Win and the world laughs with you. Lose and they kick you while you’re down. From the Politico.
The Federal Election Commission is unlikely to conduct a potentially embarrassing audit of how Barack Obama raised and spent his presidential campaign’s record-shattering windfall, despite allegations of questionable donations and accounting that had the McCain campaign crying foul.
Adding insult to injury for Republicans: The FEC is obligated to complete a rigorous audit of McCain’s campaign coffers, which will take months, if not years, and cost McCain millions of dollars to defend.
Obama is expected to escape that level of scrutiny mostly because he declined an $84 million public grant for his campaign that automatically triggers an audit and because the sheer volume of cash he raised and spent minimizes the significance of his errors. Another factor: The FEC, which would have to vote to launch an audit, is prone to deadlocking on issues that inordinately impact one party or the other – like approving a messy and high-profile probe of a sitting president.
Maybe the real object of pity here should be the idea of government funded campaigning. After all, McCain is political history and will soon recede into the past. But the idea that bad money could be kept out of elections by government funding has proved, if Obama’s campaign escapes scrutiny while McCain is put under the lens, to have no future. The incentives to follow the McCain funding model, rather than the disable-your-creditcard-checks model, are nil.
Politics is creative in that it permits a society to express preferences with wide latitude. But it is also creative in that it sets precedent, tone and usage. What can create can also destroy. The legacy of the election of 2008 will be more than Barack Obama. It will also include the outright partisanship of the press, the less than satisfactory voting processes and now campaign funding reform failure. That’s what has been given to the future. And problem with the future, as the psychic Criswell once observed, is that it is the place where most of us — and our children — are going to live.





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1. Pascal:and cost McCain millions of dollars to defend.
Nov 12, 2008 - 1:19 am 2. Ledger:I hate to say it but Politico is in the tank with Obama.
I read the piece as and insulting and softening strike to Republicans. Here are the main points:
1. McCain is stupid and should be punished.
Nov 12, 2008 - 2:11 am 3. Doug:2. Obama is smart and can get away with anything.
3. Get used to it losers!
I agree about Politico, Ledger, have had that opinion almost from the start:
Just because they’re out of the MSM on their own didn’t change a thing, and the more popular the site becomes, the worse they get.
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On a nicer note, for Veterans Day:
– God Bless America –
Nov 12, 2008 - 3:09 am 4. Doug:Celine Dion sings “God Bless America” aboard the USS Harry S. Truman
Confirmed – It Looks Like Obama Just Got Away With Largest Election Donations Fraud in History
Nov 12, 2008 - 3:12 am 5. Doug:Gateway Pundit
American Elections Used to be Like Oklahoma’s
RUSH:
You know, we need to look at Oklahoma. Did you see the election returns out of Oklahoma?
“McCain got 65.6 percent of the vote in Oklahoma, the highest state percentage for him in the country, even though Democrats hold an edge in voter registration by about 300,000 votes. The GOP candidate swept all 77 counties, repeating George Bush’s feat four years ago against John Kerry. No Democrat has won a presidential race here since Lyndon Johnson’s landslide in 1964.” When I saw this, I said, “Now, what’s different about Oklahoma other than the people that live there, what’s different?”
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So I looked it up, folks, and here is what I found out.
You could not register and vote on the same day in Oklahoma.
Voter registration ends 25 days before Election Day.
You can visit your county election board or mail in the form.
Deadline is Friday, October 10th to mail in your vote.
An ID was required to vote.
When you register to vote in Oklahoma, you’ll receive a voter ID card from the election official. You need to bring that card with you, your voter ID card when you go to vote.
If you lose or misplace your ID card you get a new one by contacting the county elections official.
Cards are not issued during the 24 days before the election. They did have early voting in Oklahoma on the Friday before the election; not 30 days before; not 25 days before.
They had early voting on the Friday before, Friday, Saturday, and Monday early voting from eight a.m. to six p.m.
