these demonstrations may not even have happened as they did, so for me the very willingness in his Cairo speech to be the first US President to go out of his way to admit that there is a world out there other than that of the USA has started a process.</p>
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		<title>By: chi hair straightener</title>
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		<dc:creator>chi hair straightener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a story.one mother says she’s aware something is very wrong, but she doesn’t want to hear about it because she just wants to “be with her children and see them grow up happy.” I tell her ,“But, if we don’t stop this, your children may not get to grow up at all.” so basically, she’s using her kids as an excuse for her own inability to face reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a story.one mother says she’s aware something is very wrong, but she doesn’t want to hear about it because she just wants to “be with her children and see them grow up happy.” I tell her ,“But, if we don’t stop this, your children may not get to grow up at all.” so basically, she’s using her kids as an excuse for her own inability to face reality.</p>
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		<title>By: SportLife &#187; Obama Fiddles While Iran Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>SportLife &#187; Obama Fiddles While Iran Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and reading the news about what is happening in the streets of Teheran. I’ve also been contacti Go to Source    Leave a comment   Related PostsJune 19, 2009 -- Can Enterprise 2.0 Afford to be Boring? (0)June [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and reading the news about what is happening in the streets of Teheran. I’ve also been contacti Go to Source    Leave a comment   Related PostsJune 19, 2009 &#8212; Can Enterprise 2.0 Afford to be Boring? (0)June [...]</p>
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		<title>By: C. Whipple</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Whipple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is important for us as a country and for our leaders as US citizens to stand up for Freedom everywhere!  Because this is what our basic principles are all about. Whenever anyone here fails to do this they are actively failing themselves.  Humans have a need for freedaom and the USA is the first country ever to fully recognize this fact and impliment it in its laws (Constitution). As our present leader now fails to take a stand for freedom with Iran, ask yourself why? and where that places our country now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is important for us as a country and for our leaders as US citizens to stand up for Freedom everywhere!  Because this is what our basic principles are all about. Whenever anyone here fails to do this they are actively failing themselves.  Humans have a need for freedaom and the USA is the first country ever to fully recognize this fact and impliment it in its laws (Constitution). As our present leader now fails to take a stand for freedom with Iran, ask yourself why? and where that places our country now.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerlad M. D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerlad M. D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it amazing how they were able to count and total hand written cast votes in less time than we can get results in the States with our electronic votes?

The only thing better is publishing the final count before the first vote is even cast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing how they were able to count and total hand written cast votes in less time than we can get results in the States with our electronic votes?</p>
<p>The only thing better is publishing the final count before the first vote is even cast.</p>
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		<title>By: MiamaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiamaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>21. David W. Lincoln:

[For, the best way for one area of life to defend itself from another area of life is to
have a stronger hold on the universal. Which,
to my knowledge, is a succinct summary of Baconism.]

Way before Bacon, his &quot;Idolas&quot; and his &quot;The New Atlantis&quot;, the SANITY of &quot;taking a strong hold on the universal&quot; was extolled in the Vedas, precisely in the Vedanta or Upanishadic philosophy. It is a cornerstone of the Vedantic phylosophy.

Take for example one the shortest, but no less important, The Isha Upanishad (only 18 verses). 

Shloka (verse) 1 states:

&quot;All this is for habitation of the Lord, whatsoever is individual universe of movement in the universal motion. By that renounced thou shouldst enjoy; lust not after any man&#039;s possession.&quot;

and Shloka 2:

&quot;Doing verily works in this world one should wish to live one hundred years. Thus it is in thee and not otherwise than this; action cleaves not to a man.&quot;

WHATSOEVER IS INDIVIDUAL UNIVERSE OF MOVEMENT IN THE UNIVERSAL MOTION: 

a) Requires not regarding the universe as an object of possession.
b) Proposes liberation of the spirit from craving after the forms of things.
c) The terms are freedom from egoism and from personal desires.
d) The attitude is founded on the perception of unity.

