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August 30th, 2008 2:58 pm

It’s nature’s way

Himmel

CNN says that hurricane Gustav’s impact on the Gulf states has sparked contingency planning among the coordinators of the Republican national convention. Both sides are positioning themselves to react to the political implications of a potential natural disaster. In a recent interview with Keith Olbermann (video at link) film maker Michael Moore said, “‘I was just thinking, this Gustav is proof that there is a God in heaven,’ Moore said, laughing. ‘To have it planned at the same time – that it would actually be on its way to New Orleans for day one of the Republican Convention, up in the Twin Cities – at the top of the Mississippi River.’”

“A senior McCain source said Saturday that officials are considering turning the convention into a service event, a massive telethon to raise money for the Red Cross and other agencies to help with the hurricane. … They are also hoping to get McCain himself to a storm-affected area as soon as possible.  …  Republican Govs. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida, Haley Barbour of Mississippi and Rick Perry of Texas — whose states that lie in the path of Gustav, named a Category 4 hurricane Saturday afternoon — will skip the GOP convention because of the storm.”


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1. trangbang68:

I have to think proof of the reality of a just God will lie more in the day that fat lying jackass Moore eats one Monster Thick Burger too many and turns to fried gristle.

Aug 30, 2008 - 3:49 pm 2. Alexis:

Michael Moore comes across to me as the kind of guy who is more interested in grabbing the steering wheel than bothering to consider whether he is causing the bus to lunge over a cliff. Somebody in the Democratic Party had better do a “Sister Souljah moment” on Michael Moore because his comments give Democrats a noxious odor. Does Barack Obama have the courage to denounce Michael Moore’s comments? Let’s see what happens…

Meanwhile, I think John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin for the Vice Presidency shows just how much he hates Communists. And what better way to poke Communists in the eye than to pick a socially conservative member of the proletariat as his running mate? What better way to poke al-Qaeda in the eye than to pick a woman who hunts moose in the Alaskan wilderness? What better way to poke radical feminists in the eye than to pick a pro-life mother of a baby with Down’s Syndrome for Vice President? Think about it, a real “dictatorship of the proletariat” would be more likely to be run by Sarah Palin than by any coffee house Communist.

Aug 30, 2008 - 3:57 pm 3. Panday:

My religious side tells me to pray for Michael Moore so that he might repent and become a good man.

My human side, however, is really looking forward to the day Michael Moore has a fatal heart attack which finally shuts his big, fat mouth.

Aug 30, 2008 - 4:13 pm 4. cjm:

moore is a disgusting pos crackhead. the sooner he gets called “home” the better. in other words, just another run of the mill democrat. what a vile collection of refuse that party is.

Aug 30, 2008 - 4:15 pm 5. Bonzo:

The selection of Obama is far more telling as to the whims and idiosyncrasies of American voters. Those who most loudly define W as a buffoon and idiot have erected and acclaim and applaud Obama, the penultimate empty-suit. They do not see the irony. I’m not sure they can see the irony.

Kerry chose Edwards as VP. Edwards, a trial lawyer who used faulty science to sue OB/GYN’s. They did not notice the oddity of that choice.

Remember how W stole the election in 2000?
Gore chose Lieberman as VP in 2000. Lieberman was ridiculed, spit on and then thrown out of his party.

We certainly live in interesting times.

Aug 30, 2008 - 4:30 pm 6. Zim:

Well, if there is another break in the levies I know what we could plug it with.

Aug 30, 2008 - 4:30 pm 7. WK:

Moore might be too big for a levee breach.

I’m sure you could airdrop him beside it and he could inhale the water.

Aug 30, 2008 - 4:36 pm 8. NahnCee:

Roger Ebert is a violently anti-American pro-left movie reviewer. He has referred to it as a known fact in one of his reviews that American soldiers routinely use torture, for example.

Does the fact that he now has throat cancer and cannot speak mean that God wanted to shut him up?

How about Ted Kennedy? If someone is that drunken and stupid and anti-American for so many decades, is God striking back through what’s left of his pickled brain and giving him brain cancer?

If Mr. Moore could find it within himself to expand his world view outside a junior high school cafeteria sensibility, he’d notice that Very Bad Things happen to both Democrats and Republicans. And that perhaps, in imputing God’s punishment or reward according to Moore’s own stunted morality he is, in fact, afixing a target circle to his own back for God to aim at in coming up with a suitable riposte.

Aug 30, 2008 - 4:36 pm 9. wretchard:

Mr. Moore, I think, has inflicted enough punishment on himself without the need to add to it. He is not very interesting except as an example of the increased speed at which the news cycle operates. Denver-Palin-Gustav. In a fast-moving situation, where the meme can’t be controlled by talking points each political side will respond to breaking events in accordance with its culture.

The instinct of some of the Democrat side was to revile Palin until they realized it was a bad idea. Moore goes off and thanks God for chastisement of Gustav, speaking from instinct rather than deliberation. A quickly changing political situation will favor the side with the more decent and rational tendencies.

