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		<title>By: Mad Fiddler</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/06/30/in-thrall-to-the-bargain/comment-page-2/#comment-59547</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Fiddler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The serving elected Republicans are collectively cowards, lacking the courage to actually do the things they were elected to. Also, lacking the guts to use their legitimate powers to oppose the current administration. 

So, the reality is NOT that O is some stinking genius and the public all passive dimwits. 

It is that the administration and its formal and informal support organizations and foreign contributors have followed a sustained multiphase strategy bending and breaking some laws, and gaming the system:

(1) Massive illegal campaign funding from undisclosed foreign sources. This was earlier done with great success (Remember John Wu?) by William Jefferson Clinton, and the gutless Republicans were too &lt;i&gt;askeered&lt;/i&gt; to challenge the Chinese money flowing into the Clinton campaign treasuries.

(2) Massive Democratic voting in Republican presidential primary elections, openly when it was legal, surreptitiously when not. Again, the prevalence of Democrats in appointed regulatory positions effectively stifled any Republican challenge. This strategy had a lot to do with the ultimate elimination of several other more viable candidates, leaving John McCain as the default. Seeing the Democrats got away with this, Mr. Limbaugh was inspired to call for Republicans to do likewise to defeat the Dowager Empress H. Whooda thunk it would move the Marxist Hater of All Things American to the fore?

(3) ACORN activists in various close elections are increasingly shown to have perpetrated criminal fraud in registering unlawful voters and helping them cast illegal ballots. It is an inarguable item of faith for Democrats that the Republicans &quot;STOLE&quot; the 2000 presidential election, despite acknowledgment by the NYT that every single recount by Florida election officials even while daily changing the rules they had established to try to rig the election, still ended up showing that BUSH beat Mister Gore. So they think they have a moral obligation to cheat as much as they can get away with. Hence, the jobs-for-failed-comedians program recently instituted in Michigan.

What it boils down to is this: The Democrats think they own the place, and they are basically daring anyone to challenge them.

It is likely to get very ugly (&quot;violent&quot;), because they are pushing the situation to the limit, looking for a chance to use Executive Orders to force a showdown between of some sort among Military, Law Enforcement, Judicial, and mere citizens who see the laws being circumvented, stretched, bent, violated, broken, ignored, and spit upon. It is becoming increasingly flagrant and open.

Honduras is the model. Zelaya, allied personally to the Communist Dictator Chavez, tried to ignore the Honduran Constitution, had Chavez print illegal ballots. He ordered General Romeo Vazquez to conduct an illegal referendum ruled an illegal violation of the Honduran Constitution by the Supreme Court of Honduras. When General Vasquez refused this order, President Zelaya dismissed him, and attempted to use a street mob to proceed with the referendum using the ballots printed for him by Chavez.

The telepromptsident&#039;s reflex was unusually... well... &lt;i&gt;prompt&lt;/i&gt; - support the Leftist Zelaya in violating Honduran law, defying the Honduran Supreme Court, and using a mob of street thugs to try to install himself as &quot;President for Life.&quot;

What would happen if our elected leader were to order United States military forces to attack Honduran targets?

This is the Commander-in-Chief, remember, that waffled and hid under his desk for most of a week when faced by FOUR GODDAMN TEENAGE PIRATES IN A LIFEBOAT TIED TO A US DESTROYER.

Do you actually believe he gave a specific order to &quot;engage&quot; the pirates? 

Our Chicago-trained Community-Organizer-In-Chief is looking for some sort of chance to show he can be a military commander, just like William Jefferson Clinton, who was not at all shy about sending U.S. military forces in to slaughter... &lt;i&gt;somebody&lt;/i&gt; just so long as they can be somehow portrayed as a general enemy of humanity.

Watch how the White House is spinning the Honduran situation. It&#039;s already being termed a &quot;coup.&quot; Yeah, the Military and the Supreme Court, and the legislature, and the the people, and... oh, yeah... The Honduran Constitution all conspired to take over the government from that sweet Uncle Zelaya.

