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1. Ken Besig Israel:

Islam is at war with the West and Moslems are attacking the West on every front they can. Sure they use car bombs and suicide bombers, but they also use the courts, the public school system, the newspapers, the TV’s and the radios to sue, defame, delegitimize, harass, and bankrupt anyone who dares to stand up to them. Most Westerners are still too naive to believe that any religious group could be so vicious and abusive and thus the courts and the schools try to be fair and just while the Moslems laugh themselves sick at just how gullible these infidels are. The West is losing and big time too!

Oct 15, 2009 - 10:59 am 2. David W. Lincoln:

Any means is kosher in the eyes of those who divide the world into the dar al Harb and the dar al Islam.

Death to those who make that division!

Oct 15, 2009 - 11:02 am 3. George Jochnowitz:

Children are human beings and should be entitled to human rights by law. They should be allowed to divorce their parents. Custody, at this point in history, is a status reserved for children and criminals. However, being a child is not the same thing as being a criminal. When parents are having a battle over the custody of a child, the child should not be put into custody, but should choose a parent to live with.

Oct 15, 2009 - 11:16 am 4. MiamaMan:

Thanks Phyllis for shedding light on such important problem as the Muslim Mafia and especially CAIR (brown shirt Muslims).

By now, though, anyone in America with a little bit of common sense, honesty, patriotic inclination, know what Muslims are capable of, fueled by their disdain of the infidel, darkly propelled by a pungent sense of inferiority which often compensates in forms not suitable for civil intercourse with others.

A comment, besides this Muslim Mafia. Almost every group of immigrants, one time or another form some illegal organization or Mafia in the United States. The Cubans have had a Mafia, oh, yes. The Puerto Ricans too, look at the gang members in Chicago and New York. The Mexicans? Well, no comments. The Salvadoreans produced the scariest gang in history: The Mara Salvatrucha. The Colombians we know have also an inclination for the Mafiosi. Italians, the Maestros. The Russians are Mafia themselves. The Pakistani Mafia excels in Hashish contraband. The Serbian too like to organize themselves in Mafia style, even the peaceful Bulgarians. The Irish, again no comments. The Chinese, I refer to Chinatown, and on and on.

However, I do not know of a Hindu Indian Mafia. I rarely see Indian Hindus immigrants in the US (a million or so) on the news for Mafia activity (notice I can’t vouch for Indian Muslims, they are another breed apart). It appears that this group is probably one of the best immigrant groups ever to have graced the shores of America.

It is not far-fetched to state that we may have an ethnic Indian president of the US in the near future: Bobby Jindal. Bobby, whose real Indian name is Piyush (of course you can’t be President here with that name, I mean, not yet), converted to Catholicism from Hinduism (of course, you can’t be President here being a Hindu, I mean, not yet), which was an intelligent and interesting political metamorphosis, but one that did not include thorough lying as Mr. Obama did in his so-called autobiography, and often in most of his life to cover and deceit.

Finally, please just compare these 2 parallel organizations in the United States, CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations), and the HAF (The Hindu American Foundation); for the former has been associated by the FBI with Muslim Extremism, with lying, cheating, while the latter is the epitome of honesty, self-restrain, civil discourse.

Oct 15, 2009 - 11:38 am 5. gordo12:

Where does Obama fit in?

Oh, yea, he supports their cause.

Oct 15, 2009 - 12:00 pm 6. Barb:

The head of our largest mosque here in Cleveland was deported for his terrorist connections and financing. And he was thought to be level headed and a model citizen. I never would have believed what kind of hateful preaching went on in some churches and mosques until I heard Mr. Wright.

Oct 15, 2009 - 12:00 pm 7. Thomas_L.....:

The Muslim Soviet might be a better title. The Italian Mafia wanted to make money and obtain power to protect their interests not to turn the entire world into Roman Catholic martyrs, by force.

Oct 15, 2009 - 12:12 pm 8. Bilgeman:

Ms. Chesler:
“If the Barys are here illegally, someone should help Rifqa apply for political asylum on the grounds that she will be honor murdered not only for apostasy but for publicly exposing the truth about her family and perhaps the truth about the kind of Islam CAIR represents.”

