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		<title>By: j willie</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/07/09/minus-eight/comment-page-3/#comment-61735</link>
		<dc:creator>j willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more of the same - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/crossingamerica/5810701/Down-the-Mississippi-delta-town-elects-first-black-mayor.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kiss my black ass&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more of the same &#8211; <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/crossingamerica/5810701/Down-the-Mississippi-delta-town-elects-first-black-mayor.html" rel="nofollow">kiss my black ass</a></p>
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		<title>By: blert</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/07/09/minus-eight/comment-page-3/#comment-61449</link>
		<dc:creator>blert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh...

Welcome to the aristocratic state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh&#8230;</p>
<p>Welcome to the aristocratic state.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has a scapegoat - Bush.

And Obama isn&#039;t doing anything but signing what the veto-proof Congress sends him and otherwise agrees with.

There&#039;s a fairly large element of the public that simply votes against the guy in power.  That&#039;s now Obama, scapegoat Bush though he may.

We are in very ugly, crazy times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has a scapegoat &#8211; Bush.</p>
<p>And Obama isn&#8217;t doing anything but signing what the veto-proof Congress sends him and otherwise agrees with.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a fairly large element of the public that simply votes against the guy in power.  That&#8217;s now Obama, scapegoat Bush though he may.</p>
<p>We are in very ugly, crazy times.</p>
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		<title>By: AWH</title>
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		<dc:creator>AWH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#118, 

Interesting announcement today from Palin that she will be backing any candidates who support her views of &quot;limited government, strong defense and &quot;energy independence.&quot;  I think that is the correct view and one that resonates with the public.

Also, I have gotten similar calls from tech recruiters.  People need to get things done, but they are utterly foolish about their recruiting.  They are lowballing their recruiters (and getting recruiters who have no clue and can barely speak English) and lowballing their hires - and almost certainly getting people who can&#039;t do the job.  2 hours is not even sufficient to randomly pick someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#118, </p>
<p>Interesting announcement today from Palin that she will be backing any candidates who support her views of &#8220;limited government, strong defense and &#8220;energy independence.&#8221;  I think that is the correct view and one that resonates with the public.</p>
<p>Also, I have gotten similar calls from tech recruiters.  People need to get things done, but they are utterly foolish about their recruiting.  They are lowballing their recruiters (and getting recruiters who have no clue and can barely speak English) and lowballing their hires &#8211; and almost certainly getting people who can&#8217;t do the job.  2 hours is not even sufficient to randomly pick someone.</p>
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		<title>By: WillDoMathForFood</title>
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		<dc:creator>WillDoMathForFood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>noprisoners @ 21, Old Salt @ 113: I have another data point on this. I live in Lancaster, CA, a fairly conservative community with a lot of us aerospace geeks - or at least our Congressman is a Republican. (Though there&#039;s a lot of criminals and families of criminals who follow their incarcerated relatives who&#039;ve gotten an all-expenses-paid vacation at the local state prison in Lancaster. My home has been robbed twice in the last six years, and I live in a &quot;nice&quot; neighborhood. Another way California punishes conservative communities: by exporting their most violent and ignorant liberals there.) But someone sent me a link that listed where the stimulus funds were being spent, by community. Lancaster and Palmdale, CA, population 250,000 or so combined, got $0.00 of the $787B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>noprisoners @ 21, Old Salt @ 113: I have another data point on this. I live in Lancaster, CA, a fairly conservative community with a lot of us aerospace geeks &#8211; or at least our Congressman is a Republican. (Though there&#8217;s a lot of criminals and families of criminals who follow their incarcerated relatives who&#8217;ve gotten an all-expenses-paid vacation at the local state prison in Lancaster. My home has been robbed twice in the last six years, and I live in a &#8220;nice&#8221; neighborhood. Another way California punishes conservative communities: by exporting their most violent and ignorant liberals there.) But someone sent me a link that listed where the stimulus funds were being spent, by community. Lancaster and Palmdale, CA, population 250,000 or so combined, got $0.00 of the $787B.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robo, sounds like a spinning top slowing down and going into wobble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robo, sounds like a spinning top slowing down and going into wobble.</p>
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		<title>By: Robohobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robohobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OldSalt @ 114: &quot;Can anyone point to any national leader of the GOP who has demonstrated any salt, courage, effectiveness, and most importantly, a willingness to go toe-to-toe to defend core GOP CONSERVATIVE principles against the Democrats and their now-nearly-government-owned press?&quot;

Nope, not a one. One of the reasons I advocate another movement:

&quot;Throw The Bums Out In 2010 &amp; 2012 - Reboot Congress&quot;

I do not care where it comes from but we must do away with the professional political classes. The elitists who believe they have a right to rule us. Those Ivy League snots from both sides of the supposed divide. Maybe The Constitution Party?

