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		<title>By: Russia &#187; Unrealpolitik</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/12/russia-calls-a-halt/comment-page-5/#comment-5371</link>
		<dc:creator>Russia &#187; Unrealpolitik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Russia calls a haltRussian President Dmitry Medvedev has ordered an end to military operations against Georgia, according to the BBC. Russian securities rebounded on the financial markets at news of Medvedev’s order. “I’ve decided to finish the operation &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Russia calls a haltRussian President Dmitry Medvedev has ordered an end to military operations against Georgia, according to the BBC. Russian securities rebounded on the financial markets at news of Medvedev’s order. “I’ve decided to finish the operation &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steynian 222 &#171; Free Mark Steyn!</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/12/russia-calls-a-halt/comment-page-5/#comment-5087</link>
		<dc:creator>Steynian 222 &#171; Free Mark Steyn!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] RUSSIA SAYS IT IS halting operations in Georgia. Now the battle for world opinion begins. And the beat-down goes on: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] RUSSIA SAYS IT IS halting operations in Georgia. Now the battle for world opinion begins. And the beat-down goes on: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/12/russia-calls-a-halt/comment-page-5/#comment-5085</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarkozy: &quot;Russian &#039;Peacekeepers&#039;&quot; to remain...

So, it&#039;s economic then...

G7 instead of G8.  Sounds kinda flacid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarkozy: &#8220;Russian &#8216;Peacekeepers&#8217;&#8221; to remain&#8230;</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s economic then&#8230;</p>
<p>G7 instead of G8.  Sounds kinda flacid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cjm</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the race to survive.  they went all in on socialism and now are busted.  they could have been a contender, instead of a bum, which is what they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the race to survive.  they went all in on socialism and now are busted.  they could have been a contender, instead of a bum, which is what they are.</p>
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		<title>By: JBean</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/12/russia-calls-a-halt/comment-page-5/#comment-5083</link>
		<dc:creator>JBean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paol -- &quot;It seems you assume that Russian tanks were rolling into Georgia when shelling of the Tskhinvali started, i.e., at early morning August 8. Can you cite any reference for that?&quot;

Since you threw &lt;strong&gt;your&lt;/strong&gt; contention back into my lap to prove, let me just say that I have yet to find -- other than your non-supportive WSJ link, and the Guardian link which has been ably dissected by others here -- one reference to Tskhinvali that is not from a Russian source. But you knew that, did you not?
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paol &#8212; &#8220;It seems you assume that Russian tanks were rolling into Georgia when shelling of the Tskhinvali started, i.e., at early morning August 8. Can you cite any reference for that?&#8221;</p>
<p>Since you threw <strong>your</strong> contention back into my lap to prove, let me just say that I have yet to find &#8212; other than your non-supportive WSJ link, and the Guardian link which has been ably dissected by others here &#8212; one reference to Tskhinvali that is not from a Russian source. But you knew that, did you not?</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How South Ossetia is like Kosovo: “Some of the rhetoric that the U.S. and NATO bandied about in 1999 to justify the Kosovo operation may be coming back to haunt us in the wake of the 2008 Ossetian war,” writes Nikolas K. Gvosdev, the editor of The National Interest, on his Washington Realist blog. He explains:

    Russia has claimed that its mandate from the 1992 Sochi agreement to “keep the peace” gives it the right to take whatever measures are necessary to secure South Ossetia. But this can be interpreted to mean that Russia has the right to strike targets in Georgia proper on the grounds that Georgia’s warfighting abilities must be degraded — similar to the NATO rationale in 1999 for hitting targets in Serbia itself, not just Serbian units in Kosovo.

    Russia is also utilizing the “loss of sovereignty” argument that was advanced against Serbia in 1999 — that Georgia’s attack on South Ossetia which seemed to target civilians has produced such a negative reaction among Ossetians who claim they can no longer live under Georgian rule. So, the argument is that Tbilisi has forfeited its right to exercise sovereignty over South Ossetia just as Serbia supposedly lost its sovereign rights over Kosovo.