Transcending the Ego and realizing the one Self, we possess the whole universe in the one cosmic consciousness, THUS DO NOT NEED TO POSSESS PHYSICALLY. 

So, the winning formula is not to defend oneself from one area of life to another, but, instead, to encompass the realization of the whole life.

This freedom, the Upanishad confirms, does not depend upon inaction; alas, the doing of works in the material world is accepted, without cleaving to its fruits by ceasing to identify oneself with the movements, recovering the true identity in the Self of things who is their Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>21. David W. Lincoln:</p>
<p>[For, the best way for one area of life to defend itself from another area of life is to<br />
have a stronger hold on the universal. Which,<br />
to my knowledge, is a succinct summary of Baconism.]</p>
<p>Way before Bacon, his &#8220;Idolas&#8221; and his &#8220;The New Atlantis&#8221;, the SANITY of &#8220;taking a strong hold on the universal&#8221; was extolled in the Vedas, precisely in the Vedanta or Upanishadic philosophy. It is a cornerstone of the Vedantic phylosophy.</p>
<p>Take for example one the shortest, but no less important, The Isha Upanishad (only 18 verses). </p>
<p>Shloka (verse) 1 states:</p>
<p>&#8220;All this is for habitation of the Lord, whatsoever is individual universe of movement in the universal motion. By that renounced thou shouldst enjoy; lust not after any man&#8217;s possession.&#8221;</p>
<p>and Shloka 2:</p>
<p>&#8220;Doing verily works in this world one should wish to live one hundred years. Thus it is in thee and not otherwise than this; action cleaves not to a man.&#8221;</p>
<p>WHATSOEVER IS INDIVIDUAL UNIVERSE OF MOVEMENT IN THE UNIVERSAL MOTION: </p>
<p>a) Requires not regarding the universe as an object of possession.<br />
b) Proposes liberation of the spirit from craving after the forms of things.<br />
c) The terms are freedom from egoism and from personal desires.<br />
d) The attitude is founded on the perception of unity.</p>
<p>Transcending the Ego and realizing the one Self, we possess the whole universe in the one cosmic consciousness, THUS DO NOT NEED TO POSSESS PHYSICALLY. </p>
<p>So, the winning formula is not to defend oneself from one area of life to another, but, instead, to encompass the realization of the whole life.</p>
<p>This freedom, the Upanishad confirms, does not depend upon inaction; alas, the doing of works in the material world is accepted, without cleaving to its fruits by ceasing to identify oneself with the movements, recovering the true identity in the Self of things who is their Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvie7</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvie7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments are so right and well thought out.  Those kids have the guts to stand up to the authorities unarmed.  They for the most part are not hiding their faces. Some of their confrontations have taken place in and in front of the University.  The same location the Shah sent his Savak in the long ago days before the &quot;revolution.&quot;  These kids are so heroic and inspiring and genuine.  They are refreshing after the staged political campaigns in our country. They want real freedoms, things we enjoy all the time, and take completely for granted.  So where is our new leader?  Where is his passion?  Where is his forceful support for this generation of Iranians. Apparently, no one has scripted it yet.  This is the &quot;Messiah&quot; who mesmerized our youth, youth which has not learned to distinquish between cold reality and the biases of our media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments are so right and well thought out.  Those kids have the guts to stand up to the authorities unarmed.  They for the most part are not hiding their faces. Some of their confrontations have taken place in and in front of the University.  The same location the Shah sent his Savak in the long ago days before the &#8220;revolution.&#8221;  These kids are so heroic and inspiring and genuine.  They are refreshing after the staged political campaigns in our country. They want real freedoms, things we enjoy all the time, and take completely for granted.  So where is our new leader?  Where is his passion?  Where is his forceful support for this generation of Iranians. Apparently, no one has scripted it yet.  This is the &#8220;Messiah&#8221; who mesmerized our youth, youth which has not learned to distinquish between cold reality and the biases of our media.</p>
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		<title>By: David W. Lincoln</title>
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		<dc:creator>David W. Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawrencekohn, sometimes you have to work with what you have.  In other words, go with the bird
in hand, rather than count on getting the two in the bush.

