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		<title>By: Ruvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To my fellow Jews writing in on this article.

Phyllis, we need you here - not in Manhattan.  We need you to ride the buses of Judea and Samaria, to sign books in the College of Judea and Samaria in Ariél, to understand in your gut the risks and fears of my fellow Israelis who have written in here.

We need you to stop using terms like &quot;Palestinian&quot; - giving the el-Husseini liars propaganda victories by granting a false peoplehood to a people who have come to seek work and money - but who are South Syrians or Egyptians - or even former Jews who converted to Islam under pressure of the Turk.

To my fellow Israelis.  I do not know what the future will hold, though I am as certain as many of you that it will be war and not peace.  It is time to give war, and victory a chance - rather than peace.  It is time for us to unite and stand against the traitors who would divide our Holy Land and give it to Arab interlopers; who would bow and scrape before such scum as the European Jew-haters and the garbage known as &quot;the Blessed of Hussein&quot;.  

We must take our fate into our own hands and learn the Greek word used by General Metaxas to the Italians when they demanded Kerkira from the Greeks - &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;ókhi - NO!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;  And then we must stand by our word, with gun, grenade thrower, and rifle in hand, and defend what is ours, paid for by 60 generations of persecution and Exile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my fellow Jews writing in on this article.</p>
<p>Phyllis, we need you here &#8211; not in Manhattan.  We need you to ride the buses of Judea and Samaria, to sign books in the College of Judea and Samaria in Ariél, to understand in your gut the risks and fears of my fellow Israelis who have written in here.</p>
<p>We need you to stop using terms like &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; &#8211; giving the el-Husseini liars propaganda victories by granting a false peoplehood to a people who have come to seek work and money &#8211; but who are South Syrians or Egyptians &#8211; or even former Jews who converted to Islam under pressure of the Turk.</p>
<p>To my fellow Israelis.  I do not know what the future will hold, though I am as certain as many of you that it will be war and not peace.  It is time to give war, and victory a chance &#8211; rather than peace.  It is time for us to unite and stand against the traitors who would divide our Holy Land and give it to Arab interlopers; who would bow and scrape before such scum as the European Jew-haters and the garbage known as &#8220;the Blessed of Hussein&#8221;.  </p>
<p>We must take our fate into our own hands and learn the Greek word used by General Metaxas to the Italians when they demanded Kerkira from the Greeks &#8211; <i><b>ókhi &#8211; NO!</b></i>  And then we must stand by our word, with gun, grenade thrower, and rifle in hand, and defend what is ours, paid for by 60 generations of persecution and Exile.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace O'Malley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace O'Malley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Lord all the way back to Constantine? Next, if I recall my history I believe that France had a Revolution in 1789, and during that Revolution the basic underpinning of the Catholic Church was rooted out. Though the overall Revolution was a failure ultimately, that secularization of the country was not. In fact the secularization was so successful that the government finds it appropriate to ban religious symbols of any kind. Just how Orthodox Catholic was France in 1939 and just how nationalist and how socialist it was instead. 

