Letting the child go on its own does not mean that we have refused all assistance just let the child try to live on its own.

Under Obama there really is not much choice. He will not fight for any reason. The only reason he is fighting in Afghanistan is because the liberal left did not want to be constantly barraged by the GOP saying that they would not fight. So in order to justify it childish ranting on Iraq war like “Bush Lied and People died” they said that Osama Bin Laden came from Afghanistan so we should focus the war there. They never would accept that the jihadists flooded into Iraq to fight us and that was a better battleground. Fighting in Afghanistan had a lot of logistical difficulties. Plus if we secured Iraq as a strong ally we had influence on a large country that sat strategically in the center of the Middle East.

Now Obama is stuck with the war in Afghanistan, which is harder to succeed due to the fact the Taliban can slip back over the border into Pakistan, which were their creators. Afghanistan is a more backward country and their culture is more in tune with Islamic fundamentalist ideology so it easy for them to slid back into that thinking. Beside Afghans were ruled for a while by Taliban and they had not resisted much.

Pakistan is becoming FUBAR and in a few years if he survives Baitullah Mehsud will be the ruler in Pakistan. He has been a spectacularly successful military leader and he orchestrated the assassination of Bhutto.

AQ Khan was released from house arrest and report of Pakistan increasing it reserves of fissile material is a concern. Obviously the NK, Iran and Pakistan will start up the network of selling nuke tech. Even Saudi Arabia is frightened of Iran and no longer will trust the US to safeguard the Saudi ruling family so the family wants to buy nukes.

This recent test and missile launch could be the seller ways of showing off his wares to the new market of nuke tech. This tech was held back for a long time, but the insistent weakness of Europe, UN and US has let it out. Bolton managed to shove it back un the bag but once the left managed to pull Bush’s fangs the world was no longer scared and started to think of how to improve their situation. Obama walked right into this mess with his arrogant assumption that he could solve everything. So he will use his vagueness and doubletalk and walk away.

Really what can he do? He cannot impose sanctions by the UN with Russia and China having veto rights. The only things he can do is quietly reduce forces in SK. Move Navy assets close and approve sales of Aegis missile cruisers to Japan. Quiet negotiations and assistant with Japan to set up better missile defense and nuclear missile capability will encourage China to keep the lid on NK

As to the proliferation we had dragooned the world navies, especially Greece in searching ships and that is how we caught the Libyans. But many nations will not be as cooperative since the lefties will be inclined to publicize cooperation since they hate covert work. But if Obama is convince to keep that up we may keep the lid a little down and the shipment of materials to other countries.

Will the war between Koreas get hot again? I do not think so. That is not to NK interest but NK wants a little freedom to make deals and get in food and goods. He will demand that the UN increase imports allowed in the country in order to stop their testing. Until they need another test of course?

Everbody is at least as worried about NK collapsing as it attacking anybody & yet such a collapse is clearly inevitable some time. I suspect the best option would be for China to offer political asylum to the guilty when it goes & SK to offer to keep paying the salaries of NK soldiers & bureaucrats as long as they want & as long as they obey orders (exactly the tactic not used in Iraq) while they allow SK’s free market to operate in the north. This would absolutely require western countries to say in advance that they will not subsequently criticise China for not bringing refugees to trial & SK for not immediately running the North like a western liberal democracy.

The Bush you are looking at is behind us. I am afraid you are walking backwards, my friend. We will remain lost until we turn around and face the path ahead.

I’ll ask my wife if I borrow her DSM-IV when she gets home from work. For now, let’s go with ‘nutjob’.

RAH is right.

Agreed. Like it or not, President Obama and his administration are the American people’s choice as President, and Commander-in-Chief for a number of contributors, I’m sure. The Constitution, and the law, must be upheld not only in letter, but in spirit as well.

RAH: I have very much appreciated your comments and insight on this thread.

It has been about 60 years since major powers went to war with each other so things have gotten a bit soft. Now we have irrational third world powers going nuclear and the powers that be can’t wrap their heads around the irrational part.

Meanwhile I’m sponsoring a girl in an orphanage on the south side of Seoul. She graduates from high school next year. If anything happens to her……….

However with the current administration they will allow the the US to be bound in chains with self imposed regulations because they believe that we need to be punished and to lose since we are evil.

Blame America first is a reocurring theme amoung liberals and they may disguise it some but it appears in the diatribes and actions.

This idea that we are evil and need to die runs through many liberal policies. Abortion, gay sex, carbon caps, ROE on the batlefield, gun control so we can not defend ourselves. That was just to cite a few examples.

WE better win some elections soon and get conservatives that know they need to stay being a conservative. I don’t expect perfect to be at the expense of good. But we need good people to be candidates and win.

Obama and the left jumped the country to the left too fast and people are resisting. The Tea parties is a result of that anger. Tap that and we have a good chance of large number winning in the House and Governorships and even some Senate seats.

Like has been mention in the previous thread bullies can’ resist pushing too far and invoke the inevitable response.