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		<title>By: keaner</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/07/06/electing-god/comment-page-4/#comment-61337</link>
		<dc:creator>keaner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever form nationalized healthcare implementation in the US will take, it certainly won&#039;t be the opportunity for the gov&#039;t to &#039;control our lives&#039; and &#039;take all of my money taking care of freeloaders&#039;...

The hyperbole is a mile thick in here. The system in place now is, best case, broken. In reality, the system is barbaric. It excludes tens of millions of citizens and exists not to provide comfort but profit.

Change must come and there are many models in existance that provide far superior coverage to it&#039;s citizens than the US system provides now. My model, the Canadian one, while it has flaws is a wonderful thing. While I may pay more taxes, I know that now matter whether I have a job making 250k a yr or am broke and penniless, if my family ever needs care they will get it...and it won&#039;t cost me anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever form nationalized healthcare implementation in the US will take, it certainly won&#8217;t be the opportunity for the gov&#8217;t to &#8216;control our lives&#8217; and &#8216;take all of my money taking care of freeloaders&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>The hyperbole is a mile thick in here. The system in place now is, best case, broken. In reality, the system is barbaric. It excludes tens of millions of citizens and exists not to provide comfort but profit.</p>
<p>Change must come and there are many models in existance that provide far superior coverage to it&#8217;s citizens than the US system provides now. My model, the Canadian one, while it has flaws is a wonderful thing. While I may pay more taxes, I know that now matter whether I have a job making 250k a yr or am broke and penniless, if my family ever needs care they will get it&#8230;and it won&#8217;t cost me anything.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is, if we let it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is, if we let it.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/07/06/electing-god/comment-page-4/#comment-61189</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...because cannibalism is not strictly a gastronomic experience any more.&lt;/i&gt;
 
True, because God --or gods, or religion --forbade it (or was made to forbid it, perhaps by elders eyeing the sharp-toothed young around the clan campfire). But now that God and all that is banished from so many precincts, how long before our half-million years of barbarism swallow up our last few thousand of civilization?

Take a look at this essay on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2009/0522.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stone age genocide&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;because cannibalism is not strictly a gastronomic experience any more.</i></p>
<p>True, because God &#8211;or gods, or religion &#8211;forbade it (or was made to forbid it, perhaps by elders eyeing the sharp-toothed young around the clan campfire). But now that God and all that is banished from so many precincts, how long before our half-million years of barbarism swallow up our last few thousand of civilization?</p>
<p>Take a look at this essay on <a href="http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2009/0522.html" rel="nofollow">stone age genocide</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/07/06/electing-god/comment-page-4/#comment-61129</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art, Organ harvesting made it passé.  

&quot;Progressive&quot; thought has moved on from &quot;Soylent Green&quot; to &quot;Coma&quot; to &quot;Death Becomes Her.&quot; All that advanced under the influence of &quot;Night of the Living Dead.&quot;

As to 15% of Americans and Europeans endorsing it, I pray it is that small, but there&#039;s cause to doubt it. Recipients of &quot;donated&quot; organs may be too ready to accept a conscience numbing story as to the origin of their new body part. A scraping of the organ and DNA test could verify the story&#039;s veracity. Could their life extension be the product of far Eastern notoriety? Uh, STFU.

Bottom line: &quot;Soylent Green seems apropos for some reason&quot; because cannibalism is not strictly a gastronomic experience any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art, Organ harvesting made it passé.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Progressive&#8221; thought has moved on from &#8220;Soylent Green&#8221; to &#8220;Coma&#8221; to &#8220;Death Becomes Her.&#8221; All that advanced under the influence of &#8220;Night of the Living Dead.&#8221;</p>
<p>As to 15% of Americans and Europeans endorsing it, I pray it is that small, but there&#8217;s cause to doubt it. Recipients of &#8220;donated&#8221; organs may be too ready to accept a conscience numbing story as to the origin of their new body part. A scraping of the organ and DNA test could verify the story&#8217;s veracity. Could their life extension be the product of far Eastern notoriety? Uh, STFU.</p>
<p>Bottom line: &#8220;Soylent Green seems apropos for some reason&#8221; because cannibalism is not strictly a gastronomic experience any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Artofnoise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artofnoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soylent Green seems apropos for some reason.
Even the name is apropos.
The ultimate recycling event.
I would guess 15% of Americans and Europeans would endorse it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soylent Green seems apropos for some reason.<br />
Even the name is apropos.<br />
The ultimate recycling event.<br />
I would guess 15% of Americans and Europeans would endorse it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/07/06/electing-god/comment-page-4/#comment-60955</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I have now followed through on Wretchard&#039;s request in a comment on another thread. Spread the news on our own threads.

