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1. Doug:

The One never lacks a list of things that gives others a right to hate this country for what it was, and hope that Mr. Change can bring about the transformation that they all desire.

Jun 25, 2009 - 9:07 pm 2. F:

There are a lot of us who read Wretchard regularly who believe Obama would like to/will apologize. I am hoping the professionals in the State Department who deal in Iranian affairs on a daily basis will read this the same way you do, Wretchard: as a demand for what is ultimately a pointless conversation. And I hope the professionals carry the day. But I’m guessing the decision on what to do will be made by Rahm Emmanuel and I still haven’t learned just what abject grovelling he is willing to stoop to in order to leave Israel in the lurch. F

Jun 25, 2009 - 9:12 pm 3. Lifeofthemind:

Maybe we can do a deal. Everybody gets to question the integrity of any election in Iran where Basiji thugs are involved and the results are announced two hours after the polls close and government agents are engaged in literally subterranean efforts to destroy civilization. Everybody also gets to question the results of any election in America where Acorn thugs are involved and the results are announced by the media months in advance and government agents are engaged in massive and persistent efforts to debauch the capital markets before the election. So here is the deal, they get rid of Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs and we get rid of Obama and the Democrats. Now isn’t that fair?

Jun 25, 2009 - 9:13 pm 4. whiskey:

Obama cannot wait to apologize. I am sure he wants to hug Ahmadinejad so bad he can taste it. Then grovel and bow.

Of course, what’s interesting here is NutJob has taken Obama’s measure. And knows he’s a weak America-hater.

Jun 25, 2009 - 9:41 pm 5. Doug:

…and ACORN Basiji thugs recording the Census.

Jun 25, 2009 - 9:43 pm 6. Tcobb:

Now isn’t that f**r? Watch out with those four letter F-words Lifeofthemind. And don’t get too optimistic about getting rid of Obama anytime soon. It will take years of election therapy before the disease can even possibly go into remission.

But as to making an apology? Of course he will. Apologizing for the past sins of America (imagined or otherwise) is what he does best. And the spin for domestic consumption will be that its not REALLY an apology, its just an acknowledgment of past sins by prior administrations. After all, X is not really X (even though its characteristics conclusively demonstrate that it is) if you just believe hard enough that it is not.

Jun 25, 2009 - 9:47 pm 7. peterike:

Will Ahmadinejad get his apology?

As Bender the Robot from “Futurama” puts it rhetorically: “Is the Space Pope reptilian?”

Jun 25, 2009 - 10:01 pm 8. Josh:

The Chocolate Caliph apologize to this nasty runt? Nope. For all the wrong reasons, but nope.

I hope, nope.

Jun 25, 2009 - 10:08 pm 9. Walt:

Mahmoud wants his apology
He wants it here and now
He wants us and our president
To come to him and bow
He says relations between us
To stay on even keel
Requires Obie One come forth
And to the Mahmoud kneel
Of course Mahmoud is showing off
He’s only blowing smoke
The problem is we have a guy
In office who’s a joke
Imagine Mahmoud’s big surprise
His lifelong dream complete
As President Obama comes
And kisses Mahmoud’s feet

Jun 25, 2009 - 10:09 pm 10. Leo Linbeck III:

It’s funny how some words have two different, even opposite, meanings. Apology is such a word.

In its classic use, apology means a defense, an explanation for what one has done. Plato’s Apology was Socrates’ defense of his life and his teachings. It is poignant and moving, filled with thoughtful explanations of his behavior and his beliefs. This same usage applies to John Henry Cardinal Newman’s Apologia Pro Vita Sua, one of the greatest intellectual autobiographies of all time, and an exemplar of English prose. For instance, here is Newman’s explanation of why he believes in original sin:

Starting then with the being of a God, (which, as I have said, is as certain to me as the certainty of my own existence, though when I try to put the grounds of that certainty into logical shape I find a difficulty in doing so in mood and figure to my satisfaction,) I look out of myself into the world of men, and there I see a sight which fills me with unspeakable distress. The world seems simply to give the lie to that great truth, of which my whole being is so full; and the effect upon me is, in consequence, as a matter of necessity, as confusing as if it denied that I am in existence myself. If I looked into a mirror, and did not see my face, I should have the sort of feeling which actually comes upon me, when I look into this living busy world, and see no reflexion of its Creator. This is, to me, one of the great difficulties of this absolute primary truth, to which I referred just now. Were it not for this voice, speaking so clearly in my conscience and my heart, I should be an atheist, or a pantheist, or a polytheist when I looked into the world. I am speaking for myself only; and I am far from denying the real force of the arguments in proof of a God, drawn from the general facts of human society and the course of history, but these do not warm me or enlighten me; they do not take away the winter of my desolation, or make the buds unfold and the leaves grow within me, and my moral being rejoice. The sight of the world is nothing else than the prophet’s scroll, full of “lamentations, and mourning, and woe.”

To consider the world in its length and breadth, its various history, the many races of man, their starts, their fortunes, their mutual alienation, their conflicts; and then their ways, habits, governments, forms of worship; their enterprises, their aimless courses, their random achievements and acquirements, the impotent conclusion of long-standing facts, the tokens, so faint and broken, of a superintending design, the blind evolution of what turn out to be great powers or truths, the progress of things, as if from unreasoning elements, not towards final causes, the greatness and littleness of man, his far-reaching aims, his short duration, the curtain hung over his futurity, the disappointments of life, the defeat of good, the success of evil, physical pain, mental anguish, the prevalence and intensity of sin, the pervading idolatries, the corruptions, the dreary hopeless irreligion, that condition of the whole race, so fearfully yet exactly described in the Apostle’s words, “having no hope and without God in the world,” —all this is a vision to dizzy and appal; and inflicts upon the mind the sense of a profound mystery, which is absolutely beyond human solution.

What shall be said to this heart-piercing, reason-bewildering fact? I can only answer, that either there is no Creator, or this living society of men is in a true sense discarded from His presence. Did I see a boy of good make and mind, with the tokens on him of a refined nature, cast upon the world without provision, unable to say whence he came, his birthplace or his family connexions, I should conclude that there was some mystery connected with his history, and that he was one, of whom, from one cause or other, his parents were ashamed. Thus only should I be able to account for the contrast between the promise and the condition of his being. And so I argue about the world;—if there be a God, since there is a God, the human race is implicated in some terrible aboriginal calamity. It is out of joint with the purposes of its Creator. This is a fact, a fact as true as the fact of its existence; and thus the doctrine of what is theologically called original sin becomes to me almost as certain as that the world exists, and as the existence of God.

