103 Comments

1. David Thomson:

“Peter Roff, a conservative writing in U.S. News and World Report…”

Who in heaven’s name is Peter Roff? He merely sounds like another Uncle Tom Republican who wants to adored by the “elites.” In other words, this Roff character is similar to Colin Powell. Sarah Palin looks like a sane and balanced whizz kid—next to Joe Biden. The vice-president elect is a buffoon who rarely knows what he is talking about. I am also convinced that if Biden were a Republican there would be much talk about the need for him to undergo a psychiatric examination. And no, I am not joking!

Dec 29, 2008 - 1:19 pm 2. Phineas:

Roff sounds like he didn’t study the issue closely before writing about it; the contrast between Palin and Kennedy is like night and day. Liberal writers, too, such as Ruth Marcus, would be able to see it if their intellectual honesty hadn’t been smothered by a fawning worship of all things “Camelot.”

Dec 29, 2008 - 4:58 pm 3. Pajamas Media » Caroline Kennedy is No Sarah Palin:

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Dec 30, 2008 - 3:02 am 4. Cindy Sue Causey:

Gov. Palin worked for everything she has; she never waited around to be crowned.

Had you expressed nothing else, you had your article written there.. Twitter much..?

Yesterday saw an article teaser saying Caroline was the best for the job.. “Ohhh-kay,” I thought, “I’ll bite..” Turned out that it was purportedly Caroline herself calling herself the best.. Alrighty then. )

From a less judgmental angle, will say that there is something to the Life experience thing.. And I’m 100% with Lynn Sweet (Washington bureau chief for the Chicago Sun-Times) that there is no clear path, well, really to anything in politics.. But still.. City council or something along those lines to get one’s feet wet first, maybe..?

Can’t help but wonder out loud if she in the back of her head is figuring on ditching her (potential) constituents for the White House in less than four..

Too.

Dec 30, 2008 - 3:59 am 5. TPitman:

All I know is, after watching O’Reilly run the audio of the NYT interview with Kennedy last night, he hit the nail right on the head: the woman sounds like a teenager. I couldn’t believe that anyone could give her a pass after the ridiculous responses she gave. It reminded me of the 2007 Miss Teen USA contestant from South Carolina response to why Americans can’t find Iraq on a map . . .” It is my belief that, such as,” and so on. Someone needs to take Caroline to one side and tell her to drop her bid for the Senate. It’s just too embarassing to watch. How the hell did she ever get out of Harvard?

Dec 30, 2008 - 4:19 am 6. quasar:

The Princess trading on her last name or The Breck Girl (John Edwards in Rio Linda) trading on his hair: what’s the difference?
By-passing the liberal minds Critical Faculty is coming into a new age. Now it is things like the name, the hair, the tan etc. that are important to libs. Experience?…Tenure?…Voting record?…Gone! BTW, where would Sarah be if her last name wasn’t Palin?

Dec 30, 2008 - 5:15 am 7. David Thomson:

“How the hell did she ever get out of Harvard?”

Harvard University is an intellectual scam operation. Only its hard science graduates are truly among the best in the world. Those who obtain a liberal arts degree from Harvard are often dumber than a rock. Many people fail to realize that affirmative action grading also helps rich white kids. Once the standards are lowed for minorities—the affluent whites soon afterwards jump onto the gravy train. Caroline Kennedy is obviously one of those who have taken advantage of this laughable situation. It is therefore very fair to treat a soft science graduate from our “elite” universities as an idiot until proven otherwise.

Dec 30, 2008 - 6:29 am 8. syn:

The only requirement the Democrat Party cares about is whether Madam Kennedy has the money to buy votes.

The only thing worse than a stupid socialist is the billionaire socialist; the Kennedy Klan is the most foul of all billionaire socialists.

Dec 30, 2008 - 6:52 am 9. David B:

To me, one of the most stark differences between the media’s handling of Biden vs. Palin was the response to Biden’s comments about FDR going on TV to soothe the worried American public after the Wall St. crash in ‘29. Just imagine if Palin had said something that ignorant and stupid. We would have been treated to the video replay on the 1/2 hour by every news outlet but Fox. Biden got a total pass. Nevertheless, they piled on about her being able to see Russia from her house – a far less onerous gaffe.

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:11 am 10. Scott:

Caroline does not need to and will not make any decisions. All her votes and direction will come from her family. The less she knows or rather, cares to, is even better for the clan as she This creates the environment that allows a person this unqualified and inept to have a very good chance of taking this important seat.

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:14 am 11. peterike:

@David Thompson. Harvard University is an intellectual scam operation… Those who obtain a liberal arts degree from Harvard are often dumber than a rock.

Too true. An English degree from Harvard once meant a deep knowledge of literary classics, Shakespeare, Milton, Dante — all those Dead White Males. Now, it basically means you were able to parrot back whatever line of oppression fantasies your professor was spouting.

And while the acceptance process is quite rigorous in general and they do get a lot of very smart kids (whom they proceed to ruin with idiot Leftist ideas), the screening process for a Kennedy is basically, “yup, you’re in.”

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:15 am 12. misanthropicus:

I am always amused by liberals’ rapidity in credentializing their favorites and Caroline Kennedy is another illustration of this situation – she is constantly referred to as a “lawyer”, as a “Harvard product” then, in an almost religious tone, “she wrote a book about constitution”.

