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		<title>By: December 2 &#171; clearance on patio furniture cushions</title>
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		<dc:creator>December 2 &#171; clearance on patio furniture cushions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rabbit &#8211; Richard Fernandez, Belmont Club: &#8220;Christian Whitton and Kristopher Harrison of the State Department make a private argument [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marzouq the Redneck Muslim</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/12/01/crusader-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-24989</link>
		<dc:creator>Marzouq the Redneck Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cannoneer #4, RE: Single Farsi Blogger.

The U.S. Govt has less Arabic, Farsi, Pashtoon speakers than it has BAND MEMBERS!  Yeah we have a long way to go.  Enemy elements are inside our OODA Loop on that one!

Salaam again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannoneer #4, RE: Single Farsi Blogger.</p>
<p>The U.S. Govt has less Arabic, Farsi, Pashtoon speakers than it has BAND MEMBERS!  Yeah we have a long way to go.  Enemy elements are inside our OODA Loop on that one!</p>
<p>Salaam again.</p>
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		<title>By: Marzouq the Redneck Muslim</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/12/01/crusader-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-24988</link>
		<dc:creator>Marzouq the Redneck Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cannoneer #4,

Interesting site!  Ahead of curve!

I salute you.

Salaam eleikum Sir!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannoneer #4,</p>
<p>Interesting site!  Ahead of curve!</p>
<p>I salute you.</p>
<p>Salaam eleikum Sir!</p>
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		<title>By: Marzouq the Redneck Muslim</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/12/01/crusader-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-24983</link>
		<dc:creator>Marzouq the Redneck Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Boston #12,

Thanks for the list!

Salaam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Boston #12,</p>
<p>Thanks for the list!</p>
<p>Salaam!</p>
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		<title>By: Marzouq the Redneck Muslim</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/12/01/crusader-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-24978</link>
		<dc:creator>Marzouq the Redneck Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know Fred, what makes Americans so dangerously effective?  Noone knows what we look like and... we are freekin crazy!

This war can not be won with B-52&#039;s and Trident submarines.  They only provide a threat, &quot;big stick&quot;, if you will.

Marzouq, Lover of Love, Hater of Hate, Seeker of Truth, out!

Oh yeah, Salaam eleikum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know Fred, what makes Americans so dangerously effective?  Noone knows what we look like and&#8230; we are freekin crazy!</p>
<p>This war can not be won with B-52&#8217;s and Trident submarines.  They only provide a threat, &#8220;big stick&#8221;, if you will.</p>
<p>Marzouq, Lover of Love, Hater of Hate, Seeker of Truth, out!</p>
<p>Oh yeah, Salaam eleikum!</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marzouq at #44,

You are a delusional nutjob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marzouq at #44,</p>
<p>You are a delusional nutjob.</p>
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		<title>By: Marzouq the Redneck Muslim</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/12/01/crusader-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-24955</link>
		<dc:creator>Marzouq the Redneck Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austin,

Very good post!

Fred,

You are only fantisizing and you are wrong.

Folks,

As I have said on this blog several times in the past, THERE IS A WAR WITHIN ISLAM.  This war is similar to the wars between the European Christians during the Dark and Middle Ages.

As I have said on this blog several times in the past, THERE IS A RENAISSANCE GOING ON.  During the Renaissance of the Middle Ages there was war and economic turmoil.  This Renaissance is enabled by the internet, like the printing press enabled the Renaissance of yore.

Historians have said St Francis of Assisi was one who stimulated the Renaissance of yore.  I guess Bill Gates stimulated this one, heh heh.

Wretchard,

Good post and very good food for thought.  I think the proposed department is well named but a more appropriate name for those who study the theory/concept of 4GW (4th Generation Warfare, war faught with means other than military).

Folks,

As a former Christian who answered the Call of Islam, I believe Muslims should seek higher understanding of the great prophet Jesus Son of Mary (PBUH).

There has to be a greater understanding by all believers of our Creator and the promise of life after death that all Hebrew, Christian, Muslim and other prophets (PHUT) lived under differing circumstances/cultures and had different issues to deal with.  Heck, study any culture and you see a common thread, a BELIEF in a higher power or creator.  Another common thread is how the leadership of the believers can be judged by their works because of the power and control they acquired.