    And whether the West, and particularly the U.S., buys this or not is no longer the issue. Moscow doesn’t seem to care whether we accept these comparisons, just as we didn’t care about Moscow’s opinion on Kosovo final status. We can either try to fight it — which we don’t seem to want to do — or we will have to accept it de facto — which is where things seem to be headed, at least given the tenor of the French peace mission, which wants a restoration of the August 6 status quo — which for all intents and purposes is a Russian victory and a Georgian defeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How South Ossetia is like Kosovo: “Some of the rhetoric that the U.S. and NATO bandied about in 1999 to justify the Kosovo operation may be coming back to haunt us in the wake of the 2008 Ossetian war,” writes Nikolas K. Gvosdev, the editor of The National Interest, on his Washington Realist blog. He explains:</p>
<p>    Russia has claimed that its mandate from the 1992 Sochi agreement to “keep the peace” gives it the right to take whatever measures are necessary to secure South Ossetia. But this can be interpreted to mean that Russia has the right to strike targets in Georgia proper on the grounds that Georgia’s warfighting abilities must be degraded — similar to the NATO rationale in 1999 for hitting targets in Serbia itself, not just Serbian units in Kosovo.</p>
<p>    Russia is also utilizing the “loss of sovereignty” argument that was advanced against Serbia in 1999 — that Georgia’s attack on South Ossetia which seemed to target civilians has produced such a negative reaction among Ossetians who claim they can no longer live under Georgian rule. So, the argument is that Tbilisi has forfeited its right to exercise sovereignty over South Ossetia just as Serbia supposedly lost its sovereign rights over Kosovo.</p>
<p>    And whether the West, and particularly the U.S., buys this or not is no longer the issue. Moscow doesn’t seem to care whether we accept these comparisons, just as we didn’t care about Moscow’s opinion on Kosovo final status. We can either try to fight it — which we don’t seem to want to do — or we will have to accept it de facto — which is where things seem to be headed, at least given the tenor of the French peace mission, which wants a restoration of the August 6 status quo — which for all intents and purposes is a Russian victory and a Georgian defeat.</p>
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		<title>By: mika.</title>
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		<dc:creator>mika.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cjm: russia wants to die. it has lost the great race,..

The great race to where?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cjm: russia wants to die. it has lost the great race,..</p>
<p>The great race to where?</p>
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		<title>By: cjm</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>russia wants to die.  it has lost the great race, and waits only for the long sleep.  they won&#039;t be missed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>russia wants to die.  it has lost the great race, and waits only for the long sleep.  they won&#8217;t be missed.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll note that Fox News reports ongoing bombing attacks around Tbilsi by Russian air, and various probing attacks.

This seems an operational pause.

But really, what is remarkable is how un-Russian the Russians are fighting. Not like Grozny. But fast, rapid tempo, using speed to kill. They&#039;ve learned from the US, considerably. Perhaps Georgia will be their laboratory as Spain was for Hitler (and Stalin). Tactics and weapons explored at a relatively low risk.

IIRC, the War Nerd predicted two years ago that wars by industrialized countries was passe because human nature had &quot;evolved.&quot; And that also, insurgencies were &quot;unstoppable.&quot; Both laughable assertions proven wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll note that Fox News reports ongoing bombing attacks around Tbilsi by Russian air, and various probing attacks.</p>
<p>This seems an operational pause.</p>
<p>But really, what is remarkable is how un-Russian the Russians are fighting. Not like Grozny. But fast, rapid tempo, using speed to kill. They&#8217;ve learned from the US, considerably. Perhaps Georgia will be their laboratory as Spain was for Hitler (and Stalin). Tactics and weapons explored at a relatively low risk.</p>
<p>IIRC, the War Nerd predicted two years ago that wars by industrialized countries was passe because human nature had &#8220;evolved.&#8221; And that also, insurgencies were &#8220;unstoppable.&#8221; Both laughable assertions proven wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: poul</title>
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		<dc:creator>poul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JBean, eyewitness accounts are eyewitness accounts, even coming from guardian. but you can easily google plenty of similar stuff from other sources - that is, if you were interested in truth, not in preserving your ideological blinders. you guys are as bad at it as obamaniacs, seriously.
for example:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4516005.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JBean, eyewitness accounts are eyewitness accounts, even coming from guardian. but you can easily google plenty of similar stuff from other sources &#8211; that is, if you were interested in truth, not in preserving your ideological blinders. you guys are as bad at it as obamaniacs, seriously.<br />
for example:<br />
<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4516005.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4516005.ece</a></p>
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