88 Comments

1. Kinuachdrach:

Emigration would not solve problem, since that plump British baby would be somewhere else eating part of the planet’s food supply — and producin CO2 as well.

No, this is a job for Stalin’s heirs.

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:06 am 2. Nomenklatura:

At least Porritt does have a sense of his own uselessness and superfluity. Plus, it’s only human for him to try to turn that into a virtue the rest us should emulate, and let’s face it, in that effort his options are limited. Hence his current proposal.

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:06 am 3. vb:

Couldn’t they cite the Bard? “The first thing we do, lets kill all the lawyers.” That should dampen the enthusiasm of pols everywhere.

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:09 am 4. buddy larsen:

oh, i think Pol Pot, Kinuachdrach. Absolutely no drain whatsoever of planetary rsources, in fact the erstwhile ‘persons’ became high-quality fertilizer via the mere application of a simple club.

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:11 am 5. Rupert Fiennes:

Well, primary cause of population growth in the UK is immigration, so we’ll have to stop that. Oh, hang on, haven’t the left been accusing anyone who objected to mass immigration of racism?

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:11 am 6. blert:

Just how many Nazi notions must come back to haunt us?

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:20 am 7. Habu:

I have always felt leaders should be out front on issues they present. Hang him first.

Not only in Britain but in the USA, who elects these people? How do they gain traction, especially after your Pols Pots that Buddy mentioned, or Mao,Stalin,Hitler who aren’t that far removed from our memory.

If allowed the writ I would gladly hang the fellow myself.

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:27 am 8. RWE:

Socialists focus on what people consume.

Capitalists focus on what people produce.

I have little doubt that a British citizen produces far more wealth than an African one. Of course, that does not include people like Porritt.

The wonderful thing about the Global Warming Scam (GWS) is that it endorses the Socialist viewpoint by saying that “production” is bad.

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:28 am 9. weSwinger:

The culture of Death reveals itself as the Nazis did: quisling bureaucrats following orders. What is our quota of forced sterilizations this week? Who gets put on the elimination list?

What will come after Sustainability?

Will any of the British people work up the energy to protest?

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:39 am 10. coisty:

Yet the Brown government rejected the recent House of Lords report that called for less immigration. ZaNuLabour believes cutting immigration is racist!

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:47 am 11. Clioman:

This planet would be such a wonderful place to live if it weren’t for all these filthy humans everywhere…something simply MUST be done. /s

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:50 am 12. CatoTheShorter:

More of the same from the culture of death. But of course they won’t take the next logical leap and cut off health care, start a war, etc.

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:50 am 13. In the Industry:

They’re just trying to find a good use for their talent for making life not worth living.

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:09 am 14. Jrod:

Jonathon Porritt should demonstrate conviction to his words by killing himself. Think globally, act locally, right?

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:10 am 15. Fat Man:

Gaia is hungry. Gaia is thirsty. Gaia wants sacrifice. Gaia wants babies.

Build a temple to Gaia and feed her babies, slake her thirst with blood.

Porritt, the high priest, will flay the victims and make proper vestments from their skins, jewlery from their bones.

We can only hope Porritt starts with his own family and those of the other believers.

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:13 am 16. rrpjr:

A “more permanent solution.” It’s hard for me lately not to retch when I read the news and worse listen to the Left in its inescapable ubiquity and ugliness.

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:20 am 17. Marie Claude:

too funny, may-be they have enough to watch people with Charlie’s face

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:22 am 18. blert:

When macro-meddling underpins your ivory tower such absurdities leak from your dream world.

Notions that X level of population will solve the intractable nature of man are derived from a mental disorder whereby the whiz brain is imbued with hyper magical thinking.

The only none solution is medication and isolation from the general population. A Thorazine drip may be appropriate to stabilize the afflicted and to save society.

Relevant examples of meglo-grandiosity show a horrific outcome if not treated early: Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Maximilien Robespierre, Julius Caesar… the list is frightful.

When you give intellectuals government grants/ stipends so that they can come up with the grand unified theory of every thing wrong… Then this is what you get.

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:29 am 19. Blaine:

I think Richard is right “Head-scratcher that one.” I read articles like this and I really can not grasp the concept. You think maybe this then no that won’t work, maybe that no that won’t work.
After a couple of minutes you put it down then come back to it and still nothing. A person comes up with this leap of an idea and I look and can not see the landing and I wonder what I am missing Maybe it is just my puddin head.