But when “apology” is used in its modern sense – saying you’re sorry for some offense, real or perceived – it adopts a tone of both self-flagellation and moral superiority. It is the preferred expression of the modern day Pharisee, one who does penance in public to demonstrate that he is “good” by burnishing his credentials as a victim.

Were the President were to apologize in the classic sense, were he to stand up and say “We Americans believe in self-determination, liberty, and respect for the individual, and believe that this formula for civil society is not just a good idea but a sound and moral practice that will increase the happiness of any nation that chooses to embrace these principles, as we have proven over the past 233 years” well, that’s an apology I would applaud.

For some reason, I don’t think that’s what the President will do. I expect to see the second, modern definition employed.

So I expect this will be another one of Newman’s “disappointments of life.”

L3

Jun 25, 2009 - 10:24 pm 11. bob:

Creation is itself the fall, breaking the one into the many, crosspurposed, so some say.

Jun 25, 2009 - 10:47 pm 12. Robohobo:

Walt – May I continue the riff? That was good – Obie One? Canobey?

Obie One Canobey

Of course, The Pantywaist pResident may beg Mahmoud’s leave takings and forgiveness OR he may choose to be The 0bamanation this time. The pathological narcissist and pick a fight. Which way am I betting?

Pantywaist.

Then I find this at Gerard’s place:

“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that Nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” — John Stuart Mill

The news today is that we lose two iconic personalities in one day. Farrah Fawcett and Michael Jackson. Guess which one is lionized, even by Fox? Yuck.

Farrah was escorted to the gates to the other side by her long time companion, Ryan O’Neil.

I do not know about Michael. I would guess his death was as lonely as his life.

Jun 25, 2009 - 11:38 pm 13. Doug:

“But when “apology” is used in its modern sense – saying you’re sorry for some offense, real or perceived – it adopts a tone of both self-flagellation and moral superiority”

Leo,
As practiced by Bill Clinton and B. Hussein Obama, the tone is self-congratulation rather than self-flagellation, since they always apologize for the sins of others, not themselves.
The tone of flagellation is reserved for us and the legacy of our ancestors.

Jun 25, 2009 - 11:40 pm 14. Wadeusaf:

I would applaud an apology that started at 10 and ended at…,oh wait that’s McCain speaking.

I think an apology to the students and opposition for not being in a position to help them help themselves would be a great way to apologize.

Or perhaps an apology to Iran for all that jimmy carter has wrought upon them, up to and including Mr. Ahmadinejad. That would be heart felt.

Or maybe some Bushisms.

“Iran’s arms shipments and support for terror fuel the fire of conflict in the Middle East. And it must stop. Syria has spoken out against al Qaeda. We expect it to act against Hamas and Hezbollah, as well. It’s time for Iran to focus on meeting its own people’s aspirations for freedom and for Syria to decide which side of the war against terror it is on.”

Or perhaps even this slightly modified Bushism,

“I call on the (Iranian) people to elect new leaders, leaders not compromised by terror. I call upon them to build a practicing democracy, based on tolerance and liberty. If the (Iranian) people actively pursue these goals, America and the world will actively support their efforts. If the (Iranian) people meet these goals, they will be able to reach agreement with Israel and Egypt and Jordan on security and other arrangements for independence.

“And when the (Iranian)people have new leaders, new institutions and new security arrangements with their neighbors, the United States of America will support the creation of a Palestinian state whose borders and certain aspects of its sovereignty will be provisional until resolved as part of a final settlement in the Middle East.”

Jun 26, 2009 - 12:03 am 15. Subotai Bahadur:

***This may be a double post, for which I apologize [sincere, second sense as defined below]. When I posted it, the site said it went through but nothing appeared, so I am trying again after waiting for a while.***

#8 Josh

If I may disagree, it seems that you are hoping that Buraq Hussein will not grovel because of his ego. There is a critical difference. Buraq does not consider himself to be “of” the United States. He considers himself to be an outsider brought in to correct the errors of the United States. Those errors include being free and prosperous, having the ill taste to actually try to spread that error, and of course trying to upset the natural hierarchy of “betters” ruling the “lower orders”.

He has no personal involvement in the life of this country or its citizens, beyond trying to shape them for motives and clients who are similarly uninvolved personally. On one of the cable networks there is/was [don't know the details as I have only seen it in passing] a show about “SuperNannies”. A family would have problems with a bratty child or several bratty children. The “SuperNanny” would be brought in as an uninvolved outsider to bring both the children and their enabler parents to heel. The “SuperNanny” views the project as a job, and the family as objects to be manipulated, not as individuals or a group that she is personally part of. The parents, like the elites in this country, think that they are in control of the process; but they are as subordinate as the children.

Buraq Hussein Obama views himself as our SuperNanny. He is here to correct us, bring us to heel, and to do it over our objections for his definition of our own good. He does not consider himself to be responsible for our past, nor for our behavior. He is outside and above us.

At #10 above Leo Linbeck III lays out superbly the two major definitions of apology, and predicts accurately that Buraq will choose the second. He will, gladly. But there is an extra kicker. Even if the second form, a personal apology for an act, is sincere; its worth [greater or lesser as the case may be] comes from the internalized personal feelings of regret behind it. Ahmadinejad will get an apology that is both the second form, in the modern sense; but also from someone who is apologizing on behalf of a third party who he has no empathy for or connection to.

Whatever the diplomatic phrasing that ends up being used, it will parse out to something along the line of:

I am sorry that I find myself in charge of such a population of rude, stupid, and intrinsically evil people. THEY have offended against Gaia, Allah, and Marx as well as against the people of Iran and their benevolent rulers. It is my intent to chastise THEM, submit THEM to chains and servitude, and force THEM to receive whatever just punishment you deem necessary to atone for THEIR existence.

In public or in private, that will be the substance of what he will offer the Iranians. He does not consider himself responsible to or for the United States; beyond the holy task of humbling it.

To expect more from him is to engage in the same type of fantasy projection as those victims of the GULAG who went to their deaths crying out, “If Stalin only knew!”.

Subotai Bahadur

Jun 26, 2009 - 7:52 am 16. buckets:

I think there is a third usage of the word apology: honest and well-deserved acknowledgment and contrition that you have committed a wrong. We apologize to friends, family, girlfriends and spouses when we realize we have made mistakes. When a man reflects and realizes his anger or actions were wrong or unjustified, a man steps up to the plate and acknowledges his error.

Apology in this third sense is honorable and necessary in a functioning civil society. It doesn’t necessarily carry an undertone of moral superiority, it reflects humbleness and “to err is human.”

Of course, this isn’t the kind of apology Iran deserves. Never apologize and never explain, kid, it’s a sign of weakness. As applied to a state like Iran, I would agree.