Salaam eleikum to all Y&#039;all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin,</p>
<p>Very good post!</p>
<p>Fred,</p>
<p>You are only fantisizing and you are wrong.</p>
<p>Folks,</p>
<p>As I have said on this blog several times in the past, THERE IS A WAR WITHIN ISLAM.  This war is similar to the wars between the European Christians during the Dark and Middle Ages.</p>
<p>As I have said on this blog several times in the past, THERE IS A RENAISSANCE GOING ON.  During the Renaissance of the Middle Ages there was war and economic turmoil.  This Renaissance is enabled by the internet, like the printing press enabled the Renaissance of yore.</p>
<p>Historians have said St Francis of Assisi was one who stimulated the Renaissance of yore.  I guess Bill Gates stimulated this one, heh heh.</p>
<p>Wretchard,</p>
<p>Good post and very good food for thought.  I think the proposed department is well named but a more appropriate name for those who study the theory/concept of 4GW (4th Generation Warfare, war faught with means other than military).</p>
<p>Folks,</p>
<p>As a former Christian who answered the Call of Islam, I believe Muslims should seek higher understanding of the great prophet Jesus Son of Mary (PBUH).</p>
<p>There has to be a greater understanding by all believers of our Creator and the promise of life after death that all Hebrew, Christian, Muslim and other prophets (PHUT) lived under differing circumstances/cultures and had different issues to deal with.  Heck, study any culture and you see a common thread, a BELIEF in a higher power or creator.  Another common thread is how the leadership of the believers can be judged by their works because of the power and control they acquired.</p>
<p>Salaam eleikum to all Y&#8217;all!</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it would be a fine thing to discredit Islam or its radical elements directly on a theological level, you are all right that this is not something that the West can actually achieve for profound internal reasons on both sides.  

That is not to say that Jihadism cannot be propogandized against.  Rather than focus on its theological roots, would it not make more sense for the West to broadcast its real life failures.  The Surge dried up the Jihadi element of the war in Iraq partially, according to Wretchard if memory serves, because we became so good at killing the Jihadi&#039;s.  It is all well and good to go die in a glorious battle but even nut jobs will think twice about joining up for the war if it brings no chance of success and a certainty of death.  We won not by killing all the Jihadi&#039;s but rather by discrediting the cause.

Could not the same logic be applied to undermining the results of Jihad where it is tried?  Gaza, Iran, the tribal regions, all huge failures by all metrics but ideological purity.  Those maddrassas in Pakistan are not exactly training people to be self sufficient.  If we could show that whatever the ideological roots of the movements are the institutions practicing it fail, it reduces the appeal of the ideology.  The fall of the Soviet Union was aided in part because  at some point even the Communists had to admit it did not work.

The message would not be &quot;Join the West&quot; or &quot;Our Islam is better than your Islam&quot;.  Rather it would be &quot;Jihad kills not only the Infidel but your Tribe.&quot;  The West is far more likely to be capable of this kind of propaganda than to attack the ideological underpinning of Jihad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it would be a fine thing to discredit Islam or its radical elements directly on a theological level, you are all right that this is not something that the West can actually achieve for profound internal reasons on both sides.  </p>
<p>That is not to say that Jihadism cannot be propogandized against.  Rather than focus on its theological roots, would it not make more sense for the West to broadcast its real life failures.  The Surge dried up the Jihadi element of the war in Iraq partially, according to Wretchard if memory serves, because we became so good at killing the Jihadi&#8217;s.  It is all well and good to go die in a glorious battle but even nut jobs will think twice about joining up for the war if it brings no chance of success and a certainty of death.  We won not by killing all the Jihadi&#8217;s but rather by discrediting the cause.</p>
<p>Could not the same logic be applied to undermining the results of Jihad where it is tried?  Gaza, Iran, the tribal regions, all huge failures by all metrics but ideological purity.  Those maddrassas in Pakistan are not exactly training people to be self sufficient.  If we could show that whatever the ideological roots of the movements are the institutions practicing it fail, it reduces the appeal of the ideology.  The fall of the Soviet Union was aided in part because  at some point even the Communists had to admit it did not work.</p>
<p>The message would not be &#8220;Join the West&#8221; or &#8220;Our Islam is better than your Islam&#8221;.  Rather it would be &#8220;Jihad kills not only the Infidel but your Tribe.&#8221;  The West is far more likely to be capable of this kind of propaganda than to attack the ideological underpinning of Jihad.</p>
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		<title>By: Cannoneer No. 4</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cannoneer No. 4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subtly proselytizing impressionable adolescents on the internet should not be particularly dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subtly proselytizing impressionable adolescents on the internet should not be particularly dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Fletcher Christian</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/12/01/crusader-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-24821</link>
		<dc:creator>Fletcher Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I&#039;m not very good at HTML. Someone please clean it up? In any case, the URL there is quite interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I&#8217;m not very good at HTML. Someone please clean it up? In any case, the URL there is quite interesting.</p>
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