So here are some legitimate questions for anyone praising Caroline’s achievements:
a) Can anyone describe just one, just a single legal case argued by Caroline Kennedy along her edifying juridical career? I think we have a problem here -

b) Harvard – my! She was accepted at Harvard as a KENNEDY, not as a regular applicant. Her grades might have warranted her addmission there (although I doubt that), but all her student trajectory, up to the unavoidable “cum laude” graduation there occurred under teachers ‘and administration’s active benevolence.

c) she wrote a book about constitution – her effort was probably sympathetically reviewed here and there, but heavens! anyone can – and does – write books about constitution! Is her effort better than Tom Hayden’s “Potatos Problems in 19th Century Ireland?” another trailblazing effort by a towering American intellectual? I guess Caroline’s printed matter can be remorselessly placed on the same shelf with Hayden’s.

I wasn’t/am not a Palin supporter, but it looks to me that she had a honorable career so so far – as far as as Caroline, all that can be said about her is that she was observed during the past thirty years stumbling from cocktail party to cocktail party, hardly a qualifier for the US senate job.

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:24 am 13. Kirk:

David B wrote…
Nevertheless, they piled on about her being able to see Russia from her house – a far less onerous gaffe.

That was SNL.

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:34 am 14. Saltherring:

Kirk @ 13:

Is there a difference?

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:39 am 15. David B:

I stick to my guns about Biden – imagine if Palin had said that about FDR!

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:52 am 16. BillMax:

13.Kirk were you being sarcastic? Gov Palin said you could see Russia from her state. Tina Fey impersonating Gov Palin said she could see Russia from her house. I’d love to see Tina Fey do a skit about Ms Kennedy.

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:59 am 17. BillMax:

13.Kirk Oops, didn’t realize you were responding to an earlier comment. My bad

Dec 30, 2008 - 8:00 am 18. tommy jonq:

qualifications, shmalifications. freshman senators don’t do anything, anyway. she wouldn’t even have to move to washington. think about caro-k’s donor list. think about caro-k’s endorsement of bam-o over godzillary, then think of her waltzing up and helping herself to godzillary’s senate seat. think of senator caroline handing a kennedy center for the performing arts lifetime achievement award to senator oprah. lieberman uber alles!

http://politiqs.tommyjonq.com

Dec 30, 2008 - 8:17 am 19. sherlock:

I thought it was just possible that Roff was engaging in stealth satire in order to draw out the true Kool-ade drinkers, but one would have expected confirmation of that by now…

Dec 30, 2008 - 9:16 am 20. TexEd:

Hey, let’s give Caroline credit. She’s met Paterson’s price and is entitled to the seat! Governor Paterson is advised by his neighbor, Charlie Rangel, and knows how to quietly exact a bribe. Caroline’s got the cash, has paid or promised to pay Paterson; she’s bought the seat fair and square so back off!

Dec 30, 2008 - 9:39 am 21. seven:

David B
Nevertheless, they piled on about her being able to see Russia from her house – a far less onerous gaffe.

the above quote was from Tina Fey on SNL and not from Gov Palin.

caroline kennedy writes her own hummor. She makes Biden seem boring.

Dec 30, 2008 - 10:23 am 22. Fred:

“Caroline Kennedy is no Sarah Palin.”

True but neither is Hillary Clinton. Caroline thinks she is entitled to the senate seat because of her father and Hillary would be chasing ambulances in Arkansas if not for her husband. Sarah is the self made most popular governor in the US and the other two are loser coattail riders.

Dec 30, 2008 - 10:46 am 23. David S:

I’m still waiting to learn what makes Palin “uniquely qualified”. From what I can see, spouting right wing talking points and demonstrating an ignorance of the world outside Alaska. Oh well.

DS

Dec 30, 2008 - 10:49 am 24. Rose Colored Glasses:

Caroline Kennedy would not be able to get a good job with her speaking ability. She wouldn’t make it through an interview. Uncle Teddy probably finally pulled her chain. He’s probably thinking that she can be easily trained before he kicks the bucket; he will also have to decide who she will trust and convience her of this. This is all about crical placement of the Kennedy family to hold a seat until another Kennedy is prepared. This probably wasn’t supposed to ever happen, but it did, and she’s not prepared.

Dec 30, 2008 - 10:58 am 25. FLMom:

For the Obamites who keep embarrassing themselves with their ignorance of geology, please consider the following:

At their closest Alaska and Russia are 2.5 miles apart – the distance between Little Diomede Island, Alaska, and Big Diomede Island, Russia.

More
http://www.pbs.org/harriman/current/profiles/diomede.html

Dec 30, 2008 - 11:11 am 26. Fred:

David S

Those rumors of Palin’s ignorance about the world outside Alaska are just that, rumors. You demonstrate your ignorance by repeating them. Idiot!

Dec 30, 2008 - 11:33 am 27. MikeD:

You have a valid point FLMom but I believe it is more an issue of geography than it is of geology. Still……, rocks is rocks.

Dec 30, 2008 - 11:41 am 28. seven:

Now one is as educated in Geography as The One Obama. He has been to all 57 states.

Democrats lower the bar on education.