Nov 12, 2008 - 3:21 am 6. David Thomson:Now, it sounds like Oklahoma has elections the way the whole country used to have elections.
No early voting, you had to have an ID, no registering and voting on the same day.
“Confirmed – It Looks Like Obama Just Got Away With Largest Election Donations Fraud in History”
The Federal Election Commission may be unable to investigate the obvious fraud of the Barack Obama campaign. But what is preventing the U.S. Justice Department from performing its duty? We cannot afford allowing Obama’s people to get away with their criminal activity. The very integrity of our elections is at stake.
Nov 12, 2008 - 3:48 am 7. Gary Ogletree:This has to be stopped now or it will just get worse. Where are the lawyers when you need them?
Nov 12, 2008 - 4:42 am 8. Willy:Give it up with your calls for investigations. Even if one were to occur, we would not get results before Jan. 20. After that any investigation would be droped. Unless we get an Independent Investegator assigned, which is not going to happen. The Bush Admin. is all about smooth transition and “being above it all”. They do not want to ruffle feathers. Beyond that, Bush Admin agrees with many of Obama’s policies and is and has been at the service of globalist / international socialist ideals for the last 8 years. Das Vidania
Nov 12, 2008 - 4:56 am 9. Mike Sylwester:Is Das Vidania the German translation of Do Svidania?
Nov 12, 2008 - 5:31 am 10. wildernesscalling:It would trigger something nobody is prepared to have, ether a popular recount demand which would simmer the masses becuase the Dem’s would stall and rigg which most likely lead to a very big civil unrest to outright civil war which if the Dem’s do not do will end the same way. So I say Bush no longer has the gonades for truth and justice here so yes there will be nothing done and it will be quickly swept under the rug and competely ignored by the MSM and that includes just quick lip service from FOX!
Nov 12, 2008 - 5:38 am 11. hdgreene:Campaign finance laws were passed to make it more difficult for Republicans to raise money and were never meant to apply to Democrats, as the Clinton Money Scandals proved. Republicans tolerate these laws because they serve to protect incumbents from insurgent challengers. If the insurgent has to spend their first $100,000 on lawyers and consultants (before they fund raise)they’ll be less inclined to run. If you are going to disarm your credit card screening device you want to do so on the very best legal advice.
FEC’s job is to protect incumbents, not prosecute them. McCain can handle going through the wringer. Could a real Maverick afford it?
Nov 12, 2008 - 5:54 am 12. enscout:It’s been said that ‘In a society where law enforcement is REQUIRED to maintain civil obedience, then it is to fail’…or some varient.
My point is that it is each citizen’s responsibility to try to act within the law. Now here is a man who has reached, arguably, the most powerful position on the planet. This man and his minions have no regard for the framework of our Constitution, the processes that make this country successful on all levels nor for the rule of law that is designed to protect its’ citizenry.
Expect chaos.
Nov 12, 2008 - 6:01 am 13. Don:Instead of making laws for people to get around and bureaucracies that are morbid in execution, just accept the way people behave [like obeying the 55 mile per hour speed limit] and adjust from that point. Eliminate the limits on donations. However, all donations for federal elections must go through a central clearing operation of the federal government which will levy a 7 to 10 percent charge for administration. All donations must be traceable and identifiable as to the donor with penalties of 10 years and a million dollars for any fraud or attempts to fund by any other means. Any funds found non-traceable or unidentifiable are forfeited to the election administration.
Nov 12, 2008 - 6:21 am 14. RWE:“…Obama’s campaign escapes scrutiny while McCain is put under the lens…”
This is the kind of logic that emanates from Washington D.C. Back in the 80’s, when a series of highly publicized spy scandals broke, the denizens of D.C. came up with the answer: Eliminate a standard across-the-board percentage of security clearances! If people who had security clearances were selling secrets to the Soviets, then, obviously, they were the problem. Get rid of some of them and the problem would be reduced.
Uh huh. So having more uncleared people in places where they have access to classified info and that will make things better. When they told this to our Colonel his response was “So you want me to eliminate 10% of our security clearances? Then you are asking me to reduce our number of personnel by 10%.”
