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		<title>By: Change You Can Believe In &#171; 36 Chambers - The Legendary Journeys: Execution to the max!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Change You Can Believe In &#171; 36 Chambers - The Legendary Journeys: Execution to the max!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Change you can believe in:  Barack Obama&#8217;s campaign said that anti-Israeli Robert Malley would have nothing to do with Middle Eastern policy in an Obama administration.  Well, that&#8217;s changed.  He&#8217;s going to Egypt and Syria to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Change you can believe in:  Barack Obama&#8217;s campaign said that anti-Israeli Robert Malley would have nothing to do with Middle Eastern policy in an Obama administration.  Well, that&#8217;s changed.  He&#8217;s going to Egypt and Syria to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Belmont Club &#187; The exception and the rule</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belmont Club &#187; The exception and the rule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Robert Malley. Calling Robert Malley. Time asks, &#8220;Was the U.S. Right About Syria Nukes?&#8221; The article [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Robert Malley. Calling Robert Malley. Time asks, &#8220;Was the U.S. Right About Syria Nukes?&#8221; The article [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CPT, Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPT, Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than the wilki info on Malley, try this one on for size...

http://tiny.cc/iRQ2a

The pattern continues...every other stone flipped over on the path our new &#039;dear leader&#039; has walked reveals another commie PoS.

Get set for an ugly, bloody four years...if we&#039;re lucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than the wilki info on Malley, try this one on for size&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://tiny.cc/iRQ2a" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/iRQ2a</a></p>
<p>The pattern continues&#8230;every other stone flipped over on the path our new &#8216;dear leader&#8217; has walked reveals another commie PoS.</p>
<p>Get set for an ugly, bloody four years&#8230;if we&#8217;re lucky.</p>
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		<title>By: cedarford</title>
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		<dc:creator>cedarford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sgi - &lt;i&gt;Contrary to what Cedarford says, Dennis Ross did not agree with their assessment and said so in a letter to the editor.&lt;/i&gt;

The reference to Dennis Ross backing Malley was about a letter Ross signed affirming that Malley&#039;s engagement with Hamas and attempting to understand their perspective - in order to communicate that to various leaders in the West, Israel, the Muslim world was a useful and productive exercise. That Malley had his support. And that of other Jewish and non-Jewish American ME experts that opposed the heavy hand of Israeli right-wingers and their US backers attempting to shut down diplomatic activities.
Of course Ross criticized aspects of Malley&#039;s read of the causes why the 2000 effort failed. Everyone in every faction did. Then said he was dead right about what he said of &quot;others&quot; involved.

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Oh, on invictive. Yes, I have gone on the attack on Fred. I got fed up with him casting himself as a loyal attack dog for right-wing Zionists, as a self-proclaimed &quot;defender of Jews&quot; and his relentless ad hominems accusing anyone who disagreed with his misinformation as &quot;Nazis, jooooo-haters, people who hate God himself&quot;.

Especially since the stupid bastard has been caught in multiple dishonest lies, and at times has favored Zionist interests over American interests.

He brings the nasty, he gets it right back in his face.

When he can civilly debate and not start any post accusing anyone who questions the Likud or power of AIPAC as &quot;anti-Semitic&quot;, Nazi jew-haters or mewing out his clueless &quot;God hates you if you go against the Jews&quot; gibberish..(which evidently encompasses 2/3rds of Israelis and the 80% of US Jews who voted Obama in who can&#039;t stand Republicans or Settler zealots)

...well, then I&#039;ll be civil with him.