Dec 30, 2008 - 11:44 am 29. Edward A:

Does being governor of a state hardly means one is qualified? We witnessed Bush, who had a successful run as governor, fail miserably these last eight years (is he not America’s least respected President?) Both Bush and Palin have major shortfalls; listening to both is to watch ineptitude and ignorance at its full range.

Dec 30, 2008 - 11:47 am 30. AST:

I was hoping someone more prominent than I would make this comparison.

Caroline isn’t exactly having rose petals strewn in her path, but she proves that the Kennedy cachet still gets you quite far before people begin to notice what a dullard you are. She has all the charisma of a recluse.

Dec 30, 2008 - 11:57 am 31. seven:

Ok Edward. List Obama’s accomplishments. Talk about a white resume. Recycling gang members from Blagojevich and mayor Dailey isn’t exactly accomplishing anything. Obama is still a boat full of slogans and no results.
A real low achievers delight.

Dec 30, 2008 - 11:58 am 32. jerryofva:

Edward A and David S:

I just love it when you Obama fanatics keep repeating your talking points about Republicans. It just gives me a tingle up and down my leg to see how you have fallen for political equivalent of the Madoff scam. Obama thinks Bush’s national security, homeland security and much of his economic policy are so bad that he is setting the stage for W’s third term. You thought you got Tony Benn but instead it looks like Tony Blair. You are so dumb you don’t even know how badly you have been conned. Last laugh is on you.

Dec 30, 2008 - 12:07 pm 33. Steve P.:

seven: “Ok Edward. List Obama’s accomplishments. Talk about a white resume. Recycling gang members from Blagojevich and mayor Dailey isn’t exactly accomplishing anything. Obama is still a boat full of slogans and no results. A real low achievers delight.”

Yeah, because most of the presidents of the Harvard Law Review that I know are really low achievers.

Dec 30, 2008 - 12:11 pm 34. Bob:

Look, Governor Patterson is searching for someone who’s a reliable Democrat, and Princess Caroline of Kennedy fits that description to a tee. If he appoints someone else – like someone who has a brain or can at least utter an articulate sentence – the new junior Senator from New York might (a) stand a better chance of winning “reelection” in 2010 and (b) might advance the Democrat/liberal cause. As a Republican, I’m cool with Senator Princess. There is the Article I, Section 9 Constitutional argument, I suppose (No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States), but if Hillary can get past her own Article I, Section 6 problem (No Senator … shall, during the Time for which he [or she?] was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time), the I’m sure the Princess will have no real obstacle to her ascension to the Senate.

Dec 30, 2008 - 12:13 pm 35. kevin c:

how did a KENNEDY get out of HAH-VARD? Well, the same way OBAMASCUM got in. Some scumbag American hating COMMIE paid his way in. HAH-VARD has a $35 million endowment drawing 8% interest per year. with roughly 20,000 students attending per year, HAH-VARD shouldnt even be charging tuition. The interest alone on there endowment can pay 50k/yr for 20,000 students. Of course ,since HAH-VARD is full of COMMIE SCUM, they can be as GREEDY as they want to be. Of course, they teach there students that only GOVERNMENTS are allowed to be “greedy”. Businesses in search of a profit are all deemed to be “evil”

Dec 30, 2008 - 12:15 pm 36. Steve P.:

Yeah, so both Caroline Kennedy and Sarah Palin are ignorant buffoons who don’t have the intelligence or experience necessary to hold office. Next.

Dec 30, 2008 - 12:24 pm 37. Войска ПВО:

“Yeah, because most of the presidents of the Harvard Law Review that I know are really low achievers.”

Most may be not, but Obama sure didn’t light up the score board when he presided over the HLR.

Vacuous, vapid, pathetic empty suit that the American public will tire of in three years.

Dec 30, 2008 - 1:23 pm 38. Brian C.:

NBC needed Tina Fey and a cast of writers to make Sarah Palin appear dumb. It doesn’t need anyone to help make Caroline Kennedy look dumb; she does it all by herself.

Thankfully Gov. Palin is free from John McCain and the idiots that ran his campaign.

Dec 30, 2008 - 1:28 pm 39. Dr. Bukk:

Sarah Palin’s parents were excellent trappers who often worked for the Wildlife people to get rid of non-native species on islands. They were hired by New York to keep rats out of the 9/11 site quite a job when you think about it. Sarah has proven she can ferret out rats in the good-old-boy Alaskan machine. Ms. Kennedy likes to pal around with shakedown artists, a.k.a. democRATS.

Dec 30, 2008 - 1:47 pm 40. David S:

@38

Palin did not need any help to look dumb – SNL had to make her appear more articulate than she actually is just to make the jokes work!

@26

Palin can’t even speak in complete sentences. She is so ignorant and inarticulate, George Bush looks halfway intelligent in comparison. Without Bush’s family name and connections, Palin is just a vacuous figurehead for the rabid right wing. Her ignorance of the world outside Alaska is well established. You can easily google a thousand instances of her ignorance. She doesn’t know the most basic history, and certainly nobody can claim that she has the judgement needed to be Commander in Chief. At least not without lying.

DS

Dec 30, 2008 - 2:08 pm 41. JAMES:

David s writes about how Governor Palin can’t speak in full setntences.
Did you hear caroline’s interview with the NY Times?
I am not certain that she is trading on her name nut whneever she publishes a book her married name is conspicuosly missing.
What I am wondering is when the media will jump on her or SNL begin to parody her as they did with Gov. Palin.

