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		<title>By: tomw</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/11/to-the-victor-the-spoils/comment-page-2/#comment-21928</link>
		<dc:creator>tomw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>59. Wadeusaf:It is an attitude which must not go unrewarded, it is an attitude which ought to be rejected by the President elect as well as by the Democrat Party. The fact that they are not is telling.
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 But, but, but - this is going to be the most transparent administration in HISTORY!!, so, obviously there must have been a misunderstanding.  The verification mechanisms were turned off by mistake!  We didn&#039;t mean it! /sarc
 If the One cannot at least ACT outraged at his minions chicanery, it also is telling.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>59. Wadeusaf:It is an attitude which must not go unrewarded, it is an attitude which ought to be rejected by the President elect as well as by the Democrat Party. The fact that they are not is telling.<br />
&#8230;.<br />
 But, but, but &#8211; this is going to be the most transparent administration in HISTORY!!, so, obviously there must have been a misunderstanding.  The verification mechanisms were turned off by mistake!  We didn&#8217;t mean it! /sarc<br />
 If the One cannot at least ACT outraged at his minions chicanery, it also is telling.<br />
tom</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>njartist:

@ wadeusaf
“What we are observing is the Democrat version of Richard Nixon….”

No, we are not witnessing any such thing. I was in college at that time and actively involved in the right’s counter movement to SDS: Nixon was loyal to the constitution; his “corrupt” behavior was much less than LBJ or JFK.
Nov 12, 2008 - 8:22 am

On reflection, I agree with you.

 It is the dirty campaign tricks mentality I was referring to which allowed a break in to occur, that also allows this disconnect of security measures which would reject the kinds of fraudulent donations. Neither are in and of themselves assaults on the Constitution as much as they are indicative of a perception of being above certain of our laws.

 It is an attitude which must not go unrewarded, it is an attitude which ought to be rejected by the President elect as well as by the Democrat Party. The fact that they are not is telling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>njartist:</p>
<p>@ wadeusaf<br />
“What we are observing is the Democrat version of Richard Nixon….”</p>
<p>No, we are not witnessing any such thing. I was in college at that time and actively involved in the right’s counter movement to SDS: Nixon was loyal to the constitution; his “corrupt” behavior was much less than LBJ or JFK.<br />
Nov 12, 2008 &#8211; 8:22 am</p>
<p>On reflection, I agree with you.</p>
<p> It is the dirty campaign tricks mentality I was referring to which allowed a break in to occur, that also allows this disconnect of security measures which would reject the kinds of fraudulent donations. Neither are in and of themselves assaults on the Constitution as much as they are indicative of a perception of being above certain of our laws.</p>
<p> It is an attitude which must not go unrewarded, it is an attitude which ought to be rejected by the President elect as well as by the Democrat Party. The fact that they are not is telling.</p>
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		<title>By: bogie wheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogie wheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so let&#039;s say nobody in the halls of officialdom (FEC, DOJ, Congress [*snarf!*], media [*double snarf!*],GOP) is going to do anything about this.

What can be done, period?

Is there still any chance of an electronic trail or database?

According to Newsmax in an article on October 21st, Obama&#039;s campaign hired the company Chase Paymentech to process its online transactions.

Wouldn&#039;t Chase Paymentech presumably have a record of the #s of the credit cards that were used?  Can those records be gotten hold of?

I&#039;m neither a lawyer nor a programmer who would understand how such a database would work.

Thoughts, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so let&#8217;s say nobody in the halls of officialdom (FEC, DOJ, Congress [*snarf!*], media [*double snarf!*],GOP) is going to do anything about this.</p>
<p>What can be done, period?</p>
<p>Is there still any chance of an electronic trail or database?</p>
<p>According to Newsmax in an article on October 21st, Obama&#8217;s campaign hired the company Chase Paymentech to process its online transactions.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t Chase Paymentech presumably have a record of the #s of the credit cards that were used?  Can those records be gotten hold of?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m neither a lawyer nor a programmer who would understand how such a database would work.</p>
<p>Thoughts, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Tragic Justice &#187; The Ethereal Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tragic Justice &#187; The Ethereal Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the McCain–Feingold Act? Read this post from Belmont Club and ponder the strange way that justice works in this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: slade</title>
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		<dc:creator>slade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Real super powers&lt;/i&gt; don&#039;t have pegged currencies.

China is still growing.  I&#039;ll let others assign an age to her capitalist markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Real super powers</i> don&#8217;t have pegged currencies.</p>
<p>China is still growing.  I&#8217;ll let others assign an age to her capitalist markets.</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CedarShmuck, so Progressive Jews poured in all those contributions to the One.  THAT so well explains why Hamas and Ahmadinejad and all the rest of Israel&#039;s friends feel so good about Obama.  Hamas, in your worldview, must be controlled by those damn Jewish Progressives! And there are hundreds and thousands of Jewish progressives all over the world, just waiting to control YOU and everyone else, via the ONE;  in fact, all those thousands of non-traceable Obama contributions via credit cards could only have come, I guess, from those millions of Progressive Jews scattered throughout America and the world.

Damn clever, those Progressive Jews.  

Yes, it is true that Progressive Jews voted overwhelmingly for Obama, and as a Jew, I was pretty pissed about it, but the canard about Jews controlling everything is the usual Protocols-of-the-Elders-of-Zion bullshit.  