We are so screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The serving elected Republicans are collectively cowards, lacking the courage to actually do the things they were elected to. Also, lacking the guts to use their legitimate powers to oppose the current administration. </p>
<p>So, the reality is NOT that O is some stinking genius and the public all passive dimwits. </p>
<p>It is that the administration and its formal and informal support organizations and foreign contributors have followed a sustained multiphase strategy bending and breaking some laws, and gaming the system:</p>
<p>(1) Massive illegal campaign funding from undisclosed foreign sources. This was earlier done with great success (Remember John Wu?) by William Jefferson Clinton, and the gutless Republicans were too <i>askeered</i> to challenge the Chinese money flowing into the Clinton campaign treasuries.</p>
<p>(2) Massive Democratic voting in Republican presidential primary elections, openly when it was legal, surreptitiously when not. Again, the prevalence of Democrats in appointed regulatory positions effectively stifled any Republican challenge. This strategy had a lot to do with the ultimate elimination of several other more viable candidates, leaving John McCain as the default. Seeing the Democrats got away with this, Mr. Limbaugh was inspired to call for Republicans to do likewise to defeat the Dowager Empress H. Whooda thunk it would move the Marxist Hater of All Things American to the fore?</p>
<p>(3) ACORN activists in various close elections are increasingly shown to have perpetrated criminal fraud in registering unlawful voters and helping them cast illegal ballots. It is an inarguable item of faith for Democrats that the Republicans &#8220;STOLE&#8221; the 2000 presidential election, despite acknowledgment by the NYT that every single recount by Florida election officials even while daily changing the rules they had established to try to rig the election, still ended up showing that BUSH beat Mister Gore. So they think they have a moral obligation to cheat as much as they can get away with. Hence, the jobs-for-failed-comedians program recently instituted in Michigan.</p>
<p>What it boils down to is this: The Democrats think they own the place, and they are basically daring anyone to challenge them.</p>
<p>It is likely to get very ugly (&#8221;violent&#8221;), because they are pushing the situation to the limit, looking for a chance to use Executive Orders to force a showdown between of some sort among Military, Law Enforcement, Judicial, and mere citizens who see the laws being circumvented, stretched, bent, violated, broken, ignored, and spit upon. It is becoming increasingly flagrant and open.</p>
<p>Honduras is the model. Zelaya, allied personally to the Communist Dictator Chavez, tried to ignore the Honduran Constitution, had Chavez print illegal ballots. He ordered General Romeo Vazquez to conduct an illegal referendum ruled an illegal violation of the Honduran Constitution by the Supreme Court of Honduras. When General Vasquez refused this order, President Zelaya dismissed him, and attempted to use a street mob to proceed with the referendum using the ballots printed for him by Chavez.</p>
<p>The telepromptsident&#8217;s reflex was unusually&#8230; well&#8230; <i>prompt</i> &#8211; support the Leftist Zelaya in violating Honduran law, defying the Honduran Supreme Court, and using a mob of street thugs to try to install himself as &#8220;President for Life.&#8221;</p>
<p>What would happen if our elected leader were to order United States military forces to attack Honduran targets?</p>
<p>This is the Commander-in-Chief, remember, that waffled and hid under his desk for most of a week when faced by FOUR GODDAMN TEENAGE PIRATES IN A LIFEBOAT TIED TO A US DESTROYER.</p>
<p>Do you actually believe he gave a specific order to &#8220;engage&#8221; the pirates? </p>
<p>Our Chicago-trained Community-Organizer-In-Chief is looking for some sort of chance to show he can be a military commander, just like William Jefferson Clinton, who was not at all shy about sending U.S. military forces in to slaughter&#8230; <i>somebody</i> just so long as they can be somehow portrayed as a general enemy of humanity.</p>
<p>Watch how the White House is spinning the Honduran situation. It&#8217;s already being termed a &#8220;coup.&#8221; Yeah, the Military and the Supreme Court, and the legislature, and the the people, and&#8230; oh, yeah&#8230; The Honduran Constitution all conspired to take over the government from that sweet Uncle Zelaya.</p>
<p>We are so screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spenger is a brilliant loon, but just maybe he&#039;s deduced the plans of that less brilliant loon, Our President.