Dec 30, 2008 - 2:52 pm 42. Steve P.:

Palin so dumb, she think the Bush Doctrine is the guy that W. goes to when he feelin’ sick.

Dec 30, 2008 - 2:58 pm 43. Ann:

41 Steve P

Your comment says far more about you that it does about Mrs. Palin.

Dec 30, 2008 - 3:14 pm 44. Mel:

Steve P. Is Palin too dumb to write a grammatically correct sentence?

Dec 30, 2008 - 3:52 pm 45. malclave:

“Well, yes, she meets the mere constitutional standards: she is over 35 and has a pulse.”

30… 35 is for President. So you see, she has even MORE life experience than the minimum required!

comment 40:
“Palin did not need any help to look dumb – SNL had to make her appear more articulate than she actually is just to make the jokes work!”

Spoken like someone who has drunk deeply of the Kool-Aid, and gone back for seconds while complaining it wasn’t strong enough.

Dec 30, 2008 - 3:57 pm 46. Webutante:

Good piece, Richard, and couldn’t agree with you more. I like the Emerson quote on consistency….never heard it before.

Dec 30, 2008 - 4:23 pm 47. JadedVA:

Watching the different treatment of Palin and *cough* Kennedy is… well, I can’t decide if it’s more painful or more nauseating.

@42 and 43– Ann, you nailed it. Steve P, get back to us when you’ve got a few debates under your belt and at *least* been elected a Mayor. Perhaps then you can begin to appreciate the absurdity of how easily you are able to dismiss Palin. We sure have a lot of political armchair jockeys lately (or monday morning quarterbacks, your pick).

Without “the name” ala Kennedy, Palin managed to become a governor. Whether you like it or not, truth is she ran (runs) a state. If she were even half as dumb as she was made out to be during the election, she couldn’t run a Taco Bell much less Alaska. I am so DONE with the Democratic party. The double standards are infuriating.

I love how everyone is so quick to dismiss anything Palin has done. And how fast they push Caroline toward sainthood now. Who’s accomplished what again? It would be funnier if it weren’t so pathetic. And predictable.

Dec 30, 2008 - 4:34 pm 48. Adam S.:

I had a liberal friend of mine tell me that her problem with Sarah Palin is that she just wasn’t very intelligent. I’m pretty sure she doesn’t have the same opinion of a Kennedy.

Dec 30, 2008 - 5:01 pm 49. David S:

@43 Ann

If you can’t even read a comment thread correctly, what does that say about you?

@41 James

The media has already jumped on Kennedy, as evidenced by this article. The funny thing is, she is actually reasonably intelligent. Her answers were given in complete sentences, and she was not tripped up by the wily reporters that made Palin fall flat on her face. Kennedy is certainly trading on her name to some degree – it is one of the tools she brings to the job. SNL will parody her when they can get a laugh.

Palin, of course, can generate plenty of laughs without SNL’s assistance.

DS

Dec 30, 2008 - 5:15 pm 50. myth buster:

BTW, Harvard’s endowment is $35 billion, not $35 million. Personally, I think what the elitists can’t stand is a self-made leader who didn’t graduate from an Ivy League school. Regarding the non-Ivy League school, forget Palin and consider McCain. He graduated from Annapolis, something that these elitists could never accomplish. Sure, he got in as a legacy student, but legacy doesn’t keep you at Annapolis. It doesn’t even get you through Plebe Summer. If you enter with a chip on your shoulder, the upperclassmen will do everything in their power to make you regret it. They already go in with the mentality of doing everything in their power to make plebes quit.

Dec 30, 2008 - 5:24 pm 51. Eugene Car:

The real issue here is not Caroline Kennedy. It is the process of bypassing of the democratic process by use of appontment instead of election to fill vacant seats. In Alaska after Gov Murkoski appoined his daughter, they changed the law to allow a temporary appointment followed by election within a few months. If we had such a system in New York (and Illinois), the current controversy could be avoided. Caroline couls simply run for election–like Hillary did.

Dec 30, 2008 - 5:30 pm 52. Daivie:

The Coming Palin Winter

When Palin becomes president in 2012, it will be worse for the U.S. than a Nuclear Winter. Roe V Wade will be overturned, gays will go into hiding, the economy will end up in a depression and China and Russia will emerge as the true world leaders both economically and militarily. Caroline Kennedy–very Eleanor Rooseveltesque in character and intelligence and clearly the anti Palin–will end up meaningless in an America where policy is dictated by the lunatic fringe, and with pathetic neo-con heros on the order of Palin, Limbaugh and Hannity.

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:27 pm 53. gs:

According to not-always-reliable Wikipedia, Kennedy graduated in the upper 10% of her class at Columbia Law School.

By itself, that doesn’t make her qualified for the Senate. It does suggest that her negative interactions with the press might be due to inexperience and not to being a ditz.

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:28 pm 54. ate mely:

God have mercy on us! Another up and coming Catholic, pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage politician. Is she still Catholic?

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:32 pm 55. Don Rhudy:

Compared to Kennedy Schlossberg, Palin is an Einstein.

