59 Comments

1. Ashen:

Speaking of nazis……what about the ones here in our own country. I was very young during the carter years so I’m hoping someone can enlighten me by comparing today’s socialist takeover to the peanut administration. Is it worse now, not as bad, the same? Next, forgive me for swerving from that topic but I had a question about revolution. How do we get the military to back us, since they are us? Does anyone know some military commanders that are fuming like the rest of the country? What are they saying?

Feb 26, 2009 - 12:50 pm 2. Roderick Reilly:

It’s worse now because the so-called “Reagan Revolution” that folowed Carter was nothing but a couple of speed bumps in the road for the liberal/progressive march to dominance. Reaganism was strangled in its crib by his successor, kinder/gentler RINO George H. W. Bush. I’m not exagerrating about Bush the Elder: he was so eage to return to country-club Republicanism that he sacked any remaining Reagan appointees left over from the previous administration.

The American military is not into military coups, despite the fevered imaginations of left-wing screenwriters. If push comes to shove, however, a preponderance of ex-servicemen and women from the combat units are likely to be against any truly oppressive government that might have just pushed its luck too far. We aren’t there yet.

A likely “revolutionary” scenario might have many guardsmen refusing to show up for anti-insurrection duty, and maybe even raiding their armories. Hope it never comes to that.

Feb 26, 2009 - 1:05 pm 3. Dave D.:

…I enjoy reading Mr. Hitchens articles, but he is bat crazy if he thinks that it’s OK to vandalize anyones political posters. It sounds to me as though he got roughly what he deserved. Like many very smart and verbal folks, Hitchens lives in a fantasy world of his own making. He’s lucky he wasn’t killed, as might have happened to his companions. Losing Michael Tottens would be a tragedy, especially over such a stupid and juvenile stunt as Hitchens pulled.

Feb 26, 2009 - 1:11 pm 4. Mongoose:

AShen: Obama is much worse. The America we have known may pass away.

Feb 26, 2009 - 1:18 pm 5. Ashen:

hey mongoose, thx for the response. Are we going to let it pass away? I served in the Navy for a couple of years with an early out due to some poor choices while on leave, but I still love my country. I didn’t grow up on govt handouts, even though I was raised by a single mother who had to go to work as a secretary cause my old man flaked out, I was bred to be independent. It’s going to take more than radio programs and blogs to rescue our country.

Feb 26, 2009 - 1:23 pm 6. what is occupation:

david d…I enjoy reading Mr. Hitchens articles, but he is bat crazy if he thinks that it’s OK to vandalize anyones political posters.

Dear Dave…

A SIGN that celebrates the spot where two Jews were murdered needs to be vandalized…

If it were up to me?

I’d clusterbomb the block…

Feb 26, 2009 - 1:53 pm 7. Ashen:

Wretchard, am I overstepping the rules of the forum if I want to get the word out about a tax protest in Arizona??

Feb 26, 2009 - 1:55 pm 8. the reader Basil:

1) Chris Hitchens ought to find some better friends to hang out with when headed into the ‘hood’! I for one can’t imagine letting an aquaintence get roughed wherein I just watched and raised my voice, especially when not weapons are in sight, without getting personally involved, and right damn now! What a travesty!!
2) To scribble profanity on signs that go against your beliefs is childish. To do it in another country is stupid and arrogant.
However, in that I have said for a long time “one doesn’t learn anything until one suffers pain or loses money” maybe Mr. Hitchens is wiser for the experience.
3) There have been since the beginning of the movement those who were called Christians that did not represent the name well. However, the body of Christ, the Church, has standards for behavior and would be quick to agree that the behavior demonstrated on Hamra Street is off the mark. In all probability, if an issue were to be made of it, the persons involved would be excommunicated.
Most likely a case will not be made of it, because those involved are not likely to be seriously involved in the Church, except on the baptismal lists.
4) Pogroms in Russia against Jews, Roman soldiers in Constantinople pillaging and burning, and Serbians wiping out Ethnic Albanians/Muslims are excellant copy and real attention getters, but are a far cry from the orinal message of “love your neighbor as yourself” and we know that. The knuckle draggers on Hamras Street would have benifited greatly from a serious ass-kicking on the spot. It’s too bad they didn’t get one! Write on their signs with a sharpie! Indeed. Bedwetters…

Feb 26, 2009 - 1:56 pm 9. Captain Ramen:

I thought we were all Nazis now?

