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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another look at the battle. Notice the reference to artillery being used.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/07/medevac-view-of.html

    The Art of Saving Lives
    By Spc. George Welcome
    101st Combat Aviation Brigade

    BAGRAM AIR FIELD, Afghanistan — Every morning, the Soldiers of 1st Platoon, C Company, 6-101 Aviation Regiment make their way across a scorching flight line to the platoon’s three UH-60 Black Hawks.

    Pilots, crew chiefs and medics all take part in the ritual checks to make sure medical equipment is prepared, perform pre-flight inspections and power up the helicopters.
    105414
    As the medical platoon attached to Task Force Out Front, they are responsible for conducting medical-evacuation missions at a moment’s notice.

    “The platoon’s primary mission is to provide continuous first-up and second-up [medical evacuation] support for the entire [Nuristan, Nangahar, Konar and Laghman] regionws of Afghanistan,” said Capt. Ben Seipel, 1st Platoon leader. “Twenty-four hours a day and 365 days a year, we have two ships available to pick up urgent and urgent surgical patients. We also pick up casualties on the battlefield or Afghan civilians.”

    The moments between calls are filled with a quiet anxiety because the crews can never completely let their guard down. Waiting becomes a constant in the life of MEDEVAC Soldiers. It’s a peculiar situation to be in – none of the Soldiers wants anything bad to happen, but at the same time, doing the job is the only real way to stop the waiting. To pass the time between missions some of the Soldiers take correspondence college courses.

    When a call comes, the Soldiers race to their aircraft, get their gear on and are ready for takeoff within minutes. This is critical, every minute counts when life hangs in the balance.

    “Our average response time [from receiving a mission to wheels up] is down to about 12 minutes, which is a significant reduction from the previous unit that was here,” said Seipel. “Our goal is to never be the weakest link. I never want the process to be waiting on us to get ready for takeoff; our goal is to be ready and waiting for launch authority.”

    Expecting the unexpected is critical to being able to operate in an environment where hardly anything is routine. Soldiers don’t know what time a call will come and the medical report they receive prior to take off doesn’t always provide a full view of what they will face.

    Early in the morning, July 13, the platoon tactical operations center received a MEDEVAC request to respond to the village of Wanat, where a small outpost was under attack by enemy forces. In the battle, nine Soldiers from the 173rd Airborne Brigade were killed and 15 others were wounded.

    Most of the time things can be really quiet, with absolutely nothing going on, said Spc. Saturnino Crespo, 1st Platoon aviation operations specialist. Other times, things can be really hectic. Crespo recalls the day of the Wanat attack:

    “When we got the call responding to the attack, things were happening really fast,” he said. “Things were more sudden and hectic than usual. I was tracking all the aircraft as they went to the different FOBs and outposts to pick up patients. We launched all three aircraft, which is pretty unusual. We had to launch before the usual morning shift change, so some of the crews were pulling overtime.”

    Most of the Soldiers were still asleep when the MEDEVAC request came over the radio, continued Crespo, recounting the morning of the Wanat attack. They responded as their training has conditioned them to – by having their gear on and the helicopters spun up for launch within minutes.

    The initial attack started early in the morning, recalled Staff Sgt. Matthew Kinney, a flight medic who was part of the mission.

    “We got off the ground really quick,” said Kinney. “Once we got there, we flew over the mountainside directly on top of FOB Blessing, which was firing artillery upon the outskirts of Wanat. [close air support] was on station dropping bombs and the enemy was being pushed back away from the wire.”

    The MEDEVAC helicopters had to wait until the bombs impacted their targets before being given the OK to enter. The battle was still ongoing when they landed.

    “As soon as the bombs were dropped, our Apaches came to the area,” Kinney said. “The first MEDEVAC aircraft landed on the base and picked up six patients. Our aircraft was called into the [observation post] right next to it. We were originally going to use the hoist, but the pilots determined that we had a big enough area to put the aircraft down on the side of a terrace.”

    Once the helicopter touched down, Kinney exited the aircraft and climbed down the hillside. He had to breach the outpost’s concertina wire in order to begin treating patients and preparing them to board the aircraft.

    “After you’ve been doing this for a while, you don’t really think about what’s going on,” said Kinney. “Its second nature and you keep moving through all the steps. When we got called in, there was still shooting going on. The Apaches were firing rockets at a house about 50 to 80 meters to our left. The ground guys were firing on a house that we were taking fire from. I then determined that many of [the ground forces we] thought were wounded were actually [killed in action].”