If Rifqa Bary is murdered because of her Christian faith, then she is, by Christian definition, a Martyr for Christ.

Kudos to the authors of this book.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Perhaps it will illuminate their endarkened minds so that they perceive that the Islamic Fundamentalist Extremism that promotes the oppressing and enslaving of their womenfolk and murder of their own children represents the truest form of Islamophobia, which, carried to it’s extreme, will result in the self-extinction of people of Muslim faith.

Oct 15, 2009 - 12:46 pm 9. Iftikhar:

I have been campaigning for state funded Muslim schools since 70s but neither the Muslim community nor the British Government paid any attention to my proposal.

Bilingual Muslim children need to learn standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher stuies and research to serve humanity. They need to learn Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry.. State schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers have been mis-educating and de-educating Muslim children for a long time. Majority of them leave schools with low grades. They find themselves cut off from their cultural roots, literature and poetry. All of them suffer for identity crises. They do not know where they belong.

Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools.

British tax-payers have been funding nearly 7000 Church schools for a long time and not a single Brit ever raised his finger against them.

Now Muslim community has the right to demand state funded Muslim schools for their bilingual children and each and every Tom and Harry do not want to see state funded Muslim schools. If Muslims have their own school that’s indoctrination and segregation, according to British society.

State schools with monolingual non-Muslim teachers have been mis-educating and de-educating Muslim children for the last 60 years. Majority of them leave schools with low grades. They find themselves cut off from their cultural roots and are unable to enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry.

British schooling is the home of institutional racism and native teachers are chicken racist. This is the main reason why all minority groups would like to have their own state funded schools with their own teachers. Now Hindu community has set up the first state funded school in Harrow and next year in Leicester. Black community is also thinking and planning a school for their children with black teachers as role models.

According to a recent report, Muslim schools performed best overall, although they constitute only a fraction of the country’s 7000 schools. Muslim schools do well because of their Islamic ethos and a focus on traditional discipline and teaching methods. They teach children what is right and what is wrong, because young children need structured guidance.

We would like all Muslim children to be educated in Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models. They need to learn and be well versed in standard English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. After leaving Muslim schools they can decide whether to follow their own culture and faith or follow western culture and way of life. For the time being they have no choice. All of them suffer from identity crises. They do not know where they belong.

Please visit http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk for more information on this crucial and complicated issue.
Iftikhar Ahmad

Oct 15, 2009 - 12:57 pm 10. Hans Mcmarble:

http://www.TheThirdJihad.com
http://www.TheReligionOfPeace.com
http://www.FaithFreedom.org

We have known this for a very long time, But Americans will be Americans. There is a saying in the middle-east, first comes saturday, then comes sunday. That means first Islam will deal with the jews and then come the christains. Good Luck

Oct 15, 2009 - 1:21 pm 11. MiamaMan:

9. Iftikhar:

Sir, your thinking represents what we have come to fear in the West from you and your intolerant religion.

Please allow me:

1) [British tax-payers have been funding nearly 7000 Church schools for a long time and not a single Brit ever raised his finger against them.]

Were these churches Christian? Have you forgotten that Britain is a Christian nation? That you people were invited in as immigrants? Where are you from? Are you from Pakistan, Bangladesh, or any other of the Muslim countries where no Christian church, let alone schools are allowed?

3) [We would like all Muslim children to be educated in Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models.]

No problem, but not in the West, go back to the Islamic stone age and do that there.

2) [Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.]

This is fine where they come from, but we don’t want this in the US, for it creates cultural enclaves that resist assimilation, and end up playing to intolerance and Muslim fundamentalism.

4) [Now Muslim community has the right to demand state funded Muslim schools for their bilingual children and each and every Tom and Harry do not want to see state funded Muslim schools.]

And you blame Tom and Harry, Mister Ahmad?

5) [Now Hindu community has set up the first state funded school in Harrow and next year in Leicester.]

Yes, Ahmad, Tom and Harry know the Hindus don’t go around blowing up innocent people in the London Sub, nor preach hate in their temples against the country that was gracious in allowing them as immigrants to try for a better life.

Sir, you have a strong case of delusion, and show a strong form of ingratitude.