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:42 am 20. Blaine:

Sorry for the delay in not putting this with the previous post. Sometimes when I read things like this I think of Jim Jones and Guiana. A brilliant plan and one that worked for awhile until reality burst in and then it totally collapsed. If an idea like this gains traction, its collapse would be a tale for the centuries.

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:46 am 21. MikeO:

Irony.

It’s really odd when you think about it: The left have a pattern of hurling accusations of their own most defining sins onto their ideological opponents. Could it be also that the actions they take when in power indicate the only effective way of combating them?

These collectivists and death cultists following in the footsteps of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot are the ones most in need of “reeducation” by wood shampoo or acute lead poisoning. Imagine a world without them. Or even better: Imagine a world where others who might otherwise be swept-up into the collectivist death cults have Porritt’s head mounted publicly on a stake as an example of why it is not such a good idea.

Perhaps the left’s rabid hatred of Pinochet stems from the successes he built on his understanding of this truth?

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:49 am 22. Armeggedon Rex:

Ladies and Gentlemen:
Throughout almost the entire developed world, native born populations are falling. The only reason the U.S. still has population growth is because the people who immigrate add population and tend to have much larger families on average than native born Americans. In the last several decades, Hispanics have gone from a few percent of the overall population to 15%-25% of the U.S. population (depending on whose numbers you believe), displacing African Americans as the largest minority in the U.S. Luckily, Mexican Americans do assimilate, albeit slowly, and come from a hybrid European / Native American / Catholic background. Members of all of these groups have already been widely assimilated into U.S. society & culture with some give and take on all sides.

In Europe, the situation is even more pronounced. In Spain, France, Italy, and several other continental nations, the number of unassimilated Muslim, infantry age, young men will likely soon outnumber the native born, infantry age, young men. It will be interesting to see what happens then!

My point is that nearly all the planets population growth in the last decade or two has been from members of non-western cultures. Westerner culture members populations have been in decline, and in fact, places like Korea and Mexico itself are seeing population growth stabilizing or diving as they approach first world prosperity and assimilate first world ideas and attitudes.

If the population Nazis want to commit genocide to reduce human population, they need to start in the third world, among the poor and backward. The “First World” peoples are on track to half their numbers in the next 50 years as a matter of choice, in thrall to prolonged adolescent avoidance of reality and responsibility.

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:52 am 23. Heh:

What is surprising, at least for me, is how many of the readers actually agree with the idea. Check this out:

About time somebody realised we are in this mess because of over population……….What a joke when say we need more houses, no we don’t, we need less people, we are a blight, a parasite, a virus on this unfortunate planet and the creatures on it that don’t want for anything other than to survive.

Ian Nicholson, Builth Wells, Powys

Mar 24, 2009 - 10:02 am 24. Barry 0351:

All those who agree shoot themselves NOW!
All those who don’t agree go have sex and make some babies.

Mar 24, 2009 - 10:12 am 25. Habu:

This guys a bit late but is using the carbon fallacy Most of you will remember this pronunciamento from 1968 by Paul Erlich a demi -god of the Left at that time.

Wiki
“The Population Bomb (1968) is a book written by Paul R. Ehrlich. A best-selling work, it predicted disaster for humanity due to overpopulation and the “population explosion”. The book predicted that “in the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death”, that nothing can be done to avoid mass famine greater than any in the history, and radical action is needed to limit the overpopulation. History proved Ehrlich wrong, as the mass starvations predicted for the 1970s and 1980s never occurred, apart from in Africa.”

Instead we’re fighting mass tonnage as people look like Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade balloons.

Mar 24, 2009 - 10:14 am 26. Habu:

Does anyone know where I can get a chia head obama? He’s perfect for it.

Mar 24, 2009 - 10:18 am 27. Gordon:

Jonathon Swift’s ‘Modest Proposal’–that’s the answer, applied only to govt bureaucrats’ offspring.

Mar 24, 2009 - 10:20 am 28. jerryofva:

Socialism like its brother Nazism and its daughter Eco-ism proclaim the desire for a perfect world. Perfection requires the elimination of imperfection. What good is it to be a socialist if you can’t commit mass murder?

Mar 24, 2009 - 10:39 am 29. 49erDweet:

Care for a spot of tea and some Soylent Green wafers?