It comes to a plan to sell out Israel first in the hope of later improbably results.  Do the math on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spenger is a brilliant loon, but just maybe he&#8217;s deduced the plans of that less brilliant loon, Our President.</p>
<p>It comes to a plan to sell out Israel first in the hope of later improbably results.  Do the math on that.</p>
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		<title>By: peterike</title>
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		<dc:creator>peterike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; The liberal, and the group, nation, or civilization infected by liberal doctrine and values, are morally disarmed before those whom the liberal regards as less well off than himself.  - James Burnham &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> The liberal, and the group, nation, or civilization infected by liberal doctrine and values, are morally disarmed before those whom the liberal regards as less well off than himself.  &#8211; James Burnham </i></p>
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		<title>By: dtmack</title>
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		<dc:creator>dtmack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Spengler article:

&quot;By removing America as a referee, he will provoke more violence than the United States ever did. We are entering a very, very dangerous period as a result.&quot; 

Yep. As we move away from &quot;Pax Americana&quot;, or whatever you call it, the world is going to mourn the loss, although they may not say it. Our &quot;oppressive&quot; hand will seem amazingly light, compared to what will follow.

The ME is where all of the action is now, but I suspect Europe will see it&#039;s share of troubles in the near future. The Balkans haven&#039;t gone away, they&#039;re only resting. Next time the Europeans won&#039;t have the US to pull this out for them.

And one day soon the Chinese will awake to find that they are totally surrounded by Nuclear Powers, many of whom are unstable or potentially hostile to them. 

Add in all of the potential internal instability in the world, and it certainly looks
like we&#039;re in for a rough, and very unpredictable, time.

It&#039;s looking more and more like a replay of the 1930&#039;s, but worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Spengler article:</p>
<p>&#8220;By removing America as a referee, he will provoke more violence than the United States ever did. We are entering a very, very dangerous period as a result.&#8221; </p>
<p>Yep. As we move away from &#8220;Pax Americana&#8221;, or whatever you call it, the world is going to mourn the loss, although they may not say it. Our &#8220;oppressive&#8221; hand will seem amazingly light, compared to what will follow.</p>
<p>The ME is where all of the action is now, but I suspect Europe will see it&#8217;s share of troubles in the near future. The Balkans haven&#8217;t gone away, they&#8217;re only resting. Next time the Europeans won&#8217;t have the US to pull this out for them.</p>
<p>And one day soon the Chinese will awake to find that they are totally surrounded by Nuclear Powers, many of whom are unstable or potentially hostile to them. </p>
<p>Add in all of the potential internal instability in the world, and it certainly looks<br />
like we&#8217;re in for a rough, and very unpredictable, time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s looking more and more like a replay of the 1930&#8217;s, but worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Mongoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mongoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bogie: My operative adjectives where &quot;high and noble&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bogie: My operative adjectives where &#8220;high and noble&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamquam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamquam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;no plan survives contact with reality.&quot;  I believe the actual quote is &quot;No plan survives contact with the enemy.&quot;  In Obama&#039;s case I don&#039;t think he believes he has enemies save the domestic enemies represented by any and all who oppose him.  The only reason America had external enemies was because of the aggressive war mongering of the capitalist imperialists.  Absent that there would be no cause for any outside power to oppose him.  But all those alienated by Cowboy diplomacy have not come running into the fold.  Perhaps they do not know that they are not the enemy.  Or perhaps they know themselves to be America&#039;s enemies regardless of the self proclaimed Comrade in Chief and his self abasing speeches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;no plan survives contact with reality.&#8221;  I believe the actual quote is &#8220;No plan survives contact with the enemy.&#8221;  In Obama&#8217;s case I don&#8217;t think he believes he has enemies save the domestic enemies represented by any and all who oppose him.  The only reason America had external enemies was because of the aggressive war mongering of the capitalist imperialists.  Absent that there would be no cause for any outside power to oppose him.  But all those alienated by Cowboy diplomacy have not come running into the fold.  Perhaps they do not know that they are not the enemy.  Or perhaps they know themselves to be America&#8217;s enemies regardless of the self proclaimed Comrade in Chief and his self abasing speeches.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s error is much more basic than that. No matter their differences, Sunni and Shia are Muslim first and foremost. They are united in the goal of dominating and destroying the infidel, a goal they have pursued for nearly 1400 years. They will, of course, get on with the business of killing each other, but so long as a free unbeliever draws breath they will unite against him.