Oct 15, 2009 - 1:39 pm 12. Professor Guvinoff:

Before 9/11, most of us were completely ignorant about Islam, except perhaps for spelling it right. Since that time, many of us have read scholars like Robert Spencer, Aayan Hirsi Ali, Phyllis Chesler, Raymond Ibrahim and others, and we start to understand what’s in it, behind the name.

There is so much intellectual comfort in assuming a benign Islam, it will take time and effort before we all realize the seriousness of the threat, including the threat to the muslims among us.

A good first step would be to abandon the crazy idea that we should allow crimes committed in our land to be resolved by any laws other than our own. The concept is simple enough: If you come to America, you are under American law. Nobody forced you to come here, and you can return to were you come from if our laws are not good enough for you. Our justice system apparently has not quite understood this, yet, (although the FBI did recently sever its ties with CAIR), and it won’t be acted upon until enough of us demand it.

Thank you, Ms. Chesler, for illuminating the situation.

Oct 15, 2009 - 2:02 pm 13. Silence Do Good:

Let’s take a stroll down “history lane.”

General George Patton: “It seems to me a certainty that the fatalistic teachings of Mohammed and the utter degradation of the Arab women are the outstanding causes for the arrested development of the Arab. He is exactly as he was around the year 700, while we have been developing.”

Sir Winston Churchill: “No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

President John Quincy Adams; “In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth.[ ...]He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Adam’s capital letters).”"

Oct 15, 2009 - 2:04 pm 14. gus3:

“She has chosen a Christian God, which… is a capital crime among fundamentalist Muslims.”

Is there any branch of Islam which does *not* hold apostasy to be a capital crime?

Oct 15, 2009 - 2:46 pm 15. Ruvy:

For quite some time, certain Muslims have been condemning the Wahhabi heresy that has taken over Islam and turned it into a nightmare world-wide. In not too long, Cracking the Qur’an Code, by Lowell Gallin of the Root & Branch Association, Ltd, a book that deals in part with this, will be out and available and deal in some detail with the heresies of the Wahhabi, the “Muslim” Brotherhood, al-Qaeda, CAIR and other groups that have all usurped legitimate Islam since the ibn-Saud family took over Arabia in the mid 1920’s with American banking money.

This is not the focus of the book, but western readers would do well to focus on it.

Oct 15, 2009 - 2:47 pm 16. biblio44:

1. Ken Besig Israel: “…the courts and the schools try to be fair and just while the Moslems laugh themselves sick at just how gullible these infidels are.”

Let them laugh. And let our courts and schools continue to be fair.

4. MiamaMan: “…please just compare these 2 parallel organizations in the United States, CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations), and the HAF (The Hindu American Foundation)….”

And then compare them with the AAA (American Automobile Association). I mean, why not?

Oct 15, 2009 - 3:26 pm 17. Bilgeman:

#9 Iftikhar:
“I have been campaigning for state funded Muslim schools since 70s but neither the Muslim community nor the British Government paid any attention to my proposal.”

And we do not really care what you’ve been agitating Parliament for.

This is an American blog, not a British one.
Young Ms. Bary is subject to American courts’ jurisdiction, not the Queen’s Justice.

Perhaps you should worry less about state funding of religious instruction and more about achieving a modicum of competence in geography.

“We would like all Muslim children to be educated in Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models. ”

Very well then, may I suggest that you displace yourself and your children back to whatever Muslim country you came from?

It has been my personal experience that the schools in such lands are remarkably homogenous in that regard.

Oct 15, 2009 - 3:45 pm 18. Moho:

Trust me, Chesler, it would me more charitable to label you delusional or gullible. But those labels are for the idiots who buy your bs. You’re a demagogue and a liar. Not even a good writer.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28283.html
“We would love to help people find jobs on Capitol Hill,” said Ibrahim Hooper, the communications director for CAIR. “There’s a Muslim Staffer Association. Should they be investigated?”

The proclamation from the four Republicans came in advance of a book, entitled “Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America,”…The lawmakers also released a one page “strategy” document they said they obtained from CAIR. But the document basically lays out a fairly straight forward public relations and lobbying strategy and indeed, one of the goals is “placing Muslim interns in congressional offices” and registering people to vote.

Hooper ridiculed the claims.