Mar 24, 2009 - 10:53 am 30. Charles:

15. Fat Man:

Gaia is hungry. Gaia is thirsty. Gaia wants sacrifice. Gaia wants babies.

Build a temple to Gaia and feed her babies, slake her thirst with blood.
…………..
If you don’t believe in the sacrifice of the God Man Jesus then your god will require human blood.

Mar 24, 2009 - 11:10 am 31. Kevin:

I also wonder whether Britain’s Muslims would volunteer to contribute some of their own (growing) numbers, or whether they would let the secularists do it, thus increasing the percentage of British citizens who are Muslim.

Mar 24, 2009 - 11:18 am 32. JMH:

“No politician in a democracy is going to address population control – it’s political suicide.”

If these dolts would just put their money where their (large) mouths are and commit real suicide (I’m sure they could find an environmentally freindly way to off themsleves) then nobody would have to worry about political suicide.

Put alas, it is ever so. P.J. O’Rourke captured the real sentiment of these monsters with the subtitle of his chapter on population control (I think it was in Parliament of Whores): “Just enough of me, way too much of you.”

Blert asks: Just how many Nazi notions must come back to haunt us?

All of them. Because they aren’t just Nazi notions, they’re the notions of uncivilized tribes living in a state of nature, worshiping shamans.

Habu asks: Not only in Britain but in the USA, who elects these people? How do they gain traction, especially after your Pols Pots that Buddy mentioned, or Mao,Stalin,Hitler who aren’t that far removed from our memory.

Because the people who vote for them think “it can’t happen here.” Or rather, they never contemplate the notion that it could happen here. Or happen to them anyway. Really there is an entire class of educated idiots who don’t understand consequences. They think they can do or say anything and it won’t matter. If it feels good, do it. That’s their motto.

Mar 24, 2009 - 11:45 am 33. Quelle:

Soylent Green anybody?

I think we’re beginning to get a clearer picture of what “green” means in this wonderful green movement!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohLaBIB61Ic

Mar 24, 2009 - 11:49 am 34. buddy larsen:

if we consume more than we produce, how come we don’t have die-offs?

Mar 24, 2009 - 11:50 am 35. Mike Anderson:

Habu: check it out at http://www.chia.com/

Mar 24, 2009 - 11:54 am 36. ThatChukGuy:

It never ceases to amaze that what ever plan liberals come up with it all boils down to how much ‘other people’ need to sacrifice to make the world a better place. Whether it is money, time or life itself the solution always boils down to what ‘those people’ need to give up and live without. If you are not willing to give it freely, well we will just have to take it forcibly for the ‘greater good’.

This will end badly if not checked for reality does not care about their theories of utopia.

Mar 24, 2009 - 11:54 am 37. Foul Harold:

“Shafarevich begins with a question: How can we explain the remarkable fact that socialism, which criticizes society for its injustice and inequality, results in even greater inequality? How is it that a system which agitates for freedom has so consistently produced slavery on a massive scale? … This Shafarevich says, is the basic allure of Socialism; this is the secret of its seductive power and its driving force; it is nothing less than a deeply emotional, ecstatic urge toward self-destruction. The prospect of the utter annihilation of oneself and of mankind is precisely the attraction of Socialism, and possesses a subliminal motivating power far surpassing any rational economic argument. For Socialism is the final religion of the Theophobians, the God-haters; and God has told us of the inescapable psychological condition of those who deny Him: “He that sinneth against Me wrongeth his own soul; all they that hate Me love death.” (Proverbs 8:36)

http://freebooks.entrewave.com/freebooks/docs/a_pdfs/newslet/preface/03pref.pdf

Mar 24, 2009 - 11:56 am 38. Herb:

I think that all those in England who think these people are on to something should make their contribution to the saving of the planet, forthwith. It would make huge dent in the politician/bureaucrat/educator/helping trades which is the center of most of their current malaise.

If enough of them did that the gene pool over there would be a long way toward a restoration of England’s rightful place in the first tier of nations. The 20th Century was somewhere past a disaster for Albion. WWI and WWII eviscerated the leading classes and the socialists in the second half ran the remainder off.

Mar 24, 2009 - 11:59 am 39. Habu:

37. Foul Harold:
using tinyurl.com your address would have ended up this short:

http://tinyurl.com/d2s5br

or 25 letters down from 75..it’s eay to use, if you care to give it a try.

tinyurl.com

Mar 24, 2009 - 12:01 pm 40. vanderleun:

But… but…. the science is SOUND!