It will be interesting to see which political side holds up better if the cycle speeds up even further. But in general, the side with more common sense and fewer loose cannons will have the advantage.

Aug 30, 2008 - 5:25 pm 10. Ben Franklen:

I think one of the places where this country made a wrong turn was in pretending that people like Moore are worth noticing. In the wrongheaded pursuit of trying to give equal voice to every side of an issue we have ended up giving the megaphone to people who are manifestly insane. Not only that, we have pretended to take their ideas seriously by pairing them on news shows with legitimate experts. This has happened often enough, over a long enough period of time that the public can no longer tell which talking head is insane and which is not.

Insane people tend to be more interesting and we all like to be entertained. They also tend to be paranoid and we all like to feel aggrieved or put upon in some fashion. And so a nation of victims select pundits who feed their delusions while they in turn feed the pundit’s delusions in an infinite feedback loop that can only end up in what is a cult of personality. Obama or someone like him is the natural result.

Aug 30, 2008 - 5:42 pm 11. fred:

It certainly does say something about the tastes of our entertainment culture that a fat f**k like Michael Moore can get so much attention and be allowed to spew his putrid venom in the political sphere. Almost everything that issues forth from his oral orifice is effluence. The man thinks he’s important, but he’s not.

I hope McCain and the Republicans do turn the convention into a fundraising event for the victims and communities of the hurricane. Brilliant of him to think of that. It says something about the man.

Thus, once again, McCain is inside of Obama’s OODA Loop. At some point his idiot opponents simply have to be given the Darwin Award by the voters.

Aug 30, 2008 - 5:59 pm 12. buddy larsen:

Anybody ever wonder why Moore is famous? How did he get that way? “Roger & me” you’ll say, that edgy first big film –but, why did that little polemic make a national splash?

Aug 30, 2008 - 6:13 pm 13. cjm:

“Bowling For Columbine” got him a little attention, then “Farenheit 9/11″ got him in front of the anti-war circus. since then he is pretty much back to being inconsequential. i suspect he is simply too disgusting for even the dems to associate with.

Aug 30, 2008 - 6:31 pm 14. cjm:

i have read at more than one site that he has a raging cocaine habit. if true, then he is already in a kind of hell (and his heart will be going “poof” soon). where’s Cathy Smith when you need her…

Aug 30, 2008 - 6:38 pm 15. buddy larsen:

It just blows my mind that any hard-left agitprop venture can create an instant celebrity out of the blue sky. it’s like, you and your family sit down to dinner, and there’s some new person sitting there, and nobody wants to remark on it because everybody else seems to know him. Of course, they’re all assuming the same thing. then after dinner he flops out on the couch, and in your house he lives from then on. Hey, where the hell do these people come from, anyway?

Aug 30, 2008 - 6:42 pm 16. neolex:

@buddy

That’s probably how dinner is in his family.

Aug 30, 2008 - 7:18 pm 17. buddy larsen:

i’d describe dinner in his family as “often”.

Aug 30, 2008 - 8:02 pm 18. Dave:

The late Joseph Alsop was a liberal Democrat gentleman, from an era in which those words were not a contradiction in terms.

Referring to some Reagan critics of the 1980s,
he said: “Anybody who expects to win politically by having his country suffer should be taken to the nearest whipping post.”

Were Mr Alsop around today, he might alter that to include hanging, drawing and quartering.

Aug 30, 2008 - 8:09 pm 19. RossM:

I wonder if Kanye West will make the claim that Michael Moore hates black people…

Aug 30, 2008 - 8:24 pm 20. Wadeusaf:

Well If this hurricane makes it’s landfall at the Big Easy, we will see if the Mayor is capable of learning. We will see the difference a prepared Governor can make, and with luck we will not have occasion to see if FEMA has improved it reaction plan for LA emergencies. Still it is in the hands of the Governor and the behest of the mayor to initiate any Federal aid stream. All they ever had to do was ask, and having asked cooperate within reason.

Aug 30, 2008 - 8:49 pm 21. NahnCee:

I thought cocaine made you skinny, while weed gives you the munchies. Although Belushi was pudgy so maybe that’s wrong.

Aug 30, 2008 - 9:43 pm 22. cedarford:

Well, I hope the hurricane misses major city areas, that it weakens. But if it hits strong, it will be about the 350th major hurricane to hit the US Coast since America was a nation.

Most of the others were dealt with with little or no help from the Federal Government – even with widespread disaster and death.

Now the narrative has changed – both parties now openly pander to “feelings” and the MSM narrative that any misfortune from natures forces is either the government’s fault for failing to prevent it. Or the governments fault for not making subsea underclass, owners of million-dollar properties on barrier islands “perfectly whole again” with Chinese debt that the people of New York, Michigan, Illinois will pay back, or in added taxes if either Party has the guts to resume “pay as you go.”.

It gets harder and harder to explain why flooded Ohio towns and Michigan workers displaced by fatcat owners for Chinese labor and out of home are basically “on their own” and have to fend for themselves after initial, if any Federal help…..but that somehow they are “morally obligated” to help rebuild, house (sometimes in 1,000 dollar a week hotels), and pay restaurant bills, and let Bush & Dems endorse borrowing another billion or so from China to pay for 2K debit cards issued to “Noble NOLA victims”.

