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		<title>By: Ms. Know</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/04/when-we-beguine-the-beguine/comment-page-1/#comment-22202</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the left-wing illuminati grow the class of those on welfare and free healthcare, that way they keep their majority vote because they don&#039;t want to get up and work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the left-wing illuminati grow the class of those on welfare and free healthcare, that way they keep their majority vote because they don&#8217;t want to get up and work.</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/04/when-we-beguine-the-beguine/comment-page-1/#comment-20660</link>
		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you see Philly law enforcement&#039;s requests obeyed, the club wielding Obama supporters complying and even learning (even if it is for the first time?) what democracy is about, there is hope.

 There might even be change in the air..., or maybe not. Too bad those club wielding gents couldn&#039;t have learned in school what an open and fair election entailed, rather than have the Philadelphia PD apply the lessons. While I think Obama may be the real time benefactor of such ignorance, he is not to blame.

“The significant problems that we face today cannot be solved with the same
mentality that created them”. Albert Einstein once observed. However we should be able to agree on what the problem is.
http://www.portstephens.local-e.nsw.gov.au/files/62673/File/SustainableWasteManagement.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you see Philly law enforcement&#8217;s requests obeyed, the club wielding Obama supporters complying and even learning (even if it is for the first time?) what democracy is about, there is hope.</p>
<p> There might even be change in the air&#8230;, or maybe not. Too bad those club wielding gents couldn&#8217;t have learned in school what an open and fair election entailed, rather than have the Philadelphia PD apply the lessons. While I think Obama may be the real time benefactor of such ignorance, he is not to blame.</p>
<p>“The significant problems that we face today cannot be solved with the same<br />
mentality that created them”. Albert Einstein once observed. However we should be able to agree on what the problem is.<br />
<a href="http://www.portstephens.local-e.nsw.gov.au/files/62673/File/SustainableWasteManagement.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.portstephens.local-e.nsw.gov.au/files/62673/File/SustainableWasteManagement.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Subotai Bahadur</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/04/when-we-beguine-the-beguine/comment-page-1/#comment-20649</link>
		<dc:creator>Subotai Bahadur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Analysing this tactically, the Democrats and their allies farther to the Left are in reality not bound by any laws or codes of conduct.  They can lie, cheat, steal, assault, blackmail, and it is only a matter of chance that it is not yet murder. No matter what they do, even if caught they are almost never prosecuted and if they are prosecuted at worst they get a wrist slap.  The Republicans, and those to their right, are not allowed to get away with anything,even specifically legal things.  

The result is that the Left always wins.  This is not a situation that can continue over time.  Either the Right will be wiped out, or hopefully they learn to fight back as effectively. They have to meet and match the actions of the Left.  When the rule of law is moot, the law of the jungle steps in. Right now, the law is moot in reference to the Left.  That may soon be a matter of formal government policy as it already is a matter of party policy.  Someday, Obama&#039;s Black Panthers, or his &quot;Civilian National Defense Corps&quot; will attempt to bully someone who is willing to fight back.  Clubs may be met with clubs, or the continuum of force may jump several magnitudes.  Since our laws about registration, voting, and campaigning will never be enforced equitably, political change will start to be determined by brute force.  You might want to take a look at Germany from 1918-1923 when the political life of the country was played out in armed conflicts between the Freikorps and the various militias of the German Communist Party.  These were actual military engagements involving small arms, automatic weapons, and artillery.  It started out with street fighting and escalated.  When you see Obama&#039;s  supporters armed with clubs and blocking access to polling places, you are seeing the first steps of what may well be a similar process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Analysing this tactically, the Democrats and their allies farther to the Left are in reality not bound by any laws or codes of conduct.  They can lie, cheat, steal, assault, blackmail, and it is only a matter of chance that it is not yet murder. No matter what they do, even if caught they are almost never prosecuted and if they are prosecuted at worst they get a wrist slap.  The Republicans, and those to their right, are not allowed to get away with anything,even specifically legal things.  </p>
<p>The result is that the Left always wins.  This is not a situation that can continue over time.  Either the Right will be wiped out, or hopefully they learn to fight back as effectively. They have to meet and match the actions of the Left.  When the rule of law is moot, the law of the jungle steps in. Right now, the law is moot in reference to the Left.  That may soon be a matter of formal government policy as it already is a matter of party policy.  Someday, Obama&#8217;s Black Panthers, or his &#8220;Civilian National Defense Corps&#8221; will attempt to bully someone who is willing to fight back.  Clubs may be met with clubs, or the continuum of force may jump several magnitudes.  Since our laws about registration, voting, and campaigning will never be enforced equitably, political change will start to be determined by brute force.  You might want to take a look at Germany from 1918-1923 when the political life of the country was played out in armed conflicts between the Freikorps and the various militias of the German Communist Party.  These were actual military engagements involving small arms, automatic weapons, and artillery.  It started out with street fighting and escalated.  When you see Obama&#8217;s  supporters armed with clubs and blocking access to polling places, you are seeing the first steps of what may well be a similar process.</p>
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		<title>By: njartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>njartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aristide
Damn. City Year resembles a paramilitary group and a cult bound into one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aristide<br />
Damn. City Year resembles a paramilitary group and a cult bound into one.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nature of the article still does not excuse the &quot;swarm&quot; approach of killing the messenger. Controlling who has access to a web site, and how they can express themselves is a measure of feedback but not necessarily a means of generating income. I am not sure that the web is sophisticated enough to successfully host an alternative to corporate sponsored network news or even pamphleteers. Note the struggles of Stratfor in selling their wares. Or Townhall in staying afloat. It appears that the only stuff selling well on the net is porn. 