    By keeping their composure under fire, the Soldiers of the MEDEVAC platoon were able to safely extract their wounded comrades, and undoubtedly save their lives.

    “It was pretty hard,” Seipel said about the Wanat mission. “All my crews saw quite a bit down there on the ground. It’s never fun, going somewhere and knowing you’re going to see fallen Americans on the ground, especially in that situation where there’s utter chaos.”

    The MEDEVAC crews handled the situation phenomenally and knew exactly what they needed to do, said Seipel.

    “There was no hesitation at all, the crews hit the ground and reacted instinctively,” he explained. “They did what they were trained to do, and I am extremely proud of them for handling the situation as professionally as possible.”...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another look at the battle. Notice the reference to artillery being used.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/07/medevac-view-of.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/07/medevac-view-of.html</a></p>
<p>    The Art of Saving Lives<br />
    By Spc. George Welcome<br />
    101st Combat Aviation Brigade</p>
<p>    BAGRAM AIR FIELD, Afghanistan — Every morning, the Soldiers of 1st Platoon, C Company, 6-101 Aviation Regiment make their way across a scorching flight line to the platoon’s three UH-60 Black Hawks.</p>
<p>    Pilots, crew chiefs and medics all take part in the ritual checks to make sure medical equipment is prepared, perform pre-flight inspections and power up the helicopters.<br />
    105414<br />
    As the medical platoon attached to Task Force Out Front, they are responsible for conducting medical-evacuation missions at a moment’s notice.</p>
<p>    “The platoon’s primary mission is to provide continuous first-up and second-up [medical evacuation] support for the entire [Nuristan, Nangahar, Konar and Laghman] regionws of Afghanistan,” said Capt. Ben Seipel, 1st Platoon leader. “Twenty-four hours a day and 365 days a year, we have two ships available to pick up urgent and urgent surgical patients. We also pick up casualties on the battlefield or Afghan civilians.”</p>
<p>    The moments between calls are filled with a quiet anxiety because the crews can never completely let their guard down. Waiting becomes a constant in the life of MEDEVAC Soldiers. It’s a peculiar situation to be in – none of the Soldiers wants anything bad to happen, but at the same time, doing the job is the only real way to stop the waiting. To pass the time between missions some of the Soldiers take correspondence college courses.</p>
<p>    When a call comes, the Soldiers race to their aircraft, get their gear on and are ready for takeoff within minutes. This is critical, every minute counts when life hangs in the balance.</p>
<p>    “Our average response time [from receiving a mission to wheels up] is down to about 12 minutes, which is a significant reduction from the previous unit that was here,” said Seipel. “Our goal is to never be the weakest link. I never want the process to be waiting on us to get ready for takeoff; our goal is to be ready and waiting for launch authority.”</p>
<p>    Expecting the unexpected is critical to being able to operate in an environment where hardly anything is routine. Soldiers don’t know what time a call will come and the medical report they receive prior to take off doesn’t always provide a full view of what they will face.</p>
<p>    Early in the morning, July 13, the platoon tactical operations center received a MEDEVAC request to respond to the village of Wanat, where a small outpost was under attack by enemy forces. In the battle, nine Soldiers from the 173rd Airborne Brigade were killed and 15 others were wounded.</p>
<p>    Most of the time things can be really quiet, with absolutely nothing going on, said Spc. Saturnino Crespo, 1st Platoon aviation operations specialist. Other times, things can be really hectic. Crespo recalls the day of the Wanat attack:</p>
<p>    “When we got the call responding to the attack, things were happening really fast,” he said. “Things were more sudden and hectic than usual. I was tracking all the aircraft as they went to the different FOBs and outposts to pick up patients. We launched all three aircraft, which is pretty unusual. We had to launch before the usual morning shift change, so some of the crews were pulling overtime.”</p>
<p>    Most of the Soldiers were still asleep when the MEDEVAC request came over the radio, continued Crespo, recounting the morning of the Wanat attack. They responded as their training has conditioned them to – by having their gear on and the helicopters spun up for launch within minutes.</p>
<p>    The initial attack started early in the morning, recalled Staff Sgt. Matthew Kinney, a flight medic who was part of the mission.</p>
<p>    “We got off the ground really quick,” said Kinney. “Once we got there, we flew over the mountainside directly on top of FOB Blessing, which was firing artillery upon the outskirts of Wanat. [close air support] was on station dropping bombs and the enemy was being pushed back away from the wire.”</p>
<p>    The MEDEVAC helicopters had to wait until the bombs impacted their targets before being given the OK to enter. The battle was still ongoing when they landed.</p>
<p>    “As soon as the bombs were dropped, our Apaches came to the area,” Kinney said. “The first MEDEVAC aircraft landed on the base and picked up six patients. Our aircraft was called into the [observation post] right next to it. We were originally going to use the hoist, but the pilots determined that we had a big enough area to put the aircraft down on the side of a terrace.”</p>
<p>    Once the helicopter touched down, Kinney exited the aircraft and climbed down the hillside. He had to breach the outpost’s concertina wire in order to begin treating patients and preparing them to board the aircraft.</p>
<p>    “After you’ve been doing this for a while, you don’t really think about what’s going on,” said Kinney. “Its second nature and you keep moving through all the steps. When we got called in, there was still shooting going on. The Apaches were firing rockets at a house about 50 to 80 meters to our left. The ground guys were firing on a house that we were taking fire from. I then determined that many of [the ground forces we] thought were wounded were actually [killed in action].”</p>
<p>    By keeping their composure under fire, the Soldiers of the MEDEVAC platoon were able to safely extract their wounded comrades, and undoubtedly save their lives.</p>
<p>    “It was pretty hard,” Seipel said about the Wanat mission. “All my crews saw quite a bit down there on the ground. It’s never fun, going somewhere and knowing you’re going to see fallen Americans on the ground, especially in that situation where there’s utter chaos.”</p>
<p>    The MEDEVAC crews handled the situation phenomenally and knew exactly what they needed to do, said Seipel.</p>
<p>    “There was no hesitation at all, the crews hit the ground and reacted instinctively,” he explained. “They did what they were trained to do, and I am extremely proud of them for handling the situation as professionally as possible.”&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MaryAnn</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaryAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this article, Richard.