I reduced this story down to a subsequent question and a few words of expansion on the consequences of this story. If you would do me the honor of reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://pascalfervor.blogspot.com/2009/07/and-so-whats-consequence-of-being.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;And So, What&#039;s the Consequence of Being Deemed Unuseful?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; it will encourage me. 

Perhaps you might pose a similar question to those you know. I think it could spur a grassroots movement that can&#039;t be beat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I have now followed through on Wretchard&#8217;s request in a comment on another thread. Spread the news on our own threads.</p>
<p>I reduced this story down to a subsequent question and a few words of expansion on the consequences of this story. If you would do me the honor of reading <a href="http://pascalfervor.blogspot.com/2009/07/and-so-whats-consequence-of-being.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>And So, What&#8217;s the Consequence of Being Deemed Unuseful?</strong></a> it will encourage me. </p>
<p>Perhaps you might pose a similar question to those you know. I think it could spur a grassroots movement that can&#8217;t be beat.</p>
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		<title>By: tomw</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess the old &quot;It is for the children..&quot; will no longer work, no?

 I see a possibility of a negative Y-axis value:  You get to donate your kidneys, liver, and arteries/veins for grafts before they give you that last shot of Morphine to &#039;stop the pain&#039; (and also the breathing..).  Heart and lungs, corneas, etc left for post-mortem harvest.  And profit.  How many bars of goldLatinum ...

 All men are equal, it is just that some are more equal than others...
tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess the old &#8220;It is for the children..&#8221; will no longer work, no?</p>
<p> I see a possibility of a negative Y-axis value:  You get to donate your kidneys, liver, and arteries/veins for grafts before they give you that last shot of Morphine to &#8217;stop the pain&#8217; (and also the breathing..).  Heart and lungs, corneas, etc left for post-mortem harvest.  And profit.  How many bars of goldLatinum &#8230;</p>
<p> All men are equal, it is just that some are more equal than others&#8230;<br />
tom</p>
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		<title>By: Barry 0351</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry 0351</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when some minor bureacrat in the local system tells your suffering mom to go home and take a painkiller then you will understand what National Healthcare means, Deny, delay till you die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when some minor bureacrat in the local system tells your suffering mom to go home and take a painkiller then you will understand what National Healthcare means, Deny, delay till you die.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reilly.

Let&#039;s not forget that this halfast mandate was made necessary by the halfasity of the air bag mandate which preceded it. It was the logical consequence; deemed needed to protect air bag thinking. It was implemented because the bureaucrat&#039;s plea of &quot;amend it, don&#039;t end it&quot; near always succeeds. And so here we are.

This should be seen to be typical of Progressive incremental-ism in that it demonstrates the Rube Goldberg route to total statism, where everybody must be constrained in order to protect everybody else from any consequence of leaving them free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reilly.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that this halfast mandate was made necessary by the halfasity of the air bag mandate which preceded it. It was the logical consequence; deemed needed to protect air bag thinking. It was implemented because the bureaucrat&#8217;s plea of &#8220;amend it, don&#8217;t end it&#8221; near always succeeds. And so here we are.</p>
<p>This should be seen to be typical of Progressive incremental-ism in that it demonstrates the Rube Goldberg route to total statism, where everybody must be constrained in order to protect everybody else from any consequence of leaving them free.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roderick Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;I swear to goodness, i just saw, on the Fox Business channel, an ad — a high production-value ad that appears to’ve purchased a Disney license (voice-over a Cinderella clip, i think, was only half registering until the close), touting booster seats for the tykes.&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;

Buddy: I see that ad all the time. The most obnoxious aspect of it is the new &quot;4 ft. 9 in&quot; tall mandate for the upper height limit of who should be in a child seat. Shawn Johnson, the 17 year-old Olympic gold medal gymnast, would have to be in a child seat if she&#039;s a car passenger. Many slow-growing 12 and 13 year-olds would have to be in kiddie seats. It&#039;s so stupid and so contrary to the proper way to bring up a child as to make steam come out of my ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;I swear to goodness, i just saw, on the Fox Business channel, an ad — a high production-value ad that appears to’ve purchased a Disney license (voice-over a Cinderella clip, i think, was only half registering until the close), touting booster seats for the tykes.&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"</p>
<p>Buddy: I see that ad all the time. The most obnoxious aspect of it is the new &#8220;4 ft. 9 in&#8221; tall mandate for the upper height limit of who should be in a child seat. Shawn Johnson, the 17 year-old Olympic gold medal gymnast, would have to be in a child seat if she&#8217;s a car passenger. Many slow-growing 12 and 13 year-olds would have to be in kiddie seats. It&#8217;s so stupid and so contrary to the proper way to bring up a child as to make steam come out of my ears.</p>
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