Yeah, if you like the color of crime and gangs. And spending billions of dollars in social services. And putting tremendous downward pressure on wages. And heck, if you like the color of millions of illegitimate children, then immigration’s for you!

Mira Flomin
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Just look at the Serbs in Kosovo. From majority to minority in less than a century. Imprisoned by Muslim Albanians in little ghettos, not allowed to attend schools, partake in economic activity, governance, free movement or anything resembling normal existence.

Mind you all of this paid for and sponsored by our liberal, socialist overlords.

C’mon, Fudd, tell us about the “heart and courage” of your boy Kuntar. That’s your idea of heart and courage, some Islamic savage smashing the head of a 4-year-old Jewish girl against a rock.

Never mention Samir Kuntar (whose last name really should begin with a “C”), without a link. This one terrorist $h!t has been the center of more hostage taking, wars and extortionate prisoner exchanges than any other Islamic turd.

While digging up the link for this comment, I just discovered that Kuntar will be released in exchange for Hamas held hostages Goldwasser and Regev.

Olmert deserves to be executed for this bit of treason.

C’mon, Fudd, tell us about the “heart and courage” of your boy Kuntar. That’s your idea of heart and courage, some Islamic savage smashing the head of a 4-year-old Jewish girl against a rock. You must get a big smile every time you think about it. Own up, dude, don’t weasel out like you usually do.

A serious question, Fudd – do you *really* think that your “Jewish and Gentile” formulation actually conceals your Jew-baiting rather than calling even more attention to it? My money says, yes, you are fucking dumb enough to really believe it.

I don’t think that is actually part of the plan for many native Europeans, but for over two decades economic and social conditions have worked heavily against early marriage and parenthood.
As a relatively unskilled white male, who started working in the UK during the early 1970s, my experience has been of ever-rising costs, especially of housing, heavier taxes, increasing competition for jobs, and downward pressure on wages.
Like many of my generation, I was raised to believe that marriage and children were not to be undertaken lightly, to be responsible for my actions, to save wisely, and avoid debt.
However, that was perhaps not an advantageous pattern of behaviour for a long period of financial incontinence and state-dependency culture, in which the quickest way to get a nice flat (appartment) and regular income was to be an unmarried teenage mother, or an asylum-seeker, or even a terrorist.
There may now be a “lost generation” of the childless in the UK, who waited until they could afford a home in which to start a family, only to find that that they could never afford it, or who woke up one day and found that they were just too old, but I think the good news is that the financial incontinence seems to have been dealt a fatal blow, in which case the state dependency culture cannot long survive it.
We may soon, I hope, see a swing back to economic and social reality, and a greater need for the support of family life. I doubt that the native birthrate will actually soar as a result, but I think that replacement level will not be a problem (and replacement level is all
the UK needs, it was already too crowded a long time ago).

Cedarford does indeed have a point: ethnic and racial groups have a right to exist within historic lands. This btw is one of the Wilsonian Fourteen Points: Self Determination. That applies to Mexicans (who do not wish to be over-run by Guatemalans) and Italians who do not wish to be over-run by North Africans and Roma and Albanians.

However, I can state that Cedarford is conclusively wrong in his laughable assertion of “Jewish and Marxist lawyers” since Iran has a TFR of 1.71 and faces demographic annihilation by it’s neighbors with higher rates: Pakistan, Afhanistan, and Iraq. Last time I checked, no “Jewish and Marxist lawyers” in Iran.

It’s not JUST the West. Algeria, Tunisia, and Iran are in the same boat. If anything they may be worse since the governments there tend to obfuscate bad statistical data.

All evidence (plummeting birth rates in every industrializing/urbanizing nations) suggests this is a global phenomena NOT LINKED to culture, ideology, “lack of faith,” marxism, feminism, “Jewish lawyers” and the like.

I have seen here at Common Dreams the assertion that peak female fertility is from 17-23. I have no idea if this is true. It might very well be false. BUT if it is, it would explain how all these disparate cultures with only one thing in common — delays of women into the marriage market by urbanization and opportunity cost of early childbirth along with available and reliable birth control — have caused plummeting birth rates.