Spengler is dangerously delusional if he thinks &quot;revolutionary Islam&quot; (as if there&#039;s any other kind) is in danger of collapse. What pray tell will cause that? How does he propose we deal with the perverse incentives of Islam itself, and the tendency of Muslims to deem collapse and failure as evidence of insufficient zeal and piety?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s error is much more basic than that. No matter their differences, Sunni and Shia are Muslim first and foremost. They are united in the goal of dominating and destroying the infidel, a goal they have pursued for nearly 1400 years. They will, of course, get on with the business of killing each other, but so long as a free unbeliever draws breath they will unite against him.</p>
<p>Spengler is dangerously delusional if he thinks &#8220;revolutionary Islam&#8221; (as if there&#8217;s any other kind) is in danger of collapse. What pray tell will cause that? How does he propose we deal with the perverse incentives of Islam itself, and the tendency of Muslims to deem collapse and failure as evidence of insufficient zeal and piety?</p>
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		<title>By: bogie wheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogie wheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;their position was not earn by high, noble and exceptional character, aspects,capabilities or acts.&lt;/I&gt;

Unless you count as exceptional, their ability to loot public treasuries wherever they be found.

Would I call passing a $3.55 trillion budget, with a $1.85 trillion deficit hangover, an exceptional ability to loot?  I guess I would.  Especially when nobody but Bernie Madoff has, so far, gone to jail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>their position was not earn by high, noble and exceptional character, aspects,capabilities or acts.</i></p>
<p>Unless you count as exceptional, their ability to loot public treasuries wherever they be found.</p>
<p>Would I call passing a $3.55 trillion budget, with a $1.85 trillion deficit hangover, an exceptional ability to loot?  I guess I would.  Especially when nobody but Bernie Madoff has, so far, gone to jail.</p>
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		<title>By: bogie wheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogie wheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L3:

Cartoonist &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://townhall.com/cartoons/cartoonist/MichaelRamirez/2009/06/3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael Ramirez&lt;/A&gt; is on the same frequency as you.

Speaking of wisdom, Bill Buckley&#039;s comment about the Boston phone book is looking more and more appropriate by the day.  Now that we ARE governed by the faculty of Harvard ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L3:</p>
<p>Cartoonist <a HREF="http://townhall.com/cartoons/cartoonist/MichaelRamirez/2009/06/3" rel="nofollow">Michael Ramirez</a> is on the same frequency as you.</p>
<p>Speaking of wisdom, Bill Buckley&#8217;s comment about the Boston phone book is looking more and more appropriate by the day.  Now that we ARE governed by the faculty of Harvard &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mongoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mongoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LL3, funny that you should mention that. Not only is he similar to the enarchs, he is collaborating (colluding?) with enarchs and their ilk world wide--a veritable army of them, in fact..

This is the core problem of out times: An arrogant and overreaching false aristocracy whose  ascendancy was built upon circumstance, serendipitous affluence  and the maturing collectivist state; their position was not earn by high, noble and exceptional character, aspects,capabilities or acts. They have not earned their position in any valid moral way. Yet they imagine that they have. Given the power of instruments of the modern world, these folks pose one of the greatest threats to civilization we have ever seen.

A thousand of these bozos at Davos, are more of a disaster than all the Golden Horde.
They can set back the project of civilization by centuries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LL3, funny that you should mention that. Not only is he similar to the enarchs, he is collaborating (colluding?) with enarchs and their ilk world wide&#8211;a veritable army of them, in fact..</p>
<p>This is the core problem of out times: An arrogant and overreaching false aristocracy whose  ascendancy was built upon circumstance, serendipitous affluence  and the maturing collectivist state; their position was not earn by high, noble and exceptional character, aspects,capabilities or acts. They have not earned their position in any valid moral way. Yet they imagine that they have. Given the power of instruments of the modern world, these folks pose one of the greatest threats to civilization we have ever seen.</p>
<p>A thousand of these bozos at Davos, are more of a disaster than all the Golden Horde.<br />
They can set back the project of civilization by centuries.</p>
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