 Show us a little shoulder Richard? nawt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nature of the article still does not excuse the &#8220;swarm&#8221; approach of killing the messenger. Controlling who has access to a web site, and how they can express themselves is a measure of feedback but not necessarily a means of generating income. I am not sure that the web is sophisticated enough to successfully host an alternative to corporate sponsored network news or even pamphleteers. Note the struggles of Stratfor in selling their wares. Or Townhall in staying afloat. It appears that the only stuff selling well on the net is porn. </p>
<p> Show us a little shoulder Richard? nawt.</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The piece by Mr. Tahari printed in the NY Post was a shoddy bit of &quot;journalism&quot; to begin with. Sources not mentioned, quotes not attributed and opinion substituting for fact. I thought I was reading the NYT editorial page. It was in fact an opinion dressed as an analysis pretending to be news. I have not read any statements supporting the allegations of the original piece, but I will admit to hearing statements that support the &quot;spirit&quot; of the article. 

To be honest the gents credentials are questionable . So before giving credence to his complaints I would insist on them being supported by fact, physical evidence and a full police report. With out such verifiable proof, the guy is either barking at the wrong moon, or just barking. I would hold Nir of RS to no greater standards than I would wish to hold Mr. Tahiri to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The piece by Mr. Tahari printed in the NY Post was a shoddy bit of &#8220;journalism&#8221; to begin with. Sources not mentioned, quotes not attributed and opinion substituting for fact. I thought I was reading the NYT editorial page. It was in fact an opinion dressed as an analysis pretending to be news. I have not read any statements supporting the allegations of the original piece, but I will admit to hearing statements that support the &#8220;spirit&#8221; of the article. </p>
<p>To be honest the gents credentials are questionable . So before giving credence to his complaints I would insist on them being supported by fact, physical evidence and a full police report. With out such verifiable proof, the guy is either barking at the wrong moon, or just barking. I would hold Nir of RS to no greater standards than I would wish to hold Mr. Tahiri to.</p>
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		<title>By: Down with the &#8220;Objective&#8221; Media &#171; Beagle Scout</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/04/when-we-beguine-the-beguine/comment-page-1/#comment-20341</link>
		<dc:creator>Down with the &#8220;Objective&#8221; Media &#171; Beagle Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Culture War, Media Bias &#124; Tags: Fairness Doctrine, Journalism, Media, Media Bias &#124; &#160;  A comment from Belmont [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Culture War, Media Bias | Tags: Fairness Doctrine, Journalism, Media, Media Bias | &nbsp;  A comment from Belmont [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This account brought to mind some thoughts I had earlier watching the blatant one sided-ness of the media coverage of the election.

Did the Obama campaign directly or indirectly threaten journalists in some way if they didn&#039;t toe the party line?

Derek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This account brought to mind some thoughts I had earlier watching the blatant one sided-ness of the media coverage of the election.</p>
<p>Did the Obama campaign directly or indirectly threaten journalists in some way if they didn&#8217;t toe the party line?</p>
<p>Derek</p>
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		<title>By: Beaglescout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beaglescout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are Obama&#039;s civilian security corps a new kind of brownshirt or are they Thomas P. M. Barnett&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon%27s_New_Map&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;System Administrator corps&lt;/a&gt; by another name?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are Obama&#8217;s civilian security corps a new kind of brownshirt or are they Thomas P. M. Barnett&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon%27s_New_Map" rel="nofollow">System Administrator corps</a> by another name?</p>
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