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		<title>By: Bob Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4. NahnCee:
If you had all the cops, entrepeneurs, and other productive types in one country that might be very cool, for awhile.
But then they would have kids...
18 years later you would probably be back to square 1. Parental hegemony would be like a red flag in front of a bull.
Like the mid and late 60s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4. NahnCee:<br />
If you had all the cops, entrepeneurs, and other productive types in one country that might be very cool, for awhile.<br />
But then they would have kids&#8230;<br />
18 years later you would probably be back to square 1. Parental hegemony would be like a red flag in front of a bull.<br />
Like the mid and late 60s.</p>
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		<title>By: mika2k1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mika2k1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You get into every Judeo-Christian person’s face on a regular basis.
==

No, it is the Pauline liars and Roman Imperialists that get in my face on a regular basis. Amalek preyed on the weak and defenseless Israelites. It&#039;s quite a different story here, isn&#039;t it. In fact, if anyone in history is deserving of the title Amalek, it would be the Pauline Roman Imperialists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You get into every Judeo-Christian person’s face on a regular basis.<br />
==</p>
<p>No, it is the Pauline liars and Roman Imperialists that get in my face on a regular basis. Amalek preyed on the weak and defenseless Israelites. It&#8217;s quite a different story here, isn&#8217;t it. In fact, if anyone in history is deserving of the title Amalek, it would be the Pauline Roman Imperialists.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mika: you are relentlessly in your face despite your protestation .

&lt;blockquote&gt; Persistence of evil
Oct 29, 2008 - 5:37 pm  171. mika2k1:

Mica, you try to sound Jewish in this thread, but your bile for Christians and their faith is consistent with what I’ve pointed out about you in other threads, and in a couple of posts at my own site.
==

Pascal,

My “bile” is directed at Imperialists. It’s true I have little patience for religious superstitions and lies, but as long as those superstitions are kept private and disconnected from Imperial political ambitions, I’m willing to live and let live.

As for Amalek, I’m a fierce Israeli/Hebrew nationalist. I understand why the Jewish religion is central to that cultural ethnic and national identity, and as long as it doesn’t get in face, again, I’m willing to live and let live.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 



You twice said you are willing to live and let live yet you persist without any provocation. Seeing as how green you have shown yourself to be, Live and let die would be more the style of the anti-natalist greens. But I bet you would be far more proactive if you had the nerve.

You get into every Judeo-Christian person&#039;s face on a regular basis. Amalek is the human embodiment of evil. You can be born of any tribe and still be Amalek; it&#039;s a choice. For that matter, you could claim to be anything you want, but your true Amalekite comes out here daily.

Exception noted: Amalek had nerve; you have something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mika: you are relentlessly in your face despite your protestation .</p>
<blockquote><p> Persistence of evil<br />
Oct 29, 2008 &#8211; 5:37 pm  171. mika2k1:</p>
<p>Mica, you try to sound Jewish in this thread, but your bile for Christians and their faith is consistent with what I’ve pointed out about you in other threads, and in a couple of posts at my own site.<br />
==</p>
<p>Pascal,</p>
<p>My “bile” is directed at Imperialists. It’s true I have little patience for religious superstitions and lies, but as long as those superstitions are kept private and disconnected from Imperial political ambitions, I’m willing to live and let live.</p>
<p>As for Amalek, I’m a fierce Israeli/Hebrew nationalist. I understand why the Jewish religion is central to that cultural ethnic and national identity, and as long as it doesn’t get in face, again, I’m willing to live and let live.</p></blockquote>
<p>You twice said you are willing to live and let live yet you persist without any provocation. Seeing as how green you have shown yourself to be, Live and let die would be more the style of the anti-natalist greens. But I bet you would be far more proactive if you had the nerve.</p>
<p>You get into every Judeo-Christian person&#8217;s face on a regular basis. Amalek is the human embodiment of evil. You can be born of any tribe and still be Amalek; it&#8217;s a choice. For that matter, you could claim to be anything you want, but your true Amalekite comes out here daily.</p>
<p>Exception noted: Amalek had nerve; you have something else.</p>
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		<title>By: mika2k1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mika2k1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the glory days of atheism have passed
==

This has nothing to do with atheism. This has everything to do with Roman propaganda, the falsification of Jewish history by Roman Imperialists, and the highjacking reediting and falsification of Nasorean writings by these Roman Imperialists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the glory days of atheism have passed<br />
==</p>
<p>This has nothing to do with atheism. This has everything to do with Roman propaganda, the falsification of Jewish history by Roman Imperialists, and the highjacking reediting and falsification of Nasorean writings by these Roman Imperialists.</p>
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		<title>By: slade</title>
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		<dc:creator>slade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;certainly the glory days of atheism have passed.&lt;/i&gt; - Charles

Amen Brother.