New Solution to Global Warming: Kill Your Children @ AMERICAN DIGEST

Paul Murtaugh, a statistician at Corvallis’ Oregon State University, claims that our carbon legacy isn’t just limited to our own emissions, but 50% of our children’s (The other parent gets the other 50%). And 25% of their children’s, and so on, and so on. He arrived at this estimate using math. — Mad Science: Your Child Causes Global Warming

Mar 24, 2009 - 12:02 pm 41. bob:

situational constitutionalism

George Will

That nails it. That’s what we’ve got.

Mar 24, 2009 - 12:06 pm 42. whiskey:

Wretchard –

Most people here do not get it. This is another instance of the Elite Yuppie class, which hates and fears ordinary White working/middle class people, wanting them erased from existence.

Working and Middle Class Whites are a constant threat to enter into the Yuppie Hipster and Elite class. Thus, they must be neutralized. Non-Whites are both “cool” and “authentic” and also seen as non-threats due to their “funny” ways and what is considered by Elite Yuppies as intractable social conditions.

Population Control = killing off threats to Yuppies. Who are basically working and middle class Whites. Always a threat to become rich and/or cool. And we can’t have that.

There. I’ve explained most of Western politics. It really is that simple.

Mar 24, 2009 - 12:20 pm 43. Ardsgaine:

If you don’t believe in the sacrifice of the God Man Jesus then your god will require human blood.

Then again, one might simply reject the morality of sacrifice completely.

Mar 24, 2009 - 12:23 pm 44. blert:

What we’ve got is a usurpation of the Constitution, period.

Mar 24, 2009 - 12:29 pm 45. Subotai Bahadur:

Yes, it is madness. And also yes, it IS the future, unless something drastic and terminal is done to those who espouse the ideologies ["Socialism, Nazi-ism, and Ecoism"]. #21 MikeO has it right. In the end it will come down to a literal life and death struggle. As I have said in other forums, when the formalities of conventional politics is abandoned by one side; the only recourse is brute force. Our political systems in the West are in the midst of their own Oktobyr 1917’s, April 1933’s, and April 17, 1975’s. The old order of consensual government is in the process of being swept away by various forms of deadly totalitarianism. Hell, here in the US last weekend, we had taxpayer funded [$4 Billion to ACORN] Brownshirts literally going door to door to “convince” people to pledge support to “Obama and his Program”. Names were taken, whether the answer was yes or no.

Do not put your total faith in the 2010 elections. They just might not occur.

#28 jerryofva and #32 JMH have the truth of the matter.

Subotai Bahadur

Mar 24, 2009 - 12:30 pm 46. Mike Sylwester:

The UK’s excess population can immigrate to the USA. We have an open-borders policy here. Anybody who can get into the USA — and keep in mind that any UK citizen can fly here without a visa — can stay as long as he likes and eventually acquire permanent residence and then citizenship.

It would be un-American for the Obama Administration to enforce any immigration restrictions.

Mar 24, 2009 - 12:35 pm 47. GerryP:

With population control freaks – just like everything else – FOLLOW THE MONEY. Once you start checking out where their funding comes from, it traces right back to the highest, richest elites, starting back when, with John D. Rockefeller Jr.

First these elites sponsored Social Darwinism, then eugenics, including some of the Nazi outfits. Then moved over to birth control outfits, then finally to Planned Parenthood. They financed abortion-supporting books, one of which influenced the Supremes in Roe v Wade. They sponsor the anti-immigration outfits. Their flunkies have eventually come to head all the related UN agencies, which have now qualified for money from the World Bank. Etc., etc.

Environmentalism is just their latest iteration. Their current chosen vehicle.

Just google it. Start with this article, at http://www.albatrus.org/english/lien_of_oz/one%20world%20government/eugenics_racism_population_control.htm.

Simply stated: the elites just don’t want all those people cluttering up their scenic spots. And they have invested a lot of time and money toward bringing that about. The useful idiots have filled out the ranks of activists for their projects, as usual. That about covers it.

(Sheesh! Doesn’t anyone check anything out anymore?)

Mar 24, 2009 - 12:42 pm 48. PA Cat:

Porritt’s parents must be so proud of him (that is, if he didn’t have them euthanized once they got past 65).

Mar 24, 2009 - 12:56 pm 49. Michael Hoskins:

A sideways comment.