And an investigation of Obama’s sources and methods MUST be done. But it has to be done by a private source. It must be done not to overturn the election and because:
1. It’s gonna be a cracking good story; the book will be a bestseller. I suggest “The Audacity of Criminality” as a title.
Nov 12, 2008 - 6:26 am 15. Peter Boston:2. On top of all the other screwups that have already started it will help discredit the Obama Administration. The Left kept up a drumbeat during the Bush Admin; we need to start our own.
3. It might, just might, get some people sent to jail and almost certainly cause some of Obama’s D.C. apparachniks to resign in disgrace.
4. Remember Scooter Libby!
The credit card security checks were removed from Obama’s web site so that the source of the money could not be traced. There is no other reason why that would have happened.
Obama and his comrades did it because they knew they would get away with it. How much did Hamas contribute to Obama? We’ll never know but I would bet it was tens of millions if not more.
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. The Dems and their fellow travelers in the MSM have already well down the road framing conservatives and Christians as intolerable and evil. That will be the cover for the Orwellian Fairness Doctrine and whacking churches tax exempt status.
We are no longer citizens, but subjects, and the fun is only just beginning.
Nov 12, 2008 - 6:37 am 16. Wadeusaf:There is no honor in this kind of political shenanigans, only a dishonorable power craving individual supported by power craving and unchecked by moral or social conscious would so blatantly allow this level of sophmoric behavior.
What we are observing is the Democrat version of Richard Nixon, sans any diplomatic savvy. All of the worst, none of the best. His silence and that of his campaign is deafening.
Who authorized the investigation of Al Gore’s cash drop from the Monks? Oh right a republican congress.
Nov 12, 2008 - 6:41 am 17. programmer:Why is the amount of money raised an indicator of success in an election? Votes cannot be bought or more to the point, with a secret ballot, they cannot be gauranteed to stay bought. So what is the money so effectively used for? It seems to me the real answer is not regulation and prosecution of variance from regulation, but determining what is the underlying reason for the apparent truism that “the most money equals electoral success” and applying countermeasures, if possible, with less money and more smarts.
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:27 am 18. mika2k1:The media is bought. The politicians are bought. The political system is bought. The policing agencies are bought. The judges are bought. The law itself is bought. The corruption is so pervasive in the US, it’s become Orwellian. You’ve become Rome.
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:34 am 19. NahnCee:“Why is the amount of money raised an indicator of success in an election?”
Advertising. The steady dripdripdrip of Obama ads in newspapers, on TV and on the radio with absolutely no reply by McCain makes McCain seem ghostly and ineffectual. Obama was both begging for money and advertising like crazy right up until the day of the election.
And, BTW, if ACORN was buying voter registrations why is it so difficult to believe that they wouldn’t also slip their poor black clientele $50 each to vote for their man?
Why do you think Saudi Arabia is always so smug about how they conduct their barbaric affairs? Because they *KNOW* with sure and simple certainty that with enough money, they can make anything go away or, conversely, happen that they want to happen.
Which is why I think millions in those illegal donations to B. Hussein came from Saudi Arabia. The question then becomes whether or not BHO knew what was going on, and allowed it to continue. My feeling is that given his own smug attitude. he knew exactly what he and his donors were doing and had caught the smugness from the Bedouins who bought him.
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:37 am 20. newtland:I find I actually agree with mika2k1 on something.
We need our own George Soros. Now. If we roll over on this obvious voting and donor fraud, we’re ceding the country to a fully-formed nomenklatura that will rule until a second American revolution.
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:46 am 21. gumshoe:humor needed?:
enjoy…
“The Onion: International Con Man Barack Obama Leaves US with $85 Million in Campaign Fundraising”
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/international_con_man_barack_obama
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:46 am 22. jerryofva:I feel a certain amount of sangfroid over the apparent escape of the Obama campaign from the restrictions imposed by McCain-Feingold. If I have one overriding reason to dislike McCain it is his zeal to restrict political speech. He was victimized by his own antipathy toward the First Amendment.