Jun 26, 2009 - 8:07 am 17. Mark:

Some words regarding Obama’s aplogizing propensities come to mind:

“Dhimmi”

“Weak horse”

L3 writes: ” . . . John Henry Cardinal Newman’s Apologia Pro Vita Sua, one of the greatest intellectual autobiographies of all time, and an exemplar of English prose.”

I can accept this kind of claim, since it leaves room for other ‘greatest exemplars of English prose,” such as, it goes without saying, “Dreams from my Father” and “The Audacity of Hope.”

Jun 26, 2009 - 8:17 am 18. Herb:

Buckets: that’s a Confession. Its a theological term also requiring true contrition.

L3 I was struck that the Newman piece parallels (sort of) Mr Fernandez’ proof of the existence of God (from In Durban 5/09):

At a discussion with some members of the Party I offered to demonstrate that God existed; which would follow if the Devil existed; which in turn would follow if Hell could be shown to exist. And I argued that Hell had to exist because there had of necessity to be a place for certain members of the Party. It wasn’t intellectually rigorous and it wasn’t very funny either.

Reasoning the existence of good from the existence of evil requires the observer to have, as Newman says, a great and stable internal faith.

Jun 26, 2009 - 8:25 am 19. Herb:

DOROTHY RABINOWITZ at the WSJ has something to say about public apologies ala’ Sanford. But she’s a tough gal.

WRT Buraq Obama, I dont see how anybody can apologize or admit fault for anything they aren’t responsible for. To do so for another individual requires an assumption of moral superiority that is really humiliating for the client for which the apology is offered. A parent may apologize for the behavior of the child, but that is really for their failure as a parent. To do so for a nation is what, then?

Words fail to describe the hubris, the arrogance, the vanity.

Jun 26, 2009 - 8:43 am 20. Anodyne:

Subotai Bahadur @15:

“The “SuperNanny” would be brought in as an uninvolved outsider to bring both the children and their enabler parents to heel.”

But at least a SuperNanny has to significantly interact with those she’s trying to bring to heel. Ditto for a “hatchet man” brought in to clean up a given organization. I’d argue that Obama is a hyper-detached hatchet man.

L3 @10:

“It is the preferred expression of the modern day Pharisee, one who does penance in public to demonstrate that he is “good” by burnishing his credentials as a victim.”

While I don’t remember a great deal from catechism or church, I do recall our parish priest discussing on several occasions the Pharisees and their hollow, exaggerated public displays of piety and penance. In fact, I even called some of my former Lefty acquaintances “modern day Pharisees” back when they could still stand to engage me, so it’s nice to see that someone else drew a similar parallel.

Jun 26, 2009 - 8:48 am 21. dan:

What I want to know is, and what I think the all-important question is in this whole affair:

What is going to happen to Mousavi?

Jun 26, 2009 - 9:07 am 22. RWE:

Of course, what Abracadabla really wants is that the USA apologize for existing, because our mere presence in the world imposes intolerable conditions on the he and his nation.

Both the Islamicists and many of the Europeans simply want the USA to be less successful at everything and thus not offend them. Obama has that effort in work in a great many ways. The man is nothing if not thorough.

Jun 26, 2009 - 9:13 am 23. Mongoose:

Buckets. That meaning of the word is essential to Christianity–as essential as the act denoted by Newman’s usage.

Jun 26, 2009 - 9:24 am 24. exhelodrvr:

Krauthammer has a really good column today on Mousavi and the protests –

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/25/AR2009062503361.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

Jun 26, 2009 - 9:32 am 25. LarryD:

The problem, for Obama, is that Ahmadinejad is demanding Obama apologize for what Obama himself has said. If Obama is indeed a narcissist, that is something he is psychologically incapable of doing. The closest he could come is similar to one of John Kerry’s non-apologys, “I’m sorry you misinterpreted me.” Which in this situation is going to be clearly nuts.

Jun 26, 2009 - 9:35 am 26. Gaffe Prices:

these days, 0’s apologies are like a… oh well, you know the drill

Jun 26, 2009 - 9:35 am 27. Clioman:

Successful thugs, whether they’re running gangs or governments, have an exquisitely sensitive ability to sense even the most deeply hidden weaknesses of their opponents. That’s how they stay in power…indeed, that’s how they stay alive. The One has been weighed. The One has been measured. And in the minds of at least three thug-rulers—Dear Leader, Dinner Jacket, and Czar Putin I—The One has been found wanting. The only question is how much the Republic will be made pay for his weaknesses.

Jun 26, 2009 - 9:41 am 28. DW:

True contrition has no place in this White House. Sackcloth and ashes just naturally clash with such fashionable bling as teleprompters, wagyu steak, pizzas flown in from halfway across the country, and obsessive-compulsive use of the phrases “I won” and “I am the President.”

We can at least hope that, apparently absent the possibility that this administration will ever feel any heartfelt contrition, that it will at least experience a healthy dose of regret – hopefully by or before late 2010.

Jun 26, 2009 - 9:44 am 29. RWE:

Exhelo: In regards to the Krauthammer piece:

“Unless Mousavi rises to it, or another rises in his place, Iran’s democratic uprising will end not as Russia 1991, but as China 1989.”

It was not just Yelsin, as Krauthammer says Mousavi would have to emulate, but the fact that earlier that year with Desert Storm the USA had convincingly demostrated that it could clean any opponent’s clock with ease. Russians saw the alternative to Yelsin as being “Desert Storm the sequel: the USSR Falls.”

But Obama and his ilk have emphasized howe badly we got our tails kicked in Iraq and Afghanistan. The people of Iran pretty much know what really happened, but the Mad Mullahs can listen to Obama’s Bombast (Obambast?) and think that we lost.

Jun 26, 2009 - 10:05 am 30. Dave the Kapampangan:

It’s inevitable.

Members of a previous generation believed in the inevitable coming of good things — provided they worked hard and tried their best. Today, members of a new generation believe in the inevitability of benefits without work or effort.

They believe housing values will inevitably rise even if nobody pays back loans. They believe the economy will always be healthy even if they rack up a 13 trillion dollar “credit card,” burden as “stimulus.”

They believe that victims will always triumph in far off lands if we stand by and do nothing.

“We should do nothing when evil threatens, but wait for goodness to continue to flow without our effort. Let us ride the coattails of others, redistribute their hard-earned rewards, take credit for their work, and even undermine their foundations to raid any leftover gold for redistribution. Because just by virtue of our being born and doing nothing, the flow of goodness and benefits is inevitable. Isn’t it?”

