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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/09/whos-winning-in-georgia/comment-page-4/#comment-6125</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today, 08/14/08, there is strong evidence taht your biased (very) article was WRONG. Perhaps you are  an &quot;embedded&quot; journalist.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, 08/14/08, there is strong evidence taht your biased (very) article was WRONG. Perhaps you are  an &#8220;embedded&#8221; journalist&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Guard Bum</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/09/whos-winning-in-georgia/comment-page-4/#comment-5660</link>
		<dc:creator>Guard Bum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What say you we load up the Georgian formation in Iraq with 2ea Javelins and 2ea Stingers per trooper and conduct a few classes in the C17s on the way back to Georgia.  2ea tickets to EPCOT per tank kill and 2ea three day passes to Disney World per plane kill. Its worked pretty well before...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What say you we load up the Georgian formation in Iraq with 2ea Javelins and 2ea Stingers per trooper and conduct a few classes in the C17s on the way back to Georgia.  2ea tickets to EPCOT per tank kill and 2ea three day passes to Disney World per plane kill. Its worked pretty well before&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Atuhalpa</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/09/whos-winning-in-georgia/comment-page-4/#comment-4866</link>
		<dc:creator>Atuhalpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So that justifies destabilizing and/or supporting coup d&#039;etat in a country that is obviously in the sphere of influence of your ideological rival? Look, until you realize that there really are corporate entities that have allegiance to nothing but power, control, and financial gain, you will buy into this us versus them paradigm.            

 I don&#039;t belive the full blown conspiracy models that some people subscribe to, but I do know that down through history minor grievances between people have been preyed upon by those willing to purvey death and destruction for profit.

 Soviet meddling was wrong also, but two wrongs still don&#039;t make a right.

 Read &quot;Resource Wars: The new Landscape of Global Conflict&quot; by Michael T. Klare and you will be better informed as to what is happening in Georgia, Iraq, Iran and anywhere else there are strategic resources. 

 The events that have been and will be taking place are the reactions of an ignorant, greedy, and most times stupid species that is steeped in a tradition of religious myth. We as a species have not had the foresight to plan for the future and live sustainably, so now we will reap the results of our folly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So that justifies destabilizing and/or supporting coup d&#8217;etat in a country that is obviously in the sphere of influence of your ideological rival? Look, until you realize that there really are corporate entities that have allegiance to nothing but power, control, and financial gain, you will buy into this us versus them paradigm.            </p>
<p> I don&#8217;t belive the full blown conspiracy models that some people subscribe to, but I do know that down through history minor grievances between people have been preyed upon by those willing to purvey death and destruction for profit.</p>
<p> Soviet meddling was wrong also, but two wrongs still don&#8217;t make a right.</p>
<p> Read &#8220;Resource Wars: The new Landscape of Global Conflict&#8221; by Michael T. Klare and you will be better informed as to what is happening in Georgia, Iraq, Iran and anywhere else there are strategic resources. </p>
<p> The events that have been and will be taking place are the reactions of an ignorant, greedy, and most times stupid species that is steeped in a tradition of religious myth. We as a species have not had the foresight to plan for the future and live sustainably, so now we will reap the results of our folly.</p>
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		<title>By: mitchell porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitchell porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atuhalpa, you might want to ask whether the USSR was &quot;meddling&quot; too. Iraq and the USSR signed treaties of friendship and assistance in 1972 and 1973 respectively. There were communist movements in Iraq, Iran, and elsewhere. Just google &quot;KGB&quot; and your country of interest and see what turns up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atuhalpa, you might want to ask whether the USSR was &#8220;meddling&#8221; too. Iraq and the USSR signed treaties of friendship and assistance in 1972 and 1973 respectively. There were communist movements in Iraq, Iran, and elsewhere. Just google &#8220;KGB&#8221; and your country of interest and see what turns up.</p>
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		<title>By: Atuhalpa</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/09/whos-winning-in-georgia/comment-page-3/#comment-4478</link>
		<dc:creator>Atuhalpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I checked my dates and you are partially correct. My errors were:1. The soviets had already invaded Afghanistan, but still did so due to the growing instability in the region due to US meddling. 2. We had been backing Saddam Hussein since the February 63 coup against Qasim.

The point is, that any way you want to spin it the problems in that region have been exascerbated dramatically by bungled US covert operations. As I said, even when they bungle things the arms dealers and corporate entities make out well. 

