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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/18/the-zogby-poll/comment-page-2/#comment-23342</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 02:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear tommyvee: 

We conservatives will not tolerate government-run media.  

Therefore, we are free to criticize the MSM----or anybody else we choose to criticize.

That is the free market in operation.  

Do not try to silence it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear tommyvee: </p>
<p>We conservatives will not tolerate government-run media.  </p>
<p>Therefore, we are free to criticize the MSM&#8212;-or anybody else we choose to criticize.</p>
<p>That is the free market in operation.  </p>
<p>Do not try to silence it.</p>
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		<title>By: tommyvee</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/18/the-zogby-poll/comment-page-2/#comment-23263</link>
		<dc:creator>tommyvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Obama supporter, it amuses me to read conservatives railing against the &quot;MSM&quot;.
I thought conservatives believed that free markets and capitalism by definition produced the best possible results (the invisible hand and all that).
But the dreaded MSM is just a bunch of profit-seeking corporations, so by conservative defintion they are producing the best results possible (or do &quot;conservatives&quot; want government-run media instead).
Quite the cognitive dissonance there, not that I expect it to be addressed.
That push-poll by Zogby was full of half-truths and trick questions, so there is no suprise that people did not answer with the results that conservative orthodoxy would expect.
If this comments section is representative of conservative &quot;thought&quot; get ready for a long time in the wilderness, true believers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Obama supporter, it amuses me to read conservatives railing against the &#8220;MSM&#8221;.<br />
I thought conservatives believed that free markets and capitalism by definition produced the best possible results (the invisible hand and all that).<br />
But the dreaded MSM is just a bunch of profit-seeking corporations, so by conservative defintion they are producing the best results possible (or do &#8220;conservatives&#8221; want government-run media instead).<br />
Quite the cognitive dissonance there, not that I expect it to be addressed.<br />
That push-poll by Zogby was full of half-truths and trick questions, so there is no suprise that people did not answer with the results that conservative orthodoxy would expect.<br />
If this comments section is representative of conservative &#8220;thought&#8221; get ready for a long time in the wilderness, true believers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/18/the-zogby-poll/comment-page-2/#comment-23074</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddy, Mrs Cavendish is a Dear, is she not?

Too bad her moonbat nephew bears the same
family name.   Or is that moonbat niece?
These days with the name &quot;Butch&quot; Cavendish
one remains a bit unsure of gender.

In those Thrilling Days Of Yesteryear, there was no such confusion.   However, Silver will still run the miscreants down.  

So Get&#039;em Up Scout.  Time for a bit of a go at the latest bunch of wogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddy, Mrs Cavendish is a Dear, is she not?</p>
<p>Too bad her moonbat nephew bears the same<br />
family name.   Or is that moonbat niece?<br />
These days with the name &#8220;Butch&#8221; Cavendish<br />
one remains a bit unsure of gender.</p>
<p>In those Thrilling Days Of Yesteryear, there was no such confusion.   However, Silver will still run the miscreants down.  </p>
<p>So Get&#8217;em Up Scout.  Time for a bit of a go at the latest bunch of wogs.</p>
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		<title>By: peterike</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/18/the-zogby-poll/comment-page-2/#comment-23030</link>
		<dc:creator>peterike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the media skew, I think the best thing Palin can do for the country is chuck politics and become the white, conservative Oprah. Get a day time television show and hammer the ignorant female masses over the head with reality. 

She could have a reading club like Oprah that pushes right-leaning books. She could promote conservative ideas. She could run investigative reports showing the perfidious behavior of Democrats. She could, in short, bring a sword of light into the belly of the beast. I think she would have 100 times the impact as a TV star than as a Senator or anything like that. 

I hope she moves in that direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the media skew, I think the best thing Palin can do for the country is chuck politics and become the white, conservative Oprah. Get a day time television show and hammer the ignorant female masses over the head with reality. </p>
<p>She could have a reading club like Oprah that pushes right-leaning books. She could promote conservative ideas. She could run investigative reports showing the perfidious behavior of Democrats. She could, in short, bring a sword of light into the belly of the beast. I think she would have 100 times the impact as a TV star than as a Senator or anything like that. </p>
<p>I hope she moves in that direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Eggplant</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/18/the-zogby-poll/comment-page-2/#comment-23023</link>
		<dc:creator>Eggplant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look&#039;s like the cat dragged in a couple moonbats.  

Hate it when that happens, such a bother cleaning up the mess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look&#8217;s like the cat dragged in a couple moonbats.  </p>
<p>Hate it when that happens, such a bother cleaning up the mess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lifeofthemind</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/18/the-zogby-poll/comment-page-2/#comment-23017</link>
		<dc:creator>Lifeofthemind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@buddy larsen,
Toss a scone at me at the next meeting of the Drones? What what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@buddy larsen,<br />
Toss a scone at me at the next meeting of the Drones? What what?</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/18/the-zogby-poll/comment-page-2/#comment-23011</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;The anti-”MSM” propaganda machine....&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

hahaha --good one --how bout, &quot;the anti-bulldozer tinkertoy&quot;?  &quot;the anti-tsunami beachball&quot;? &quot;the anti-Tyrannosaurus-Rex bunny-wabbit&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;The anti-”MSM” propaganda machine&#8230;.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>hahaha &#8211;good one &#8211;how bout, &#8220;the anti-bulldozer tinkertoy&#8221;?  &#8220;the anti-tsunami beachball&#8221;? &#8220;the anti-Tyrannosaurus-Rex bunny-wabbit&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tut tut, old fellow, I have already ended my marginalization. The transfats you know. Bum for the old ticker. 

Nothing but the freshest butter for me, churned nightly by the downstairs staff and served by old Mrs. Cavendish at eight o&#039;clock sharp in the Tea Vestibule of the Tusk Room in the south library annex, along with my hot scones, orange marmalade, and of course the morning Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tut tut, old fellow, I have already ended my marginalization. The transfats you know. Bum for the old ticker. </p>
<p>Nothing but the freshest butter for me, churned nightly by the downstairs staff and served by old Mrs. Cavendish at eight o&#8217;clock sharp in the Tea Vestibule of the Tusk Room in the south library annex, along with my hot scones, orange marmalade, and of course the morning Times.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/18/the-zogby-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-23009</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Most (56%) were also not able to correctly answer that Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Interesting that this small victory for the facts was presented almost as if it were error.  56% of Obama&#039;s supporters knew the facts?  The anti-&quot;MSM&quot; propaganda machine got beaten again.

Moral of the story:  Stick to the facts.  Obama didn&#039;t start his political career in the living room of former Weather Underground members.  Anyone who thought that accurate must think the world was created six years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Most (56%) were also not able to correctly answer that Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground.</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting that this small victory for the facts was presented almost as if it were error.  56% of Obama&#8217;s supporters knew the facts?  The anti-&#8221;MSM&#8221; propaganda machine got beaten again.</p>
<p>Moral of the story:  Stick to the facts.  Obama didn&#8217;t start his political career in the living room of former Weather Underground members.  Anyone who thought that accurate must think the world was created six years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: JollyRoger</title>
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		<dc:creator>JollyRoger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My goodness, your panties are in quite the knot, aren&#039;t they? 

I have some advice for you; stop being a bunch of control-freak hatemongers and return conservatism to its traditional definition. Who knows? You might even end your marginalization that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness, your panties are in quite the knot, aren&#8217;t they? </p>
<p>I have some advice for you; stop being a bunch of control-freak hatemongers and return conservatism to its traditional definition. Who knows? You might even end your marginalization that way.</p>
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