Don Rhudy

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:45 pm 56. Joe T:

I remember Biden saying that Palin should support stem cell research because she had a Down syndrome child. Got that? Stem cells are nano-robots that excise extra chromosomes and reverse pre-natal developmental problems. This according to the smart (by Democratic standards) Democratic VP candidate. Oh, wait, I know. It’s part of a nuanced “bigger picture.”

What baffles me is that they can imagine their evaluation of intelligence can be important considering when what comes from their side – unnoticed – so very, childishly stupid.

Stupidity is the label the label the very stupid on the left use to paint people they don’t like. These are people who cannot even muster a junior high school science education and they they think they have the right to mention intelligence.

Truly – morons.

Dec 30, 2008 - 7:46 pm 57. Kevin:

It’s funny, but I seem to remember that our last Democrat President (allegedly a “Rhodes scholar” but easily coming from lower redneck, white trash stock than Sarah Palin ever could)couldn’t define the meaning of “is”, couldn’t pronounce “chameleon”, flirted with a mummy, confused the Gettysburg Address with the Constitution and the Declaraton of Independence, and surveyed the horizon from the deck of a warship without removing the lens covers from the binoculars.

And his VP, supposedly a genius (at lying maybe) mistranslated our national motto, thought that a zebra had spots, couldn’t identify statues of our Founding Fathers, and was even stupid enough to ask out loud who they were.

The only difference is that none of these were deemed worthy to be beaten into the collective skull of the American public in the obligatory soundbite every five minutes. Ahh, the competence of our fair and unbiased newsmedia.

Sorry you lib-zombies, but intelligence-wise Palin still comes out way ahead.

Dec 30, 2008 - 8:42 pm 58. ChuckT:

Comment #5,TPitman: right on, brother re: the Miss Teen USA Iraq/map comment. Do a YouTube search on Caroline K. & “you know” to see her incoherent sentences with heavy doses of “you know” throughout. She got out of Hah-vaad the same way she got in: she’s a Kennedy.
Comment #7,David Thompson: correct-a-mundo on the Hah-vaad liberal art degree grads. Ditto on peterike’s comment.
Comment #35,Kevin C: check your math & show your work, although #50 myth buster has already pointed out your error.
Comment #40 David S & #42 Steve P: Disagree with both, but Steve P shouldn’t cast any dumb stones until he can write a correct sentence. Good comment, #43 Ann.
Now, Caroline K’s attempt to get anointed to the Senate seat is nothing but a crass power grab. The woman is banking (literally) on her name & family money. Is it too much to ask that she run for and be elected to city council, or perhaps even school board, before making a claim to a US Senate seat? I might even settle for unelected PTA participation. Heaven forbid she should have to get out and actually meet & talk to voters, and mingle with the “Harry Reid smelly” voters, i.e. those who actually pay Senators’ salaries. I have never understood America’s (although I do understand the fawning media’s) fascination with the Kennedy family. Joe Kennedy was nothing but a crook who made much of his money in prohibition liquor, gambling, prostitution, & connections to organized crime. I have a friend who believes Bill Clinton is Joe Kennedy’s illegitimate son. Think about it: 1940’s Crime boss + Hot Springs, AR (a then-popular crime boss vacation spot) + Clinton’s 1962 meeting a half-brother(?) President as a Boys’ Nation delegate = a not-so-crazy theory. Palin is far more qualified for a Senate seat than Kennedy. Even though Senator Mark Pryor told Bill Maher, “You don’t have to pass an intelligence test to serve in the U.S. Senate,” Kennedy has zero public policy experience. I suppose under Pryor’s acid-test, however, Kennedy is qualified. Caroline should go back to attending Manhattan cocktail parties, or run for office (I might be satisfied even if she lost) before making a claim to a U.S. Senate seat. The media gives Kennedy the kid-gloves treatment & SNL will not treat her the same way they did Palin. Despite the left’s maniacal outbursts, Palin actually would’ve made a great VP, far better than Biden. The best part about that is that Palin would’ve driven the left absolutely bonkers (yes, I know they already are) up the wall for the next 4 years. Funny how the transition team (the-never-before-heard-of “Office of the Pres-Elect”) has kept Biden’s mouth sewed shut since November 4.

Dec 30, 2008 - 9:31 pm 59. mk:

“The Coming Palin Winter

When Palin becomes president in 2012, it will be worse for the U.S. than a Nuclear Winter. Roe V Wade will be overturned, gays will go into hiding, the economy will end up in a depression and China and Russia will emerge as the true world leaders both economically and militarily. Caroline Kennedy–very Eleanor Rooseveltesque in character and intelligence and clearly the anti Palin–will end up meaningless in an America where policy is dictated by the lunatic fringe, and with pathetic neo-con heros on the order of Palin, Limbaugh and Hannity.”

Are you insane? OH, wait, never mind, your crackpot post already said so.

FYI – we’re already in a recession – thank Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton for that one!!!
Russia’s already flexing its muscles and trying to become a world leader again. What the hell do you think that Georgia thing was about? Or selling nuclear intelligence to Iran?
China’s already a world leader.

Obama’s the 21st century version of Neville Chamberlain. And he ain’t even in office yet!

Dec 30, 2008 - 9:58 pm 60. Saltherring:

Daivie @ 52 says the election of Sarah Palin will bring upon “an America where policy is dictated by the lunatic fringe”.

Huh?…I thought that was happening this coming January 20th……?