It just goes to show us that most people are cowards. Why does it take a Westerner with questionable judgment to stand up to these Nazi vermin? The Lebanese people need to find their collective stones and stand up to the SSNP. I doubt that Hez will come to their rescue.

Feb 26, 2009 - 2:29 pm 10. RWE:

Now just think about this, folks. In the U.S. the Nazis are jokes, the guys who do pratfalls on Hogan’s Heroes. One of them can do the work of three grown men if their names are Moe, Larry, and Curly. They are losers who would come off second best in a pitched battle with the Kiwanis or Lion’s Clubs. You can kinda understand Hitchen’s attitude.

But elsewhere in the world, in Lebanon and Syria, Nazis (Or Social Nationalists, Saznis?) are real thugs who have real power.

What is that saying about Conservatives being liberals who have been mugged?

Feb 26, 2009 - 2:43 pm 11. NahnCee:

Wondering what Totten meant when he said he’s got his own thugs on speed-dial now.

Feb 26, 2009 - 4:36 pm 12. PA Cat:

Ashen–

I agree with Mongoose– BHO is much worse than Carter.

Feb 26, 2009 - 4:46 pm 13. geoffgo:

Carter was confused and misguided, and…
BHO isn’t; he’s on track t lead us straight down.

Feb 26, 2009 - 4:55 pm 14. Tony:

Ahhh, getting jumped in a street fight, brings back memories of my childhood in dear old Philadelphia.

Hitchens sounds pretty tough, I don’t know what he was bitching and moaning about when he wrote that article about waterboarding being torture. After all, he did go back for seconds on the waterboarding. Who goes back for seconds, voluntarily, of torture?

Hey – sorry to go OT – but this is too rich to pass up:
U.S. Ready to Respond to N.Korea Missile
In an exclusive interview with ABC News’ Martha Raddatz, Adm. Timothy Keating, head of the U.S. Pacific Commands, said that the military is prepared to shoot down any North Korean ballistic missile — if President Obama should give the order.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=6965611&page=1

Feb 26, 2009 - 5:15 pm 15. buddy larsen:

Nightmare of nightmares, “if”.

Feb 26, 2009 - 5:47 pm 16. Doug:

From what I understand, everyone in the Syrian Nazi party will be counted twice, in the next Census.

Feb 26, 2009 - 5:54 pm 17. joe buzz:

test

Feb 26, 2009 - 5:56 pm 18. joe buzz:

This is really strange but I have repeatedly tried to post a link to a site called theobamafourm dot com but when I try to post the url on this site and others to post does not go through. Would someone please go there and try to copy and paste the link here?
thanks,

Feb 26, 2009 - 6:00 pm 19. Doug:

Resistance is Futile, Joe.
Google has taken control.
Freedom is Slavery.

Feb 26, 2009 - 6:09 pm 20. Tony:

Buddy, Doug – what’s the odds of President Obama going Dr. Strangelove?

Feb 26, 2009 - 7:14 pm 21. jim in virginia:

As I recall it took at least a year- maybe even longer- before most Americans lost faith in Carter. Obama has had a month. He is on Commerce secretary #3; the Dems are upset that he may leave 50,000 troops in Iraq; and even Chrissy Matthews is starting to question him. The fall will come fast. Trouble is, Reid and Pelosi are clueless too so we’ll have no leadership until at least January 2011.
The Democrat budget plan assumes huge increases in domestic spending. What happens if we suddenly need guns instead of butter?

Feb 26, 2009 - 7:21 pm 22. Alaska Paul:

The sign that started the whole Hitchens fiasco may have needed defacing, but Hitchens showed poor judgment and survival instinct in doing so. You have to think of the consequences of such an act. What are you trying to accomplish besides feel good? There are people there that would just as soon slit your throat than look at you.

You did not go down The Falls Road in Belfast during the Troubles shouting, “Up the UVF!” It would be suicide.

Neither do you wander into such an area and call attention to yourself. Hitchens is lucky to be alive. I hope that he learned his lesson.

Feb 26, 2009 - 7:26 pm 23. Doug:

OT,
Buddy missed this video, maybe others did also.
I find it stunning.
Webvideo – Ford’s most advanced assembly plant operates in rural Brazil
…and the UAW won’t let them duplicate it here.
(Workers look a whole lot more alert and healthy than the fatasses @ the soon to be shuttered Saturn Plant)

Feb 26, 2009 - 7:33 pm 24. Lifeofthemind:

Carter dreadful as he was, and he really was, did fund programs for strategic modernization that bore fruit under Reagan. BHO is emptying the pipeline. He is ensuring our long term strategic decline. A reduction in end strength personnel numbers hurts because it can make us unable to respond to a crisis and it reduces the institutional pool of knowledge needed to train future warriors but that can be overcome. Given the lead times needed to develop major weapons systems and new technologies Obama’s evisceration of the Pentagon’s procurement plans will leave us crippled for decades to come. Whoever becomes President in 2016 will likely face a world at war and will not have the tools to meet his responsibilities.