In recent years anthropoligists have focused on an afro-centric theory of the evolution of man. This view arises from discoveries in the Great Rift Valley extending North South along the eastern side of Africa into the Sinai and eastern Mediterrean.

As is sciences want, theories are developed based on the information available. Tested, refined reinforced or rejected al la Kuhn’s normal science (paradigm) process.

Our fine, post-normal science friends desparately, I say again, desparately, want an Afro Centric world. From Bono and Angilina to the O, some have an unexplainable fasination with the place. (My long visit was less fullfilling).

Current anthropolical evidence is due largely to the convenience of a giant slit in the planets surface, making investigation at lower levels possible. Were the planet to open another cut, or existing cuts to be so carefully studied (Grand Canyon?) would the African theory hold?

All of this is to ask, why is it so important that Africa be asendent? Asia certainly has more to offer; having had and now rebuilding great civilizations. Is Asia no longer primitive enough?

Methinks there is a genetic longing amoung the self involved left to find peoples so primative and malleable that the great artist of Western (and modern Asian and radical Islam) liberal thought can mold them into “children of light”. Children of light, of course, completely enthralled with their creators. Or How to Raise Onself to Diety…Available to all who reject the real diety.

Oh, God…what happened to humility!

Mar 24, 2009 - 12:56 pm 50. Annoy Mouse:

God told man; “go forth and multiply”.

Man kills God.

Man becomes god.

God tells man; “stay here and decimate”.

God kills man.

Perfect.

Mar 24, 2009 - 1:08 pm 51. Habu:

We have talked of obama but my mind has begun to focus on Jacques Necker, Finance Minister to the King before and during the French Revolution. In February 1781 in a Compte rendu au Roi or report to the king, Necker noted the financial conditions that eventually lead to the French Revolution.

“The report stated that ordinary revenues in France were exceeding expenditure by over 10 million livres. The health of the accounts as reported in the Compte rendu boosted confidence among lenders and ordinary people, who saw Necker as a strong financial manager due to his prior experience as a banker; the report bolstered his reputation further. As a consequence, the French government was able to raise new loans to pay for the costs of continued involvement in the American War of Independence.

However, Necker’s reporting of the accounts obscured the financial problems which the country was facing: it did not report the extraordinary accounts, where the real cost of the war was to be found and which showed France in a significant deficit – between 1777 and 1781, Necker had raised 520 million livres in new loans. Had these been reported, lenders would have been unlikely to continue to lend money for the war.” (Albert Sorbel, The Fr. Rev,)

We have been at war for years now, our financial reporting, both public and private are salacious and lurid, lies and trickery, and we are now printing money faster than any time in history. Breakneck speed, although a hackneyed phrase is apt.

France had a revolution in a fully developed society, a model of the civilized world at the time. Don’t begin to think it can’t happen here.

Mar 24, 2009 - 1:16 pm 52. Tom Holsinger:

This is a self-solving problem. Everyone who makes such claims has volunteered to be “freed from life” (a term from Saberhagen’s Berserker series), and should be given what they want.

Mar 24, 2009 - 1:23 pm 53. Habu:

32. JMH:
A great answer to my question of who elects them. Thanks. Sometimes I can’t see the forrest for the trees.

Mar 24, 2009 - 1:24 pm 54. Triton'sPolarTiger:

@16 rrpjr

“the Left in its inescapable ubiquity and ugliness”

It IS monsterous, isn’t it…

One wonders if the powers-that-be in the UK would seek to include their muslims in this “reduction.”

Somehow, I doubt it.

I’m wondering if I’ll live to see the day that muslim women are regularly strung up on the hands of Big Ben…

Mar 24, 2009 - 1:27 pm 55. Habu:

35. Mike Anderson:

Man how can I thank you. Now my household can be PCC, Politically Chia Correct.

I’m going to use Afro blow out solution to get the man in his full native persona.

Mar 24, 2009 - 1:28 pm 56. PA Cat:

55 Habu

I hope you’ll get the matching Joe Biden Chia Pet.

Mar 24, 2009 - 1:37 pm 57. Walt:

Wretchard says to cull 30 million people would be a head scratcher, but doing so is really quite simple.