Jun 26, 2009 - 10:27 am 31. Dave the Kapampangan:

“Nanny” Obananarama is in a tough position. It had always been Nanny’s intention to dole out apologies and appeasements to Achma-di-nutjob. But it had to be spun as a “peace in our time” kind of deal. So that 8 years later, if there was a war, Nanny could say, “It seemed like the right thing to do. Nobody knew that di-nutjob was that much of a nutjob.”

Meanwhile Khameini and Achmi-di-nutjob have gotten Nanny’s letter and know that Nanny has it in mind to kiss their grits. That’s why they weren’t hesitant at all to kill off the opposition.

But they were a little bit too gleeful in their murdering. Now the fig leaf is off. Everybody knows from watching YouTube that Achma-di-nutjob is a bona fide wacko. And according to Nanny’s handlers, Nanny Obananarama is gonna look pretty stupid getting down on his knees to kiss Khameini and Achma-di-nutjob’s rings.

Everyone knows that Nanny is bozo. But the question is: is Nanny stupid enough to make himself LOOK stupid?

Jun 26, 2009 - 10:37 am 32. Robohobo:

Clioman- That The Pantywaist pResident THINKS he is in the same class of thug as those mentioned above goes without saying. Maybe if he really were he could pull this off – the non-apology apology. He is not of that class. Truth is he is what I call the soft metrosexual male prototype. If things go too far south and the SHTF in truly devastating ways, we may end up hunting his type.

There are things afoot in the world that truly are worrysome = The NorK’s missiles and bombs, the Iranian fake elections and ensuing violence and the absolute SILENCE from Putin & Co. in the area of the Caucasus is scary.

The zopilote’s are gathering.

Jun 26, 2009 - 10:45 am 33. Jamie Irons:

L3 (#10):

Superb post!

Jamie Irons

Jun 26, 2009 - 10:58 am 34. Artofnoise:

Rahm Emmanuel is the Judas goat.

Jun 26, 2009 - 11:07 am 35. exhelodrvr:

RWE,
Mousavi is definitely not the only factor here; the unrest has been there for 15+ years. And pretty clearly events in Iraq have added fuel. But it needs a spark at this point, which is what Mousavi has to provide.

That spark arguably could have been provided by Obama 10 days ago, anything from him now looks contrived, so that leaves Mousavi as the only realistic source.

Jun 26, 2009 - 11:08 am 36. E. Nigma:

LarryD

I think you have it nailed. Obama didn’t want to speak up about the uprising because of the danger to the “Grand Bargain” he had envisioned with the Iranians. But a few of those other nasty politicians like McCain (who should have been reprimanded according to some comments sent in by e-mail to Larry King Live on CNN) forced him to say….something. Obama tried to parse it, of course, by explaining the lack of differentiation between Ahmadinejad and Mousavi. Clever intellectual that he is, of course.

It will be interesting to see the rhetorical pretzel that Obama twists his words into to apologize but not apologize, and how the Media will cover for him. Maybe Biden will do it for him. Heh.

It will be…..Orwellian.

Jun 26, 2009 - 11:12 am 37. Sylvia:

L3, Subotai and Herb, thank you for providing the substance of my next discussion with my daughter. She’s cramming kanji in summer school right now but we visit once a week. I think even Whiskey would approve of how the girl is turning out.

DH read Seaman’s Bravest of the Brave about Yeo-Thomas aloud over the weekend. Intense book. Definitely a good thing to read right after Marks’ Between Silk and Cyanide.

Jun 26, 2009 - 11:25 am 38. Salt Lick:

It will be interesting to see the rhetorical pretzel that Obama twists his words into to apologize but not apologize,

“With regards to my rescinded July 4th invitation, I sincerely apologize for cutting off Mr. Ahmadenajhad’s wiener.”

Jun 26, 2009 - 11:36 am 39. Typos_R_Us:

Yes, he will. Even if the Usyrper had a pair, it would not matter. Berry is over a barrel, just like in “Pulp Fiction”.
The Usurper gained the White House thru as clever a fraud as anyone has ever seen. So the Usurper isn’t going to pee in the punch bowel over somebody else’s election. Especially since the FBI is still investigating the role ACORN played in his election. ACORN was heavy in Ohio, Virgina and Florida.
Not that it would have mattered. Without the conservative vote, McCain had no chance. Which was a BIG part of the reason the MSM pushed McCain so hard.

Jun 26, 2009 - 11:36 am 40. Mad Fiddler:

Keeping in mind that our Host Wretchard resides in Australia not the USA we commenters might want to respect his service by tempering our language in critiquing the manifest incompetence of those presently steering the ship of state.

Take a few minutes to look back at the administration of Woodrow Wilson in WWI. Sedition laws of the time were used enthusiastically to silence dissent BY ARRESTING, PROSECUTING, FINING and IMPRISONING people who expressed views differing from those of the administration.

Interesting isn’t it, that for all the billions and billions of times America’s Leftward-propelled called George W. Bush a Nazi, that the only persons actually jailed for any thing related to the invasion of Iraq were Judith Miller, the NYT reporter who long resisted identifying who first named Valery Plame as a CIA officer, and Scooter Libby, accused of deliberately lying about what he said in a conversation many months earlier.

I will now take my own advice, and shut up.

Jun 26, 2009 - 11:40 am 41. julietalphakilo:

The world continues to make obama their bitch and either he doesn’t realize it or it burns hin no end!

Jun 26, 2009 - 12:12 pm 42. Subotai Bahadur:

#40 Mad Fiddler

- Take a few minutes to look back at the administration of Woodrow Wilson in WWI. Sedition laws of the time were used enthusiastically to silence dissent BY ARRESTING, PROSECUTING, FINING and IMPRISONING people who expressed views differing from those of the administration. -

I suspect that more than a few who visit here have already thought of those days, and other precedents both foreign and domestic. And we still are here, and still speak freely.

Of course if our honored host wishes to set any ground rules on the subject, I am sure they will be followed.

Subotai Bahadur

Jun 26, 2009 - 12:18 pm 43. Mad Fiddler:

20,000 German citizens guillotined for dissent from 1939-1945

12 Million Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Catholics, Prostitutes, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Trade-Unionists, Baptists, Communists, Diluters-of-Aryan-Blood, Methodists, and other undesirables murdered by the German National Socialist regime 1939-1945

3,000,000 Cambodians killed in the re-education camps under the Khmer Rouge led by Pol Pot

165 thousand Vietnamese starved or executed in the “re-education camps” by the victorious Communist regime of North Vietnam (TWO MILLION Vietnamese refugees fled Communist Vietnam in flimsy overloaded boats, despite pirates, sinkings, sharks, and prolonged horrors at refugee camps.)

