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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/07/aloha/comment-page-1/#comment-3784</link>
		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janis had been stood up the night she OD&#039;d.  I don&#039;t remember by whom, but she was depressed about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janis had been stood up the night she OD&#8217;d.  I don&#8217;t remember by whom, but she was depressed about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/07/aloha/comment-page-1/#comment-3546</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Mookie, Obama will still have his mental militias after he loses this election. Look at Al Gore&#039;s minions, they see nothing at all wrong with Gore using the language of science while absoluting denying the truth-seeking process of science. 

Science is one of the few, if not the only, method humans have devised to ascertain the Truth of the certain questions. Unlike less physical arguments of Logic, science is based on the open cycle of Observation, Hypothesis, Experiment, Refinement of the Theory - ad infinitum. Al Gore refuses debate, he refuses any step past his only unsupported hypotheses, and his followers believe this is right and true because they are following a religion, not science. And their ultimate goal is command and control of society, not truth or science or mutual agreement.

Just yesterday I noticed that the myth still lives (it was an AP story I think) that Mookie&#039;s &quot;ceasefire&quot; was instrumental to the success of the surge.

As for Country Joe, or whatever the lead singer&#039;s name is, I saw on a Janis Joplin documentary that he stood her up on a date one night and it sent her into a tizz. It&#039;s strange to think that in the crazy times of the Sixties somebody like Janis would even have &quot;dates&quot; and someone would stand her up. Sounds so pedestrian, so normal....

As for the the &quot;Gimme an F!&quot; song, I recommend it for all karaoke parties. The crowd always joins in very enthusiastically. &quot;What&#039;s that spell?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Mookie, Obama will still have his mental militias after he loses this election. Look at Al Gore&#8217;s minions, they see nothing at all wrong with Gore using the language of science while absoluting denying the truth-seeking process of science. </p>
<p>Science is one of the few, if not the only, method humans have devised to ascertain the Truth of the certain questions. Unlike less physical arguments of Logic, science is based on the open cycle of Observation, Hypothesis, Experiment, Refinement of the Theory &#8211; ad infinitum. Al Gore refuses debate, he refuses any step past his only unsupported hypotheses, and his followers believe this is right and true because they are following a religion, not science. And their ultimate goal is command and control of society, not truth or science or mutual agreement.</p>
<p>Just yesterday I noticed that the myth still lives (it was an AP story I think) that Mookie&#8217;s &#8220;ceasefire&#8221; was instrumental to the success of the surge.</p>
<p>As for Country Joe, or whatever the lead singer&#8217;s name is, I saw on a Janis Joplin documentary that he stood her up on a date one night and it sent her into a tizz. It&#8217;s strange to think that in the crazy times of the Sixties somebody like Janis would even have &#8220;dates&#8221; and someone would stand her up. Sounds so pedestrian, so normal&#8230;.</p>
<p>As for the the &#8220;Gimme an F!&#8221; song, I recommend it for all karaoke parties. The crowd always joins in very enthusiastically. &#8220;What&#8217;s that spell?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: trangbang68</title>
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		<dc:creator>trangbang68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M Simon,
I definitely was a fan of the Fish in those spacey days. The song &quot; Who am I?&quot; was a poignant existential plea.&quot; I&#039;ll survive&quot; on the same album was a sweet little love song. Joe Mcdonald was a red diaper baby but I think the acid added a touch of humor to the grim Marxism he could have represented. A similar band ,though lots more edgy was the MC5 out of Detroit. Those boys could start a mini riot any time they played. Ah the loopy 60&#039;s and early 70&#039;s.
&quot;I feel like I&#039;m fixin&#039; to die&quot; was immensely popular among the grunts in Viet Nam, at least the ones who were dabbling in the youth culture. I guess they would be the Sgt. Elias faction in &quot;Platoon&quot; . &quot;We gotta get out of this place&quot; by the Animals was another big hit as well as Mary Hopkin&#039;s &quot;Those were the days&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M Simon,<br />
I definitely was a fan of the Fish in those spacey days. The song &#8221; Who am I?&#8221; was a poignant existential plea.&#8221; I&#8217;ll survive&#8221; on the same album was a sweet little love song. Joe Mcdonald was a red diaper baby but I think the acid added a touch of humor to the grim Marxism he could have represented. A similar band ,though lots more edgy was the MC5 out of Detroit. Those boys could start a mini riot any time they played. Ah the loopy 60&#8217;s and early 70&#8217;s.<br />
&#8220;I feel like I&#8217;m fixin&#8217; to die&#8221; was immensely popular among the grunts in Viet Nam, at least the ones who were dabbling in the youth culture. I guess they would be the Sgt. Elias faction in &#8220;Platoon&#8221; . &#8220;We gotta get out of this place&#8221; by the Animals was another big hit as well as Mary Hopkin&#8217;s &#8220;Those were the days&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tarnsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarnsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like the United States needed some blood-letting to resolve issues left unresolved during the founding, perhaps the Iraqis needed the same before realizing the value of collective effort.  The question is will it last?  We can only hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like the United States needed some blood-letting to resolve issues left unresolved during the founding, perhaps the Iraqis needed the same before realizing the value of collective effort.  The question is will it last?  We can only hope.</p>
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		<title>By: saus</title>
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		<dc:creator>saus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely no one believes Sadr is out to sing Kumbaya!?
He&#039;s setting up a brand new Hezbollah for Iraq, funded trained &amp; fuly supported by Iran. This is the Hamas &amp; Hezbollah model, radical anti west Islamist organizations which cloak &amp; cover themselves in &#039;social&#039; &amp; &#039;political&#039; causes to appeal to suckers in the west. So far because of the West&#039;s idiocy and naivete this has worked out fantastic for Iran, they now have not one but two full Islamic mini states in Gaza &amp; Lebanon. Why tinker with what works.. They have at least another 6 months or so to milk the queen of suckers Dr. Rice before an even bigger apologist hits the scence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely no one believes Sadr is out to sing Kumbaya!?<br />
He&#8217;s setting up a brand new Hezbollah for Iraq, funded trained &amp; fuly supported by Iran. This is the Hamas &amp; Hezbollah model, radical anti west Islamist organizations which cloak &amp; cover themselves in &#8217;social&#8217; &amp; &#8216;political&#8217; causes to appeal to suckers in the west. So far because of the West&#8217;s idiocy and naivete this has worked out fantastic for Iran, they now have not one but two full Islamic mini states in Gaza &amp; Lebanon. Why tinker with what works.. They have at least another 6 months or so to milk the queen of suckers Dr. Rice before an even bigger apologist hits the scence.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Country Joe and the Fish&#039;s &quot;Feel Like I&#039;m Fixing to Die Rag&quot; is one of the greatest songs of the late 60s.
I still laugh when I hear it.
What a hoot.
But it sure didn&#039;t get air time on Top 40 stations.
Give me an &quot;F&quot;...
His concerts were a buzz, including the bags of joints with stars and stripes cigarette papers thrown into the audiences at the free concerts in Golden Gate Park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Country Joe and the Fish&#8217;s &#8220;Feel Like I&#8217;m Fixing to Die Rag&#8221; is one of the greatest songs of the late 60s.<br />
I still laugh when I hear it.<br />
What a hoot.<br />
But it sure didn&#8217;t get air time on Top 40 stations.<br />
Give me an &#8220;F&#8221;&#8230;<br />
His concerts were a buzz, including the bags of joints with stars and stripes cigarette papers thrown into the audiences at the free concerts in Golden Gate Park.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sylwester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Sylwester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>krontekag:
&quot;I guess we have finally arrived at the “Kumbayah” moment, yes? Well the “time for militias” didn’t just end all by itself. Someone was there to make it all possible.&quot;
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I am very optimistic. The Iraqi Government security forces have established their presence and control everywhere in Iraq. This marks the beginning of a new period of peace and progress. Kumbayah!!

