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		<title>By: SchneiderView</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/26/the-wrong-man-sir/comment-page-3/#comment-11412</link>
		<dc:creator>SchneiderView</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, Richard Fernandez at Pajamas media questioned whether a Townhall blog post by Amanda Carpenter which identified a man said by Percy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Another Individual of Concern From Obama&#8217;s Past &#124; ...gettingpaidtowatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Individual of Concern From Obama&#8217;s Past &#124; ...gettingpaidtowatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carpenter, Belmont Club and Atlas Shrugs have posted peices on the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AMERICAN NONSENSE &#187; Jaw-dropper of the Day: Obama Recommended to Harvard by Dr. Khalid al Mansour</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMERICAN NONSENSE &#187; Jaw-dropper of the Day: Obama Recommended to Harvard by Dr. Khalid al Mansour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lord! does the media ever intend to do it&#8217;s job? Why is it that blogs are digging this stuff up, but the media have no clue? Townhall posted this jaw-dropping series of videos of the man said to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lord! does the media ever intend to do it&#8217;s job? Why is it that blogs are digging this stuff up, but the media have no clue? Townhall posted this jaw-dropping series of videos of the man said to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Who is Khalid al-Mansour, and why was he backing Obama in the 1980s? &#171; td blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who is Khalid al-Mansour, and why was he backing Obama in the 1980s? &#171; td blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fernandez, Belmont Club, The Wrong Man, Sir. (Aug. 26, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Benj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appreciate your angle Wade - You&#039;re seeing what I&#039;m seeing. The fact that Wretch was so blind suggests he&#039;s pretty much clueless about American movements of mind, especially when it comes to race matters. Or he&#039;s just willing to run with any rumor that makes O look bad for a hot second as per Mr. Rod R.&#039;s inspiring moral advice (and the &quot;Obama Nation&quot;) I&#039;m now wondering - if Wretch and Rod and Co are willing to go all Machiavelli on O - where do they draw the line...I was struck by the ender from some poster earlier in this thread -

&quot;I’m depending on the men of our nation to come to their senses. The swooning women? Not so much — they gave us Clinton in the 90’s, I’m told.&quot;

Mix that sort of macho with a little methamphetamine...

As Al Green sang - &quot;Leave your guns at home.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciate your angle Wade &#8211; You&#8217;re seeing what I&#8217;m seeing. The fact that Wretch was so blind suggests he&#8217;s pretty much clueless about American movements of mind, especially when it comes to race matters. Or he&#8217;s just willing to run with any rumor that makes O look bad for a hot second as per Mr. Rod R.&#8217;s inspiring moral advice (and the &#8220;Obama Nation&#8221;) I&#8217;m now wondering &#8211; if Wretch and Rod and Co are willing to go all Machiavelli on O &#8211; where do they draw the line&#8230;I was struck by the ender from some poster earlier in this thread -</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m depending on the men of our nation to come to their senses. The swooning women? Not so much — they gave us Clinton in the 90’s, I’m told.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mix that sort of macho with a little methamphetamine&#8230;</p>
<p>As Al Green sang &#8211; &#8220;Leave your guns at home.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wretchard</title>
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		<dc:creator>wretchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My concern about reports of Dr. Mansour&#039;s possible help for Obama isn&#039;t whether it is true but whether it is relevant.&lt;/i&gt;

The relevance is a second order problem. The first order problem is whether the incident is true. And the story was introduced in a context that was intended to be flattering to BHO by persons who are his admirers, as will be evident from the video. So the intent of those who introduced the subject into the public domain was to suggest that the Mansour incident was both true and relevant. It is not as if someone went dumpster diving to steal Obama&#039;s childhood records or spied on him. No. The entire thing was recounted and raised by his admirers. That being the case, it hardly seems fair to object to discussing a subject they themselves have raised on the grounds of irrelevancy or untruth.

Fundamental equity requires that it cuts both ways. If a man&#039;s supporters boast of something, why is it unfair to take their statements at their word? You will note that I was initially disinclined to believe Sutton, or maybe misgive his memory on account of his age, but was forced grudgingly to acknowledge from other web discoveries that Dr. al-Mansour was real.

But then we still haven&#039;t established the facts very clearly. We don&#039;t even know whether the Dr. Mansour described by Sutton is the Dr. Mansour web searches suggest. Maybe we can settle that first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My concern about reports of Dr. Mansour&#8217;s possible help for Obama isn&#8217;t whether it is true but whether it is relevant.</i></p>
<p>The relevance is a second order problem. The first order problem is whether the incident is true. And the story was introduced in a context that was intended to be flattering to BHO by persons who are his admirers, as will be evident from the video. So the intent of those who introduced the subject into the public domain was to suggest that the Mansour incident was both true and relevant. It is not as if someone went dumpster diving to steal Obama&#8217;s childhood records or spied on him. No. The entire thing was recounted and raised by his admirers. That being the case, it hardly seems fair to object to discussing a subject they themselves have raised on the grounds of irrelevancy or untruth.</p>
<p>Fundamental equity requires that it cuts both ways. If a man&#8217;s supporters boast of something, why is it unfair to take their statements at their word? You will note that I was initially disinclined to believe Sutton, or maybe misgive his memory on account of his age, but was forced grudgingly to acknowledge from other web discoveries that Dr. al-Mansour was real.</p>
<p>But then we still haven&#8217;t established the facts very clearly. We don&#8217;t even know whether the Dr. Mansour described by Sutton is the Dr. Mansour web searches suggest. Maybe we can settle that first.</p>
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		<title>By: Benj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexis - Thanks for your comment. Bolsters my faith in the Clubbers&#039; sense of honor. Sure hope your response SHAMES Wretchard. God knows, I&#039;m not the One to do that. Or course you&#039;re right re the irrelevance of the letter even if it existed. My guess is that Sutton may have been aware of the young O pretty early. But there&#039;s no reason to buy his claim a shady Arab was O&#039;s rabbi - Let me underscore again that Sutton has some make-up work to do (inside his own head) since his pro-Clinton Harlem pols were against the candidate who went on to become the first Black American to become a nominee of a major party. GIven Sutton&#039;s sense of his own legacy (Malcolm&#039;s lawyer, Dinkins&#039; advisor etc.) - that&#039;s got to be pretty embarrassing...