To cut population in half
Is so easy it makes me to laugh
To cut numbers in two
Here’s all that you do
You draw up a neat little graph
The Pakis will make quite a dent
In the numbers and when you have sent
All the Pakis back home
Or even to Rome
You’ll have hastened the welcome event
Now there’s others to rid of as well
And I have a solution to tell
All the foreigners who came
After King Alfred’s name
Was inscribed on the Westminster bell
Will be shipped out to places unknown
Where there’s nary a TV or phone
They’ll be happier and
When they’ve seen their new land
They’ll appreciate working alone
Only Angles and Saxons are left
But don’t think that the country’s bereft
Of the people who make
Clay stuff down by the lake
And of thatching we’re really quite deft

Mar 24, 2009 - 1:37 pm 58. JMH:

I wonder if civilization, or too much of it anyway, doesn’t inherently produce, in large numbers, a sort of low-level sociopath. People who don’t conceptualize others as fully human. People who, for all their blather about ecosystems, are completely incapable of seeing the world as an ecology. All they can see are the inputs and output that connect them to it – what goes on beyond is all black box and who cares.

A Tamerlane who orders a mountain of skulls be built is comprehensible. A monster, but at least he’s honest about it. He knows he’s killing people, and, well, that’s the idea. Kill your enemies, hear the lamentations of the women, etc. etc. And the honest part is that a Tamerlane knows if he ever loses, his skull will go into the next pile. Occupational hazard.

But a Porrit? Does he even realize what he’s saying? Does he (and his supporters) even realize that 30 million represents real, breathing human being with families, friends, hopes, dreams? Or does he just see them as surplus parts rattling around the black box he gets his food pellets from?

Pehaps a bumper sticker saying “Death to Sociopaths” would be a good idea.

Mar 24, 2009 - 3:05 pm 59. twobyfour:

“America, is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.”

– JV Stalin.

Mar 24, 2009 - 3:08 pm 60. jerry:

Many years ago (1970’s), I read a novel on where the Greens had control of the government over a couple generations and were requiring that the human population commit mass suicide. Under the gun, dig your own grave. Wear bio-degradable clothing. Pop the eco-friendly suicide capsule. Fall into the pit. Have another suicidal person fill in the grave. Then that suicidal person digs his/her grave. Repeat as needed to wipe out the entire population.

But some people didn’t want to die, but forgot why. They fought, killed the government ferociously, and won. But the post-apocalyptic national sport was to randomly select people to be dropped into a pit and for the spectators to launch mortar shells to kill them. The “winners” had become immune to morality. Society had degraded into “survival of the shittiest”.

I’d love to get a copy of that novel. Seems, so, Today!

Mar 24, 2009 - 3:15 pm 61. RWE:

Great quote, that was not supposed to be funny, from a serious article on Global Warming around 1991:

“Global Warming would not be a problem if all the people on the planet would just stop breathing for thirty minutes.”

Hard to argue with that logic. In fact, I cannot imagine a problem that would not be solved if that approach was used. World Peace would result, the peace of the graveyard.

This weekend we are supposed to shut off all our lights and other electric power uses for one hour. How about instead everyone who is worried about Global Warming just hold their breath for that hour. That would do more good than anything I could think of.

Mar 24, 2009 - 3:46 pm 62. bob:

Just out of curiosity, how does This Phenomenon fit into the theories about women, class, yuppies, big men, single moms, polygamy, working class whites, etc., etc. bandied about on these pages?

Mar 24, 2009 - 3:56 pm 63. Dr. Weevil » A “more permanent solution”?:

[...] Belmont Club links to a London Times story about the top ‘green’ adviser of Gordon Brown who wants to cut the population of the U.K. in half. He quotes a comment on the Times story which spells out some implications: “Just in case no one noticed, the article did not say that ’slowing growth’ was necessary. It said that ‘cutting the population’ was the necessity. So I ask this: Who goes and who decides? Is emigration an option, or is a more permanent solution to be recommended?” [...]

Mar 24, 2009 - 4:43 pm 64. JMH:

Bob,

The phenomenon you link to is a product of three things:

One, an education system without adult supervision (school administrators have little power to hire and fire, and as a consequence there are few competent administrators left). Any idiot or social misfit can get a job teaching now. Seriously, one of the women profiled was a “former exotic dancer.” In my dad’s day, there’s no way he would have ever hired a former exotic dancer to work in one of his schools.

Two, the, shall we say, Repression of Repression. The idea that a person should learn to control their libido is so Victorian. And the idea that a person who cannot control their libido in a public setting might have a problem is positively Neaderthal. In fact, a public libido, especially a deviant one, is to be celebrated. The fact that the human libido is one of our strongest motivators and can easily run out of control isn’t understood by our enlightened modernes.