But seriously, to add to your argument, the discoveries within quantum mechanics of the last quarter of the last century should have been enough to put atheism firmly in the skeptic&#039;s corner.  (I am agnostic myself but I have an uneasy feeling I might be overly optimistic.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>certainly the glory days of atheism have passed.</i> &#8211; Charles</p>
<p>Amen Brother.</p>
<p>But seriously, to add to your argument, the discoveries within quantum mechanics of the last quarter of the last century should have been enough to put atheism firmly in the skeptic&#8217;s corner.  (I am agnostic myself but I have an uneasy feeling I might be overly optimistic.)</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One age does not map over on to another perfectly. imho if anything, the years preceding the destruction of the soloman&#039;s temple in 589 bc/bce better maps over on to today&#039;s world for israel than the events that preceded the destuction of Herod&#039;s temple in 70 ad/ce.

but in order to have the temple destroyed -- first ya gotta build the temple. kapish?

I have argued on this board several times that this age most closely resembles the early 1500&#039;s because that period marked the furthest advance of islam and also the time when it first started to be turned back in Spain. 

The second thing about that period that is similiar to today is the recovery of old documents and archaelogy.the spanish plundered the moors libraries in cadiz and elsewhere and recovered greek texts which were unknown in the west.

Today hardly  six months goes by when some inscription is not found in Israel or elsewhere in the middle east   that confirms the events of the Old And New Testaments. 

Time and again the work of the archaelogists confirm that the both the Old and New Testaments are historically accurate accounts of the ages. Therefor they are helpful source documents in any discussion of the history of that part of the world.

The reason that both the Old and the New Testament engage all the other peoples of the world is that they contain the spirit of truth. They show Israelis in their true light. Warts and all. Therefor they speak to the human condition of all peoples.

This is something very different from the propaganda of the Egyptians the Babylonians Persians Romans etc.

(other reasons that this age imho --most closely resembles the early 1500&#039;s are that 1.) Ptolemy&#039;s astronomy was overturned by Galileo. Something very similar is happening today. 2.)technology advanced along a broad front including things like the printing press. the internet today has much the same effect as the printing press. 3.)the exploration the the new world had begun then as the exploration of space has begun today. 4.) luther began the reformation in worms in 1519. there is no reformation in europe today. but that might happen yet. certainly the glory days of atheism have passed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One age does not map over on to another perfectly. imho if anything, the years preceding the destruction of the soloman&#8217;s temple in 589 bc/bce better maps over on to today&#8217;s world for israel than the events that preceded the destuction of Herod&#8217;s temple in 70 ad/ce.</p>
<p>but in order to have the temple destroyed &#8212; first ya gotta build the temple. kapish?</p>
<p>I have argued on this board several times that this age most closely resembles the early 1500&#8217;s because that period marked the furthest advance of islam and also the time when it first started to be turned back in Spain. </p>
<p>The second thing about that period that is similiar to today is the recovery of old documents and archaelogy.the spanish plundered the moors libraries in cadiz and elsewhere and recovered greek texts which were unknown in the west.</p>
<p>Today hardly  six months goes by when some inscription is not found in Israel or elsewhere in the middle east   that confirms the events of the Old And New Testaments. </p>
<p>Time and again the work of the archaelogists confirm that the both the Old and New Testaments are historically accurate accounts of the ages. Therefor they are helpful source documents in any discussion of the history of that part of the world.</p>
<p>The reason that both the Old and the New Testament engage all the other peoples of the world is that they contain the spirit of truth. They show Israelis in their true light. Warts and all. Therefor they speak to the human condition of all peoples.</p>
<p>This is something very different from the propaganda of the Egyptians the Babylonians Persians Romans etc.</p>
<p>(other reasons that this age imho &#8211;most closely resembles the early 1500&#8217;s are that 1.) Ptolemy&#8217;s astronomy was overturned by Galileo. Something very similar is happening today. 2.)technology advanced along a broad front including things like the printing press. the internet today has much the same effect as the printing press. 3.)the exploration the the new world had begun then as the exploration of space has begun today. 4.) luther began the reformation in worms in 1519. there is no reformation in europe today. but that might happen yet. certainly the glory days of atheism have passed.</p>
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		<title>By: mika2k1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mika2k1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..depleted its reserves ^of stones..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..depleted its reserves ^of stones..</p>
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		<title>By: mika2k1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mika2k1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As soon as the chief priests and their officials saw him, they shouted, &quot;Crucify! Crucify!&quot;
But Pilate answered, &quot;You take him and crucify him. As for me, I find no basis for a charge against him.&quot;
==

