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		<title>By: Bookworm Room &#187; Results in from the Watcher&#8217;s Council</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookworm Room &#187; Results in from the Watcher&#8217;s Council</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels &#187; Watcher&#8217;s Council Results: From Russia With Love!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels &#187; Watcher&#8217;s Council Results: From Russia With Love!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bookworm Room &#187; Quality reading for Thursday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookworm Room &#187; Quality reading for Thursday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vengeance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vengeance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all our problems, why is John McCain talking about the ’60s, trying to link Barack Obama to radical Bill Ayers?”

With all of our problems, do we really want a President who&#039;s loyalty to his fellow citizens can be thrown in doubt?  Our Founding Fathers were particularly concerned about foreign influence and the loyalty of the executive.  That is why the Constitution designates the Presidency as requiring native citizenship. 

Ayers is not in the past, he has malevolent goals now -- &quot;we did not do enough&quot;.  And putting a light on the cockroaches that surround Obama 

-- outreach advisor to muslims forced to resign 

-- An undeclared $3.5 million (£1.8 million) payment from a Iraqi-British businessman has landed Barack Obama’s former fundraiser behind bars.

--Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the Federal Election Commission (FEC), confirmed to investigative reporters that donations from foreigners are illegal and donations from individuals cannot exceed $ 2,300 for a single election. The $ 29,500 donation from the Palestinians clearly violates the law on both fronts.

This is how Republics perish, read our Founding Father&#039;s words.  

That&#039;s why we are talking about Ayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all our problems, why is John McCain talking about the ’60s, trying to link Barack Obama to radical Bill Ayers?”</p>
<p>With all of our problems, do we really want a President who&#8217;s loyalty to his fellow citizens can be thrown in doubt?  Our Founding Fathers were particularly concerned about foreign influence and the loyalty of the executive.  That is why the Constitution designates the Presidency as requiring native citizenship. </p>
<p>Ayers is not in the past, he has malevolent goals now &#8212; &#8220;we did not do enough&#8221;.  And putting a light on the cockroaches that surround Obama </p>
<p>&#8211; outreach advisor to muslims forced to resign </p>
<p>&#8211; An undeclared $3.5 million (£1.8 million) payment from a Iraqi-British businessman has landed Barack Obama’s former fundraiser behind bars.</p>
<p>&#8211;Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the Federal Election Commission (FEC), confirmed to investigative reporters that donations from foreigners are illegal and donations from individuals cannot exceed $ 2,300 for a single election. The $ 29,500 donation from the Palestinians clearly violates the law on both fronts.</p>
<p>This is how Republics perish, read our Founding Father&#8217;s words.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why we are talking about Ayers.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/25/unity/comment-page-2/#comment-9257</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPT, don&#039;t let the snarky press lead you astray --Boone is all-American. Yes, he fits the initial glance as a robber baron, but --look deeper. you&#039;ll like what you see. the water gig is, Dallas needs it (will soon anyway), and no one else is making any move to help. But --he has shareholders and investors, and he does plan to make a buck. but --his type makes it all work in the end, far better than waiting for an emergency to bring in the gov&#039;t bureaus. He&#039;s a wiley bidnessman, but his rep is for sterling honesty &amp; keeping his word. Confess, my dad did some geological work for him back in the 70s and 80s and i got to know him a little, just thru visiting mom &amp; dad in Amarillo and tagging along a few times on dad&#039;s projects. first time i met Boone, he asked about my family -- i related wife&#039;s name and 3 kids names, where we lived in Victoria -- a 5 minute conversation. Saw him again 2 or 3 yrs later, another short converstion --he remembered names and ages of my whole crew, plus everything i&#039;d told him about my own piddly life &amp; career, too. it was as if i was the billionaire world figure, and he was the wet behind the ears faceless pissant oilpatch techie. Impressive dude --more so all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPT, don&#8217;t let the snarky press lead you astray &#8211;Boone is all-American. Yes, he fits the initial glance as a robber baron, but &#8211;look deeper. you&#8217;ll like what you see. the water gig is, Dallas needs it (will soon anyway), and no one else is making any move to help. But &#8211;he has shareholders and investors, and he does plan to make a buck. but &#8211;his type makes it all work in the end, far better than waiting for an emergency to bring in the gov&#8217;t bureaus. He&#8217;s a wiley bidnessman, but his rep is for sterling honesty &amp; keeping his word. Confess, my dad did some geological work for him back in the 70s and 80s and i got to know him a little, just thru visiting mom &amp; dad in Amarillo and tagging along a few times on dad&#8217;s projects. first time i met Boone, he asked about my family &#8212; i related wife&#8217;s name and 3 kids names, where we lived in Victoria &#8212; a 5 minute conversation. Saw him again 2 or 3 yrs later, another short converstion &#8211;he remembered names and ages of my whole crew, plus everything i&#8217;d told him about my own piddly life &amp; career, too. it was as if i was the billionaire world figure, and he was the wet behind the ears faceless pissant oilpatch techie. Impressive dude &#8211;more so all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels &#187; Watcher’s Council Nominations During Week of DNC Madness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels &#187; Watcher’s Council Nominations During Week of DNC Madness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CPT. Charles</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/25/unity/comment-page-2/#comment-9139</link>
		<dc:creator>CPT. Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAH@2143hrs[082598].