“All they can come up with is that we are political active?” Hooper asked. “The terror threat is that Muslims are politically active?”

Democrats weren’t amused by the accusations, and Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) said she was “appalled” by the situation.

Hooper pointed out that there are indeed many Muslim staffers on Capitol Hill, CAIR is a lobbying organization, and its executive director is on Capitol Hill today — speaking at an interfaith forum on health care with other religious groups in the Rayburn building.

I pity your readers. Nothing will come of this. But the critical faculties they sacrifice on the altar of bigotry, the pleasure they derive from pointing fingers at the other, can’t be undone. What a waste of already insignificant lives.

Oct 15, 2009 - 3:46 pm 19. Lou Santacroce:

Muslim men who beat their wives should be treated different(ly) by the public at large and by police.”

I agree. They should be charged with attempted murder, since murdering their wives (and daughters) is what they are attempting to do.

Oct 15, 2009 - 3:52 pm 20. David W. Lincoln:

Miami Man, on a different note, I want your take on the situation. Given the similarities between the Sinhalese and Tamil “troubles” and the tensions between Sikh & Hindu, where are both sides in the wrong? And then, where are they in the right?

For there is a Sikh member of the Canadian Parliament from one of Toronto’s suburbs that hasn’t answered these questions, and that was done right about the time of the long time leader of the Tamil Tigers was produced dead.

For, I am inclined to conclude that man’s inhumanity to man comes in various guises.

Oct 15, 2009 - 4:19 pm 21. Leatherneck:

CAIR, The Muslim brotherhood, Hamas, Hizboallah, Iran, AQ, are only following Mohammed’s orders, and doing so in the name of a false moon god called allah.

ROPMA!

All you posters who do not agree with CAIR, are full of hate.

Sarc/off

Oct 15, 2009 - 5:12 pm 22. Hugh:

Dear Phyllis:Your “process” is wonderfull to behold- I,on the other hand,even @ 60yrs of age am having such difficulty controlling my rage@ the banal excrescence of the vapid ARAB islamofreak fraternity/kulture.These humans are so breathtakingly base and retrograde…they cannot even originate a bloody religion(sorry my Englishness is peeking thu)-islam is such a “threadbare johnnie-come-lately” Abrahamic pile of nonsense. Still, I ask: where is the Feminist Outrage- oh right, it was G.W.Bush’s fault- so, tell me again, why were the WTC towers incinerated? Does islam rage against the darkness?Or, does it light a candle…oh, right, I forgot-THAT’s an ancient Hebrew value.As non-PC as it might be:I continue to evolve to the conclusion that islam is truely the anti-Christ.Salam,baby!

Oct 15, 2009 - 5:34 pm 23. Nozuf Goldencalf:

It is Islam against everybody else, no matter what the whitewashers at CAIR say. Without the funding of extreme Islamic organizations through the treasuries of the gulf states, efforts by these organizations in the west and elsewhere would dry up like a camel turd on hot sand.
It is through our insatiable appetite for the oil that the financiers of Mohammedan mayhem are able to fund these odious efforts. Let’s cut the source of Islamist terrorist financing off at the source and develop alternate ways of fueling our economy. The more we diddle around energy development, the more of our dollars go into their coffers so they can come over and curtail our freedoms.

Oct 15, 2009 - 5:41 pm 24. tanstaafl:

CAIR is made up of ideological slobs.

As ideological slobs will, besides their other jihad friendly agenda, they are likely attempting to plant people favorable to their ideological slobbery inside American political institutions, such as US Congressional committees.

These people are pigs

Oct 15, 2009 - 7:26 pm 25. Muslim Mafia Muslim Mafia Exposed:

[...] Mafia Exposed Muslim Mafia Exposed by Phyllis [...]

Oct 15, 2009 - 7:48 pm 26. tanstaafl:

#9, iftikhst

Intellect is intellect. It doesn’t need a designation “Muslim” or otherwise.

As we speak, children in Muslim schools (see particularly madrassas in Pakistan, reading and studying nothing but the Koran in a language they don’t even speak) are being deprived of a wide world of inquiry and understanding.

I have nothing to learn from the self-interested, self-promoting meanderings of the Prophet Mohammed, writings committed to paper some 150 years after his death.