Gets old. Go piss up a rope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CedarShmuck, so Progressive Jews poured in all those contributions to the One.  THAT so well explains why Hamas and Ahmadinejad and all the rest of Israel&#8217;s friends feel so good about Obama.  Hamas, in your worldview, must be controlled by those damn Jewish Progressives! And there are hundreds and thousands of Jewish progressives all over the world, just waiting to control YOU and everyone else, via the ONE;  in fact, all those thousands of non-traceable Obama contributions via credit cards could only have come, I guess, from those millions of Progressive Jews scattered throughout America and the world.</p>
<p>Damn clever, those Progressive Jews.  </p>
<p>Yes, it is true that Progressive Jews voted overwhelmingly for Obama, and as a Jew, I was pretty pissed about it, but the canard about Jews controlling everything is the usual Protocols-of-the-Elders-of-Zion bullshit.  </p>
<p>Gets old. Go piss up a rope.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>goesh: internal cohesion.

Have you seen the Chinese, in recent history, deal with a real problem?

I&#039;ll hold my bets on China until after seeing them weather the current economic malaise.

Derek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goesh: internal cohesion.</p>
<p>Have you seen the Chinese, in recent history, deal with a real problem?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll hold my bets on China until after seeing them weather the current economic malaise.</p>
<p>Derek</p>
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		<title>By: Cosmeau Bugleweed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cosmeau Bugleweed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: comment 45 above;

La langue anglaise she not my langue maternelle (dis mean mudder tongue for American guy). 

I make big mistake, une grosse erreur; I say &quot;devious&quot; what is bad English word I don&#039; hunnerstan too good. 

I don&#039; mean say &quot;devious&quot;; I really really, vraiement mean say &quot;subtile&quot; or &quot;nuance&quot;, des bons mots francais, not &quot;devious&quot;. Never, never &quot;devious&quot;, jamais. 

I hapologize ten tousand times; I don&#039; wan&#039; go en prison. I don&#039; like les manacles any more. (Dis mean handcuff.)

Da freedom of da speech is American concep&#039;. 

We don&#039; got dat hup in da nort. Don&#039; need dat stuff. 

Nex&#039; time I vote for le Quebec libre and contre le racism institutionel des canadiens anglais

Au revoir &amp; Bye-bye.

Cosmeau Mauvaiseherbe deBugle  

P.S.

Snap quiz: 

&quot;We will stun you with our ingratitude.&quot;

Who said it? When? 

Does it in any way relate to what was done to the naive and foolish right in the U.S. election?

Where is Iraq, anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: comment 45 above;</p>
<p>La langue anglaise she not my langue maternelle (dis mean mudder tongue for American guy). </p>
<p>I make big mistake, une grosse erreur; I say &#8220;devious&#8221; what is bad English word I don&#8217; hunnerstan too good. </p>
<p>I don&#8217; mean say &#8220;devious&#8221;; I really really, vraiement mean say &#8220;subtile&#8221; or &#8220;nuance&#8221;, des bons mots francais, not &#8220;devious&#8221;. Never, never &#8220;devious&#8221;, jamais. </p>
<p>I hapologize ten tousand times; I don&#8217; wan&#8217; go en prison. I don&#8217; like les manacles any more. (Dis mean handcuff.)</p>
<p>Da freedom of da speech is American concep&#8217;. </p>
<p>We don&#8217; got dat hup in da nort. Don&#8217; need dat stuff. </p>
<p>Nex&#8217; time I vote for le Quebec libre and contre le racism institutionel des canadiens anglais</p>
<p>Au revoir &amp; Bye-bye.</p>
<p>Cosmeau Mauvaiseherbe deBugle  </p>
<p>P.S.</p>
<p>Snap quiz: </p>
<p>&#8220;We will stun you with our ingratitude.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who said it? When? </p>
<p>Does it in any way relate to what was done to the naive and foolish right in the U.S. election?</p>
<p>Where is Iraq, anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Unsk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unsk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you thinking the Bush DoJ will investigate Obama- forgetaboutit!~ Not going to happen -ever.

The Bush DoJ has been in the tank for the Dems from day one. Think of the Scooter Libby railroad job, and then ask yourself why is Congressman William Jefferson still walking around - what is it - three years since the FBI found a load of cash in his refrigerator.

Until the Pubs get some spine, we will no longer be a nation under the rule of law. Obama will go through the motions and appearances of enforcing and obeying the law when it is convenient. But when it is not- look out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you thinking the Bush DoJ will investigate Obama- forgetaboutit!~ Not going to happen -ever.</p>
<p>The Bush DoJ has been in the tank for the Dems from day one. Think of the Scooter Libby railroad job, and then ask yourself why is Congressman William Jefferson still walking around &#8211; what is it &#8211; three years since the FBI found a load of cash in his refrigerator.</p>
<p>Until the Pubs get some spine, we will no longer be a nation under the rule of law. Obama will go through the motions and appearances of enforcing and obeying the law when it is convenient. But when it is not- look out.</p>
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		<title>By: goesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>goesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the previous comments about China. 50 yrs ago they were essentially a peasant economy and now they are in outer space. Why wouldn&#039;t they soon be the worlds only real super power?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the previous comments about China. 50 yrs ago they were essentially a peasant economy and now they are in outer space. Why wouldn&#8217;t they soon be the worlds only real super power?</p>
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