For now, I&#039;ll continue to hold him in special contempt as someone who thinks he is a good, loyal lackey-dog for a people that he thinks are &quot;special&quot; and who have a God who is pleased by his subserviance. The same special contempt a Korean or Filipino would feel seeing a citizen declare themselves a loyal lackey of the Yamoto Race and their God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sgi &#8211; <i>Contrary to what Cedarford says, Dennis Ross did not agree with their assessment and said so in a letter to the editor.</i></p>
<p>The reference to Dennis Ross backing Malley was about a letter Ross signed affirming that Malley&#8217;s engagement with Hamas and attempting to understand their perspective &#8211; in order to communicate that to various leaders in the West, Israel, the Muslim world was a useful and productive exercise. That Malley had his support. And that of other Jewish and non-Jewish American ME experts that opposed the heavy hand of Israeli right-wingers and their US backers attempting to shut down diplomatic activities.<br />
Of course Ross criticized aspects of Malley&#8217;s read of the causes why the 2000 effort failed. Everyone in every faction did. Then said he was dead right about what he said of &#8220;others&#8221; involved.</p>
<p>*******************<br />
Oh, on invictive. Yes, I have gone on the attack on Fred. I got fed up with him casting himself as a loyal attack dog for right-wing Zionists, as a self-proclaimed &#8220;defender of Jews&#8221; and his relentless ad hominems accusing anyone who disagreed with his misinformation as &#8220;Nazis, jooooo-haters, people who hate God himself&#8221;.</p>
<p>Especially since the stupid bastard has been caught in multiple dishonest lies, and at times has favored Zionist interests over American interests.</p>
<p>He brings the nasty, he gets it right back in his face.</p>
<p>When he can civilly debate and not start any post accusing anyone who questions the Likud or power of AIPAC as &#8220;anti-Semitic&#8221;, Nazi jew-haters or mewing out his clueless &#8220;God hates you if you go against the Jews&#8221; gibberish..(which evidently encompasses 2/3rds of Israelis and the 80% of US Jews who voted Obama in who can&#8217;t stand Republicans or Settler zealots)</p>
<p>&#8230;well, then I&#8217;ll be civil with him.</p>
<p>For now, I&#8217;ll continue to hold him in special contempt as someone who thinks he is a good, loyal lackey-dog for a people that he thinks are &#8220;special&#8221; and who have a God who is pleased by his subserviance. The same special contempt a Korean or Filipino would feel seeing a citizen declare themselves a loyal lackey of the Yamoto Race and their God.</p>
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		<title>By: maineman</title>
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		<dc:creator>maineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those hoping for any &quot;change&quot; in the One, must contend with the obvious facts that 

1)he has run/been a major part of the most fraudulent presidential campaign in memory, maybe history, 

2)his friends and associates are mostly, or perhaps exclusively, sociopaths, 

3)he only recently renounced his 20-year membership in a racist, Marxist, anti-American cult, 

4)he fought for 2+ years for a doctor&#039;s right to let an infant die in a laundry room, and 

5) was marinated and mentored since an early age in the most dangerous and pernicious ideology known to mankind.

That&#039;s a lot of data and provides convergent validity to the notion that we have just put a sociopath, or worse, a megalomaniac in the most powerful position in the world.

Change will require a St. Paul type moment, not a few disputing facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those hoping for any &#8220;change&#8221; in the One, must contend with the obvious facts that </p>
<p>1)he has run/been a major part of the most fraudulent presidential campaign in memory, maybe history, </p>
<p>2)his friends and associates are mostly, or perhaps exclusively, sociopaths, </p>
<p>3)he only recently renounced his 20-year membership in a racist, Marxist, anti-American cult, </p>
<p>4)he fought for 2+ years for a doctor&#8217;s right to let an infant die in a laundry room, and </p>
<p>5) was marinated and mentored since an early age in the most dangerous and pernicious ideology known to mankind.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot of data and provides convergent validity to the notion that we have just put a sociopath, or worse, a megalomaniac in the most powerful position in the world.</p>
<p>Change will require a St. Paul type moment, not a few disputing facts.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wretchard,

I think the tune we are going to hear is a cacaphony, since the indications are that it&#039;s the spoils system that will largely obtain in his proposed appointments (according to the media rumor mill).

Someone like Malley is so toxic that he would be best handled in a secure lab, at a distance, behind the glass and metal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wretchard,</p>
<p>I think the tune we are going to hear is a cacaphony, since the indications are that it&#8217;s the spoils system that will largely obtain in his proposed appointments (according to the media rumor mill).</p>
<p>Someone like Malley is so toxic that he would be best handled in a secure lab, at a distance, behind the glass and metal.</p>
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		<title>By: steveaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Programmer,
I&#039;ve noticed a change in the writing styles of many commentators at my favorite websites.

C4 is one of them.  I could name another three at least.

Of interest to me, I noticed that the shifters all share a rigid opposition to Republican America.  Which only serves to say that, whatever the reason is for their stylistic shifts, it didn&#039;t spur a similar shift in their editorial bottom-lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Programmer,<br />
I&#8217;ve noticed a change in the writing styles of many commentators at my favorite websites.</p>
<p>C4 is one of them.  I could name another three at least.</p>
<p>Of interest to me, I noticed that the shifters all share a rigid opposition to Republican America.  Which only serves to say that, whatever the reason is for their stylistic shifts, it didn&#8217;t spur a similar shift in their editorial bottom-lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Unsk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unsk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steveaz: Actually I would  have more confidence in Obama if he did have a &quot;deer in the headlights&quot; look. I don&#039;t see it. I  still see the ice cold glare from the One. 