(Or the 60 billion we spent to pay salaried for Bush’s “noble Iraqi freedom-lovers).

I get a queasy feeling about Republicans talking about putting off their meeting on Presidential elections, Dems rushing to Nagi’s side, and MSM looking for “Great suffering Special Victims” for a weather event that is predictable every 5-10 years. And largely predicated on moneyed interests zoning, developing, building, and settling land that people really shouldn’t be allowed to build on – and expect others living in
sensible areas for housing to pay the bill for and care for residents whenever the inivitable happens.

(Outside the media, there was scant sympathy for both NOLA scum acting like whiny thugs, and wealthy Texas lawyers complaining that it takes too long to get Federal money or Federally subsidized insurance payouts to rebuild their 1.4 million beach condos “for the 3rd time since 1980″)

Aug 30, 2008 - 9:44 pm 23. Charles:

It rains on the just and the unjust alike.

God’s wrath is defined not by the act of nature itself but by man’s response to nature. If hard times drive a man toward God, then its God’s testing. If hard times drives a man away from God — then its God’s wrath.

What’s poorly understood is that the same holds true for good times.

Aug 30, 2008 - 10:16 pm 24. trangbang68:

Didn’t Phat Moore have the place of honor next to Jimmie Carter at the 2004 Democrat Convention? They’re all nuts.

Aug 30, 2008 - 11:00 pm 25. Lifeofthemind:

Thinking about Wretchard’s comment that the worldly Mr Moore, he is larger at the equator than the poles, speaks without thinking. On a prior thread I was commenting on the need for Junior Officers to submit their tactical innovations to the review of their Seniors. That form of discipline, the ability to pause, reflect and then act as in OODA, is a cultural behavior. It is congruent with the value system of Capitalism and Weber’s Protestant Ethic. It is Northern European and shared by other highly productive and adaptable cultures. As such it is seen as a threat by the highly emotional and individualistic value system championed by Mr Moore and the Left. Individualistic may be the wrong term. Particularistic comes to mind. As Hofstedder showed the revolutionary process first atomizes society and then leaves the individual naked before the Totalitarian state. Note that leaders and creators of the Revolution such as Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin were in their personal focus and discipline almost Victorian.

Aug 30, 2008 - 11:19 pm 26. Paul A. Gaddis:

One wonders what the poor people of NOLA are thinking of Mr. Moore’s comments. Are they happy to once again be cast into filthy water just so the Democrats can gain votes? Isn’t it racist? Why is anyone chuckling along with Mr. Moore as he calls for death and destruction just to help his side win?

If the Republicans do turn their convention into a fund raiser I will actually send some money.. not much.. I got my own problems to attend to and, since I’m white, male and an American, I can expect no help.

Aug 31, 2008 - 6:01 am 27. 3Case:

I’ll say it again:

Michael Moore is a bunny murderer. See Roger & Me. All else flows from his gratuitous bunny murdering. It is the window to his soul.

Aug 31, 2008 - 6:11 am 28. 3Case:

C4,

Well, I hope the hurricane misses major city areas, that it weakens.

I with you in that hope. My concern is that the storm tracks I see show the eye of the storm being West of the Katrina track, which would put the most violent part of the storm on the city rather than in Mississippi, where it was for Katrina.

I’ve seen Mayor Nagin on the tube a couple times and he looks to be leading from out front and shifting his organizational response and tactics as the situation evolves. Good for him!

Aug 31, 2008 - 6:23 am 29. Boghie:

To me the most interesting aspect of this discussion is the list of leaders entrusted to deal with the situation.

While I don’t know much about Crist, I can say that the others are decisive.

I think Michael Moore will be rather disappointed. Short term and long term.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:01 am 30. RAH:

I think it is wrong to stop the convention. There are sufficient resources devoted to the storm and there is nothing we can do until the storm leaves.

People paid in time and money to attend this convention to pick the nominee. It is important to the people who do the work of the Party to get this chance for recognition and see all the leaders of the Party.

To cancel this is to disrespect the Republicans who have scrimped and saved and paid for hotels and travel arrangements.

I understand that the President and the VP have other important things to do, but the regular speakers have nothing to do with helping the storm areas. The Governors of those affected states are already staying in their states to manage this.

McCain and Palin do not come in town until Wednesday so why did they cancel the speakers other than the President for Monday? It makes no sense to cancel a convention because of a natural disaster. I guarantee if Gustav were hitting Florida they would not cancel the first day. Florida is used to hurricanes and has dealt with 6 in 4 weeks before. They just went through Fay.

I will not give any notice the scum of Michael Moore.

Aug 31, 2008 - 6:00 pm 31. starling:

Has Michael Moore been attending Trinity Church?

Aug 31, 2008 - 8:19 pm 32. buddy larsen:

only the Wednesday night ice cream socials

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:29 pm

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