Here is another first-hand report: http://hamptonroads.com/2008/07/soldier-eastern-shore-recounts-deadly-battle-afghanistan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this article, Richard.</p>
<p>Here is another first-hand report: <a href="http://hamptonroads.com/2008/07/soldier-eastern-shore-recounts-deadly-battle-afghanistan" rel="nofollow">http://hamptonroads.com/2008/07/soldier-eastern-shore-recounts-deadly-battle-afghanistan</a></p>
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		<title>By: Drive Time Happy Hour &#187; 7-22-08</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drive Time Happy Hour &#187; 7-22-08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the same topic from Richard Fernandez: “The entire purpose of the operation — what the Taliban hoped to achieve by their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on the same topic from Richard Fernandez: “The entire purpose of the operation — what the Taliban hoped to achieve by their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/07/20/postscript/comment-page-2/#comment-1987</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3case is sho right -- the five years between electing the ARVN-killing &#039;watergate congress&#039; and seeing the Ronald Reagan light filled up graveyards across every land mass on the globe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3case is sho right &#8212; the five years between electing the ARVN-killing &#8216;watergate congress&#8217; and seeing the Ronald Reagan light filled up graveyards across every land mass on the globe.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the accounts of Hill 875 too, and the incident where the Marine fighter/bomber pilot dropped the 500 pounder on the battalion aid station.  I wept when I read about it.  I really did.  And yet elements of that unit hung on for a long time until relief arrived and they were able to storm the rest of the distance to the top.  The enemy had crept away, but you know that the North Vietnamese had to have suffered horrific casualties too, otherwise they would have stayed and fought off an understrength American force.  The NVA had policed their dead and wounded, so we had no idea exactly what their casualties were.  But they had to have been mauled.