Hopefully someday those of you who believe there is some right versus wrong or good versus evil scenario playing out with &quot;god&quot; watching from on high will become conscious enough to see the truth of human existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I checked my dates and you are partially correct. My errors were:1. The soviets had already invaded Afghanistan, but still did so due to the growing instability in the region due to US meddling. 2. We had been backing Saddam Hussein since the February 63 coup against Qasim.</p>
<p>The point is, that any way you want to spin it the problems in that region have been exascerbated dramatically by bungled US covert operations. As I said, even when they bungle things the arms dealers and corporate entities make out well. </p>
<p>Hopefully someday those of you who believe there is some right versus wrong or good versus evil scenario playing out with &#8220;god&#8221; watching from on high will become conscious enough to see the truth of human existence.</p>
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		<title>By: Heading Right! &#187; GEORGIA ON OUR MINDS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heading Right! &#187; GEORGIA ON OUR MINDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sfblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>sfblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prediction on GWB 5:15 EST News Conference: 

Lot&#039;s of blustery and serious condemnation of Russian aggression.  Warnings about the dire, serious, long-lasting, etc. consequences for relationships with the international community.

This will be a necessary public relations maneuver to show global leadership, while at the same time taking the opportunity to maximize the spotlight of international scrutiny on Russia&#039;s aggression to lay a foreign policy foundation for legitimacy of a potential NATO intervention should Russia move on another sovereign nation, Ukraine.

Russia&#039;s biggest battle right now is a PR battle, to convince as many as possible that its action was justified to deflect the international political damage.  Russia was willing to pay the price of that damage to forestall any encroaching NATO memberships.  It has decided to take its chances on dangling it&#039;s big ace card a la Iran and other more minor gestures immediately following this overthrow.</description>
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<p>Lot&#8217;s of blustery and serious condemnation of Russian aggression.  Warnings about the dire, serious, long-lasting, etc. consequences for relationships with the international community.</p>
<p>This will be a necessary public relations maneuver to show global leadership, while at the same time taking the opportunity to maximize the spotlight of international scrutiny on Russia&#8217;s aggression to lay a foreign policy foundation for legitimacy of a potential NATO intervention should Russia move on another sovereign nation, Ukraine.</p>
<p>Russia&#8217;s biggest battle right now is a PR battle, to convince as many as possible that its action was justified to deflect the international political damage.  Russia was willing to pay the price of that damage to forestall any encroaching NATO memberships.  It has decided to take its chances on dangling it&#8217;s big ace card a la Iran and other more minor gestures immediately following this overthrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Atuhalpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atuhalpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nichevo, your whole post is pure speculation. And since you claim my dates are wrong why don&#039;t you straighten them out for me? I do know this: The Iranian people have been pro western democracy for a hell of a long time, and the shah through savak was brutal and oppressive. I still submit that the mess in Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan is from bungled intervention primarily by the the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nichevo, your whole post is pure speculation. And since you claim my dates are wrong why don&#8217;t you straighten them out for me? I do know this: The Iranian people have been pro western democracy for a hell of a long time, and the shah through savak was brutal and oppressive. I still submit that the mess in Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan is from bungled intervention primarily by the the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: nichevo</title>
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		<dc:creator>nichevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atuhalpa, LOL, right?  I mean, just check your dates.

Meanwhile, let&#039;s just say Mossadegh was allowed to steal and keep power as you wish.  Fine.  Then Iran spends thirty years in the Soviet orbit.  Then Khomeini comes along and kicks the Russians out.  Russians either go Afghanistan on Iran or just nuke it.  Probably WWIII right there.  Damn those commies and their feeding off instability!


But you were only kidding.  Funny, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atuhalpa, LOL, right?  I mean, just check your dates.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, let&#8217;s just say Mossadegh was allowed to steal and keep power as you wish.  Fine.  Then Iran spends thirty years in the Soviet orbit.  Then Khomeini comes along and kicks the Russians out.  Russians either go Afghanistan on Iran or just nuke it.  Probably WWIII right there.  Damn those commies and their feeding off instability!</p>
<p>But you were only kidding.  Funny, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Drive Time Happy Hour &#187; 08-11-08</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drive Time Happy Hour &#187; 08-11-08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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