Dec 30, 2008 - 10:29 pm 61. Linda Mae:

The latest Gallop Poll had Hillary as the number 1 admired woman followed by Sarah Palin. Oprah was a distant 3rd. And that’s a fact.

Many negative Palin comments show ignorance of the facts. You need to do your homework. First – stop watching network news and realize that SNL is liberal first and foremost. Then, spend some time watching YouTube Palin interviews. The only one that she completely flopped was with Katie. We don’t know what the original footage was like before it was edited for viewing. We do know that Gibson was ignorant of the term “Bush Doctrine.” It has changed several times and it has NEVER been labeled as such. When you compare the questions asked of Obama to those thrown at Palin, you must admit that the press was biased and in love with Barry.

Dec 31, 2008 - 12:35 am 62. Daivie:

We’re missing the point when we debate the intelligence of Palin vs Kennedy. Firstly, there is no comparison–Kennedy is head and shoulders above the imbecile Palin, and down deep even the right wing wackos know that. The real issue is that to us liberal elites, Palin is the most repulsive, grotesque reactionary to enter the national political scene since Spiro Agnew. Now that oil is dropping like a rock and causing her popularity to drop at the same rate in Alaska (because the state’s finances are in a shambbles and she can not continue to “share the wealth” as she had done ) our hope is she is unelectable to any office. What is more, we liberals hope all red states secede soon.

Dec 31, 2008 - 4:15 am 63. Robert Hurley:

Seven:

Talk about low achievers – ever look in the mirror

Dec 31, 2008 - 9:59 am 64. Carolb:

“What is more, we liberals hope all red states secede soon.”

That would be interesting. Because, you know all the illegal aliens, anyone living in poverty, the uneducated, drug abusers, criminals, etc., will all gravitate to the liberal/blue states – they wouldn’t have to work, since the government would take care of all their needs, and could get away with pretty much anything.

Dec 31, 2008 - 10:43 am 65. narciso:

Weak troll, Daivie, no wonder you’re scared of her, you really think she could singlehandedly reverse Roe V. Wade; I’m not that confident. Could she participate in a dialogue
where abortion might be less neccesary, remember she is a Feminist for Life. Left to her own devices, she’s no Savanarola; she basically let gay marriage happen, by pocket veto in Alaska. Those who hung her in effigy! in West
Hollywood, probably didn’t get the memo. Russia is a basketcase, threatened much more systematically by falling oil prices than Alaska, and the AIDS pandemic,underpopulation,
encroachment of Islam from the Caucasus, the failed effort in Chechnya, and China to the West. China’ a decrepid oligarchy all it’s own. If oil prices continue to be that low, it will be a sign that we are in a depression, because there is no demand. That’s much more serious than anything Sarah might do.
Those little digs she made, really got under your skin, didn’t
they. By the way she vanquishes corrupt politicos, not like Agnew at all. She’s not a threat, so don’t worry your head about it. Unless she is, is probably more of the truth; all the efforts sliming her otherwise were pointless.

Dec 31, 2008 - 11:04 am 66. JayH:

Right on the mark again, Richard. The difference in their qualifications is greater than the distance between Alaska and NY. Sarah Palin has proven herself to be a capable governor and has survived the most outrageous attempts to smear her name that we will likely see in our lifetime. Ms. Kennedy’s desire for a Senate seat is nothing more than opportunism in the extreme, shamelessly attempting to cash in on the family name.

Dec 31, 2008 - 11:04 am 67. William:

Did Caroline Kennedy or the other three rock-heads in the past election:

Ever develop a budget for their state?

Decide whether or not legislation that would affect all their state’s citizens should be signed or not?

Negoiate with oil companies to return part of their profits to their state?

Help arrange for the trans-Canada natural gas pipeline?

Be Commander-in-Chief of their state’s National Guard?

Work to protect their state’s role in international fishing rights?

Do all of the above while raising a family?

Of course the answer is “no”. For qualifications, Palin outshines them all.

Dec 31, 2008 - 11:06 am 68. Speedypete:

What do we elect these people to do for us? I was a New Yorker and we watched Mayor Lindsay and Dinkins ruin New York City. Even my Bohack on my block had barbed wire strung around it. The only smart politician from New York in recent times has been Mayor Guiliani. Why? Because he cleaned it up, controlled spending the hard working peoples money and everyone I know that remained there said life was better and safer. I have watched Caroline Kennedy stumble through two interviews and she would be of no more benefit to New York then “career” politicians Senator Schumer, Senator Clinton, Governors Cuomo, Spitzer or Patterson. When most of their millions for reelection comes from the corrupt Wall Street financiers you find that wisely spending the wage earners money, (reducing taxes would be better yet)and improving the place they live is way down on the list. Senator Caroline would fit in which is sad for my friends and relatives that remain.

Dec 31, 2008 - 12:11 pm 69. Mark:

Ms. Kennedy isn’t running for the VP position – so you really can’t compare her and Palin. BUT – Kennedy doesn’t have ANY experience at all – just a name and lots of $$$. So what about getting people in that is qualified. btw…her interview w/ the press the other day. That girl can’t even string a sentence together w/out going “…you know…you know…you know…” – she is not articulate at all!

General Patton’s Dog

Dec 31, 2008 - 1:04 pm 70. WALTERC:

What is more, we liberals hope all red states secede soon.