Even in the 1940s some weapons that magically appeared when the Arsenal of Democracy ramped up had been designed and planned for 5 years or more. Now for ships, aircraft and major ground combat systems it takes 15 years or more to get a response to a need into production. Attempting to speed that up with systems that are vastly more complicated than the equivalents of 70 years ago will only increase the probability of fraud waste and failure.

Feb 26, 2009 - 8:57 pm 25. Doug:

Obama projects a budget for the 2010 fiscal year of nearly $3.6 trillion.

Departing from the free market orthodoxy of his predecessor, George W. Bush, Mr. Obama would aggressively use the government’s powers of spending and taxation to push the private market in new directions.

That means the US Government is going to be spending twice its revenue. It is a social putsch. The deficit will be 12.3 percent of GDP. Government spending will be 27.7% of GDP and revenue 15.4% of GDP. The bureaucracy to do that, and the government union jobs created to service this will be impossible to dismantle.

All of this is dependent on how and who will finance this colossus.
I smell blood.

– Deuce
—
What Deuce does not understand is Barry’s commitment to fiscal responsibility.
Later.
Honest.

Feb 26, 2009 - 9:03 pm 26. Doug:

The $500 Million Ship

Feb 26, 2009 - 9:06 pm 27. chuck:

I’d clusterbomb the block…

Rule #1, start with adequate means. Hitch didn’t have an air force backing him up. Folks from rough backgrounds can realistically judge their chances and they don’t have romantic notions about the power of the felt tip pen. They will fight, but they also know when to run. And Hitch isn’t a young man, I doubt that he has the strength and endurance of a twenty year old. Picking a fight when you don’t know the neighborhood is just foolish bravado.

Feb 26, 2009 - 9:30 pm 28. ag:

Re #2. I completely concur.

Feb 26, 2009 - 9:35 pm 29. Paul Milenkovic:

When the subject of Hitch came up, I got the response “Oh, the arrogance of an American in a foreign country” to which I replied “The man is a left-wing Brit who only agrees with conservatives with respect to the GWOT.”

As to defacing a swastika, one has to remember that England faced the wrath of the Nazis too, and for a British person to act out as Hitch did has to be taken into account.

But to do this in a Middle Eastern country embroiled in civil war? Yes Hitch has a personal thing about swastikas, but they had them, you know, in Hitler’s Germany, and I am still talking pre-war Germany, don’t you think that if you defaced a swastika back in the day you would get stomped by some Brown Shirts?

But that the Brown Shirts were Prava Slavni Lebanese, sometimes a person has to repudiate one’s co-religionists. The Prava Slavni Serbs may have done many bad things, but for gosh sakes, they weren’t displaying swastikas. For all they did or were accused of doing, they regard themselves as anti-Nazis, and a friend who follows these things tells me the Serbs received moral support from the right-wing faction in Israel, the Aric Sharon Party.

After all the Russians went through from the Nazi onslaught, for all the Serbs suffered at the hand of the Nazis, for what the Germans did in occupied Greece, if there are some Prava Slavni of any ethnicity displaying swastikas (hurricane my foot), they need to be condemned, repudiated, ex-communicated (yes, a Prava Slavni priest can refuse you communion and one priest in town won’t give you communion if you are a jerk), spit upon and subject to whatever humilation one can think of.

A certain other religion can look the other way when professed adherents do the unspeakable, but by golly I won’t stand for this and I earnestly hope the Russians, Greeks, Serbs, Ethiopians (also victims of Fascism) rise up and stomp these traitors to their faith back.