Ten to Twenty Million Ukranians and Russians shot, hanged, slaughtered, and starved by Stalin in the 1920’s and 1930’s to intimidate the rest into accepting collectivization

Estimated TWENTY MILLION Chinese citizens slaughtered and intentionally starved under Mao in the decades of the “Great Leap Forward” and the “Cultural Revolution”

A Million Rwandan Tutsi and Hutu moderates slaughtered by Hutu extremists

Half a Million Ugandans murdered under Idi Amin

Half a Million Black Africans, Christians, Animists, Pagans, killed in Darfur by Islamic militias supported by the Islamic government of Khartoum

~100 thousand dissenters and undesirables executed by The Islamic Republic of Iran since 1979

A Million Here, a Million There… pretty soon it adds up to some real numbers.

In the last century more dis-armed people were murdered by their own governments, than were killed by invading armies.

Jun 26, 2009 - 12:18 pm 44. Stephen:

Years ago I worked with an Iranian fellow who liked to tell Tehran cabdriver jokes. Like about the cabdriver who stopped for a mullah when he already had a fare in the cab and drove the mullah for miles out of his way and fawned all over the mullah the whole trip and finally escorted the mullah to his front door. When asked by his fare about why he put on such a brown nose act for the mullah the cabdriver replied “now I know where he lives.”

Another joke has the cabdriver taking his fare down a broad avenue pointing out the largest and most beautiful trees, each of which he has named for a mullah who will someday hang from its branches.

I don’t suppose it does much good to talk trash with the thugs who run Iran, or any other Thugocracy. But it would be fun to needle these guys about the thing they really fear, which I think has something to do with ropes and cabdrivers.

Jun 26, 2009 - 1:10 pm 45. feeblemind:

What about the integrity of the US Administration? Given the ease with which Obama lies to people, would you trust him to honor an agreement he signed with you? And as the Iranian leadership is as adept at lying, can two pathological liars arrive at and respect a mutual agreement?

Jun 26, 2009 - 1:25 pm 46. yourpissing meoff:

So, it occurs to me that we truly have to get rid of some morons that are in representation at our nation’s capital. When you have front groups like MoveOn.org, MediaMatters, and all the other front groups that George Soros (Will somebody please push this guy off the Sears Tower or out of a 747, please?) in all his socialist wisdom, funds, it seems that we’ve really done this to ourselves. “Why do you say such things?,” you ask. This is why:

1) Nancy “Stretch” Pelosi
2) Harry “Numbnuts” Reid
3) Barack “Hussein or is it Milhouse?” Obama
4) That dumbass who had the affair and got caught recently, Mark “You Idiot” Sanford
5) Should I really go on? I mean, really. Should I?…No, because you get the damn picture.

It’s because of dumbass representatives like these that my stomach turns and I have stress. Do you guys even know what stress means? Allow me to digress. Stress is the ability to want to choke the crap out of somebody who needs it. ‘Nuff said. I’m sure that we have many people who feel the same way. I say we need to replace everybody who’s trying to destroy this country.

You guys want problems solved. Right? Neither party is going to do it, because they’ve both been hijacked. The reason I say this is pretty much self evident. Republicans have an identity crisis and are pretty much useless. Nobody is standing up and doing anything. The Democrat party has been hijacked by Socialists, Communists and the like. Need I say more? So, the only way to get anything done is to have a 3rd party. But, you don’t see anyone credible and actually worthwhile for that to even happen. We do need somebody who knows what the hell they are doing and saying out there in the corrupt and treacherous Washington, DC.

Here’s your multi-phase plan to take care of the whole damn thing. I’m throwing this out there because I don’t see anyone else doing so.

1) Illegals
a. All illegals that are in the country at least 18 years of age need to be in the military for no less than 4 years. In other words, for you illiterates and libs who don’t understand, “You serve, you stay.” If you don’t serve in the military, you go back where you came from. Mass deportations would have to happen and the job market will then open up, freeing up capital for investments, operating costs for hospitals (without financial collapse), unemployment drops.

2) The Military
a. All criminals are placed under military control and serve. Depending on the crimes that they had done, they can work off their time. The amount of time worked off during their tenure will help their record to be cleansed/lessened. This would be on a sliding scale that lesser crimes would mean less time served in the military. Hardened criminals in time of war will either be placed on the front lines or behind enemy lines in order to circumvent any initiatives our foes may have against us. Between illegals and prison population, the military grows to 5 times what it is presently. If said hardened criminals do not serve, they are then given the option of firing squad or hanging. This will not only take care of the prisons, but also cut down costs of running prisons and storage of said prisoners. Not to mention, the crime rate would drop like a damn rock. You numbnuts out there is lib Obamaland don’t undertand (yes, I said it like that, for the special people) and never will. You should also be kicked in the nuts multiple times for general purposes.

3) Banking
a. Banking should be done in fashion fair to all individuals. All rates should be frozen to allow customers to know the costs entailed without additional charges. If you have a note through a bank that is financed, the max as far as a percentage rate that all banks should charge is no more than 10%. Do like Germany did and create “fiat” money until economy is back on it’s feet. Then, replace with official US currency due to the fact that nobody else will accept it. Hey, guess what this means. We can actually afford things like “food”. I know libs and far left dumbasses read this, but for my namesake, I love pissing you off.

4) The U.N.
a. Tell all UN representatives they have 72 hours to leave the country or be forcibly removed. Turn UN building into an apartment complex for the homeless. Relocate UN to The Hague. Also, another alternative mentioned later in my previous blog was to turn it into the world’s largest and most expensive aquarium, because we all know we’d get more use of it that way.

5) The National Debt
a. What debt? Write it off and default on all debt. Since, other countries have screwed us by doing so, it is only fair to do the same. Plus, we also tend to rebuild everybody else without rebuilding and taking care of our own first. Obama and that idiot Biden don’t get this one.

6) Senate, Congress and Supreme Court
a. I’m sick and tired of our representatives not listening to us and doing their own thing, screwing up everything else. Fire every one of them and them place common people who want to get the job done into office. If there is any protest, anyone who does has “habeus corpus” suspended until we take care of business. Any takers?…

7) Close borders
a. The reason why you want to do this is to make the country more secure. Place National Guard troops on Northern and Southern border to prevent illegals, terrorists or anyone else from getting in without proper identification. Here’s your damn comprehensive immigration law!!! If you don’t like it, leave. Go to Europe and sit on your ass where you don’t have to work.

If you think you have a better idea, I want to hear it. this is only a sample of what I’ve got for ya. Feel free to checkout my blog.