I only observe that your Prophet (PBUH) received some very, very ! user friendly advice from Allah that was extraordinarily helpful to his own maurauding, woman seizing lifestyle.

Oct 15, 2009 - 7:55 pm 27. David W. Lincoln:

On a related note, we have this going on: http://www.worldthreats.com/?p=1731

Oct 15, 2009 - 8:19 pm 28. westerncanadian:

In Canada and the US, church (religion) and state are separated. In each country there is one system of law that applies to everyone who legally resides there and to the governing authorities, regardless of what religion they may follow. If the governments and the legal residents of both countries upheld these principles and simply acted upon them, then these “I’m special so I’m outside the law” people wouldn’t get a hearing. Now I worship tadpoles but that doesn’t mean everyone else in Canada has to dump the legal system on which the country was founded and suddenly follow Tadpole Law. Next week I may worship daisies – what then?

Oct 15, 2009 - 8:53 pm 29. Pajamas Media » CAIR: The Muslim Mafia Exposed:

[...] Read the entire article here. [...]

Oct 15, 2009 - 11:07 pm 30. IdahoGal:

Iftikhar: I’m sorry, but when you move to another country, you leave your “culture” behind. You will always have your ethnicity, but your culture belongs in your home country. You have moved to another country that has it’s own culture – a culture it’s proud of and one that anyone moving there should adopt. Otherwise, stay home.

Oct 15, 2009 - 11:31 pm 31. logos1j1:

Phyllis,
Femicide! Really! This is the problem! And “Sharia Islam”! To quote Col. Jessep from A Few Good Men, “Is there another KIND?!” I swear you are devolving further into fem-inane-ity since I first started reading you. “Well gosh, lets get them to stop killing women for not wearing hijabs and then it’ll be a wonderful addition to our religious mosaic!” Yeah. I’m losing patience. Ultimately they will kill ANYONE who disagrees with them NOT JUST WOMEN because that’s what the man on the moon told their panty-wearing, camel-rustling prophet to do.

CAIR is practicing taqiyya – deceit- a core doctrine at the root of this
insidious and violent religion. Read Raymond Ibrahim’s fine analysis of this at his website. (raymondibrahim.com. Too often links are stripped out, but anyway, there it is. You’ll have to scroll down to find the articles.)

westerncanadian, 28
Wait till you get to poppies!

Oct 16, 2009 - 2:17 am 32. Daar:

Islam is not a religion in the sense that it can be separated from the state. As individuals they can be integrated and assimilated but once they form a group they somehow get transformed into “Islam against everybody else”. They move with their plans using all the tools available. I don’t think they will dare fight the Chinese authorities .

Oct 16, 2009 - 2:33 am 33. chanderbaul:

The problems for muslims is nothing but islam only. Muhammad had presented allah as a god who will kill all oppenents, put them in hell, collect jizya from the kufrs, women should be beaten/directed/ruled/ridiculed by men, allah want all to believe the korancrap 100%, earth is flat and sun sets in a pond, ants speak, kufrs should be subdued with all means, allah likes 5 times prayer, trip to meccah etc., etc., all BS and crap not fitting to the present era. Islam has to be subdued to the maximum that the muslims should be ashemed about the religion, day and night everywhere. All the best for Kufrs and kufr kingdoms.

Oct 16, 2009 - 4:04 am 34. MiamaMan:

16. biblio44:

[4. MiamaMan: “…please just compare these 2 parallel organizations in the United States, CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations), and the HAF (The Hindu American Foundation)….”

And then compare them with the AAA (American Automobile Association). I mean, why not?]

Because, as you know, both CAIR and HAF are social organizations charged with advancing the views and “rights” of a particular community or religion, AAA is the one that tow cars, provide auto insurance. Did you know that, ha, ha?

Now that we are comparing apples and oranges, and following on your logic, why not compare you with Ronald McDonald or Humpty Dumpty, or even Saul Alinsky, yes…why not?

Oct 16, 2009 - 4:23 am 35. MiamaMan:

20. David W. Lincoln:

I wish you could ask, explain things, in a more straightforward manner, without all the circumlocutions, labyrinths logic, in summary…did you take Technical Writing 101 in college? Or that was too long ago? Just a comment.