The simple solution to campaign finance irregularities is transparency. All donations should be registered with the FEC within 48 hours of donation and it should apply to all donations not just those over $200. The use of the Internet and credit cards should be banned. If you contribute to a campaign then it should be by a traceable financial instrument signed by the donor.
The one positive effect of electing Obama is the stake that he drove through the heart of McCain-Feingold. I there needs to be an investigation into illegal donations and appropriate prosecutions be made. I think Obama knew but as someone brought up in the corrupt world of Chicago politics also knew how to keep his hands clean. Until shown otherwise, I believe that his campaign finance money laundering scheme was just scam to help his buddies in Chicago profit a little from the election. That’s the Chicago way. It is tempting to appoint a special prosecutor to look into this but I am against giving unlimited authority to someone who almost always goes rogue and becomes a law onto himself. Perhaps it is best to let the Obama campaign get away with this because it kills McCain-Feingold forever.
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:59 am 23. mika2k1:We need our own George Soros.
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And that will improve Cable TV programming?
Nov 12, 2008 - 8:14 am 24. Aristide:McCain-Feingold… hoisted by one’s own petard!
Nov 12, 2008 - 8:15 am 25. njartist:@ wadeusaf
“What we are observing is the Democrat version of Richard Nixon….”
No, we are not witnessing any such thing. I was in college at that time and actively involved in the right’s counter movement to SDS: Nixon was loyal to the constitution; his “corrupt” behavior was much less than LBJ or JFK.
Nov 12, 2008 - 8:22 am 26. Aristide:Obamatron?
Nov 12, 2008 - 8:22 am 27. El Jefe Maximo:This all seems very…Roman, as in late Roman Republic. Obama possibly bought and paid for; the losers kicked while they’re down; the media corrupt; rigged ballots; bribery okay…as long as its done in the right way; foreigners wanting to influence the elections because Rome’s the only game in town. All this would have been recognizable to Cicero, Caesar, Sulla, Cato, et al.
Thing is, it didn’t last in Rome. Too many cooks got the soup too stirred up and eventually, after lots of broken crockery, things were settled in ways that many no doubt found unappealing. So I wonder if this will happen here, or rather, HOW it will happen here?
Obama’s not the end of the story. He and his friends can fool themselves into thinking so, for the moment, but there’s always a next chapter. Okay, we have a partisan press, campaign finance failure, screwed up voting, outsiders in the game. Others will learn to play too. There’s really going to be a hell of a pileup. Hope it’s not like those Cicero and crew got.
Nov 12, 2008 - 8:27 am 28. Doug:Nahncee:
Any intelligent person that lived in Hyde Park as long as The Messiah has, and rose to this level via the Chicago Machine, indisputably knows exactly what he and his donors were doing.
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NEA Talks Out Of Both Sides Of Its Mouth
Mike at EIA (see blogroll) nails it perfectly:
NEA President Dennis Van Roekel lauded the victories. “NEA members played a vital role in critical congressional races across the country that helped expand margins in the House and Senate for pro-public education allies,” he said in a press statement. “As a bipartisan organization, the National Education Association was pleased to return many friends from both sides of the aisle to Congress and elect new ones as a part of a growing Democratic majority.”
Aside: If you parse that last sentence, you get NEA “as a bipartisan organization” being pleased about “a growing Democratic majority.”
I might be able to have the slightest respect for them if they could be honest once in awhile.
Nov 12, 2008 - 8:37 am 29. Doug:“ Perhaps it is best to let the Obama campaign get away with this because it kills McCain-Feingold forever.”
Nov 12, 2008 - 8:50 am 30. Doug:—
Reminds me of the perennial GOP promise that the legislators would start voting and behaving like principled conservatives *after* the next election when their majorities would be greater.
ie, by what mechanism will any law that benefits Democrats EVER be rectified?