So, if you can’t handle the ideas or the truth, maybe it’s better said by someone who actually knew what the hell he was doing along with a few others:

“God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. …
And what country can preserve its liberties, if it’s rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure.”

by Thomas Jefferson

Enjoy, because he knew what was coming and so did the others who signed their names and their lives away to create this country. I love this country, but hate what it’s turned into. If only more understood that we could take it back, if we’d just stand…

Jun 26, 2009 - 1:29 pm 47. RWE:

Stephen#44:
Quote in 2003 in the LA Times. An Iranian woman in Iran says “I just wish the Americans would get this Iraq thing over with and get on with invading us.” I don’t think she meant she was looking forward to killing infidels.

And when that earthquake hit Iran a few years back and the government turned away the Israeli aid, a cabdriver in Iran was quoted as saying how absurd it was for the Israelis to send aid to the people who were helping blow them up and then have the Mullahs turn it down.

Feebleminded # 45: Good point! I said the same thing about Bill Clinton. Based on his lying and prevarication what other nation would sign a treaty with him? And sure enough, the Great Peacenik got exactly Zip done when it came to the arms control treaties his ilk always thinks are the answer to everything. NAFTA did get signed, but that is hardly the same thing. And Obama keeps saying he is going to pull out of NAFTA publically and then privately says he does not really mean it. Who would trust him?

Jun 26, 2009 - 1:38 pm 48. Eggplant:

Mad Fiddler said:

“In the last century more dis-armed people were murdered by their own governments, than were killed by invading armies”

For that reason, I would argue that anti-war moonbats/useful-idiots have almost as much blood on their hands as the Nazis and the Communists. It really irks me to see a moonbat adopt the morally superior pose.

Jun 26, 2009 - 3:13 pm 49. Doug:

Ikenga: Obama, the African Colonial

Many conservative (East, West, South, North) African-Americans like myself — those of us who know our history — have seen this movie before. Here are two main reasons why many Americans allowed Obama to slip through the cracks despite all of his glaring inconsistencies: First, Obama has been living on American soil for most of his adult life. Therefore, he has been able to masquerade as one who understands and believes in American democratic ideals. But he does not. Barack Obama is intrinsically undemocratic and as his presidency plays out, this will become more obvious.” Well, it’s already obvious to us. All these czars that have no accountability to legislative forces? They are not approved by Congress like cabinet secretaries are. He’s announced 13 or 14 czars. He’s running the car companies. He’s running the mortgage and banking business. He’s done this without the process of Democratic legislation.

He’s just declared it fiat, and his party is in power in the House so they’re letting him do this. “Second, and most importantly,” she writes, “too many Americans know very little about Africa. The one-size-fits-all understanding that many Americans (both black and white) continue to have of Africa might end up bringing dire consequences for this country. Contrary to the way it continues to be portrayed in mainstream Western culture, Africa is not a continent that can be solely defined by AIDS, ethnic rivalries, poverty and safaris. Africa, like any other continent, has an immense history defined by much diversity and complexity. Africa’s long-standing relationship with Europe speaks especially to some of these complexities — particularly the relationship that has existed between the two continents over the past two centuries. Europe’s complete colonization of Africa during the nineteenth century, also known as the Scramble for Africa, produced many unfortunate consequences, the African colonial being one of them.”

The African colonial politician (ACP) feigns repulsion towards the hegemonic paradigms of Western civilization. But at the same time, he is completely enamored of the trappings of its aristocracy or elite culture.” She’s pegging Obama here, just pegging him. He’s totally caught up in the trappings of aristocracy or elite culture, taking the plane up to New York, flying the kids over to Paris. This is the stuff about the job he loves, he’s enamored of it.

“The ACP blames and caricatures whitey to no end for all that has gone wrong in the world. He convinces the masses that various forms of African socialism are the best way for redressing the problems that European colonialism motivated in Africa. However, as opposed to really being a hard-core African Leftist who actually believes in something, the ACP uses socialist themes as a way to disguise his true ambitions: a complete power grab whereby the ‘will of the people’ becomes completely irrelevant.

Jun 26, 2009 - 4:12 pm 50. anon:

BHO certainly will not give an apology.

Why should he? He WANTS Iran to get the Atomic
bomb.

In point of fact BHO also wants Iran to use it
to destroy that shitty little country, Israel.

Events are unfolding just the way his Saudi
masters told him they would.

Jun 26, 2009 - 5:13 pm 51. Tony:

Completely off-topic, but completely true, for your consideration:

Here is the beginning of the EPA report that just became available today, after being suppressed by President Obama and his appointed head of the EPA. You know, the guys who are going to save the world from Global Warming. Original document is available here as PDF Image (I converted to Word for your convenience – buy me a beer the next time you see me), thanks to The Corner: http://cei.org/cei_files/fm/active/0/DOC062509-004.pdf

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
These comments are based on the draft Technical Support Document for Endangerment Analysis for Greenhouse Gas Emissions under the Clean Air Act (hereafter draft TSD) issued by the Climate Change Division of the Office of Atmospheric Programs on March 9, 2009. Unfortunately, because we were only given a few days to review this lengthy document these comments are of necessity much less comprehensive and polished than they would have been if more time had been allowed. We are prepared, however, to provide added information, more detailed comments on specific points raised, and any assistance in making changes if requested by OAR.
The principal comments are as follows:
1. The current Draft TSD is based largely on the IPCC AR4 report, which is at best three years out of date in a rapidly changing field. There have been important developments in areas that deserve careful attention in this draft. The list includes the following five:
• Global temperatures have declined—extending the current downtrend to 11 years with a particularly rapid decline in 1907-8; in addition, the PDO went negative in September, 2007 and the AMO in January, 2009, respectively. At the same time atmospheric CO2 levels have continued to increase and CO2 emissions have accelerated.
• The consensus on past, present and future Atlantic hurricane behavior has changed. Initially, it tilted towards the idea that anthropogenic global warming is leading to (and will lead to) to more frequent and intense storms. Now the consensus is much more neutral, arguing that future Atlantic tropical cyclones will be little different that those of the past.
• The idea that warming temperatures will cause Greenland to rapidly shed its ice has been greatly diminished by new results indicating little evidence for the operation of such processes.
• One of the worst economic recessions since World War II has greatly decreased GHG emissions compared to the assumptions made by the IPCC. To the extent that ambient GHG levels are relevant for future global temperatures, these emissions reductions should greatly influence the adverse effects of these emissions on public health and welfare. The current draft TSP does not reflect the changes that have already occurred nor those that are likely to occur in the future as a result of the recession. In fact, the topic is not even discussed to our knowledge.