Sometimes it&#039;s hard to believe that it happened only six years before I reached 18 in 1973 when I joined the Army.  I knew a lot of veterans of that war, and I&#039;m damn proud of them.  Even in my Leftist days in college and then the seminary I harbored no disrespect for our veterans or our military.  That was another bone of contention between the other Leftists I knew.  They didn&#039;t like the fact that I was Catholic and a U.S. Army veteran who was unashamed of his service and of the U.S. military.  I never really had a future on the Left anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the accounts of Hill 875 too, and the incident where the Marine fighter/bomber pilot dropped the 500 pounder on the battalion aid station.  I wept when I read about it.  I really did.  And yet elements of that unit hung on for a long time until relief arrived and they were able to storm the rest of the distance to the top.  The enemy had crept away, but you know that the North Vietnamese had to have suffered horrific casualties too, otherwise they would have stayed and fought off an understrength American force.  The NVA had policed their dead and wounded, so we had no idea exactly what their casualties were.  But they had to have been mauled.</p>
<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s hard to believe that it happened only six years before I reached 18 in 1973 when I joined the Army.  I knew a lot of veterans of that war, and I&#8217;m damn proud of them.  Even in my Leftist days in college and then the seminary I harbored no disrespect for our veterans or our military.  That was another bone of contention between the other Leftists I knew.  They didn&#8217;t like the fact that I was Catholic and a U.S. Army veteran who was unashamed of his service and of the U.S. military.  I never really had a future on the Left anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: 3Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>3Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;The 70s in general — not our finest decade, as a people.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

The &#039;70s started out all right.  Then Nixon screwed the pooch, which was followed by the big mistake by the people: trusting the Dems and electing Jimmy Carter, a charismatic cipher who promised &quot;Change.&quot;.  That&#039;s when we got caught by the vortex and started spinning down the bowl....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>The 70s in general — not our finest decade, as a people.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8217;70s started out all right.  Then Nixon screwed the pooch, which was followed by the big mistake by the people: trusting the Dems and electing Jimmy Carter, a charismatic cipher who promised &#8220;Change.&#8221;.  That&#8217;s when we got caught by the vortex and started spinning down the bowl&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: trangbang68</title>
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		<dc:creator>trangbang68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, Old Blue!
I have read accounts of Hill 875 in the Central Highlands of that old war. Among the obstacles the 173rd had to overcome was an errant Marine 500 pounder dropped on the battalion aid station, but the fellows got to the top.
The conflicting reports from the battle are probably due to the Hell and chaos small unit combat always is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Old Blue!<br />
I have read accounts of Hill 875 in the Central Highlands of that old war. Among the obstacles the 173rd had to overcome was an errant Marine 500 pounder dropped on the battalion aid station, but the fellows got to the top.<br />
The conflicting reports from the battle are probably due to the Hell and chaos small unit combat always is.</p>
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		<title>By: CPT. Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPT. Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the [other] Stars &amp; Stripes article.  I simply say this:

The men of that unit deserve the highest honors; those that died, did so at their posts and many died fighting.  They fought for each other and trusted each other to the end.

I can think of no higher compliment for any fighting unit.  See what free men can do.  Here&#039;s the other link:

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&amp;article=63479&amp;archive=true

All honors to the fallen, all honors to the brave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the [other] Stars &amp; Stripes article.  I simply say this:</p>
<p>The men of that unit deserve the highest honors; those that died, did so at their posts and many died fighting.  They fought for each other and trusted each other to the end.</p>
<p>I can think of no higher compliment for any fighting unit.  See what free men can do.  Here&#8217;s the other link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&amp;article=63479&amp;archive=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&amp;article=63479&amp;archive=true</a></p>
<p>All honors to the fallen, all honors to the brave.</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think for historical perspective, we have a taste of the wringer Old Abe was put through. I fear the coming peace and what policies the party of McClellan will concoct for reconstruction. How do you say &quot;Jim Crow&quot; in Arabic?

 While major combat ops may subside, other ops continue. I don&#039;t think the GWOT will be over for a long, long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think for historical perspective, we have a taste of the wringer Old Abe was put through. I fear the coming peace and what policies the party of McClellan will concoct for reconstruction. How do you say &#8220;Jim Crow&#8221; in Arabic?</p>
<p> While major combat ops may subside, other ops continue. I don&#8217;t think the GWOT will be over for a long, long time.</p>
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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
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		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why hell by now we’d be cutting off our OWN limbs, wiring our OWN genitals, and razing our OWN towns in the manner of Jenjis Khan.
&lt;/I&gt;

You mean I don&#039;t get to go out and start doing this to moonbats and other assorted progressives and liberals once LA, Seattle and Chicago go up in a mushroom cloud?  You *really* don&#039;t want to raze Berkeley, for example?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why hell by now we’d be cutting off our OWN limbs, wiring our OWN genitals, and razing our OWN towns in the manner of Jenjis Khan.<br />
</i></p>
<p>You mean I don&#8217;t get to go out and start doing this to moonbats and other assorted progressives and liberals once LA, Seattle and Chicago go up in a mushroom cloud?  You *really* don&#8217;t want to raze Berkeley, for example?</p>
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