Three, there are far more career opportunities to women these days. It’s not like the old days when, if a women wanted a career, she could be a nurse, a schoolteacher (er, marm), or a secretary. That led to an aftificially talented talent pool of teachers, nurses and secretaries. We’ve never really adjusted to account for openeing other professions up to talented women. Competent nurses and teachers are in short supply (computers sort of obsoleted a large number of secretaries, and “admins” can make up the rest). The talent pool these days is thin. Especially since men are genrally considered unfit to be around children by the PC brigades that run schools these days.

Mar 24, 2009 - 5:00 pm 65. 49erDweet:

RWE, I like that idea. Let’s push the plan that no matter where one lives, everyone believing in Global Warming should hold their breath for 60 minutes and the problem will be solved for at least another century. Now that’s a program we can all support!

Mar 24, 2009 - 5:18 pm 66. trangbang68:

Odd as this story seems ,it actually has widely been postulated in New Age circles for some time that large numbers of people need to be eliminated to usher in the golden age of enlightenment. The shamen state that those who can’t be enlightened must be eliminated. This would likely include Christians, Americans, white people (except for the enlightened ones who have given themselves Injun names, meat eaters, etc. Neo-Malthusian dopery flourishes.
Francis Crick and James Watson who discovered the DNA molecule made two statements. I can’t remember which one said which; they’re so smart a poor fool like me can’t keep up with their mental acumen. One said for the first 3 days of life the parents should have the option of killing their children if they don’t like what they got. (If the kid isn’t a lefty with a 95 mph fastball or able to do calculus). The other said everyone over 70 should be killed (except them no doubt, they’re too smart to be killed) Reading this stuff, it makes me understand why they got the Nobel Prize along with Yassir Arafat .Birds of the feather and all that.
This idea of offing excess people might sound strange now, but how strange will it sound when 2 or 3 taxpayers are asked to pay the Social Security of one fat old baby boomer. C’mon over here Gramps, here’s a hotshot of heroin. You can go out like Jimi and Janis, go to the big Woodstock in the Sky.

Mar 24, 2009 - 5:20 pm 67. trangbang68:

Drudge headline:
“Scalia a homophobe says Frank in interview”

Followup:

“Frank a homo says Trangbang on Belmont Club”

Mar 24, 2009 - 5:22 pm 68. Leo Linbeck III:

To shrink the enlarged population
Was the Gweenies steadfast avocation

So to this noble goal
They imposed state control

And prohibited plebe procreation.

— —

There once was a Brit named Porritt
For babies, he did not care a whit

“Friends, let’s end this pollution
With a final solution!”

Said the man with a head full of cobwebs.

— —

L3

Mar 24, 2009 - 5:25 pm 69. Lifeofthemind:

No logical contradiction here.
Porritt says there are to many humans. Objectively Porritt is inhuman and exempt from this stricture.

Mar 24, 2009 - 5:54 pm 70. JMH:

No logical contradiction here.
Porritt says there are to many humans. Objectively Porritt is inhuman and exempt from this stricture.

Y’know, the only real fault I can find with humans is they tend to produce too many Porritts. If we could cure humans of their Porritts, a large population wouldn’t be a problem.

Mar 24, 2009 - 6:33 pm 71. aaron:

why is die endlosung the only solution they ever come up with if they’re so smart?

Mar 24, 2009 - 6:35 pm 72. Overpopulated by 1 « Way Too Opinionated:

[...] by 1 By way2opinionated Via Belmont Club, a link to a Times Online article quoting adviser to Britain’s** PM Gordon Brown, Jonathon [...]

Mar 24, 2009 - 6:39 pm 73. fred:

This would be laughable but for the fact that Porritt seems to take himself seriously on this.

LOL! #14 Jrod. “Think globally, act locally” He’ll have to find a way to accomplish it without causing excess CO2 to be emitted. Cadavers do “let go” flatulence, among other things.

Mar 24, 2009 - 6:42 pm 74. 3Case:

“Welcome to the Monkey House”

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:56 pm 75. downtowndubai:

hey

last year 72,000 brits left the fair isles for better domains. keep it up GORDO.

Ramadan soon to be a national holiday ????

Mar 24, 2009 - 8:56 pm 76. Another Bob:

A child born in a western nation will consume more energy and produce more CO2 than one born in Africa, simply because the former lives in a technologically advanced society.