Feb 26, 2009 - 9:49 pm 30. Lifeofthemind:

The lazy game of attacking the Pentagon budget is always done this way. First Congress mandates a series of expensive and conflicting operational demands. Second Congress makes clear to the Pentagon that they will have to meet their future needs with fewer active programs since building more single issue platforms would mean running more programs. Also more less capable platforms would mean that each would face a greater risk of sustaining loss in combat. The financial cost would go down but the human risk would increase. So Congress at that stage orders the Pentagon to design fewer more expensive platforms, to “save money” and “protect the troops.” Then Congress cuts the number of end units to be purchased in order to “save money.” This increases the cost per unit that is then planned for. Remember the cost of much of the design work is allocated to the units eventually purchased. The reduction in numbers planned for usually happens more than once. The redesign and rebidding of the program delays it by at least 5 years. Along the way various design changes are earmarked or otherwise inserted into the program. Guaranteed that Senator Byrd and Congressman Murtha have a go at it along the way. Congress then explodes in fury at the unexpected surging cost of the program. Thumb sucking articles are written pointing out that the proposed system is now to expensive to ever risk in combat. The NY Times or Bill Moyers report that a manager once had a sexual harassment complaint. The program is delayed for an extra 5 years in response to requirements arising from a Quadrennial review. More outside studies are produced arguing that the program is now an expensive dinosaur that does not meet anticipated future strategic needs. After billions have been spent building one or two prototypes the program is canceled. Various officials and politicians announce that vast sums have been saved.

Feb 26, 2009 - 9:51 pm 31. buddy larsen:

Doug, no wonder they’re closing that Saturn plant –jeez wot a commute, halfway across the solar system. Anyhoo, search [ u.s. farmers in brazil ] or just look at this article. Tough kids. i think we’re living too long –that’s why those young folks are down there –mom & dad are gonna work the home place in Iowa ’til they’re 80.

Tony, that question keeps me up nights. A detective would want to ask some pointed questions of a surprisingly small list of suspects. Some crazy stuff going on, subsurface until last August. Just looking at the present moment, a hundred billion a day evaporating while we <imexplicably play Hamlet with a few banks. The scuttle valves are wide open, who knows how deep Chicago reaches into the globular pits –or is reached from them. Worst case, one might speculate, a ‘plant’, a foreign agent, could play it by ear and (mouthing platitudes about the poor all the way) escort the Dollar to the graveyard, along with enough of the country’s wealth, power (military esp) and confidence to basically create an updated 15th century new world for the old to exploit. Could he jam military gears all the way to the ultimate, a free first strike for say a now-or-never Kremlin? No impeaching, either, not without the messiah and the race insult creating a thousand ACORN-orchestrated rodney king riots. So if he was sent, the senders are clever, they have win/wins set up everywhere in the field. When you think about it, the wonder would be if we went through history without the ‘other’ making such an attempt –it’s murphy’s law, “If It Can, It Will”. It’d be very interesting to know what Bernie Madoff (among others) knows.

Feb 26, 2009 - 9:54 pm 32. buddy larsen:

It’s just mother nature. a thing is closed or open, and if open, things go in and out.

Feb 26, 2009 - 10:03 pm 33. Lifeofthemind:

@buddy larsen
It’s just mother nature. a thing is closed or open, and if open, things go in and out.

That’s what She said.

Feb 26, 2009 - 10:13 pm 34. Doug:

IN-N-OUT FOUNDATION

Feb 26, 2009 - 10:23 pm 35. buddy larsen:

in you window

Feb 26, 2009 - 10:41 pm 36. Alexis:

Whatever else can be said about Christopher Hitchens, I’d take him as an ally before Eric Holder on any day. Somehow, I doubt that Eric Holder would have defaced a Nazi poster if he had had the chance. For that matter, I doubt EH would have even bothered to talk back to any Nazis (whether white Nazis or black Nazis, and believe me, there are some…) if there had been any of them in his vicinity.

Feb 26, 2009 - 11:03 pm 37. NahnCee:

“The sign that started the whole Hitchens fiasco may have needed defacing, but Hitchens showed poor judgment and survival instinct in doing so. You have to think of the consequences of such an act.”

What would you say, Alaska Paul, to the guy who said “damn the torpedo’s — full speed ahead!”? Would you counsel him to be more careful and to think about falling back and/or submitting?

Doubtless that’s also what you’d tell the commander who replied “Nuts!” when ordered to surrender by American enemies.

I applaud Hitchens and his stance on these things. And to those who think that a Nazi poster celebrating the death of Israeli soldiers is just a “political poster” and not to be tampered with, or that one should never do a crazy thing in the name of honor, I really have to question your own sense(s) of responsiblity.

Feb 26, 2009 - 11:25 pm 38. Doug:

Tony,
What will you do when Putsch comes to shove?

Feb 26, 2009 - 11:27 pm 39. Doug:

NahnCee,
Hard to think of anything that would top that Italian guy who ripped off his hood and ripped into the folks preparing to behead him.