Why is it some people can never look at the horror socialism has caused? Fascism was not a capitalist enterprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Lord all the way back to Constantine? Next, if I recall my history I believe that France had a Revolution in 1789, and during that Revolution the basic underpinning of the Catholic Church was rooted out. Though the overall Revolution was a failure ultimately, that secularization of the country was not. In fact the secularization was so successful that the government finds it appropriate to ban religious symbols of any kind. Just how Orthodox Catholic was France in 1939 and just how nationalist and how socialist it was instead. </p>
<p>Why is it some people can never look at the horror socialism has caused? Fascism was not a capitalist enterprise.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Nonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Nonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10. shanghaicharlie:Read James Carroll&#039;s &quot;Constantine&#039;s Sword&quot; to better your understanding of the Catholic Church&#039;s hatred of Jews. Constantine decreed that it was perfectly acceptable to kill Jews, providing only that a core of Jews were permitted to survive, so that every generation of Catholics could kill some! Two millenia of inquisitions, pogroms, and the holocaust followed. Coincidence? I don&#039;t think so! BTW--it was not until the 1965 Catholic Schema on the Jews that the Church abandoned the idea that all Jews were personally complicit in the crucifixion, and were fair game for Catholic vengeance. I grew up with the epithet &quot;Christ-killer&quot; ringing in my ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10. shanghaicharlie:Read James Carroll&#8217;s &#8220;Constantine&#8217;s Sword&#8221; to better your understanding of the Catholic Church&#8217;s hatred of Jews. Constantine decreed that it was perfectly acceptable to kill Jews, providing only that a core of Jews were permitted to survive, so that every generation of Catholics could kill some! Two millenia of inquisitions, pogroms, and the holocaust followed. Coincidence? I don&#8217;t think so! BTW&#8211;it was not until the 1965 Catholic Schema on the Jews that the Church abandoned the idea that all Jews were personally complicit in the crucifixion, and were fair game for Catholic vengeance. I grew up with the epithet &#8220;Christ-killer&#8221; ringing in my ears.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie-Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie-Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyway, it&#039;s not in your honor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyway, it&#8217;s not in your honor</p>
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		<title>By: Marie-Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie-Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tiens funny, someone removed my post just right now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tiens funny, someone removed my post just right now</p>
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		<title>By: Marie-Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie-Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, sure someone wants to close my mouth, I tried several attemps with my true pseudo !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, sure someone wants to close my mouth, I tried several attemps with my true pseudo !</p>
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		<title>By: tiens tiens</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiens tiens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hoola, some nice persons wants to close my mouth !

&quot;Yes, Yogi, is it “deja’ vu” all over again re 1914 and 1939, but the difference in 1914 was that the world wasn’t turning a blind eye to the Jews of Europe. In 1939, they did.&quot;

Tell me  if you&#039;re honest here ? which is the very country that started wars ?




&quot;France was one of the countries controlled by the Germans at the early stages of war, but it had a high level of democratic tradition of Liberte, Fraternity and Egalite. In France about 75000 Jews perished out of a population of 350,000, about 70% survived. Many factors contributed to the relatively high survival rate, the most important factor was the attitude of the silent majority, who made it difficult of the Germans to identify and catch the Jews. Even the local police cooperated only reluctantly with the Germans, Jews were provided with false identification papers, given shelter and moral support. Jews also participated massively in the resistance and at the beginning stages about 33% of the resistance fighters were Jewish.&quot;

a witness from a person who really knows the subject, because he experienced it, and this person isn&#039;t pressing on the evil French like most of the smart people that lives in nice NY mansions and appartments  do

now question, why France is always quoted in the first place when &quot;antisemitism&quot; appears on this board ?

isn&#039;t it your political agenda to undermine us ?

now, my previsions, in the long term you&#039;ll fail, cuz why would normal people defend interests of  one party politically sided persons who hate them the most ?

becuz, if you anathemise them, they loose their motivation

Also, not only Jews are targetted, also French people are murdered,or raped, by the same vey barbarics,  and that, that doesn&#039;t interest you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hoola, some nice persons wants to close my mouth !</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, Yogi, is it “deja’ vu” all over again re 1914 and 1939, but the difference in 1914 was that the world wasn’t turning a blind eye to the Jews of Europe. In 1939, they did.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tell me  if you&#8217;re honest here ? which is the very country that started wars ?</p>
<p>&#8220;France was one of the countries controlled by the Germans at the early stages of war, but it had a high level of democratic tradition of Liberte, Fraternity and Egalite. In France about 75000 Jews perished out of a population of 350,000, about 70% survived. Many factors contributed to the relatively high survival rate, the most important factor was the attitude of the silent majority, who made it difficult of the Germans to identify and catch the Jews. Even the local police cooperated only reluctantly with the Germans, Jews were provided with false identification papers, given shelter and moral support. Jews also participated massively in the resistance and at the beginning stages about 33% of the resistance fighters were Jewish.&#8221;</p>
<p>a witness from a person who really knows the subject, because he experienced it, and this person isn&#8217;t pressing on the evil French like most of the smart people that lives in nice NY mansions and appartments  do</p>
<p>now question, why France is always quoted in the first place when &#8220;antisemitism&#8221; appears on this board ?</p>
<p>isn&#8217;t it your political agenda to undermine us ?</p>
<p>now, my previsions, in the long term you&#8217;ll fail, cuz why would normal people defend interests of  one party politically sided persons who hate them the most ?</p>
<p>becuz, if you anathemise them, they loose their motivation</p>
<p>Also, not only Jews are targetted, also French people are murdered,or raped, by the same vey barbarics,  and that, that doesn&#8217;t interest you</p>
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		<title>By: Adina Kutnicki,Israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adina Kutnicki,Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max # 44 - couldn&#039;t agree with you more.