Nov 12, 2008 - 8:53 am 31. Mark:Perhaps the GOP will get a smart legal team to clarify the terms of credit card contributions. “Is it legal, in the future, to turn off safeguards?” etc. The actions of the Obama team should receive a reducio ad absurdum treatment that may succeed in communicating to the public the audaciousness of the Obama team’s violation of public trust.
Nov 12, 2008 - 8:58 am 32. programmer:Nahncee ponders:
And, BTW, if ACORN was buying voter registrations why is it so difficult to believe that they wouldn’t also slip their poor black clientele $50 each to vote for their man?
programmer piles on:
I have to admit that is a thought that has occurred to me also. It’s why I qualified my question about staying bought, lest I be accused of being naive. I guess, in a way, that if this occurring on a large scale, it is kind of like a stimulus package for the package stores, nich wahr?
Nov 12, 2008 - 9:05 am 33. Alexis:mika:
I hope you realize that by repeatedly calling the United States of America “Rome”, you are effectively declaring the United States of America to be the principal enemy of the Jewish people. You also insist that the United States use nuclear weapons to wipe out millions of Muslims while also dismantling the bulk of the American military, which would leave the American people vulnerable to outside aggression. But none of that seems to matter to you. If your worldview were truly shared by the majority of Israelis, the United States would be fully justified in pulling the plug on all military, diplomatic, and financial support for the State of Israel.
You may think you are helping matters, but your remarks actually promote an anti-Israeli agenda by seeking to deprive the State of Israel of any allies it has left in the world. You need to keep in mind what you are actually trying to accomplish.
Nov 12, 2008 - 9:10 am 34. mikes:One thing Obama has done (good or bad, I don’t know) is do away with individual campaign donation limits. I could easily write a program that goes into his site every 10 minutes and donates $199 under a new name until it meets whatever limit I my have set ($100,000?). I have little doubt this has already happened and will again in the future as ALL campaigns disable credit card protections on their web donation sites.
Nov 12, 2008 - 9:14 am 35. programmer:Errata to above:
if this occuring => if this is occuring
nich wahr => nicht wahr
As long as I am chewing up band width correcting my previous comment, let me give my excuse for sloppy typing. I was up late last night. The elementary school (in one of the larger Oklahoma cities), had a “Thank the Veterans” night and my youngest grandchild (and his mother, my daughter) strong armed me into going. I usually avoid these affairs for a multitude of reasons, but two pairs of vivid blue eyes and moppets of hair very similar in color to what mine used to be was too much to resist. I am glad I went. Guys, all politics aside, American kids are great. It was worth it. The main speaker, a Marine vet, as the the kids ended up the program with a song, “Thank a Vet”, turned to me with tears in his eyes and said, “There is the reason.” I’m afraid I embarrassed my family a tad when I responded with an extremely heart felt “OOOOORRAAHHHHH”.
Nov 12, 2008 - 9:19 am 36. Zim:This doesn’t remind me of Rome as much as it does the DUNE books. If I remember correctly the smaller Houses (Langsrand?) did have the ability, if worse came to worse, to combine and defeat the King and his men.
As long as we are able to defend ourselves, there will be some measure of rules that the creeps and thugs in DC follow. If we allow them to disarm us, then yes, we will be nothing but subjects and this will be Rome.
Nov 12, 2008 - 9:39 am 37. Ken Nelson:Any Republican use of the tactic will be punished severely by the highly loyal Obama DoJ.
Nov 12, 2008 - 10:01 am 38. Let the DoJ do it:[...] be challenged by the FEC. Maybe that is true. But laws were broken, by many people. It would be a fitting end if the Bush Adminstration Department of Justice investigated all of them. Wouldn’t it also be nice if all of Obama’s campaign staff had to defend hire expensive [...]
Nov 12, 2008 - 10:01 am 39. mika2k1:Alexis,
You are totally clueless. The International Energy Agency’s (IEA) forthcoming report forecasts global oil depletion to be 9.1% in 2009.