This success was made possible by US military forces and Iraqi Government security forces risking their lives and fighting for a democratic government of Iraq, where every citizen has a legal and real right to participate in the country&#039;s decision-making processes. Kumbayah!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>krontekag:<br />
&#8220;I guess we have finally arrived at the “Kumbayah” moment, yes? Well the “time for militias” didn’t just end all by itself. Someone was there to make it all possible.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I am very optimistic. The Iraqi Government security forces have established their presence and control everywhere in Iraq. This marks the beginning of a new period of peace and progress. Kumbayah!!</p>
<p>This success was made possible by US military forces and Iraqi Government security forces risking their lives and fighting for a democratic government of Iraq, where every citizen has a legal and real right to participate in the country&#8217;s decision-making processes. Kumbayah!!</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me also add that their anti-war song &quot;Viet Nam&quot; was a great hit among the troops in &quot;Nam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me also add that their anti-war song &#8220;Viet Nam&#8221; was a great hit among the troops in &#8220;Nam.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trangbang68,

I never knew that about Country Joe. Thanks. You might like their &quot;Section 43&quot; a great instrumental. As to their real politics: it was all about getting chics &quot;Happiness Is A Porpoise Mouth&quot;. They were a Berkeley band and very popular during the &quot;era&quot;.

Wretchard et. al.,

I hear from a lot of friends that they are not looking forward to four years of lectures on race either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trangbang68,</p>
<p>I never knew that about Country Joe. Thanks. You might like their &#8220;Section 43&#8243; a great instrumental. As to their real politics: it was all about getting chics &#8220;Happiness Is A Porpoise Mouth&#8221;. They were a Berkeley band and very popular during the &#8220;era&#8221;.</p>
<p>Wretchard et. al.,</p>
<p>I hear from a lot of friends that they are not looking forward to four years of lectures on race either.</p>
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		<title>By: trangbang68</title>
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		<dc:creator>trangbang68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy Lofquist, I guess I was there from the beginning too. I saw Dylan in 1966 in one of his early electric shows at Kleinham&#039;s Music Hall in Buffalo. I agree he has been over analyzed and
often claimed by camps he had no part in. He is just an American original like Johnny Cash singing songs about this great and strange land we live in. These guys&#039; body of work is breathtaking story telling .Dylan&#039;s piece,
&quot;Workingman&#039;s Blues#2&quot; off the  album  Modern Times
is like an elegy or funeral dirge for the old mill towns dying in post industrial America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy Lofquist, I guess I was there from the beginning too. I saw Dylan in 1966 in one of his early electric shows at Kleinham&#8217;s Music Hall in Buffalo. I agree he has been over analyzed and<br />
often claimed by camps he had no part in. He is just an American original like Johnny Cash singing songs about this great and strange land we live in. These guys&#8217; body of work is breathtaking story telling .Dylan&#8217;s piece,<br />
&#8220;Workingman&#8217;s Blues#2&#8243; off the  album  Modern Times<br />
is like an elegy or funeral dirge for the old mill towns dying in post industrial America.</p>
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