Feb 26, 2009 - 11:29 pm 40. Doug:

Finally, we get FAIRNESS!
Obama’s Budget Plan Sweeps Away Reagan Ideas
The budget proposals seek to reverse the rapid increase in economic inequality over the last 30 years.

Feb 27, 2009 - 12:30 am 41. SpeakEasy:

Re: Ashen: How do we get the military to back us, since they are us?

Stay true to and fight for the strict interpretation and survival of our constitution and you can never be on the wrong side of our military. We have all sworn to protect and defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic. We take that oath pretty seriously.

Feb 27, 2009 - 2:53 am 42. Habu:

Interesting comments

Feb 27, 2009 - 6:38 am 43. davidt:

Imagine what would happen if you defaced an Obama poster in South Chicago.

Feb 27, 2009 - 9:59 am 44. Dave D.:

..Well, NahnCee, David Farragut and Anthony McAuliffe were military commanders in battle, not obese, alcoholic loudmouths living out their warrior fantasies at deadly peril to their companions. Neither you or 1:53 get to actually indulge your clusterbomb ( or felt pen ) fantasies either. I learned to keep my paws off other peoples stuff early on. F’ing with other peoples politics or their property will rightfully get you a thumping. It always has. You two may think it’s ok because you have no skin in the game. Christopher found out different. Hitch makes his living by scribbling and chin music. I hope he learned his lesson about indulging his inner teenage vandal, but I doubt it.

Feb 27, 2009 - 10:32 am 45. NahnCee:

Dave D – I doubt it too. He’s genetically programmed to be a hero and do stupid stuff. You aren’t.

Feb 27, 2009 - 11:12 am 46. Alaska Paul:

Re: #37 NahnCee
What would you say, Alaska Paul, to the guy who said “damn the torpedo’s — full speed ahead!”? Would you counsel him to be more careful and to think about falling back and/or submitting?

Hutchens was wandering about in a hostile and potentially lethal neighborhood to him. The person who said that quote you mentioned, Rear Admiral David G. Farragut, was on a mission, actively fighting the enemy. He made the decision to put himself in harm’s way and fight. He had the assets and the plan. Even though I am armed and take advantage of concealed carry permits and laws, I do not go trolling down in the ‘hood for homies and drug dealers to pick a fight with.

I admire Hutchens stand against the symbol of fascism. I do not admire his his lack of judgment in this instance. He needlessly put himself and his friends and associates in a potentially lethal situation because he did think the whole thing through and consider the consequences in a lawless neighborhood. There is a time for everything, and that was a time for not being stupid. Pick and choose your battles.

Have you ever had someone pull a pistol on you, shoot at you or threaten you with a knife? Every been around a mob gone apesh*t? You think and you pick your battlespace. This is not some stupid game. The price of a screwup is death. Think about it.

Feb 27, 2009 - 12:42 pm 47. the reader Basil:

Nahncee,Nahncee, I’m glad you were not with Chris Hitchens! I’m thinking you would have gotten roughed up for nothing, too!!

Let’s have done with comparing these three hosers with real warriors. These jokers were on a day-trip into the ‘hood’, with no plan or objective and when confronted by a facsimile of a swastika, the most enflammable of the bunch decides to vandalize a sign.
It is my opinion that he hoped to get out without being noticed or harrassed.

I could have a certain measure of sympathy for a guy that would calmly inform his useless hangers-on that he was about to make a scene and that for their own benefit, they should probably move on down the block and wait. He then hails a cab, tosses the driver out, runs down the sign post and then proceeds to give the general populace within earshot a lecture on the efficacy of freedom in general and the downside of Fascism in particular, until he gets either the approval of the crowd, or a serious beating!!!
I would have even been inclined to give him a hand!!! Now that’s my kind of guy!

Please! Chris is not a hero for writing profanity on a psuedo-swastika with a marker any more I would be if I wrote “”F— the Union” on some steel-workers bumpersticker or defaced an Obama-Biden yard sign. Let’s promote adult behaviour, and ignore the childish stuff.

Feb 27, 2009 - 2:31 pm 48. Orphaned Son of Liberty:

Lifeofthemind @ #30 begins: The lazy game of attacking the Pentagon budget is always done this way.

LotM! That’s excellent! An exile from the DoD contractor business myself, its one good reason I gave up the noble pursuit of building better weapons of mass destruction. Perfidious bastards! My current vocation is not threatened everytime congress is in session, or at least no more than we are all collectively threatened at present. Anyways, bravo LotM.