I advise to leave EVERYTHING in Iraq to the Kurds and get out. Pack up, while the packing can still be done. Close all the bases abroad and bring everything home, before you’re forced to abandon it.
The clock is ticking. And it’s ticking faster and faster.
Nov 12, 2008 - 10:07 am 40. ledger:Doug, I concur. Politico is biased.
Nov 12, 2008 - 10:22 am 41. Alexis:mika:
I advise to leave EVERYTHING in Iraq to the Kurds and get out. Pack up, while the packing can still be done. Close all the bases abroad and bring everything home, before you’re forced to abandon it.
The clock is ticking. And it’s ticking faster and faster.
Is your name Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by any chance? He would be saying exactly the same words as you are. Your statements on the Belmont Club are practically identical to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s political agenda.
You say the words “New Rome”, but your clear interpretation of that phrase leaves little doubt that the effective meaning of “New Rome” is identical to Ayatollah Khomeini’s utterance “Great Satan”. You seek to dismantle the American military. So does Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. You seek to overthrow the American Constitution. So does Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. You seek a nuclear holocaust. So does Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
I have yet to read anything you have written at the Belmont Club that doesn’t promote the agenda of the Iranian government.
Nov 12, 2008 - 10:43 am 42. Alexis:Close all the bases abroad and bring everything home, before you’re forced to abandon it.
BY YOU AND WHAT ARMY??? Moqtada as-Sadr, perhaps?
Nov 12, 2008 - 10:44 am 43. mika2k1:Is your name Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by any chance?
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LOL. Yeah, that’s it. If I’m not a transnational oil mafiosi or some other transnational corporate fascist parroting their thieving corporate propaganda, I must be muhmud jihad. Yeah, that’s it.
Nov 12, 2008 - 10:56 am 44. mika2k1:BY YOU AND WHAT ARMY???
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It’s a simple question of logistics and money, Alexis. The luxury of which you’re likely will not be able to afford in the near future.
Nov 12, 2008 - 10:59 am 45. mika2k1:How much longer do you think the printing of more dollars racket is going to last, Alexis? China will soon be decoupling its economy from the US dollar. China will not be alone.
Nov 12, 2008 - 11:05 am 46. Cosmeau Bugleweed:So interesting to read the comments about the U.S. election irregularities/fraud on the left side of the line.
In the second referendum on Quebec secession in 1995 the left/secessionists, who were in power, organized a huge fraud in all the areas likely to vote against secession.
The procedural details of the fraud are tedious and need not be repeated here, but they were typical of the clever and devious tactics of the American left which are discussed in the comments.
The fraud got the secessionists just over 49% of the vote, and they’ll be back.
I am always surprised at the amiable blindness of Americans toward Canada. We are just like the U.S. only much further down the road of cultural disintegration.
We’re not Mexico, we’re not a third world failed state, yet, except perhaps for Quebec,(an eleventh generation Quebecer, I’m allowed to say that, as I understand Black Americans are permitted the “N” word.)
In previous comments I pointed out some amusing/horrifying aspects of Canadian government health care and the Canadian Supreme Court going so far left as to provide a devious procedure for the breakup of the country.
Note the repeated use of “devious”. Live in a French milieu with a French mindset all your life, practise law for 30 years in both languages, you get to know about devious.
I love the U.S. and the generous, brave, naive Americans, but they don’t know devious. President Clinton knew: “depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is …” but the Americans did not learn from him
Many of the comments above suggest mild surprise and dismay at the left’s tactics in the U.S. election. Why?
If Americans wish to see their likely future, they need only look north, and tremble.
Cosmeau Bugleweed
Nov 12, 2008 - 11:12 am 47. mika2k1:Dollars to donuts the contribution of Muslims to Obama is absolutely crushed, dwarfed by the money and clout of Progressive Jews that poured into the Obama coffers.
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LOL. C$, you forget to take into account that Saud also bought “THE JEWS”.
Nov 12, 2008 - 11:18 am 48. Eggplant:El Jefe Maximo said:
“This all seems very…Roman, as in late Roman Republic.”