Let’s see. Tamil trouble, are you referring to the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, it is not clear. Luckily for Sri Lanka this problem is subsiding.

Tension between Sikhs and Hindus has decreased dramatically in India (current Prime Minister Singh is Sikh), as soon as the Sikhs found out India would not continues on the constant partition path (Sikhs wanted to separate within the remaining Indian Punjab). Indira Gandhi’s assault on their sacred temple was a bit too harsh, and she was told after that to dump her Sikh bodyguards right away, that she did not was to her demise.

No opinion on the Sikh parliamentary from Toronto…was he a Taxi driver before that?

Your assertion:

[For, I am inclined to conclude that man’s inhumanity to man comes in various guises.]

Yes, of course, you are correct. For example, the number one danger for women in the whole world, including the US, is not the proverbial wolf, or the Werewolfs of London (Warren Zevon or not), the Chupacabra, or even Ted Bundy, but the regular, semi-lunatic, average Joe. Luckily I sport a penis since birth, for if I were a woman here, I would carry a concealed weapon license and a nice Walter PPK.

Oct 16, 2009 - 4:47 am 36. Jaladhi:

The authors state:“This is not a book about Islam or about Muslims in general. It is about the threat known from Shariah Islam and violent jihad propagated by a criminal class of Muslims known as the Muslim Brotherhood or the ‘Ikhwan mafia.’ This secretive organization dominates most established Muslim groups and mosques in America while exploiting, manipulating, and even victimizing law-abiding Muslim Americans. Only a share of the world’s 1.3 billion Muslims are part of this dangerous group. This book is about them.”

On the other hand this is about all Muslims. The cautionary note by the authors is wrong!!! The book exposes Muslim mindset and all Muslims think along the lines of the so called tiny minority of “mafia” group. This tiny minority consists of the entire Muslim population of the world, no doubt about it. Tell me where in the world you find Muslims who have given up shariah and jihad which are the cornerstones of Islam and without which Islam won’t be Islam and it’s followers might behave like normal human beings if they give them up!!!

Oct 16, 2009 - 6:42 am 37. MiamaMan:

We should fight the Islamic garbage with everything we’ve got.

I advocate we follow closely on the steps of Churchill’s speech when facing the Nazi onslaught.

“We shall fight them on the beaches, we shall fight them on the streets…we shall never surrender”.

We should shame this Evil Religion any form we can, personally when talking to others, including them, by supporting organizations, webpages, blogs, like Dr. Pipes, Horowitz, Robert Spencer, Jamie Glazov, Geert Wilders, not only morally, but more importantly FINANCIALLY. We should constantly stress the evil of Islam to family members and friends, attend meetings, conventions, Tea Parties or whatever they are called against them, we should often write to our lawmakers stressing the evils of Sharia Law, the backwardness and danger it poses to free societies. We shall be careful when electing officials that turn a blind eye on CAIR, ACORN, and likewise organizations, who whitewash the dangers of Islam, and yes, this refers to not re-electing Mr. Obama.

Oct 16, 2009 - 7:42 am 38. Blackwater:

Even when I used to be an ultra-leftist I still would have steered clear from these obvious islamofacists. Their uncovered secret manifesto speaks for itself. Their defense and acceptance of CAIR shows just how crazy and dangerous their self-destructive leftist world view really is.

Oct 16, 2009 - 8:22 am 39. Bear:

Regardless of your google backed OPINION, moho, why don’t you drop the name calling? I pity you.

I learned at an early age, to limit my trust to reliable sources, with some healthy skepticism either way. I do however believe my lying eyes at times, facades notwithstanding.

Oct 16, 2009 - 9:21 am 40. Right as well as Correct:

“As far as we’re concerned, until the motive is proven in a court of law, this is [just] a homicide,” Mustafaa Carroll, the executive director of the Council of American-Islamic Relations in Dallas, told FOXNews.com.

Mustafaa Carroll will speak to FOX News but President Obama won’t. Go Figure.

Oct 16, 2009 - 11:01 am 41. Larsen E. Whipsnade:

14. gus3: “Is there any branch of Islam which does *not* hold apostasy to be a capital crime?”

