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		<title>By: Cultural Notes &#171; 36 Chambers - The Legendary Journeys: Execution to the max!</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/12/23/all-of-hoovers-men/comment-page-1/#comment-27960</link>
		<dc:creator>Cultural Notes &#171; 36 Chambers - The Legendary Journeys: Execution to the max!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] long-term effects of the FBI leaking information on Nixon White House shenanigans to the media.</description>
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		<title>By: Deep Throat&#8217;s Secret Motives &#124; The Blog of Record</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/12/23/all-of-hoovers-men/comment-page-1/#comment-27626</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep Throat&#8217;s Secret Motives &#124; The Blog of Record</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Via Richard Fernandez.) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tanarg</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/12/23/all-of-hoovers-men/comment-page-1/#comment-27575</link>
		<dc:creator>tanarg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d add only that journalists are notoriously undereducated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d add only that journalists are notoriously undereducated.</p>
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		<title>By: geoffb</title>
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		<dc:creator>geoffb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would add &quot;Secret Agenda&quot; by Jim Hougan to the books as it covers some angles to the Watergate story that aren&#039;t in the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add &#8220;Secret Agenda&#8221; by Jim Hougan to the books as it covers some angles to the Watergate story that aren&#8217;t in the others.</p>
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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/12/23/all-of-hoovers-men/comment-page-1/#comment-27461</link>
		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do know that the FBI has illegally been bugging people and tailing them since before J. Edgar went after Martin Luther King.

We also know, now, that J. Edgar had odd tastes in cross-dressing and other personal peculiarities that the Russians might have found of interest in a blackmail sort of way.

We have never, ever, seen any of the dinosaur media go after the FBI for *their* illegal bugging and surveillance in the same way they&#039;ve gone after Bush and the NSA the past few years, nor have we ever seen them dog Hoover or his other old boys the way the media have set up and pilloried people like Libby.

I&#039;m just wondering to myself now what will happen when Hillary gets to State.  I can&#039;t see her allowing the same sort of brain meld done to her that Condoleeza Rice accepted, but on the other hand, Hillary is *such* an inner old-Washingtonian I don&#039;t see her cleaning out that cesspond either.  My guess is that she&#039;ll bring in a few of her own trusted right-hand people and set up an inner fiefdom which excludes all the lifer bureaucrats as much as possible.  

Be fun if she&#039;d take it seriously and set say, Bill (who is a VERY clever little devil when he puts his mind to it) the task of outing the more traitorous of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do know that the FBI has illegally been bugging people and tailing them since before J. Edgar went after Martin Luther King.</p>
<p>We also know, now, that J. Edgar had odd tastes in cross-dressing and other personal peculiarities that the Russians might have found of interest in a blackmail sort of way.</p>
<p>We have never, ever, seen any of the dinosaur media go after the FBI for *their* illegal bugging and surveillance in the same way they&#8217;ve gone after Bush and the NSA the past few years, nor have we ever seen them dog Hoover or his other old boys the way the media have set up and pilloried people like Libby.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just wondering to myself now what will happen when Hillary gets to State.  I can&#8217;t see her allowing the same sort of brain meld done to her that Condoleeza Rice accepted, but on the other hand, Hillary is *such* an inner old-Washingtonian I don&#8217;t see her cleaning out that cesspond either.  My guess is that she&#8217;ll bring in a few of her own trusted right-hand people and set up an inner fiefdom which excludes all the lifer bureaucrats as much as possible.  </p>
<p>Be fun if she&#8217;d take it seriously and set say, Bill (who is a VERY clever little devil when he puts his mind to it) the task of outing the more traitorous of them.</p>
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		<title>By: rodney</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Post had a choice between helping Nixon get the FBI and helping the FBI get Nixon.
   But, we do not know what the FBI had on the Post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Post had a choice between helping Nixon get the FBI and helping the FBI get Nixon.<br />
   But, we do not know what the FBI had on the Post.</p>
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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
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		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got one of those &quot;posting too quickly&quot; notices, too, before I even hit the first send key.  I think the FBI has hooked up to this thread and is tracing our ISP&#039;s back to send the black helicopters out after us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got one of those &#8220;posting too quickly&#8221; notices, too, before I even hit the first send key.  I think the FBI has hooked up to this thread and is tracing our ISP&#8217;s back to send the black helicopters out after us.</p>
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		<title>By: sirius_sir</title>
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		<dc:creator>sirius_sir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.&lt;/i&gt;

Not having commented here in days, I find that comment somewhat perplexing.

I also am perplexed as to where my original comment disappeared to. It was relevant and succinct, but unfortunately has disappeared into the aether. Oh well. Merry Christmas, all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.</i></p>
<p>Not having commented here in days, I find that comment somewhat perplexing.</p>
<p>I also am perplexed as to where my original comment disappeared to. It was relevant and succinct, but unfortunately has disappeared into the aether. Oh well. Merry Christmas, all.</p>
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		<title>By: Annoy Mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annoy Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peterike;&quot;No. Bush had the opportunity to clean the muck out of all those stables, but he didn’t.&quot;

See how well that worked out for Porter Goss. The muck has a history of resorting to extra-legal methods when their empire is at stake. Even if it means devouring their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peterike;&#8221;No. Bush had the opportunity to clean the muck out of all those stables, but he didn’t.&#8221;</p>
<p>See how well that worked out for Porter Goss. The muck has a history of resorting to extra-legal methods when their empire is at stake. Even if it means devouring their own.</p>
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		<title>By: peterike</title>
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		<dc:creator>peterike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Is there any way the army of Davids that make up the internet can take on and defeat the entrenched Goliaths that make up the FBI, the CIA and the State Department? &lt;/i&gt;

No. Bush had the opportunity to clean the muck out of all those stables, but he didn&#039;t. The legions of Left-wingers that the Clintons installed remained where they were. Even when they colluded with the press to bring positive harm to the country -- and numerous times, not just once -- the Bush team did nothing. The press wasn&#039;t charged with anything. Nobody inside any agency was charged with anything. Nothing was done. 

The Bush team should have gone after them hammer and tongs and left no stone unturned. People should have gone to prison. Some, likely, should have gotten their last cigarette and a blindfold. Yet Bush didn&#039;t even seem to get angry about it.  

Obama will further consolidate the Left in these organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Is there any way the army of Davids that make up the internet can take on and defeat the entrenched Goliaths that make up the FBI, the CIA and the State Department? </i></p>
<p>No. Bush had the opportunity to clean the muck out of all those stables, but he didn&#8217;t. The legions of Left-wingers that the Clintons installed remained where they were. Even when they colluded with the press to bring positive harm to the country &#8212; and numerous times, not just once &#8212; the Bush team did nothing. The press wasn&#8217;t charged with anything. Nobody inside any agency was charged with anything. Nothing was done. </p>
<p>The Bush team should have gone after them hammer and tongs and left no stone unturned. People should have gone to prison. Some, likely, should have gotten their last cigarette and a blindfold. Yet Bush didn&#8217;t even seem to get angry about it.  </p>
<p>Obama will further consolidate the Left in these organizations.</p>
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