Mousavi could be a transitional figure, but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.  

Just as Dubcek wanted to introduce, &quot;Socialism with a human face&quot;, he learned enough in the 21 years between the &quot;Prague Spring&quot; and the Velvet Revolution, that &quot;Socialism with a human face&quot; makes as much
sense as putting pancake makeup on a corpse.

For, the best way for one area of life to defend itself from another area of life is to
have a stronger hold on the univeral.  Which,
to my knowledge, is a succinct summary of Baconism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrencekohn, sometimes you have to work with what you have.  In other words, go with the bird<br />
in hand, rather than count on getting the two in the bush.</p>
<p>Mousavi could be a transitional figure, but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.  </p>
<p>Just as Dubcek wanted to introduce, &#8220;Socialism with a human face&#8221;, he learned enough in the 21 years between the &#8220;Prague Spring&#8221; and the Velvet Revolution, that &#8220;Socialism with a human face&#8221; makes as much<br />
sense as putting pancake makeup on a corpse.</p>
<p>For, the best way for one area of life to defend itself from another area of life is to<br />
have a stronger hold on the univeral.  Which,<br />
to my knowledge, is a succinct summary of Baconism.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Kohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Kohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just remember Mousavi&#039;s connections to the Tudeh party and Hizballah and the KGB.  Vocal support for Iranians in the street is worthwhile but we really don&#039;t know if genuine democratic forces will emerge or just &quot;reformers&quot; who are not democrats. Yeltsin was not a democrat thought the US thought he was.  We were entranced by the August coup which featured Gorbachev somehow able to make a video broadcast to the world while under house arrest and the black berets somehow just couldn&#039;t bring themselves to shoot Yeltsin on his tank nor even cut his lines of communication. When Yeltsin got in all of Russia&#039;s dictatorial allies continued to be fed weapons and political support and Yeltsin built a new nuclear weapon. He stayed long enough for Russia to be taken into Western economic institutions, for Bush I to end the technology restrictions and Clinton to cut the military. Then off Yeltsin went not before appointing Putin and then the KGB re-emerged publicly. So, what is going on in Iran. We just don&#039;t know. So we need to stress our goals and values but avoid picking a reformist horse and we need to keep our eye on the nuclear ball.  No matter who emerges it is important to set back Iran&#039;s march to nukes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remember Mousavi&#8217;s connections to the Tudeh party and Hizballah and the KGB.  Vocal support for Iranians in the street is worthwhile but we really don&#8217;t know if genuine democratic forces will emerge or just &#8220;reformers&#8221; who are not democrats. Yeltsin was not a democrat thought the US thought he was.  We were entranced by the August coup which featured Gorbachev somehow able to make a video broadcast to the world while under house arrest and the black berets somehow just couldn&#8217;t bring themselves to shoot Yeltsin on his tank nor even cut his lines of communication. When Yeltsin got in all of Russia&#8217;s dictatorial allies continued to be fed weapons and political support and Yeltsin built a new nuclear weapon. He stayed long enough for Russia to be taken into Western economic institutions, for Bush I to end the technology restrictions and Clinton to cut the military. Then off Yeltsin went not before appointing Putin and then the KGB re-emerged publicly. So, what is going on in Iran. We just don&#8217;t know. So we need to stress our goals and values but avoid picking a reformist horse and we need to keep our eye on the nuclear ball.  No matter who emerges it is important to set back Iran&#8217;s march to nukes.</p>
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		<title>By: Greenconsciousness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greenconsciousness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am urging people, especially women, to wear green bracelets in solidarity with our Iran sisters and brothers – will you do it ?  And tell others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am urging people, especially women, to wear green bracelets in solidarity with our Iran sisters and brothers – will you do it ?  And tell others?</p>
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