I’m going to go out on a limb here: for the most part, the Ismaili muslims are able to integrate and cooperate with Christian communities, and they don’t indulge in these outrageous honor crimes. They join in local youth sports, and get involved in the Chamber of Commerce, PTA, etc. Why, my local Ismaili mechanic even gave me a gift of a bottle of wine last Christmas!

Oct 16, 2009 - 12:32 pm 42. David W. Lincoln:

Miami Man, the Sikh MP from the Toronto area is a chiropractor, and she was in at least one Bollywood film.

She didn’t want to put on paper her take on the situation. So, what you said helps, but I was hoping for more.

Staying with Sri Lanka, the Sinhalese (who are the majority) emigrated from Northern India and they tend to be Buddhist. The Tamils came from Southern India, later on, and
they tend to be Muslim. Given the very long history of castes within India, it looks like more was invested in the distinctions when Tamil and Sinhalese are compared, rather than
what they have in common. So far, so good?

Oct 16, 2009 - 12:44 pm 43. MiamaMan:

42. David W. Lincoln:

OK, David, I got you.

I am not familiar with Sri Lanka, above and beyond the Ramayana and that mighty monkey Hanuman, who cleared the straight with one jump to rescue Sita from Asura Ravana who had taken her from Rama.

I know the Sinhalese were Buddhist, and trace their origin to northern India, but I did not know the Tamils there favored Islam, for there is little Islamic influence in the Tamil Nadu, where they came from to Sri Lanka to work in the tea plantations, and this I know by experience, as I have traveled extensively there, especially in the area south of Chennai, and around Pudducherry and Auroville (Pondicherry) and Tiruvannamalai and the Ramana Maharshi Ashram and mighty temple Arunachaleswara. Tamil Nadu is Dravidian land and predominantly Hindu (Muslims could never get this south permanently), and there are more Christian there now than Muslims. By the way, very, very few Sikhs in Tamil Nadu too. So, however terrorists, I think Tamil Tigers are predominantly Hindus, if anything, if not Marxists. Anyhow, I am glad this conflict is finally dwindling.

Well, for what I know, I think the division between these 2 peoples in Sri Lanka is more economics and one of exploitation than caste. The Sinhalese are famous for being lazy. The Tamils were brought almost in servitude during British times to work the tea plantations, and could not get ahead easily in that society because the majority would not let them.

The castes, for example, are terribly entrenched among the Tamils themselves. Buddhists are usually not into it, but India has practically no Buddhism left in her territory, after Shankacharya took upon himself to chase it out.

Current caste system is an abomination and a constant black eye for India. It served its purpose many, many years ago, but once it became hereditary, it turned into a tool of ignorance, oppression, and prejudice, on that regard the Mahatma was quite clear.

Oct 16, 2009 - 4:02 pm 44. Noskilz:

Will the NY Times review this book?

Oct 16, 2009 - 4:28 pm 45. westerncanadian:

#42 David W. Lincoln

Tamils are nearly all Hindus.

Oct 16, 2009 - 6:24 pm 46. Banned by Huffpo:

The American left loves Islam.

Hmmmmm.

Maybe they hope that someday they, too, can throw acid in the face of a young person desperate to get an education, kill anyone who is not of “the faith,” and feel righteous.

Hmmmmm. Barrack Hussein Obama . . . mmmmm, mmmm, mmmmm.

Oct 16, 2009 - 6:54 pm 47. Moho:

Bear:

I doubt you understand the meaning of the term “reliable sources”.

Oct 17, 2009 - 9:57 am 48. David W. Lincoln:

point taken, westerncanadian. Either way, the distinctions between the Tamils & Sinhalese are taken too far. Now, Miami man, can the same be said about between the Sikhs & Hindis?

Oct 17, 2009 - 7:45 pm 49. Moho:

I’m laughing at the anemic commentary here. Forty seven comments while other stories published the same day have a 150 or more. Is it possible that even the dumb hillbillies that frequent this place can’t abide this disturbingly absurd spectacle? Maybe there’s hope after all…

Oct 17, 2009 - 7:55 pm 50. MiamaMan:

49. Moho:

Moho, it is the quality stupid!

Do you count with your toes?