Extreme debt issues and debt relief were important aspects in the collapse of the Roman Republic. Roman demagogues often used debt forgiveness as a political tool. I own a Roman denarius that made this specific political point.
mika2k1 said:
“China will soon be decoupling its economy from the US dollar. China will not be alone.”
It occurs to me that the situation with China is going to become very “interesting” in the near future.
China’s economy had been mainly based upon selling manufactured goods to US consumers. That market is disappearing. Soon the Chinese are going to have considerable manufacturing capability laying idle. Most manufacturing technology is “dual use”, e.g. an automobile factory can be readily converted into a tank factory, etc. How would China finance the transformation of its manufacturing base over to weapons production? Answer: They’ll cash in their American debt (supposably it’s worth about $1.4 trillion). The US will end up unwillingly financing China’s new armament program. The US will not have the option of renouncing the debt because it would sink our credit worthness to CCC and plunge the US dollar to near worthless value (our import energy costs would become lethal). In a short period of time, China’s military capability could grow by an order-of-magnitude armed with state-of-the-art weapons (through successful espionage, China already knows most of our nuclear weapon’s technology).
Why would China seek creating a military empire?
1) Jobs creation. China will soon face a huge unemployment problem due to the world economic crisis. A major rearmament and militarization program would keep China’s population fully employed (Hitler used this same strategy with extreme initial success).
2) China is poor in natural resources. Siberia, Australia and Africa are rich in natural resources. China is insular bordering on xenophobic. Normally China would prefer to purchase foreign natural resources through the market place. However with the failure of the market place, China will be compelled to seize foreign natural resources through military means.
The fig leaf or casus belli for the establishment of a Chinese Empire will be misbehavior in the Middle East. The Iranians will do something stupid or Israel will engage in nuclear preemption thus compromising the Persian Gulf oil supply and significantly augmenting the world economic crisis. The loss of Persian Gulf oil will threaten China’s economy. The US under Obama’s presidency will sit by impotently while this occurs. China will realize (correctly) that the US has fallen under the control of fools and poltroons thus creating a power vacuum. China will then fill this power vacuum with their newly rearmed military capability. The United States will be unable to respond because of our economic difficulty, the self-destruction of our manufacturing capability and lack of strategic resources such as petroleum, iron ore, etc.
China is on the verge of strategic breakthrough and I don’t see anyway of stopping it.
Nov 12, 2008 - 11:54 am 49. Alexis:See a certain storyline: “America is controlled by the Jews and the Jews are controlled by the Saudis. America must dismantle its military because its economy will soon be destroyed. America must leave all foreign military bases, especially the ones that would then come under Iranian control. Americans must get rid of its Constitution and let everybody live in anarchy. The clock is ticking.”
Guess who would benefit from implementing such demands. The obvious answer is Iran.
Nov 12, 2008 - 12:07 pm 50. goesh:I like the previous comments about China. 50 yrs ago they were essentially a peasant economy and now they are in outer space. Why wouldn’t they soon be the worlds only real super power?
Nov 12, 2008 - 12:11 pm 51. Unsk:For those of you thinking the Bush DoJ will investigate Obama- forgetaboutit!~ Not going to happen -ever.
The Bush DoJ has been in the tank for the Dems from day one. Think of the Scooter Libby railroad job, and then ask yourself why is Congressman William Jefferson still walking around – what is it – three years since the FBI found a load of cash in his refrigerator.
Until the Pubs get some spine, we will no longer be a nation under the rule of law. Obama will go through the motions and appearances of enforcing and obeying the law when it is convenient. But when it is not- look out.
Nov 12, 2008 - 12:43 pm 52. Cosmeau Bugleweed:Re: comment 45 above;
La langue anglaise she not my langue maternelle (dis mean mudder tongue for American guy).
I make big mistake, une grosse erreur; I say “devious” what is bad English word I don’ hunnerstan too good.
I don’ mean say “devious”; I really really, vraiement mean say “subtile” or “nuance”, des bons mots francais, not “devious”. Never, never “devious”, jamais.
