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		<title>By: aaronh.</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/17/ourworld/comment-page-2/#comment-20537</link>
		<dc:creator>aaronh.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you</description>
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		<title>By: fnord</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/17/ourworld/comment-page-2/#comment-18785</link>
		<dc:creator>fnord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Good critiscism of the article, Old Blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Good critiscism of the article, Old Blue.</p>
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		<title>By: fnord</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/17/ourworld/comment-page-2/#comment-18784</link>
		<dc:creator>fnord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Blue: Its true that the story is mainly the history of Nir Rosen nearly getting killed by the Taleban. So its not a great article from a military pov. It does however paint a picture of the security situation in Afghanistan where the enemy is free to move at will even in Kabul. Wich says a lot. It also points (indirectly) to the problems of the convoys using the new roads, wich were lauded as so important from a COIN centric pov and have turned out to be not so very much so. So for what its worth, a few interesting bits of info.

Ernest Brown: Blah blah blah, how do you hold a &quot;culture&quot; accountable for &quot;its&quot; acts? Does it, the &quot;culture&quot; live anywhere in the physical world? The US armed forces are currently training and equipping two muslim armies. It seems to me counterproductive for people to be howling &quot;No dialog with islam&quot; in this setting, no?

Its interesting that none of the blatant racists (or maybe culturalists is a better term) who wrote drivel about muslims wanting to rape blonde girls as part of their religion has been confronted by anyone in here. Silence indicates agreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Blue: Its true that the story is mainly the history of Nir Rosen nearly getting killed by the Taleban. So its not a great article from a military pov. It does however paint a picture of the security situation in Afghanistan where the enemy is free to move at will even in Kabul. Wich says a lot. It also points (indirectly) to the problems of the convoys using the new roads, wich were lauded as so important from a COIN centric pov and have turned out to be not so very much so. So for what its worth, a few interesting bits of info.</p>
<p>Ernest Brown: Blah blah blah, how do you hold a &#8220;culture&#8221; accountable for &#8220;its&#8221; acts? Does it, the &#8220;culture&#8221; live anywhere in the physical world? The US armed forces are currently training and equipping two muslim armies. It seems to me counterproductive for people to be howling &#8220;No dialog with islam&#8221; in this setting, no?</p>
<p>Its interesting that none of the blatant racists (or maybe culturalists is a better term) who wrote drivel about muslims wanting to rape blonde girls as part of their religion has been confronted by anyone in here. Silence indicates agreement.</p>
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		<title>By: Cannoneer No. 4</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/17/ourworld/comment-page-2/#comment-18565</link>
		<dc:creator>Cannoneer No. 4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read &lt;a href=&quot;http://billandbobsadventure.blogspot.com/2008/10/nir-rosen-and-temple-mosque-of-doom.html#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nir Rosen And The Temple (Mosque) Of Doom&lt;/a&gt; on Old Blue&#039;s blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read <a href="http://billandbobsadventure.blogspot.com/2008/10/nir-rosen-and-temple-mosque-of-doom.html#comments" rel="nofollow">Nir Rosen And The Temple (Mosque) Of Doom</a> on Old Blue&#8217;s blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest Brown</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/17/ourworld/comment-page-2/#comment-18362</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernest Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we can see that useful idiots like Fnord turn a blind eye to the anti-humanistic hatefulness of Islamic extremism, thinking that it is better to burn women to death than to hold said culture accountable for its acts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we can see that useful idiots like Fnord turn a blind eye to the anti-humanistic hatefulness of Islamic extremism, thinking that it is better to burn women to death than to hold said culture accountable for its acts.</p>
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		<title>By: Cannoneer No. 4</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/17/ourworld/comment-page-2/#comment-18234</link>
		<dc:creator>Cannoneer No. 4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosen and &lt;i&gt;Rolling Stone&lt;/i&gt; volunteered to participate in a Taliban Morale Operation against the American domestic target audience.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://amicablecollisions.blogspot.com/2008/05/real-war-is-media-war.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;The real war is the media war&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosen and <i>Rolling Stone</i> volunteered to participate in a Taliban Morale Operation against the American domestic target audience.</p>
<p><a href="http://amicablecollisions.blogspot.com/2008/05/real-war-is-media-war.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;The real war is the media war&#8221;</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread is probably dead, but the original article to which it referred is one that bears a lot of discussion.  I was surprised that Abu Mukawama treated it as gently as they did, really.  I see very little in the article other than one man&#039;s experience with the Taliban and nearly losing his head to his own stupidity.  

Nir Rosen&#039;s interview on &quot;Democracy Now!&quot; revealed a bit more about his character and leanings to me.  One quote from the interview; 

&lt;blockquote&gt; And it&#039;s unfortunate that -- Obama, of course, one of his major platforms is to withdraw from Iraq. That&#039;s the bad war; he needs the good war. So Afghanistan now is the good war. He needs to prove, as a Democrat, that he too can kill brown people. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

indicates to me an &quot;anti-war&quot; bent that must by any evaluation color his writings.  This slant explains why his writings repeat insurgent claims and dogma as if they were facts.  