Let me put it very starkly - if heaven forbid Israel goes up in flames, I not only &#039;hope&#039;, but expect that the entire Middle East will be radioactive for centuries, and that Washington implodes like the sinking ship that it already has become. 

As for Europe, it is on its way down to the bowels of hell. It could not happen to a &#039;nicer&#039; people.It is too bad that some real innocents will pay the price for their cowardly silence.

I have no intention of leaving this earth (due to treacherous designs) without taking many others down with me.

Sorry if that offends many sensibilities, but such is life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max # 44 &#8211; couldn&#8217;t agree with you more.</p>
<p>Let me put it very starkly &#8211; if heaven forbid Israel goes up in flames, I not only &#8216;hope&#8217;, but expect that the entire Middle East will be radioactive for centuries, and that Washington implodes like the sinking ship that it already has become. </p>
<p>As for Europe, it is on its way down to the bowels of hell. It could not happen to a &#8216;nicer&#8217; people.It is too bad that some real innocents will pay the price for their cowardly silence.</p>
<p>I have no intention of leaving this earth (due to treacherous designs) without taking many others down with me.</p>
<p>Sorry if that offends many sensibilities, but such is life.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 Rachel Peepers said a lot of what I wanted to say, namely that appeasors, cowardice, greed, and self-delusion are what rules America today and much of Europe.

Yes, Yogi, is it &quot;deja&#039; vu&quot; all over again re 1914 and 1939, but the difference  in 1914 was that the world wasn&#039;t turning a blind eye to the Jews of Europe. In 1939, they did.

Now in 2009, Obama and his band of marxists are doing it all over again, joined in by the ever anti-semitic British, French, Belgians, and Spanish (The Greeks are sitting on the fence right now while the Italians are, well, Italians, but not as dumb as  you think).

Let&#039;s face it folks, nobody gives a damn about the Jews except some Jews (Leave out the J(Jerk) Street crowd, Peace Now, Jews for a Palestinian whatever, etc). Even liberal Jews don&#039;t  care much about Israel. Just look who kissed Obama&#039;s ass at the &quot;friends of Obama&quot; meeting at the White House the other day. They also showed up at the Achmedgenocide dinner held in the New York hotel (Pritzker&#039;s?).

We are on our own, again, as usual. However, help is on its way. The Hondurans, who are now the &quot;Jews of Latin America&quot;, might be the only friend of Israel in L.A. Otherwise, who is left (pardon the pun) on the Latin Left that is NOT anti-Israel, anti-US, and either a communist dictatorship or one in progress (Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Brazil, El Salvador, Nicaragua, with Argentina trailing along, and Chile deciding whether they want another marxist Allende or not).

Check out Europe. Anyone Israel can depend on there, esp. with the onslaught of Islamization that is overwhelming the Old World? Russia? Yeah, right (pardonne, Yeah, Left). Red China? Check out the Moslem countries in Africa. The Moslem countries in the Middle East, and in South Asia, and Indonesia where they don&#039;t even know what a Jew or Israeli looks like.

Running out of countries, aren&#039;t we? Once they get rid of that pesky Jewish state of Israel, it is on to bigger and better things for the Marxist-Islamic Convergence (Just think of the Ribbentrop-Molotov secret treaty of 1938 and Poland). 

Phyllis, you used to run with a very liberal crowd, and like a mindless crowd, now that you have questioned some of their actions and words, they have turned on you. Run, Phyllis, Run. There is almost no one who will stand by you to defend you. Just ask Kitty Genovese.

The new &quot;Z Street&quot; organization is one of the newest Jewish groups to stand up for Israel, but it may be too little, too late.