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a matter of cluelessness with Obama, I suspect it&#039;s more of a &#039;Chicago machine&#039; mindset.  In that city you either do things exactly the way your told to or else.  Most people can&#039;t comprehend that level of corruption unless they&#039;ve read enough history to know who &#039;Boss Tweed&#039; was.  Obama&#039;s behavior is the result of existing within a zone of ABSOLUTE POWER.  While he may not be the master of that power, he &#039;grew up&#039; politically enfolded in it.

Obama is a &#039;made man&#039; of the Chicago machine.  As long as he&#039;s useful, he&#039;s untouchable.  As long he holds the promise of becoming a conduit of power to the machine and does not threaten it&#039;s existence he&#039;s free to do as he will.

That&#039;s the main part of the conflict unfolding: the Clinton machine vs the Chicago machine.  Since it&#039;s transpiring in America, it&#039;ll just be political careers ending and beginning.  If it were Moscow, there&#039;d be Benz&#039;s full of ex-Spetznaz toting AK&#039;s, engaging in conflict resolution, Moscow-style.  Fortunately, events in Denver won&#039;t reach that level of excitement.  

I will agree with you on the ruthlessness issue though...I suspect that comes the Alinsky side of his political pedigree.  Marxists have a tendency to not leave any intact rivals in their wake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAH@2143hrs[082598].</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a matter of cluelessness with Obama, I suspect it&#8217;s more of a &#8216;Chicago machine&#8217; mindset.  In that city you either do things exactly the way your told to or else.  Most people can&#8217;t comprehend that level of corruption unless they&#8217;ve read enough history to know who &#8216;Boss Tweed&#8217; was.  Obama&#8217;s behavior is the result of existing within a zone of ABSOLUTE POWER.  While he may not be the master of that power, he &#8216;grew up&#8217; politically enfolded in it.</p>
<p>Obama is a &#8216;made man&#8217; of the Chicago machine.  As long as he&#8217;s useful, he&#8217;s untouchable.  As long he holds the promise of becoming a conduit of power to the machine and does not threaten it&#8217;s existence he&#8217;s free to do as he will.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the main part of the conflict unfolding: the Clinton machine vs the Chicago machine.  Since it&#8217;s transpiring in America, it&#8217;ll just be political careers ending and beginning.  If it were Moscow, there&#8217;d be Benz&#8217;s full of ex-Spetznaz toting AK&#8217;s, engaging in conflict resolution, Moscow-style.  Fortunately, events in Denver won&#8217;t reach that level of excitement.  </p>
<p>I will agree with you on the ruthlessness issue though&#8230;I suspect that comes the Alinsky side of his political pedigree.  Marxists have a tendency to not leave any intact rivals in their wake.</p>
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		<title>By: CPT. Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPT. Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddy L @1722hrs.

Actually, it&#039;s better than that:  http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/columns/TimothyCarney/T_Boone_Pickens_wants_your_water.html

Sorta like the bad olde days when the Railroad trusts romped all over the Western US...

All we need now is a 21st century Jesse James to make Picken&#039;s life miserable and the stage will be set.  Hmmm...I wonder which politician [shareholder...] is running cover for him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddy L @1722hrs.</p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s better than that:  <a href="http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/columns/TimothyCarney/T_Boone_Pickens_wants_your_water.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/columns/TimothyCarney/T_Boone_Pickens_wants_your_water.html</a></p>
<p>Sorta like the bad olde days when the Railroad trusts romped all over the Western US&#8230;</p>
<p>All we need now is a 21st century Jesse James to make Picken&#8217;s life miserable and the stage will be set.  Hmmm&#8230;I wonder which politician [shareholder...] is running cover for him?</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/25/unity/comment-page-2/#comment-9069</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched, on Jill Claman&#039;s Fox Business News show, Obama&#039;s economist Austan Goolsbee do again what I&#039;ve seen a dozen of O&#039;s people do exactly similarly: totally lie about their tax plan. &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB121910303529751345.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It&#039;s always the same two things&lt;/a&gt;, a false statement of who will pay, and a false statement about how much they&#039;ll pay. IOW, the two fundamentals, who and how much, they lie about. So i wrote Ms. Claman  --I&#039;ll just paste it:

 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: buddy larsen
To: feedback@foxbusiness.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:14 PM
Subject: Hi, Ms Claman, re your interview w/ Austan Goolsbee


Hi Ms. Claman,
 
Just now watched your interview with Obama&#039;s tax expert Austan Goolsbee, and wanted to mention that the $250k he kept implying is an individual threshold for various hefty tax increases, is in the actual Obama plan as a &quot;family&quot; limit --meaning $250k by both earners, if both spouses have paid jobs. 
 
He even embroidered, smiling &quot;not very many people make over that&quot; or somesuch.
 
Grrrrr.....No, but many many COUPLEs do. Big, big difference --which I would not be making this effort to correct, except that the Obama team is doing exactly the same thing everywhere, clearly conspiring to fool us rubes who never get the wise-up.
 