Subotai @ 115: &quot;Where I think I may differ from you, is that you seem to take it as a given that there will actually be a couple of more election cycles. I am not that optimistic.&quot;

As you know, I am with you there. The recent trends in legislation including Federal Detention Centers (Yup, that is what they are) outlined in HR 645 and hate crime laws - HR 1699(?) - speak about a coming storm that will make most cry. The 0bamamantion and Fascists&#039;R&#039;Us (Congress) seem to be making sure that the Republic disappears from view.

Just an o/t one for all. I got a call/message today. Some Indian guy who was unintelligible. I literally could not understand a word he said. Luckily he sent an email also. It turns out that they were looking for an IT PM to staff a 6 month contract but the window to fill was TWO HOURS! What the heck kind of IT PM will you get if you have that short a trigger to fill it? Just unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OldSalt @ 114: &#8220;Can anyone point to any national leader of the GOP who has demonstrated any salt, courage, effectiveness, and most importantly, a willingness to go toe-to-toe to defend core GOP CONSERVATIVE principles against the Democrats and their now-nearly-government-owned press?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope, not a one. One of the reasons I advocate another movement:</p>
<p>&#8220;Throw The Bums Out In 2010 &amp; 2012 &#8211; Reboot Congress&#8221;</p>
<p>I do not care where it comes from but we must do away with the professional political classes. The elitists who believe they have a right to rule us. Those Ivy League snots from both sides of the supposed divide. Maybe The Constitution Party?</p>
<p>Subotai @ 115: &#8220;Where I think I may differ from you, is that you seem to take it as a given that there will actually be a couple of more election cycles. I am not that optimistic.&#8221;</p>
<p>As you know, I am with you there. The recent trends in legislation including Federal Detention Centers (Yup, that is what they are) outlined in HR 645 and hate crime laws &#8211; HR 1699(?) &#8211; speak about a coming storm that will make most cry. The 0bamamantion and Fascists&#8217;R'Us (Congress) seem to be making sure that the Republic disappears from view.</p>
<p>Just an o/t one for all. I got a call/message today. Some Indian guy who was unintelligible. I literally could not understand a word he said. Luckily he sent an email also. It turns out that they were looking for an IT PM to staff a 6 month contract but the window to fill was TWO HOURS! What the heck kind of IT PM will you get if you have that short a trigger to fill it? Just unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: blert</title>
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		<dc:creator>blert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocketing unemployment will destroy the Democrat party.

U-6 is over 16%...

But U-6 leaves out:

Independent Contractors -- a very common employment mechanism in high tech and high skill positions generally. Lay-offs have been massive.

Illegal immigrant laborers -- the were working and they really lost their jobs. But they are under the radar. Job losses are staggering.

Sole-Proprietors -- one man shops are folding up. These people are unemployed but are never counted as such because they are capitalists.

Real Estate Brokers -- still on the books as a commissioned sales rep. Unfortunately, no sale has closed in the last 90 days. For the BLS such commissioned troops are still 100% employed. The cash flow reality is obviously quite different.

When these workers are tacked on to the U-6 it becomes plain that we have &lt;i&gt;already&lt;/i&gt; reached Great Depression unemployment levels.

In California we&#039;ve exceeded the Great Depression numbers. Out here it is reasonable to expect construction trades unemployment to surpass 80%.


Yet more job losses loom directly ahead: state governments are going to have to cut spending massively. Most of their spending is on paychecks and welfare. The payments are biased towards Democrat constituencies.

The Syn-CDO trap is being sprung. Kenosha Schools are already in litigation to get their millions back. Throughout the land public pension money is at hazard to the mega-bankers. The CDS held by big banking will re-float their balance sheets at the direct expense of these pension funds. In turn taxpayers across the land will have to pony up for the losses since the teacher&#039;s pension is an absolute obligation. Many municipalities will consequently go bankrupt.

All of the above will trigger a massive revulsion against the powers that be.

And as for the press: McClatchy CDS are priced for immediate bankruptcy already! The NY Times will have to go into Chapter 11 before the 2010 campaign -- borrowing money at 14% says everything. Pinch will really be feeling the pinch!

I&#039;m expecting a train wreck, a currency crisis and a political crisis.

Already China is doing its best to abandon the dollar. Dollar revulsion would trigger hyperinflation.