In the first few days after the election he has shown no  signs he takes the  enormous responsibilities of the Presidency seriously. When he:

• sends nutjob Robert Malley to apologize to the Syrians

• still says that “His position is as it was throughout the campaign, that he supports deploying a missile defence system when the technology is proved to be workable.”

• still is against a free trade agreement with Columbia because of some phony union harassment complaints

he can&#039;t be serious. 

Obama is still spewing out his line of crap like he believes it. Anyone serious  about dealing with the threats mounting against America would change his tune from populist campaign rhetoric to careful comment. He hasn&#039;t.

The jury is still out on whether the guy really wants to protect America, her citizens and her interests in the faithful conduct of his office or whether he really just wants to take America down several notches. So far the evidence is not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steveaz: Actually I would  have more confidence in Obama if he did have a &#8220;deer in the headlights&#8221; look. I don&#8217;t see it. I  still see the ice cold glare from the One. </p>
<p>In the first few days after the election he has shown no  signs he takes the  enormous responsibilities of the Presidency seriously. When he:</p>
<p>• sends nutjob Robert Malley to apologize to the Syrians</p>
<p>• still says that “His position is as it was throughout the campaign, that he supports deploying a missile defence system when the technology is proved to be workable.”</p>
<p>• still is against a free trade agreement with Columbia because of some phony union harassment complaints</p>
<p>he can&#8217;t be serious. </p>
<p>Obama is still spewing out his line of crap like he believes it. Anyone serious  about dealing with the threats mounting against America would change his tune from populist campaign rhetoric to careful comment. He hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The jury is still out on whether the guy really wants to protect America, her citizens and her interests in the faithful conduct of his office or whether he really just wants to take America down several notches. So far the evidence is not good.</p>
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		<title>By: programmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>programmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Cedarford&#039;s identity been hijacked?  I have always viewed his posts as thought provoking even if I did not agree with some or at times, even most, of his underlying theses.  However, of late there seems to be an entirely different Cedarford commenting.  A  lot less thought and a lot more invective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Cedarford&#8217;s identity been hijacked?  I have always viewed his posts as thought provoking even if I did not agree with some or at times, even most, of his underlying theses.  However, of late there seems to be an entirely different Cedarford commenting.  A  lot less thought and a lot more invective.</p>
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		<title>By: steveaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22, Ledger,
Last week, after getting his first intelligence briefing, Obama had the look on his face of someone who has just seen a ghost.

If you run with Lefty, anti-American crowds you&#039;ll get used to aping all sorts of nonsense, like the trope about the CIA planting AIDS in &#039;black&#039; communities.  And you can live your whole life believing these cants, and without ever hearing them rebutted. 

The problem arises when you win a major election and find yourself in the cockpit of the country you&#039;ve been told to hate.  Then, as you gain real institutional knowledge, you learn that everything your comrades maintained about your country was wrong, and that the stew of lies is so greasy and has been so thickly applied that it&#039;ll take years of mental scrubbing to set your compadres straight.  

All this pales, too, when it is compared to the pain of realizing that your mentors have misinformed you about America, and that you, too, have been lying - to your own wife, under-writers and voters.

Get used to the &quot;deer in the headlights&quot; look on Obama&#039;s face.  After being gracefully received by George and Laura at the WH last week, he and Michelle were forced to forget that &quot;Bush is Hitler&quot; and to treat with our current President as he hopes we will treat with him:  as regular Americans, not as &quot;typical [pick color] folks.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22, Ledger,<br />
Last week, after getting his first intelligence briefing, Obama had the look on his face of someone who has just seen a ghost.</p>
<p>If you run with Lefty, anti-American crowds you&#8217;ll get used to aping all sorts of nonsense, like the trope about the CIA planting AIDS in &#8216;black&#8217; communities.  And you can live your whole life believing these cants, and without ever hearing them rebutted. </p>
<p>The problem arises when you win a major election and find yourself in the cockpit of the country you&#8217;ve been told to hate.  Then, as you gain real institutional knowledge, you learn that everything your comrades maintained about your country was wrong, and that the stew of lies is so greasy and has been so thickly applied that it&#8217;ll take years of mental scrubbing to set your compadres straight.  </p>
<p>All this pales, too, when it is compared to the pain of realizing that your mentors have misinformed you about America, and that you, too, have been lying &#8211; to your own wife, under-writers and voters.</p>
<p>Get used to the &#8220;deer in the headlights&#8221; look on Obama&#8217;s face.  After being gracefully received by George and Laura at the WH last week, he and Michelle were forced to forget that &#8220;Bush is Hitler&#8221; and to treat with our current President as he hopes we will treat with him:  as regular Americans, not as &#8220;typical [pick color] folks.&#8221;</p>
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