48. David W. Lincoln:

Namaste and Happy Diwali!

Sikhs are considered Hindus (not Hindis, Hindi is of a few Sanskritic languages from India). However, Sikhism was an attempt to synthesize Hinduism and Islam. It was also a martial attempt, and as such Sikhs, as the Spartans previously, finally became the sword of Hinduism, especially in the north, and around the Punjab, much worst would have been the Islamic onslaught there, but for their martial contribution, Guru Nanak being the first Sikh Guru.

Oct 17, 2009 - 10:33 pm 51. Gary Rosen:

“the dumb hillbillies that frequent this place”

Shmoho, I have a far higher IQ than you and make way more money than you. Care to comment on the Hamas charter that calls explicitly for the murder of Jews?

Oct 18, 2009 - 1:01 am 52. Moho:

Gary Rosen. We both know that if you had any reason to believe you were smarter than I, you’d keep the opinion to yourself. Nothing says dumb person louder than someone claiming they have a big “IQ” or that they know their “IQ” is bigger than that of others. You have no idea how much money I make either–claiming that you do know something that can’t be established is another way of stating that you struggle with logic. As for the HAMAS charter, I don’t give a sh^t what it calls for. The absolute reality is that the death toll for Palestinians is higher by a factor of four or five compared to Israel, while Palestinians have half the population. I don’t care if the HAMAS charter says they want to cook little babies in sesame oil, I’m concerned over the reality, not the rhetoric.

Oct 18, 2009 - 1:44 pm 53. iskarib:

http://www.TheThirdJihad.com
http://www.TheReligionOfPeace.com
http://www.FaithFreedom.org

Please look into these sites and see the real truth about Islam.

Mohammed married Aisha when she was 6 years old and penetrated her at the age of 8 years and 9 months and mohammed was 57 years old at the time.

Mohammed married his adapted son’s wife, today its called INCEST, I believe back then for mohammed it was called LUST !!! see websites

Oct 18, 2009 - 5:29 pm 54. Gary Rosen:

“claiming that you do know something that can’t be established is another way of stating that you struggle with logic”

Care to make a bet?

“The absolute reality is that the death toll for Palestinians is higher by a factor of four or five compared to Israel, while Palestinians have half the population.”

There are two reasons for that: 1) Hamas uses its people as human shields while Israel tries to protect its own citizens (including Arab Israelis who have often been victimized by Palestinian suicide bombings) and 2) Israel has an overwhelming advantage in firepower over the Palestinians, which is fortunate not only for Israelis but for Palestinians as well considering the brutality typical of Arab regimes.

“I don’t care if the HAMAS charter says they want to cook little babies in sesame oil”

Can’t say I’m surprised.

Oct 18, 2009 - 10:30 pm 55. Gary Rosen:

Oh, I left out the third reason for the “death toll ratio” – a large number of the Palestinian “victims” are in fact those engaging in military action against Israel and its citizens.

Oct 18, 2009 - 10:33 pm 56. shilpy:

USA needs to demand a two way street with Islam. The Saudi king won’t allow church in Saudi Arabia, and yet would fund mosques in USA. The Muslims in USA can proslytize in USA. It is time USA demanded and got the same in Jeddah and Riyadh. Let’s have even playing field in the Islamic countries, particularly in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Let the best religion win – peacefully.

Oct 19, 2009 - 3:33 pm 57. Jack in Silver Spring:

Thomas L @7 and Daar @32 are quite correct. In a nutshell, Islam is not a religion, it is a political movement. Its members will use all sorts of ruses to misconstrue and confuse the issue and they will lie to non-Muslims because that is what the Koran permits them to do.

Oct 19, 2009 - 4:25 pm 58. g Tyndall:

Blood of the Lambs written by Kamal Saleem is an outstanding book that reveals from one of its own brotherhood people. There are others that have “come out” of that way of life, also, who make speeches around the country informing people about this very thing. But, most people don’t believe them. Sad, that so many people are blind to the truth.

Oct 20, 2009 - 5:37 am 59. Shally:

MiaMaMan, Well ,written to the point reply to Iftikhar boy. These guy always complain about others overlooking their own problems.

Oct 21, 2009 - 10:01 am

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