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		<title>By: Road Sassy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This and That.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Road Sassy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This and That.</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Agents in the middle east are destroyed, the way the US Military did Al Qaida in Iraq. There is an interesting take on it from Wretchard at Belmont Club in a comment on one of his posts: Maybe the root of this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Agents in the middle east are destroyed, the way the US Military did Al Qaida in Iraq. There is an interesting take on it from Wretchard at Belmont Club in a comment on one of his posts: Maybe the root of this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JFSanders</title>
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		<dc:creator>JFSanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look back into the history of why wars are prosecuted you will see that population pressure is the root cause. See Strategy by B.H. Liddell Hart.

Who among the nations is experiencing the largest population pressure? China, India, and the Arab ME.

 Who has the most to gain from war? China, Russia.

Who has the least containment of morals? China, Arab ME. 

See the pattern?

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look back into the history of why wars are prosecuted you will see that population pressure is the root cause. See Strategy by B.H. Liddell Hart.</p>
<p>Who among the nations is experiencing the largest population pressure? China, India, and the Arab ME.</p>
<p> Who has the most to gain from war? China, Russia.</p>
<p>Who has the least containment of morals? China, Arab ME. </p>
<p>See the pattern?</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: feeblemind</title>
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		<dc:creator>feeblemind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in Biblical times was there not occaisions where the Israelites wiped out their enemies to the last man woman and child? Under Saul perhaps? Is it written they should never do that again? Any Biblical scholars out there know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in Biblical times was there not occaisions where the Israelites wiped out their enemies to the last man woman and child? Under Saul perhaps? Is it written they should never do that again? Any Biblical scholars out there know?</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: that picture.  right - give the iranians nuclear weapons, block inspection, let the middle east become the swarm, supported by post-colonial PR, to force the USA (under severe economic circumstances) into isolation.  pakistan disrupted and iran w/ nukes.  no need to direct them explicitly, just to enable them.  a string of attacks over many years establishes capability and intent, or at least the reasonable representation of capabiilty and intent.  

plans long, long in preparation.  who would believe it?

then the oil supply can easily be disrupted, because who has plenty of indigenous oil?  and whose oil and gas are the EU, for example, most dependent on?

and what if a nuclear detonation or two should crush at one stroke india&#039;s ability to compete with china, and even unleash a south asian nuclear exchange?

i know amateurs think strategy and professionals think tactics/logistics, but... it is true.  maybe this could all be coincidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: that picture.  right &#8211; give the iranians nuclear weapons, block inspection, let the middle east become the swarm, supported by post-colonial PR, to force the USA (under severe economic circumstances) into isolation.  pakistan disrupted and iran w/ nukes.  no need to direct them explicitly, just to enable them.  a string of attacks over many years establishes capability and intent, or at least the reasonable representation of capabiilty and intent.  </p>
<p>plans long, long in preparation.  who would believe it?</p>
<p>then the oil supply can easily be disrupted, because who has plenty of indigenous oil?  and whose oil and gas are the EU, for example, most dependent on?</p>
<p>and what if a nuclear detonation or two should crush at one stroke india&#8217;s ability to compete with china, and even unleash a south asian nuclear exchange?</p>
<p>i know amateurs think strategy and professionals think tactics/logistics, but&#8230; it is true.  maybe this could all be coincidence.</p>
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		<title>By: SpeakEasy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpeakEasy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The destruction of the greenhouses had another very important purpose: It ensured the people were unable to fend for themselves and would forever have to rely on the government for food. An empty stomach makes a compelling political argument.

Total victory is the only true solution. In this case that it also means total destruction. As abhorrent as dropping the A-bomb on Japan was it revealed our  total and irrevocable resolve to end the war. And so it was ended. Only Israel can not be the first to let that genie out of the bottle for fear other Muslim Nuclear Club members would feel justified in kind. Conventional total destruction is the only solution but the will to do so must be first mustered. Let it be soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The destruction of the greenhouses had another very important purpose: It ensured the people were unable to fend for themselves and would forever have to rely on the government for food. An empty stomach makes a compelling political argument.</p>
<p>Total victory is the only true solution. In this case that it also means total destruction. As abhorrent as dropping the A-bomb on Japan was it revealed our  total and irrevocable resolve to end the war. And so it was ended. Only Israel can not be the first to let that genie out of the bottle for fear other Muslim Nuclear Club members would feel justified in kind. Conventional total destruction is the only solution but the will to do so must be first mustered. Let it be soon.</p>
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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
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		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Wow wow wow -- I almost feel sorry for poor little Obama if the liberal anti-Israeli posters here are samples of his followers.  Most can&#039;t spell, let alone maintain any linear thinking other than &quot;bad neo-con!&quot; and &quot;yes we can!&quot;

And the one who can spell gets all his &quot;information&quot; from CNN.  What a sad group of people for Obama to be beholden to once he takes his oath of office to Allah on the official politically-correct Koran.