Poor Pontus Pilate, only doing what he&#039;s told by his Jooish superiors. Judea having apparently completely depleted its reserves stones on all the other Jooish Roman sympathizers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soon as the chief priests and their officials saw him, they shouted, &#8220;Crucify! Crucify!&#8221;<br />
But Pilate answered, &#8220;You take him and crucify him. As for me, I find no basis for a charge against him.&#8221;<br />
==</p>
<p>Poor Pontus Pilate, only doing what he&#8217;s told by his Jooish superiors. Judea having apparently completely depleted its reserves stones on all the other Jooish Roman sympathizers.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>107. NahnCee:

I do wish that management would issue some sort of new rule or request banning multiple (or any, actually) Biblical quotations. 
............
109. mika2k1:

==

I’ll say it again:

The Roman thieves stole Judea. They killed her people. They killed Jesus’ Jewish identity and heritage. They falsified Jesus’ history, the cause of his murder, turned reality on its head, and blamed “THE JEWS” for their murder.
Nov 1, 2008 - 6:04 am 110. mika2k1:

Btw, how anyone can read that stupefying Roman propaganda nonsense and not have their brain cell walls cave in on themselves is beyond me. And given by the quotes plastered here, beyond the laws of nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>107. NahnCee:</p>
<p>I do wish that management would issue some sort of new rule or request banning multiple (or any, actually) Biblical quotations.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
109. mika2k1:</p>
<p>==</p>
<p>I’ll say it again:</p>
<p>The Roman thieves stole Judea. They killed her people. They killed Jesus’ Jewish identity and heritage. They falsified Jesus’ history, the cause of his murder, turned reality on its head, and blamed “THE JEWS” for their murder.<br />
Nov 1, 2008 &#8211; 6:04 am 110. mika2k1:</p>
<p>Btw, how anyone can read that stupefying Roman propaganda nonsense and not have their brain cell walls cave in on themselves is beyond me. And given by the quotes plastered here, beyond the laws of nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Klein</dc:creator>
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		<description>Richard,  This is an interesting piece. I try not to miss Caroline Glick&#039;s columns in the J. Post. 

I would not call Caroline Glick a &quot;religious Zionist.&quot;  She supports Benjamin Netanyahu over Moshe Feiglin whom I believe is a religious Zionist.   She strikes me as an &quot;ideological Zionist.&quot;  I do not know what Israel will look like if or when religious Zionists are in command positions as Glick seems to believe they will be.  

I do not understand this statement, &quot;Whoever wins, it won&#039;t be &#039;Israel&#039;, unless the word is spelled with qualifiers.&quot;  Right now non-ideological, non-religious, non-Zionist traitors are in the command positions and Israel is Israel without qualifiers, though a very sick Israel in my view.  Why would Israel not be Israel should ideological and religious Zionists be in command positions?  Why the need for qualifiers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,  This is an interesting piece. I try not to miss Caroline Glick&#8217;s columns in the J. Post. </p>
<p>I would not call Caroline Glick a &#8220;religious Zionist.&#8221;  She supports Benjamin Netanyahu over Moshe Feiglin whom I believe is a religious Zionist.   She strikes me as an &#8220;ideological Zionist.&#8221;  I do not know what Israel will look like if or when religious Zionists are in command positions as Glick seems to believe they will be.  </p>
<p>I do not understand this statement, &#8220;Whoever wins, it won&#8217;t be &#8216;Israel&#8217;, unless the word is spelled with qualifiers.&#8221;  Right now non-ideological, non-religious, non-Zionist traitors are in the command positions and Israel is Israel without qualifiers, though a very sick Israel in my view.  Why would Israel not be Israel should ideological and religious Zionists be in command positions?  Why the need for qualifiers?</p>
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