How do you say &quot;Alamo&quot; in Hebrew? Israel, watch Star Trek, &quot;Doomsday Machine&quot; and then build one of your own. We might as well take a lot of the bastards with us.  Call me Commodore Decker (Dekker, in Yiddish).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 Rachel Peepers said a lot of what I wanted to say, namely that appeasors, cowardice, greed, and self-delusion are what rules America today and much of Europe.</p>
<p>Yes, Yogi, is it &#8220;deja&#8217; vu&#8221; all over again re 1914 and 1939, but the difference  in 1914 was that the world wasn&#8217;t turning a blind eye to the Jews of Europe. In 1939, they did.</p>
<p>Now in 2009, Obama and his band of marxists are doing it all over again, joined in by the ever anti-semitic British, French, Belgians, and Spanish (The Greeks are sitting on the fence right now while the Italians are, well, Italians, but not as dumb as  you think).</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it folks, nobody gives a damn about the Jews except some Jews (Leave out the J(Jerk) Street crowd, Peace Now, Jews for a Palestinian whatever, etc). Even liberal Jews don&#8217;t  care much about Israel. Just look who kissed Obama&#8217;s ass at the &#8220;friends of Obama&#8221; meeting at the White House the other day. They also showed up at the Achmedgenocide dinner held in the New York hotel (Pritzker&#8217;s?).</p>
<p>We are on our own, again, as usual. However, help is on its way. The Hondurans, who are now the &#8220;Jews of Latin America&#8221;, might be the only friend of Israel in L.A. Otherwise, who is left (pardon the pun) on the Latin Left that is NOT anti-Israel, anti-US, and either a communist dictatorship or one in progress (Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Brazil, El Salvador, Nicaragua, with Argentina trailing along, and Chile deciding whether they want another marxist Allende or not).</p>
<p>Check out Europe. Anyone Israel can depend on there, esp. with the onslaught of Islamization that is overwhelming the Old World? Russia? Yeah, right (pardonne, Yeah, Left). Red China? Check out the Moslem countries in Africa. The Moslem countries in the Middle East, and in South Asia, and Indonesia where they don&#8217;t even know what a Jew or Israeli looks like.</p>
<p>Running out of countries, aren&#8217;t we? Once they get rid of that pesky Jewish state of Israel, it is on to bigger and better things for the Marxist-Islamic Convergence (Just think of the Ribbentrop-Molotov secret treaty of 1938 and Poland). </p>
<p>Phyllis, you used to run with a very liberal crowd, and like a mindless crowd, now that you have questioned some of their actions and words, they have turned on you. Run, Phyllis, Run. There is almost no one who will stand by you to defend you. Just ask Kitty Genovese.</p>
<p>The new &#8220;Z Street&#8221; organization is one of the newest Jewish groups to stand up for Israel, but it may be too little, too late.</p>
<p>How do you say &#8220;Alamo&#8221; in Hebrew? Israel, watch Star Trek, &#8220;Doomsday Machine&#8221; and then build one of your own. We might as well take a lot of the bastards with us.  Call me Commodore Decker (Dekker, in Yiddish).</p>
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		<title>By: seansarto</title>
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		<dc:creator>seansarto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus:

All this focus on Palin is a calculated gesture to distract attention away from the scrutiny that should be concetrated at Sonia Sotomayer, who is basically Griselda Blanco’s, “La Madrina”(The Godmother of Miami Cocaine)in judical robes…Her very comment to the extent of “a person can be whatever they want to be” in response to her subversiveness echoes the “Scarface” mentality that is spurring the Mexican drug cartels.
These are not mature individuals of authority…The “Latina” contingent is a collective entity that is endeavoring towards American powers for its own inheritence, not that of its foundation. It does not belong on the Supreme Court. If it should find a place there it is ultimately a failure of the United States judicial process itself, the ability to to discriminate right from wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus:</p>
<p>All this focus on Palin is a calculated gesture to distract attention away from the scrutiny that should be concetrated at Sonia Sotomayer, who is basically Griselda Blanco’s, “La Madrina”(The Godmother of Miami Cocaine)in judical robes…Her very comment to the extent of “a person can be whatever they want to be” in response to her subversiveness echoes the “Scarface” mentality that is spurring the Mexican drug cartels.<br />
These are not mature individuals of authority…The “Latina” contingent is a collective entity that is endeavoring towards American powers for its own inheritence, not that of its foundation. It does not belong on the Supreme Court. If it should find a place there it is ultimately a failure of the United States judicial process itself, the ability to to discriminate right from wrong.</p>
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