Feb 27, 2009 - 4:50 pm 49. Michael J. Totten:

Basil: Let’s have done with comparing these three hosers with real warriors. These jokers were on a day-trip into the ‘hood’,

I don’t know who the hell you are, but I’m a writer you used to have an apartment in that “hood.” Returning there is not a “day trip” for me.

Believe it or not, it’s a nice place, and the locals aren’t too happy about who moved in with Hezbollah when they came in with their guns blazing last May.

Feb 27, 2009 - 5:12 pm 50. the reader Basil:

Mike Totten; of course you don’t know me. I’m a nobody. Thats beside the point.
In comparing your walk-in-the-park gone awry to the confrontation Admiral Faragut faced, my description is valid. Defacing an sign in a nice neighborhood doesn’t make one a hero, which is the point I was trying to impress on Nahncee. It’s just asking for trouble.

Feb 28, 2009 - 3:40 pm 51. Lifeofthemind:

@Michael J Totten,
Thank you Sir for providing us with the vicarious satisfaction of seeing the complacently snarky publicly slapped. Woody Allen’s best moment (leaving aside “I practice a lot on my own” and setting aside issues like pederasty and incest, but I digress) was when he pulled Marshall McCluhan from behind the signboard to deflate the windbag in Annie Hall. We all dream of witnessing such moments.

Please comment here more often.

Feb 28, 2009 - 5:41 pm 52. Lifeofthemind:

@Orphaned Son of Liberty,
Extravagant bow*
Your servant Sir.

Feb 28, 2009 - 5:45 pm 53. Lifeofthemind:

To be clear I also questioned Mr Hitchens judgement and expressed concern about his putting his companions in danger but when people applaud Hitchens willingness to challenge the nazis without his dissolving in self pity after being beaten I think it is poor form to criticize them for doing so. If Mr Hitchens companions, who were there and were placed in harm’s way, choose to fault him then that is a different matter.

To my mind after someone you know gets a beating under such circumstances a gentleman responds by offering a clean towel, a dry martini, and a subdued inquiry “Was that wise?”

Feb 28, 2009 - 5:52 pm 54. Lifeofthemind:

Upon further consideration I think that the above mentioned expression of concern could elicit one of two proper responses.
1) “No, and I apologize.” The apology being for causing his friends any worry or grief.
2) “No, but it was worth it.” In that case a friend accepts that and does not feel the same need to have expressed worry, even though it is assumed, or expect an apology for having been made to do so.

In both cases the issue of the risk that companions were exposed to by not being warned in advance is a separate topic.

Feb 28, 2009 - 9:23 pm 55. Michael J. Totten:

Basil: Defacing an sign in a nice neighborhood doesn’t make one a hero

I’m a writer, not a “hero.” And I didn’t deface that sign.

I’m a nobody.

A nobody with reading comprehension problems.

Mar 1, 2009 - 9:14 pm 56. phil g:

If I were going to hang out with a hot head and big mouth like Hitchens in a dangerous place, I’d certainly make sure that I was acquainted with some nasty fighting/self defense tactics and in physical condition to use them. I can’t believe three guys can’t knock off what’s described as gaunt when their very lives appeared to depend on it. I know I wasn’t there but good lordy, a mere white belt level training in a real fighting system such as Choi Kwang Do would have provided enough capability to take the guy’s knee out or bust him effectively in the head. From reading this account it sounds like the hesitation to counter attack was more from a lack of know how and confidence in executing an effective punch or kick than fear of his gang of thugs. One good strike and you could have been off in a taxi to safety with Mr. Hitchens in much better health.

Mar 1, 2009 - 9:23 pm 57. Dave D.:

…Yes NahnCee, few men are hero’s and gentlemen a-bed throughout the world shall think themselves accursed that they were not there, and hold their manhood cheap while any speaks that marked with Him upon Saint Hitchens Day.
..I can see how a young girl could be dazzled by those few, those felt tipped few……
..I just can’t see how you fell for it.

Mar 1, 2009 - 10:17 pm 58. buddy larsen:

felt=tipped few…St Hitchens Day –now THATs funny!

Mar 2, 2009 - 6:46 am 59. Tony:

#38 Doug What will you do when Putsch comes to shove?

You mean, after I run out of ammo? Why go to the sword, javelin and bayonet, of course. And after that, to the night sticks and and then stones. Assuming I can’t run away in the first place.

Mar 2, 2009 - 3:53 pm

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