Wretchard, in your thoughts on &quot;war as a money-making economy&quot;, you overlook how much money the United States spends on Pentagon toys.  I read something a long time ago that the one thing that brought America out of the Great Depression was WW2 and the jobs created to fight that war.  If Obama *really* wanted to immediately end the current recession he&#039;d declare war on both Russia and China -- a shooting war, no nukes -- and watch the stock market begin to shoot back up again as Detroit&#039;s defunct auto industry and unemployed union employees went back to work making bullets and torpedo&#039;s.

And to the poster who caught it, yes, I was thinking about the killer bumblebees and bunny rabbits we see on Palestinian television who are busy inculcating their small children with proper amounts of hatred.  There was also a picture a year or two ago of a teeny-tiny baby with a dynamite belt strapped around his snuggly little tummy.  Tell me what a successful human being *that* kid is going to grow up to be!  

I truly have to believe that because of the combination of Jew hatred taught from infancy and simple Arab Koran-taught hatred of everything else, Palestinians are each and every one screwed up beyond salvation and need to be terminated like a rabid Cujo.

Finally, LittleGreenFootballs reports that there *are* Arabs &quot;rioting&quot; in the streets over Israel&#039;s treatment of the poor innocent Palestinians.  Said Arabs being in the streets of Iraq ... in a city where Saddam used to like to play ... near the border to Iran.  Gee.  Imagine that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Wow wow wow &#8212; I almost feel sorry for poor little Obama if the liberal anti-Israeli posters here are samples of his followers.  Most can&#8217;t spell, let alone maintain any linear thinking other than &#8220;bad neo-con!&#8221; and &#8220;yes we can!&#8221;</p>
<p>And the one who can spell gets all his &#8220;information&#8221; from CNN.  What a sad group of people for Obama to be beholden to once he takes his oath of office to Allah on the official politically-correct Koran.</p>
<p>Wretchard, in your thoughts on &#8220;war as a money-making economy&#8221;, you overlook how much money the United States spends on Pentagon toys.  I read something a long time ago that the one thing that brought America out of the Great Depression was WW2 and the jobs created to fight that war.  If Obama *really* wanted to immediately end the current recession he&#8217;d declare war on both Russia and China &#8212; a shooting war, no nukes &#8212; and watch the stock market begin to shoot back up again as Detroit&#8217;s defunct auto industry and unemployed union employees went back to work making bullets and torpedo&#8217;s.</p>
<p>And to the poster who caught it, yes, I was thinking about the killer bumblebees and bunny rabbits we see on Palestinian television who are busy inculcating their small children with proper amounts of hatred.  There was also a picture a year or two ago of a teeny-tiny baby with a dynamite belt strapped around his snuggly little tummy.  Tell me what a successful human being *that* kid is going to grow up to be!  </p>
<p>I truly have to believe that because of the combination of Jew hatred taught from infancy and simple Arab Koran-taught hatred of everything else, Palestinians are each and every one screwed up beyond salvation and need to be terminated like a rabid Cujo.</p>
<p>Finally, LittleGreenFootballs reports that there *are* Arabs &#8220;rioting&#8221; in the streets over Israel&#8217;s treatment of the poor innocent Palestinians.  Said Arabs being in the streets of Iraq &#8230; in a city where Saddam used to like to play &#8230; near the border to Iran.  Gee.  Imagine that.</p>
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		<title>By: Unsk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unsk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad that the Israelis finally got tougher with the Palestinians, but I  &#039;m afraid like Jonathan and Michelle R, that this is an election stunt by Ohlmert.
That is the logical answer to the question of why now?

Israel&#039;s big problem, as well as Egypt&#039;s and Saudi Arabia&#039;s,  is Iran and the Bomb.

The Palestinian&#039;s are a nuisance in comparison.  Time is running out on Israel to hit Iran, with Obama coming to power.  This strike on Hamas does little to change  the equation of that problem, I&#039;m afraid. I&#039;m also afraid that a tough strike on Hamas for election PR is much easier to deal with than dealing with the real issue: Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad that the Israelis finally got tougher with the Palestinians, but I  &#8216;m afraid like Jonathan and Michelle R, that this is an election stunt by Ohlmert.<br />
That is the logical answer to the question of why now?</p>
<p>Israel&#8217;s big problem, as well as Egypt&#8217;s and Saudi Arabia&#8217;s,  is Iran and the Bomb.</p>
<p>The Palestinian&#8217;s are a nuisance in comparison.  Time is running out on Israel to hit Iran, with Obama coming to power.  This strike on Hamas does little to change  the equation of that problem, I&#8217;m afraid. I&#8217;m also afraid that a tough strike on Hamas for election PR is much easier to deal with than dealing with the real issue: Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: JFSanders</title>
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		<dc:creator>JFSanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James,

Do you know why they call it the &quot;Hindu Kush&quot;?

Because people like Ghandi tried non-violent means and got Kushed/Slaughtered. By people like Hamas. 

As for Israel&#039;s two minutes HATE. It is just that. Something to PR with. If Israel was serious you would see Shermans march to the sea writ Israeli style.