That’s the first intelligent thing you’ve said Daivie. Keep in mind that the red states have most of the natural resources (Oil, Gas & Coal) and most of the guns. What a country that could be.

Dec 31, 2008 - 3:21 pm 71. Jim Baker:

No comment. My opinions are biased because I’m sweet on Governor Palin.

Dec 31, 2008 - 4:15 pm 72. misanthropicus:

Re #33/Steve P: [...] Yeah, because most of the presidents of the Harvard Law Review that I know are really low achievers. [...]

Steve, you painted y/self in a corner – now try to waltz out of this:
1) why Obama’s grades & Harvard admission file cannot be examined? Is there something smelling of “affirmative action”?
2) as far as other achievements, can enlarge a bit on Obama’s scholastic activity at Harvard law: number of articles, kind of opinions, views on legal matters

Dec 31, 2008 - 7:50 pm 73. Kevin:

62. Daivie

Thorazine alert….

Jan 1, 2009 - 4:44 am 74. comatus:

Daivie. Is there a liberal mouse in your pocket, or do you just presume to speak for “we” liberals?

I looked it up! Liberals are not for secession!

Hey, there’s only one “b” in “shambles.”

Jan 1, 2009 - 12:13 pm 75. Daivie:

Comatus : Fair enough. One more thing though. Palin’s done. Betcha a dinner.

Jan 1, 2009 - 1:13 pm 76. vivo:

52. Daivie:

“When Palin becomes president in 2012,”

That will NEVER happen. The more we know about her, the least she stands a chance. Only the ignorant fringe will support her and we’ll be vastly entertained on TV late night shows.

Jan 1, 2009 - 6:27 pm 77. susan:

do you mean the same ignorant fringe that thinks usa has 57 states?

Jan 2, 2009 - 5:23 am 78. '08ama:

Message to “The Thrilla from Wasilla” …

… stick to the mooseburgers sweetie, you couldn’t carry Caroline Kennedy’s TAMPON !

Jan 2, 2009 - 11:23 am 79. Gary Thorington:

conservative guy who hates of all the bias in our media and culture.

Jan 2, 2009 - 12:14 pm 80. Gary Thorington:

Steve,,, if you think Palin is so ignorant,, what do you think of John Kerry’s plan for Iraq back in 2004? Ive asked numerous times to people who supported Kerry what his plan was. Once in a while someone would refer me to his web page to get the clear answers. I don’t think Kerry has the intelligence to come up with a successful plan for Iraq or any other subject. As for calling people you don’t like “dumb” is merely pointing out that you don’t like what they have to say. You are not the most tolerant person in the world.

Jan 2, 2009 - 12:18 pm 81. Tammie:

The same was said about Uncle Ted when he first started in Senate, but he turned out to be great at his job.

Jan 2, 2009 - 12:18 pm 82. Jim Baker:

David S don’t spell to good, do he?

Jan 2, 2009 - 4:01 pm 83. Kevin:

Or the same ignorant fringe that believes the phrase “government by the people, of the people, for the people” appears in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, who couldn’t pronounce the word “chameleon”, and was uncertain about the meaning of the word “is”.

Or the fringe that thinks that zebras have spots, mistranslated our national motto, and couldn’t identify statues of our Founding Fathers.

Courtesy of those two geniuses Al Bore and BJ Clinton.

Jan 2, 2009 - 4:05 pm 84. Kevin:

Oh, already posted something similar at 57. Sorry.

Jan 2, 2009 - 4:09 pm 85. Kevin:

vivo at 68.
“The more we know about her, the least she stands a chance.”

Should read; The more we LIE about her, the least she stands a chance.

Jan 2, 2009 - 4:12 pm 86. solomonpal:

Palin is back in Alaska and doing great…meanwhile California, New York, MSM, GM and Chrysler are in line for bailouts…LMAO. You can keep the Kennedys.

Jan 2, 2009 - 6:01 pm 87. solomonpal:

@ Davie…Now that oil is dropping like a rock and causing her popularity to drop at the same rate in Alaska (because the state’s finances are in a shambbles and she can not continue to “share the wealth” as she had done ) our hope is she is unelectable to any office.

Alaskan Budget was never premised on 150$ a barrel oil besides do you really think it will be at 45$ for that much longer? It will be a pleasure to take my “share the wealth ” out of your back pocket in the near future. Phhhttttt!

Jan 2, 2009 - 6:16 pm 88. Jim Baker:

solomonpal:
I think that name is Daivie. Sort of like Davy Crockett, but not really.

Jan 2, 2009 - 10:26 pm 89. wormburner:

FLmom,

Thank you for that AK “geology” lesson. As for Alaska geography, it is make up of classic Cascadian Subduction Zone mountain ranges.

So a small Alaskan Island is close to a small Russian island. Guess what? Key West is close to Cuba so I guess Floridians and Alaskans are therefore better leaders for America.

Can we send both Kennedy and Palin to this island and get on to bigger, better, and smarter things? We can find better in both cases.

Jan 2, 2009 - 10:49 pm 90. Kevin:

No doubt the “bigger, better, and smarter” thing you’d like to get onto is underneath Obama’s swimsuit.