&lt;i&gt;Rolling Stone&lt;/i&gt; has generated some widely-read reporting on this war, mostly on the Iraq Campaign.  Now they are weighing in on the Afghan Campaign as well, and it&#039;s more of the same.  Defeatism and how are we wrong.  

Afghanistan was &quot;the good war&quot; in juxtaposition to the &quot;bad war&quot; in Iraq.  That was a diversion to make opposition seem reasonable.  Now the colors begin to show; there is no just war.  We are wrong on all counts; murderers of innocents; oppressors of &quot;brown people.&quot;    

Back to being baby killers.  

Yet we cannot get a lick of objective reporting from Afghanistan or certainly Iraq.  When the news is good, they simply don&#039;t report from there.  Only the bad, the loss, any setbacks; any difficulty on our part.  That&#039;s what makes the news.  

Nir Rosen does not lay claim to titling his article, but he did write the words that have declared a Taliban victory in Afghanistan.  Unless things have changed that drastically in the past six months since I left the place, I am pretty sure he and I were not in the same country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is probably dead, but the original article to which it referred is one that bears a lot of discussion.  I was surprised that Abu Mukawama treated it as gently as they did, really.  I see very little in the article other than one man&#8217;s experience with the Taliban and nearly losing his head to his own stupidity.  </p>
<p>Nir Rosen&#8217;s interview on &#8220;Democracy Now!&#8221; revealed a bit more about his character and leanings to me.  One quote from the interview; </p>
<blockquote><p> And it&#8217;s unfortunate that &#8212; Obama, of course, one of his major platforms is to withdraw from Iraq. That&#8217;s the bad war; he needs the good war. So Afghanistan now is the good war. He needs to prove, as a Democrat, that he too can kill brown people. </p></blockquote>
<p>indicates to me an &#8220;anti-war&#8221; bent that must by any evaluation color his writings.  This slant explains why his writings repeat insurgent claims and dogma as if they were facts.  </p>
<p><i>Rolling Stone</i> has generated some widely-read reporting on this war, mostly on the Iraq Campaign.  Now they are weighing in on the Afghan Campaign as well, and it&#8217;s more of the same.  Defeatism and how are we wrong.  </p>
<p>Afghanistan was &#8220;the good war&#8221; in juxtaposition to the &#8220;bad war&#8221; in Iraq.  That was a diversion to make opposition seem reasonable.  Now the colors begin to show; there is no just war.  We are wrong on all counts; murderers of innocents; oppressors of &#8220;brown people.&#8221;    </p>
<p>Back to being baby killers.  </p>
<p>Yet we cannot get a lick of objective reporting from Afghanistan or certainly Iraq.  When the news is good, they simply don&#8217;t report from there.  Only the bad, the loss, any setbacks; any difficulty on our part.  That&#8217;s what makes the news.  </p>
<p>Nir Rosen does not lay claim to titling his article, but he did write the words that have declared a Taliban victory in Afghanistan.  Unless things have changed that drastically in the past six months since I left the place, I am pretty sure he and I were not in the same country.</p>
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		<title>By: Cannoneer No. 4</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cannoneer No. 4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I highly recommend the above link.  Great pics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I highly recommend the above link.  Great pics.</p>
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		<title>By: Cannoneer No. 4</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/17/ourworld/comment-page-2/#comment-18070</link>
		<dc:creator>Cannoneer No. 4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.freerangeinternational.com/?p=558&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Traveling in the East of Afghanistan; Jalalabad, The Khyber Pass, Peshawar, with a Small Rant on Reconstruction&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.freerangeinternational.com/?p=558" rel="nofollow">Traveling in the East of Afghanistan; Jalalabad, The Khyber Pass, Peshawar, with a Small Rant on Reconstruction</a></p>
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		<title>By: fnord</title>
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		<dc:creator>fnord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3case: &quot;3. Lying is how leftys work. They lie consciously and unconsciously with the unconscious lying being chosen conciously, which is to say they tend to like ignorance as it serves their purposes, which are usually related to getting something for nothing at someone else’s expense.&quot;

Right. If it makes you sleep at night knowing that everyone who disagrees with you are pathological liars who hate you anyway, sure sir. And never mind that the Bolsheviks exterminated people of my political opinion, you can call me a Lying Commie-Dhimmi faggot who likes to take it up the arse from muslims. Its been a pleasure getting my prejudices confirmed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3case: &#8220;3. Lying is how leftys work. They lie consciously and unconsciously with the unconscious lying being chosen conciously, which is to say they tend to like ignorance as it serves their purposes, which are usually related to getting something for nothing at someone else’s expense.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right. If it makes you sleep at night knowing that everyone who disagrees with you are pathological liars who hate you anyway, sure sir. And never mind that the Bolsheviks exterminated people of my political opinion, you can call me a Lying Commie-Dhimmi faggot who likes to take it up the arse from muslims. Its been a pleasure getting my prejudices confirmed.</p>
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