Further, his statement --oft repeated --that the plan is a &quot;net tax cut&quot; is another howling fibberooski. The plan has a trick where direct payments to favored individuals (in return for certain approved behaviors) are run through IRS rather than HHS, and called a &quot;refundable tax credit&quot;.  
 
What this means is, these payments get subtracted from IRS receipts. 
 
This is how the plan can be sold as a &quot;net tax cut&quot;. 
 
Nothing could be further from the truth. 
 
The &#039;&#039;credits&#039;&#039; are paid by the government. 
 
The money will be collected by taxation. 
 
So, new taxes, only juggled off the plan (tho as Enron learned, impossible to juggle off the actual ledger).
 
Grrrrrr....it ain&#039;t the $ so much as the deceit!
 
Anyhoo, here&#039;s a WSJ quickie on it, from August 19, by Peter Farrara:
 
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB121910303529751345.html

Thanks!

buddy larsen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched, on Jill Claman&#8217;s Fox Business News show, Obama&#8217;s economist Austan Goolsbee do again what I&#8217;ve seen a dozen of O&#8217;s people do exactly similarly: totally lie about their tax plan. <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB121910303529751345.html" rel="nofollow">It&#8217;s always the same two things</a>, a false statement of who will pay, and a false statement about how much they&#8217;ll pay. IOW, the two fundamentals, who and how much, they lie about. So i wrote Ms. Claman  &#8211;I&#8217;ll just paste it:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211;<br />
From: buddy larsen<br />
To: <a href="mailto:feedback@foxbusiness.com">feedback@foxbusiness.com</a><br />
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:14 PM<br />
Subject: Hi, Ms Claman, re your interview w/ Austan Goolsbee</p>
<p>Hi Ms. Claman,</p>
<p>Just now watched your interview with Obama&#8217;s tax expert Austan Goolsbee, and wanted to mention that the $250k he kept implying is an individual threshold for various hefty tax increases, is in the actual Obama plan as a &#8220;family&#8221; limit &#8211;meaning $250k by both earners, if both spouses have paid jobs. </p>
<p>He even embroidered, smiling &#8220;not very many people make over that&#8221; or somesuch.</p>
<p>Grrrrr&#8230;..No, but many many COUPLEs do. Big, big difference &#8211;which I would not be making this effort to correct, except that the Obama team is doing exactly the same thing everywhere, clearly conspiring to fool us rubes who never get the wise-up.</p>
<p>Further, his statement &#8211;oft repeated &#8211;that the plan is a &#8220;net tax cut&#8221; is another howling fibberooski. The plan has a trick where direct payments to favored individuals (in return for certain approved behaviors) are run through IRS rather than HHS, and called a &#8220;refundable tax credit&#8221;.  </p>
<p>What this means is, these payments get subtracted from IRS receipts. </p>
<p>This is how the plan can be sold as a &#8220;net tax cut&#8221;. </p>
<p>Nothing could be further from the truth. </p>
<p>The &#8221;credits&#8221; are paid by the government. </p>
<p>The money will be collected by taxation. </p>
<p>So, new taxes, only juggled off the plan (tho as Enron learned, impossible to juggle off the actual ledger).</p>
<p>Grrrrrr&#8230;.it ain&#8217;t the $ so much as the deceit!</p>
<p>Anyhoo, here&#8217;s a WSJ quickie on it, from August 19, by Peter Farrara:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB121910303529751345.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB121910303529751345.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>buddy larsen</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Obama&#039;s books.  I wasn&#039;t impressed with them and he leaves a lot out by way of explanation about the important people in his life.  He doesn&#039;t tell us he believes in socialist goals, just states what he believes by way of covering it all under the &quot;progressive&quot; label.  No, Mr. Sylvester, he hides a lot.  I find his two books interesting in parts, but strangely not reflective enough about who those people were who formed his thinking.

I still don&#039;t like socialists/Marxists who call themselves &quot;progressives&quot; in public, but privately admit to each other what I, in my time, openly and honestly told people outside of the fellow-traveling circles:  we are socialists who believe in Marxist analysis and are serious about the works of the the Frankfurt School Marxists.

I&#039;m a more honest person that Obama is.  Not bragging - just a fact.  I&#039;ve already judged him unfit for command.  No one is going to change my mind about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Obama&#8217;s books.  I wasn&#8217;t impressed with them and he leaves a lot out by way of explanation about the important people in his life.  He doesn&#8217;t tell us he believes in socialist goals, just states what he believes by way of covering it all under the &#8220;progressive&#8221; label.  No, Mr. Sylvester, he hides a lot.  I find his two books interesting in parts, but strangely not reflective enough about who those people were who formed his thinking.</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t like socialists/Marxists who call themselves &#8220;progressives&#8221; in public, but privately admit to each other what I, in my time, openly and honestly told people outside of the fellow-traveling circles:  we are socialists who believe in Marxist analysis and are serious about the works of the the Frankfurt School Marxists.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a more honest person that Obama is.  Not bragging &#8211; just a fact.  I&#8217;ve already judged him unfit for command.  No one is going to change my mind about this.</p>
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