The culture of Hamas never developed beyond unbroke puppy stage. They only understand peace at the most personal level. If you hurt them bad enough to scare them into suing for &quot;peace&quot; you would still have a unbroken puppy to deal with. As soon as you turn your back on them they will go back to what they know is successful for them. 

There may be hope for their grandchildren if they are removed from the culture. Sounds harsh doesn&#039;t it? But in reality it is what it is. 

Just as Christianity sometimes breeds extremists who must be dealt with harshly. So it goes for other religions like Environmentalist and Islamists and such.

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James,</p>
<p>Do you know why they call it the &#8220;Hindu Kush&#8221;?</p>
<p>Because people like Ghandi tried non-violent means and got Kushed/Slaughtered. By people like Hamas. </p>
<p>As for Israel&#8217;s two minutes HATE. It is just that. Something to PR with. If Israel was serious you would see Shermans march to the sea writ Israeli style.</p>
<p>The culture of Hamas never developed beyond unbroke puppy stage. They only understand peace at the most personal level. If you hurt them bad enough to scare them into suing for &#8220;peace&#8221; you would still have a unbroken puppy to deal with. As soon as you turn your back on them they will go back to what they know is successful for them. </p>
<p>There may be hope for their grandchildren if they are removed from the culture. Sounds harsh doesn&#8217;t it? But in reality it is what it is. </p>
<p>Just as Christianity sometimes breeds extremists who must be dealt with harshly. So it goes for other religions like Environmentalist and Islamists and such.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#67 Whiskey said:
&quot;Had the West given Muslims a REAL taste of war, in it’s full bitterness,.....
Germany, Japan, Britain, Italy, Russia, and the US lost it’s taste for War. Even “lucky” US lost half a million men in WWII. We all know it’s taste in full.&quot;

HAMAS/Hezbollah (JV) have been running a scam on the UN and the western Left for 50 years based on the idea that Palestine was a country before the state of Israel was &quot;created&quot; in 1947.  Israel predated all of what is now Western Civilization. The noblest act of the dying British Empire was the creation of Israel and the guaranty of its security by the US.

The failure to visit the &quot;taste of war, in it’s full bitterness&quot; on the H/H Joint Venture has allowed this to continue and metastasize to the point that the Whole Arab World is now &quot;behind&quot; the Pals (as in Lets you and him fight!). Whereas the visitation would have resulted in &quot;Geez, that as a dumb thing they tried to do&quot;.

The backing of the Pals offers political cover for a host of bad actors from the Sauds to Saddam to alQaida to the ayatollahs, that claim to represent the &quot;arab street.&quot; Thugs and thieves, the lot of them.  So its hard to develop Christian Charity for the people of Islam given their embracing and support of what is obviously a continuing criminal enterprise.

However, I am compelled to think that Joe Arab doesnt care much what happens in Palestine and hopes, inshallah, he should get his next meal and die with his grandkids around him, in peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#67 Whiskey said:<br />
&#8220;Had the West given Muslims a REAL taste of war, in it’s full bitterness,&#8230;..<br />
Germany, Japan, Britain, Italy, Russia, and the US lost it’s taste for War. Even “lucky” US lost half a million men in WWII. We all know it’s taste in full.&#8221;</p>
<p>HAMAS/Hezbollah (JV) have been running a scam on the UN and the western Left for 50 years based on the idea that Palestine was a country before the state of Israel was &#8220;created&#8221; in 1947.  Israel predated all of what is now Western Civilization. The noblest act of the dying British Empire was the creation of Israel and the guaranty of its security by the US.</p>
<p>The failure to visit the &#8220;taste of war, in it’s full bitterness&#8221; on the H/H Joint Venture has allowed this to continue and metastasize to the point that the Whole Arab World is now &#8220;behind&#8221; the Pals (as in Lets you and him fight!). Whereas the visitation would have resulted in &#8220;Geez, that as a dumb thing they tried to do&#8221;.</p>
<p>The backing of the Pals offers political cover for a host of bad actors from the Sauds to Saddam to alQaida to the ayatollahs, that claim to represent the &#8220;arab street.&#8221; Thugs and thieves, the lot of them.  So its hard to develop Christian Charity for the people of Islam given their embracing and support of what is obviously a continuing criminal enterprise.</p>
<p>However, I am compelled to think that Joe Arab doesnt care much what happens in Palestine and hopes, inshallah, he should get his next meal and die with his grandkids around him, in peace.</p>
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		<title>By: slimslowslider</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Comrade, how will you make a nuclear strike on the USA by Islamists a credible event? i personally think israel will only be threatened once the USA has been dealt with.&quot;

i guess that could be the plan according to this old photo.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2005/10/26/iran-israel-inside2.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the simple plan&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Comrade, how will you make a nuclear strike on the USA by Islamists a credible event? i personally think israel will only be threatened once the USA has been dealt with.&#8221;</p>
<p>i guess that could be the plan according to this old photo.<br />
<a href="http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2005/10/26/iran-israel-inside2.jpg" rel="nofollow">the simple plan</a></p>
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