• A new 2009 paper finds that the crucial assumption in the GCM models used by the IPCC concerning strongly positive feedback from water vapor is not supported by empirical evidence and that the feedback is actually negative.
• A new 2009 paper by Scafetta and West suggests that the IPCC used faulty solar data in dismissing the direct effect of solar variability on global temperatures. Their research suggests that solar variability could account for up to 68% of the increase in Earth’s global temperatures.
These six developments alone should greatly influence any assessment of “vulnerability, risk, and impacts” of climate change within the U.S. But these are just a few of the new developments since 2006. Therefore, the extensive portions of the EPA’s Endangerment TSD which are based upon the old science are no longer appropriate and need to be revised before a new TSD is issued for comments.
Not only is the science of the TSD out-of-date but there are a number of other disturbing inconsistencies between the temperature and other scientific data and the GHG/CO2 hypothesis that need to be carefully explored and explained if the draft TSD is to be credible. Despite the complexity of the climate system the following conclusions appear to be well supported by the available data (see Section 2 below):
A. By far the best single explanation for global temperature fluctuations is variations in the PDO/ENSO. ENSO appears to operate in a 3-5 year cycle. PDO/AMO appear to operate in about a 60-year cycle. This is not really explained in the draft TSD but needs to be, or, at the very least, there needs to be an explanation as to why OAR believes that these evident cycles do not exist or why they are much more unimportant than we believe them to be.
B. There appears to be a strong association between solar sunspots/irradiance and global temperature fluctuations. It is unclear exactly how this operates, but it may be through indirect solar variability on cloud formation. This topic is not really explored in the Draft TSD but needs to be since otherwise the effects of solar variations may be misattributed to the effects of changes in GHG levels.
C. Changes in GHG concentrations appear to have so little effect that it is difficult to find any effect in the satellite temperature record, which started in 1978.

D. The surface measurements (HADCRUT) are more ambiguous than the satellite measurements in that the increasing temperatures shown since the mid-1970s could either be due to the rapid growth of urbanization and the heat island effect or by the increase in GHG levels. However, since no such increase is shown in the satellite record it appears more likely that urbanization and the UHI effect are the most likely cause. If so, the increases may have little to do with GHGs and everything to do with the rapid urbanization during the period. Given the discrepancy between surface temperature records in the 1940-75 and 1998-2008 and the increases in GHG levels during these periods it appears even more unlikely that GHGs have much effect on measured surface temperatures either. These points need to be very carefully and fully discussed in the draft TSD if it is be scientifically credible.
E. Hence it is not reasonable to conclude that there is any endangerment from changes in GHG levels based on the satellite record, since almost all the fluctuations appear to be due to natural causes and not human-caused pollution as defined by the Clean Air Act. The surface record is more equivocal but needs to be carefully discussed, which would require substantial revision of the Draft TSD.
F. There is a strong possibility that there are some other natural causes of global temperature fluctuations that we do not yet fully understand and which may account for the 1998 temperature peak which appears on both the satellite and surface temperature records. This possibility needs to be fully explained and discussed in the Draft TSD. Until and unless these and many other inconsistencies referenced in these comments are adequately explained it would appear premature to attribute all or even any of what warming has occurred to changes in GHG/CO2 atmospheric levels.
These inconsistencies are so important and sufficiently abstruse that in our view EPA needs to make an independent analysis of the science of global warming rather than adopting the conclusions of the IPCC and CCSP without much more careful and independent EPA staff review than is evidenced by the Draft TSP. Adopting the scientific conclusions of an outside group such as the IPCC or CCSP without thorough review by EPA is not in the EPA tradition anyway, and there seems to be little reason the change the tradition in this case. If their conclusions should be incorrect and EPA acts on them, it is EPA that will be blamed for

inadequate research and understanding and reaching a possibly inaccurate determination of endangerment. Given the downward trend in temperatures since 1998 (which some think will continue until at least 2030) there is no particular reason to rush into decisions based on a scientific hypothesis that does not appear to explain most of the available data.
Finally, there is an obvious logical problem posed by steadily increasing US health and welfare measures and the alleged endangerment of health and welfare discussed in this draft TSD during a period of rapid rise in at least CO2 ambient levels. This discontinuity either needs to be carefully explained in the draft TSD or the conclusions changed.

Jun 26, 2009 - 5:26 pm 52. Jay:

Whatever Obama wants in his crazied hating mind his handlers and the leadership of the Dems and many Repubs in Congress are crooks. The cap and trade is a way for the corporate leaders and wall street tycoons to rape the middle class while giving pittences to the poorer folk. The poor blacks and Hispanics are cultivated by hatred.
Comparisons with FDR and Wilson are wrong. Their policy makers were “well meaning” but not thieves. FDR was a patrician.
Only now are the Euro elites are turning into thieves.
The game is more complicated that the framing of Glenn Beck, who instincivly has it correct.
Notice how angry Rush has become. He now understands. He used to be optimistic.

Jun 26, 2009 - 5:31 pm 53. JWT:

Leo@10:

Your dissertation on the opposite meanings of apology was really bad, man.

If I offend you by saying so, not only am I not sorry, but am ready to deliver an apology. When will you be prepared to counter?

Jun 26, 2009 - 8:42 pm 54. G. Clarke:

Whether Obambi apologizes or not, Ahmaddidntgethejob now officially regards Obama as his bitch. Other than giving the US Army in Iraq the green light to payback the Iranian Army for all their roadside bombs that messed our guys up, Obambi probably has no hand left to change that dynamic now. But he doesn’t have to green light a full invasion or liberation into Iran. All he has to do is just authorize a little reverse gun running, and special forces infiltration as pay back, to help the insurgents in Iran get their game on. We did it easily enough with the Muhajeddin in Afghanistan against the Soviets, so the model works. The freedom fighters in Iran are stoked and ready and the rotten door to be kicked in is probably really that rotten. Won’t take much but Obambi, cuz he’s a leftist who loves strong leaders of small out-of-the-way countries, probably won’t do anything.

Am I happy our 44th President is now regarded by many as the personal lap dog of the likes of Ahmedinejad, who in turn is the lap dog of Khomeini? No. I have to admit I don’t like it. But Obama’s head is still whirling with all that free stuff he now gets, so he is probably clueless to how it now looks.

Jun 26, 2009 - 10:08 pm 55. Mad Fiddler:

Applause and thanks to Tony for the EPA link and report.

Jun 26, 2009 - 11:19 pm 56. Mad Fiddler:

The Waxman-Markey “Carbon Tax/Global Warming” legislation has been passed by the house.