One of these is not like the other.

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:18 pm 77. MarkJ:

Methinks not a few British WWII veterans are now muttering, “If I’d known I was going to live in a fascist state anyway, I would have just surrendered to the Germans in 1940 and been done with it. At least I’d have had better beer and pastries.”

Unrelated Soviet-era joke:

Two Red Army vets are sitting on a park bench complaining about how their lives have turned out since the war. One finally mutters to his friend, “The way I feel right now, it’s a damn shame we defeated the fascists.” “Yes indeed,” his friend wistfully chimes in, “we could now be living like the Germans.”

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:31 pm 78. Richard Fernandez:

Just because nobody else has said it. “This … is … Sparta!”

Mar 24, 2009 - 9:54 pm 79. john lynch:

It seems to obvious to me that simply reducing the British Isles to the same level of poverty as Africa would have the same effect. And be easier. Just impose crushing taxation, abandon capitalism, and so forth.

Mar 24, 2009 - 11:49 pm 80. Surellin:

I see that J. Porritt has two daughters, the improvident scamp!

Mar 25, 2009 - 4:26 am 81. Ernie G:

“Soylent Green? Yes, sir, it’s on the shelf there, next to the Spotted Dick.”

Mar 25, 2009 - 7:30 am 82. Joe Doakes:

Use nationalized medicine to kill all the sick and infirm until only the young and healthy are left.

Mar 25, 2009 - 9:50 am 83. Beth:

I’m thinking Logan’s Run, actually.

Mar 25, 2009 - 8:03 pm 84. buddy larsen:

Beth/83: ahhh, yes –Jenny Aguilliar. ok i spelled ‘Jenny’ right –the other, hmm, dunno.

Mar 26, 2009 - 1:15 am 85. Morton Doodslag:

Is it too late for the First World to stop its insane messianic mission to “save” the third world from its entrenched poverty, ignorance, bad customs and societies???

The strain on global resources does not come from the less than 1 billion people who’ve created everything in the modern world worth having, but in the other 5 billion people that largely exist primarily because we’ve helped their populations explode beyond all sanity, and who now want to emulate our materialism without first embracing our values of industry and our systems of regulation and social contract.

What we have wrought in the 20th Century is the geometric explosion of inimical Third World populations through our altruistic interventions with our medicine, our engineering technology, our food and our money. Have we “won their hearts and minds?” I’d argue WE HAVE NOT. But our wealth and prowess has instilled in them a murderous jealousy, and a smoldering hatred because our systems are so superior to theirs in every way. Now we are confronted with a veritable tsunami of Third Worlders whose nations have not been transformed into blissful places to live — and while they aspire to our materialism in the West those minions from the Third World continue to adhere to their hideous and broken social norms which keep them (and will forever keep them) primitive, poor, and ignorant. This is best illustrated in the 1+ billion Muslims of the world who continue to lust after everything we have while continuing to believe that their Islam, the system which robs them of everything, is nevertheless a system which they must export to our dominions, and eventually impose on use through violence, intimidation, and mass murder.

Muslims are the nastiest manifestation of this thesis, but it’s also evident in the 20-30 million Mexicans who have taken over most of the cities and ALL of the southern regions of the USA. We now are doomed to perpetual far left policies to placate this ignorant horde and endless grievance identity politics in America. Never mind the fact that their arrival and sheer numbers will utterly destroy everything about America that was worth rampaging over our border in the first place to seize.

Our failure to procreate sufficiently when coupled with their explosive procreation and willingness to completely ignore our laws and customs guarantee that America will eventually look far more like bunghole Mexico than Mexico will ever look like well functioning America.

In a stunning display of unintended consequences, the West’s do-good messianism has come back to threaten our very existence.

Mar 26, 2009 - 12:48 pm 86. Gaffe Prices:

#85 Morton:

“Never mind the fact that their arrival and sheer numbers will utterly destroy everything about America that was worth rampaging over our border in the first place to seize.”

Aye, there the rub, Excellent synopsis, synthesis and deduction.

Mar 26, 2009 - 7:19 pm 87. buddy larsen:

here, let’s have a little folk music to play the old thread off the stage.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:30 am 88. buddy larsen:

riveting…as the two protagonists are climbing into their car to vacate the scene, one is asking the other “…still think you can control them?”

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:41 am

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