Man - Compared to Wretch - C-4 comes across as a model of rationality when it comes to Obama&#039;s patrons...Though I have to add-on there - given O&#039;s politics and the history of the American left - OF COURSE O would have major backers who were Jewish!  

I&#039;d urge anyone who&#039;s interested in Harvard LAw School and minorities to check the Wiki entry on Derreck Bell - Black law prof who was fired from the Law School in 1992 over his protests on behalf of diversity - At that time Harvard Law had 90 profs. 3 blacks and 5 women. The notion that Percy Sutton was a HEAVY player at pale (and male) Harvard Law School back in that day is, ah, fantastic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexis &#8211; Thanks for your comment. Bolsters my faith in the Clubbers&#8217; sense of honor. Sure hope your response SHAMES Wretchard. God knows, I&#8217;m not the One to do that. Or course you&#8217;re right re the irrelevance of the letter even if it existed. My guess is that Sutton may have been aware of the young O pretty early. But there&#8217;s no reason to buy his claim a shady Arab was O&#8217;s rabbi &#8211; Let me underscore again that Sutton has some make-up work to do (inside his own head) since his pro-Clinton Harlem pols were against the candidate who went on to become the first Black American to become a nominee of a major party. GIven Sutton&#8217;s sense of his own legacy (Malcolm&#8217;s lawyer, Dinkins&#8217; advisor etc.) &#8211; that&#8217;s got to be pretty embarrassing&#8230;</p>
<p>Man &#8211; Compared to Wretch &#8211; C-4 comes across as a model of rationality when it comes to Obama&#8217;s patrons&#8230;Though I have to add-on there &#8211; given O&#8217;s politics and the history of the American left &#8211; OF COURSE O would have major backers who were Jewish!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d urge anyone who&#8217;s interested in Harvard LAw School and minorities to check the Wiki entry on Derreck Bell &#8211; Black law prof who was fired from the Law School in 1992 over his protests on behalf of diversity &#8211; At that time Harvard Law had 90 profs. 3 blacks and 5 women. The notion that Percy Sutton was a HEAVY player at pale (and male) Harvard Law School back in that day is, ah, fantastic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(check it out @ google news)

&lt;i&gt;Russia Looks East After Criticism from the West
Deutsche Welle - 36 minutes ago
President Dmitry Medvedev met his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao and the leaders of four ex-Soviet Central Asian nations in a bid to secure support for Russia its standoff with the West over Georgia.
Video: Crisis in the Caucasus france24english
Georgia War Shows &#039;Weak&#039; Russia, US Official Says Washington Post
Voice of America - BBC News - AFP - Reuters
all 5,003 news articles »&lt;/i&gt;

Uh-oh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(check it out @ google news)</p>
<p><i>Russia Looks East After Criticism from the West<br />
Deutsche Welle &#8211; 36 minutes ago<br />
President Dmitry Medvedev met his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao and the leaders of four ex-Soviet Central Asian nations in a bid to secure support for Russia its standoff with the West over Georgia.<br />
Video: Crisis in the Caucasus france24english<br />
Georgia War Shows &#8216;Weak&#8217; Russia, US Official Says Washington Post<br />
Voice of America &#8211; BBC News &#8211; AFP &#8211; Reuters<br />
all 5,003 news articles »</i></p>
<p>Uh-oh.</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to diminish Mr. Sutton&#039;s achievements, but he never once mentions meeting or speaking to &quot;OH&quot;. That would have carried more weight toward a letter of recommendation than a request from an influential friend, no matter how influential. If Mr. Sutton was in the habit of granting such requests without the benefit of at least a phone interview then I would say he should add &quot;lucky&quot; to his name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to diminish Mr. Sutton&#8217;s achievements, but he never once mentions meeting or speaking to &#8220;OH&#8221;. That would have carried more weight toward a letter of recommendation than a request from an influential friend, no matter how influential. If Mr. Sutton was in the habit of granting such requests without the benefit of at least a phone interview then I would say he should add &#8220;lucky&#8221; to his name.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i forgot to make my point, fedya, which was in re your observation that Kremlin might as well be writing certain sensitive wikis, i meant to conclude that it might as well be running key parts of the US financial system, too, esp if it also wanted to put a pacifist in the white house, the US in a depression, defund the US military, take over the Persian Gulf, and wrest the global system away from the Dollar, too.

Naaah. if that were the case, there wouldn&#039;t be a Wiki on the Verona Project. oops --there &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i forgot to make my point, fedya, which was in re your observation that Kremlin might as well be writing certain sensitive wikis, i meant to conclude that it might as well be running key parts of the US financial system, too, esp if it also wanted to put a pacifist in the white house, the US in a depression, defund the US military, take over the Persian Gulf, and wrest the global system away from the Dollar, too.</p>
<p>Naaah. if that were the case, there wouldn&#8217;t be a Wiki on the Verona Project. oops &#8211;there <i>isn&#8217;t</i>.</p>
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