I hapologize ten tousand times; I don’ wan’ go en prison. I don’ like les manacles any more. (Dis mean handcuff.)
Da freedom of da speech is American concep’.
We don’ got dat hup in da nort. Don’ need dat stuff.
Nex’ time I vote for le Quebec libre and contre le racism institutionel des canadiens anglais
Au revoir & Bye-bye.
Cosmeau Mauvaiseherbe deBugle
P.S.
Snap quiz:
“We will stun you with our ingratitude.”
Who said it? When?
Does it in any way relate to what was done to the naive and foolish right in the U.S. election?
Where is Iraq, anyway?
Nov 12, 2008 - 1:43 pm 53. Derek:goesh: internal cohesion.
Have you seen the Chinese, in recent history, deal with a real problem?
I’ll hold my bets on China until after seeing them weather the current economic malaise.
Derek
Nov 12, 2008 - 1:53 pm 54. Maurice:CedarShmuck, so Progressive Jews poured in all those contributions to the One. THAT so well explains why Hamas and Ahmadinejad and all the rest of Israel’s friends feel so good about Obama. Hamas, in your worldview, must be controlled by those damn Jewish Progressives! And there are hundreds and thousands of Jewish progressives all over the world, just waiting to control YOU and everyone else, via the ONE; in fact, all those thousands of non-traceable Obama contributions via credit cards could only have come, I guess, from those millions of Progressive Jews scattered throughout America and the world.
Damn clever, those Progressive Jews.
Yes, it is true that Progressive Jews voted overwhelmingly for Obama, and as a Jew, I was pretty pissed about it, but the canard about Jews controlling everything is the usual Protocols-of-the-Elders-of-Zion bullshit.
Gets old. Go piss up a rope.
Nov 12, 2008 - 2:02 pm 55. slade:Real super powers don’t have pegged currencies.
China is still growing. I’ll let others assign an age to her capitalist markets.
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Nov 12, 2008 - 4:03 pm 57. bogie wheel:Okay, so let’s say nobody in the halls of officialdom (FEC, DOJ, Congress [*snarf!*], media [*double snarf!*],GOP) is going to do anything about this.
What can be done, period?
Is there still any chance of an electronic trail or database?
According to Newsmax in an article on October 21st, Obama’s campaign hired the company Chase Paymentech to process its online transactions.
Wouldn’t Chase Paymentech presumably have a record of the #s of the credit cards that were used? Can those records be gotten hold of?
I’m neither a lawyer nor a programmer who would understand how such a database would work.
Thoughts, anyone?
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:30 pm 58. Wadeusaf:njartist:
@ wadeusaf
“What we are observing is the Democrat version of Richard Nixon….”
No, we are not witnessing any such thing. I was in college at that time and actively involved in the right’s counter movement to SDS: Nixon was loyal to the constitution; his “corrupt” behavior was much less than LBJ or JFK.
Nov 12, 2008 – 8:22 am
On reflection, I agree with you.
It is the dirty campaign tricks mentality I was referring to which allowed a break in to occur, that also allows this disconnect of security measures which would reject the kinds of fraudulent donations. Neither are in and of themselves assaults on the Constitution as much as they are indicative of a perception of being above certain of our laws.
It is an attitude which must not go unrewarded, it is an attitude which ought to be rejected by the President elect as well as by the Democrat Party. The fact that they are not is telling.
Nov 12, 2008 - 10:20 pm 59. tomw:59. Wadeusaf:It is an attitude which must not go unrewarded, it is an attitude which ought to be rejected by the President elect as well as by the Democrat Party. The fact that they are not is telling.
Nov 13, 2008 - 2:25 pm….
But, but, but – this is going to be the most transparent administration in HISTORY!!, so, obviously there must have been a misunderstanding. The verification mechanisms were turned off by mistake! We didn’t mean it! /sarc
If the One cannot at least ACT outraged at his minions chicanery, it also is telling.
tom
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