How do we find out the names of those who voted FOR this? Seems like it *HAD* to be an individual roll call vote.

You really have to admire the brass balls of this administration, making its repayment of favors to the Union Bosses and the gifts to fence-straddling DemRepresentatives right out in the open. They are so supremely confident that they can get away with it, it’s just a big joke to these guys.

Jun 26, 2009 - 11:59 pm 57. RAH:

Obama will not apologize, he may temporize but he only uses the national apology to flagellate conservative opinions and policies he is against.

Obama is too arrogant to apologize to A. He has already responded with disdain that he does not consider A. rants as worth recognition.

Jun 27, 2009 - 3:59 am 58. Lifeofthemind:

RAH,
Obama and Ahmadinejad hate each other because they are so similar. O gets to dress better and looks normal. A gets to be more publicly honest and rant about mass murder and eschatological fantasies. Inside I suspect that there is little difference between them.

Jun 27, 2009 - 4:47 am 59. Barry 0351:

>squeaky noise emanating from between thumb and forefinger< “Worlds smallest Violin playing I’m sorry, so sorry.”
FU ahmadijinahad.

Jun 27, 2009 - 5:24 am 60. Subotai Bahadur:

# 56 Mad Fiddler

Here is the link to the roll call vote:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll477.xml

Short form, here is the list of traitors:

Bono Mack
Castle
Kirk
Lance
LoBiondo
McHugh
Reichert
Smith (NJ)

Sadly, you know that the National Republican Congressional Committee is going to take note of the ire of Conservatives and Republicans [the two have not been synonymous for a long time]at this group; and will double and redouble their efforts to protect them from primary challenges.

This crosses over into Wretchard’s commentary about elites being insulated from reality in “The Cordon Sanitaire” above.

If I may, I will cross post something I wrote elsewhere last night on the situation.

440. While we still have to go through the motions, unless and until Buraq Hussein cancels further elections or remodels them into imitations of his idols the Iranians’ elections; we are functionally running out of electoral politics. Our laws and our Constitution are set aside by decrees from the White House, our Courts look the other way, and our elections are already more than a little bit shaky to the point where anyone who trusts the vote count being honest is a candidate to be sold a bridge in Brooklyn.

Government works on fear. Politicians will do at least some of the right things if they fear the people. That fear can entail the possibility of losing their cushy jobs, it can be fear of indictment, it can be fear of impoverishment, or it can be a more basic kind of fear.

If politicians do not have that fear, they become the masters and it is the people who have to fear. Right now, no incumbent politician has to fear being removed from office by electoral means. It simply does not happen any more. Between crooked vote counting and an electorate that is dumb enough to be fooled when told the same lies repeatedly, they are in for life. Turnover in Congress is roughly equal or less than that by mortality tables for their age group. They do not fear indictment. As is all too obvious, there are two sets of laws on the books. One for us, and one for the aristocracy of either party. They do not have to fear impoverishment, because they are more than corrupt enough, and there are enough people willing to pay them off; to keep them living as kings.

They see no need to take us into account at all. Unless a level of fear is restored to them, they will continue to abuse and tyrannize us. The question is how to induce that fear in them, since the system is rigged. Because you know that at this very moment, the same 8 ******** [redacted from original, because this is Wretchard's house], if they happen to think about the reaction to their vote, are laughing at us from what they view as a position of impunity.

Subotai Bahadur

Jun 27, 2009 - 7:04 am 61. Leo Linbeck III:

JWT@53,

Dude, your post was sick.

Cheers,
L3

Jun 27, 2009 - 7:53 am 62. Tony:

@55 – thanks Mad F!

How ironic that the same fanatically fervent environmentalists that have paralyzed the American nuclear industry for the last 30 years are now plunging forward with ever new demands for carbon-free energy, and STILL decrying clean nukes.

Btw, is it just me, or has President Obama turned out to be far, far more ideologically extreme and willfully ignorant than we imagined from his infintesimally thin qualifications for the office and highly questionable associations?

Sheesh, that Fool’s Guide to History that he delivered in Cairo was really a kicker!

Jun 27, 2009 - 8:20 am 63. Tony:

55 – thanks Mad F!

I knew President Obama was dismally unqualified and ferociously leftist, but I never realized he’d be this bad this fast, and the Dems in Congress are acting just like their Jacobin forbears, knowing their time in power will be short and disastrous not only for the country but even moreso for themselves.

Jun 27, 2009 - 8:23 am 64. tanstaafl:

Since Obama seemed pretty disgusted with A’jad’s demand for an apology, one might hope that a small silver lining of recent events in Iran would be that the American President has a clearer understanding of just exactly who he has been trying to do business with & make overtures to.

Jun 27, 2009 - 8:24 am 65. Unsk:

Now Dinnerjacket has really gone and done it. He can threaten Israel all he wants. He can build as many nukes as he wants. His Revolutionary Guards can kill our soldiers in Iraq till the cows come home. No matter. He can even murder thousands of protesters and the One will be unmoved. But then he did the unforgiveable.

He dissed our annointed, hallowed Savior Muslim Traitor President.

Oh boy. One does not embarrass or dis Buraq Hussein and not suffer the wrath of the One. Dinnerjacket had better watch it. He ’s really in the dog house with Buraq now. Perhaps Dinnerjacket should whisper some sweet Marxist/Jihadist nothings in our Dear Leader’s ear to make it all better, because you know Buraq really had his heart set on his big “Peace in our Time ” deal.

Jun 27, 2009 - 8:58 am 66. tanstaafl:

You are not far afield, Unsk, in fact, you’re right on.

The only unpardonable sin that D’jacket & friends could commit is to insult The (thin-skinned) One™

Jun 27, 2009 - 10:17 am 67. Josh:

#15 Subotai Bahadur
it seems that you are hoping that Buraq Hussein will not grovel because of his ego. There is a critical difference. Buraq does not consider himself to be “of” the United States. He considers himself to be an outsider brought in to correct the errors of the United States.

And Iran, all of dar al-Islam, Oz, Candyland, Middle Earth, and Fox News.

#64 says it well.

Jun 27, 2009 - 10:38 am 68. Mark:

Another descriptor comes to mind:

“Objectively fascist.”

Wow, still feels good to say that!

The left has had a monopoly on all the good words for too long.

Jun 27, 2009 - 10:46 am 69. blogstrop:

Happy 4th of July next week from an Australian lurker/commenter. Several more to go before you get another vote for Pres. At least there’s the mid-terms before that. Start spreadin’ the news …

Jun 28, 2009 - 3:46 am 70. Jay:

I am with the University of Texas.

Jun 29, 2009 - 1:20 pm

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