Now that&#039;s a Reset Button !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocketing unemployment will destroy the Democrat party.</p>
<p>U-6 is over 16%&#8230;</p>
<p>But U-6 leaves out:</p>
<p>Independent Contractors &#8212; a very common employment mechanism in high tech and high skill positions generally. Lay-offs have been massive.</p>
<p>Illegal immigrant laborers &#8212; the were working and they really lost their jobs. But they are under the radar. Job losses are staggering.</p>
<p>Sole-Proprietors &#8212; one man shops are folding up. These people are unemployed but are never counted as such because they are capitalists.</p>
<p>Real Estate Brokers &#8212; still on the books as a commissioned sales rep. Unfortunately, no sale has closed in the last 90 days. For the BLS such commissioned troops are still 100% employed. The cash flow reality is obviously quite different.</p>
<p>When these workers are tacked on to the U-6 it becomes plain that we have <i>already</i> reached Great Depression unemployment levels.</p>
<p>In California we&#8217;ve exceeded the Great Depression numbers. Out here it is reasonable to expect construction trades unemployment to surpass 80%.</p>
<p>Yet more job losses loom directly ahead: state governments are going to have to cut spending massively. Most of their spending is on paychecks and welfare. The payments are biased towards Democrat constituencies.</p>
<p>The Syn-CDO trap is being sprung. Kenosha Schools are already in litigation to get their millions back. Throughout the land public pension money is at hazard to the mega-bankers. The CDS held by big banking will re-float their balance sheets at the direct expense of these pension funds. In turn taxpayers across the land will have to pony up for the losses since the teacher&#8217;s pension is an absolute obligation. Many municipalities will consequently go bankrupt.</p>
<p>All of the above will trigger a massive revulsion against the powers that be.</p>
<p>And as for the press: McClatchy CDS are priced for immediate bankruptcy already! The NY Times will have to go into Chapter 11 before the 2010 campaign &#8212; borrowing money at 14% says everything. Pinch will really be feeling the pinch!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m expecting a train wreck, a currency crisis and a political crisis.</p>
<p>Already China is doing its best to abandon the dollar. Dollar revulsion would trigger hyperinflation.</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s a Reset Button !</p>
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		<title>By: j willie</title>
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		<dc:creator>j willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See this graph at Instapundit that highlights the &quot;Mancession&quot; - the growing disparity in unemployment among men (10.5%) and women (8%) - for another factor that will fuel the racial backlash.  My guess is that 10.5% also skews heavily white and blue collar.  Nothing fuels the resentments of that demographic more than their own unemployment, continued affirmative action hiring policies that discriminate against them finding a job and the continued overreach of the Liberals and their race hustler allies.

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/81624/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See this graph at Instapundit that highlights the &#8220;Mancession&#8221; &#8211; the growing disparity in unemployment among men (10.5%) and women (8%) &#8211; for another factor that will fuel the racial backlash.  My guess is that 10.5% also skews heavily white and blue collar.  Nothing fuels the resentments of that demographic more than their own unemployment, continued affirmative action hiring policies that discriminate against them finding a job and the continued overreach of the Liberals and their race hustler allies.</p>
<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/81624/" rel="nofollow">http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/81624/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Subotai Bahadur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Subotai Bahadur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#112 OldSalt

Agreed, we are running on the same track.  Not an elected official, but a delegate up to the State Convention level every year since 1980, with the exception of the year we lost a son.  I have run a presidential campaign in my county.  The Republicans are circling the toilet bowl and their own leadership hit the flush lever.

I&#039;m technically a Republican still; but if a third party comes out of the Tea Parties, I&#039;m there.  If the Republican &lt;em&gt;Politburo&lt;/em&gt; forces Crist in Florida, or blocks Toomey in Pennsylvania by finding a RINO to guarantee the Democrats keep the seat; I&#039;ll be in the Constitution Party.

Where I think I may differ from you, is that you seem to take it as a given that there will actually be a couple of more election cycles.  I am not that optimistic.

Subotai Bahadur</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#112 OldSalt</p>
<p>Agreed, we are running on the same track.  Not an elected official, but a delegate up to the State Convention level every year since 1980, with the exception of the year we lost a son.  I have run a presidential campaign in my county.  The Republicans are circling the toilet bowl and their own leadership hit the flush lever.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m technically a Republican still; but if a third party comes out of the Tea Parties, I&#8217;m there.  If the Republican <em>Politburo</em> forces Crist in Florida, or blocks Toomey in Pennsylvania by finding a RINO to guarantee the Democrats keep the seat; I&#8217;ll be in the Constitution Party.</p>
<p>Where I think I may differ from you, is that you seem to take it as a given that there will actually be a couple of more election cycles.  I am not that optimistic.</p>
<p>Subotai Bahadur</p>
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