Jan 3, 2009 - 10:34 am 91. Kevin:

The liberal Palin-haters only continue to hammer the Alaska/Russia quote because it serves to highlight that whatever scant experience she may have with respect to foreign policy, their beloved Chicago thug has even less.

Palin states that she’s had to deal with air and maritime border issues with Russia.

Obama says he’s qualified for the Presidency because he’s spent most of his (do-nothing)senatorship campaigning for it.

Which sounds more idiotic?

Jan 3, 2009 - 10:40 am 92. Kevin:

Actually I must correct myself. Obama’s foreign policy credentials actually do exceed Palin’s. I speak specifically of Obama’s 2006 time in Kenya where he actively campaigned on behalf of a murderous dictator.

Jan 3, 2009 - 10:50 am 93. wormburner:

If you guys want to put all of your eggs in Palin’s basket, be my guest. It’s your funeral. I would be looking more at Huckabee for success.

Jan 3, 2009 - 3:14 pm 94. David S:

@81

I’ve been making this point as well, but it seems there is a segment of Palin fans that is deluded about her to the point that they can see no evil. It is fun to watch, but I don’t see how they can keep up the fantasy for 4 years. Then again, some of them may still believe in Santa as well, so who knows?

DS

Jan 3, 2009 - 11:28 pm 95. John Skookum:

David S.:

Scoff if you like, but remember that Sarah Palin is the most naturally gifted politician since Bill Clinton, or maybe since Reagan. Yes, she’s green, but she is exceptionally good at politics at the retail level, with talent that cannot be taught or practiced. With six years of gubernatorial experience in 2012, she may be seen in a very different light, especially if the economy really goes in the crapper and the Democrats come to be seen as part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

Also, remember that people tend to return to traditional values and old-time religion in times of hardship and turmoil. She is obviously well positioned to benefit.

Finally, keep in mind that in future she will not be boxed in by McCain’s platform and history, and that her own record is much more moderate and libertarian than the media portrayal. She has never banned a book. She has never proposed outlawing the teaching of evolution; in fact, she has not advocated teaching creationism, except to allow discussion of the topic if students request it. She has never actively pushed for punitive anti-gay policies, but rather is one of the few politicians who can claim to have vetoed an anti-gay law on constitutional grounds. She has done nothing to move the abortion debate in Alaska. She has strong opinions on all these topics that are shared by large numbers of Republicans and Democrats, but she really does seem to prefer to lead by example and persuasion.

It will take time to correct people’s impressions, but she has time. Her biggest job is to appeal to women, too many of whom have had high-school flashbacks and see her as the mean head cheerleader. If a mere 6% of the women who voted against her had voted the other way, she’d be getting ready for her inauguration right now. I do not think that this is an impossible task at all, if she spends enough time on the girl-talk TV programs speaking to the women of America as one mom to another.

I think the least of her worries is the educational factor. Book learning is maybe 10% of what you need to be an effective president. Results matter far more. I skipped around from one college to another myself, even dropping out for a while, but eventually got my stuff together and made it into an Ivy League medical school. I can beat Sarah Palin’s SAT score by a mile, I bet, but I am in awe of her political genius, fearlessness, and demonstrated record of effective bipartisan governance. I would sleep soundly if she were Commander in Chief, and plan to work hard and donate heavily to make it so.

Jan 4, 2009 - 4:26 am 96. John Skookum:

Oh, David S, one more thing: if there is one identifiable class of people in this country that legitimately can be compared to children who believe in Santa Claus, it would be those who think that we can borrow, spend, regulate and litigate our way to prosperity under the guidance of the Obamessiah.

Jan 4, 2009 - 4:30 am 97. narciso:

You never made anything close to an argument; just sneers based on edited transcripts and Tina Fey’s unquestioning mouthing of same. Proposing Huckabee, a fellow who makes Bill Clinton’s stewardship of the state, look good, now that’s funny.
Come to think of it, what was the sterling record of reform, that made people think Clinton could even consider running for President, I know it must have been there somewhere.Odd when Howard “Screaming” Dean, was on the warpath; the man who changed churches over a dispute about a bike path, that the media gave him the time of day, until he self destructed; and continued to do so after he was promoted to DNC chair, he made the previous jackass Terry McAuliffe, one of the parties to the Global Crossing fiasco look good. So you looked up Wikipedia
and you found out the point of the
subduction zones, you left out the Bering bridge, that connected it to Asia, through Russia; the long history of Russian cultural influence, Wassila, Sitka, are clearly not typically American place names. Consequently they are a little more aware when the Russian bear is stirring. She could have brought up the part of the Ketchikan EWS in the ballistic missile defense network, but that would have presumed that Katie Couric
would know about this. Nice try David, Davie, related to Cedarford, tell him hello, get an argument.

Jan 4, 2009 - 9:58 am 98. Kevin:

John, everything you’ve said is indeed true. But you have to remember that truth is to liberals what garlic is to vampires. You’d have better luck trying to explain advanced astro-physics to a three-year old.

The facts can be right in front of their face, but they won’t believe what they see because they can only see what they believe.

Jan 4, 2009 - 2:22 pm 99. narciso:

Ah, John, you’re right of course, the lies that have been told about this woman, because
unlike anyone else on either ticket she has ’spoken truth to power’ Against her own party, against the Democrats, on Ayers, on energy, on the fight in the Middle East, against Russian absorbing of the former republics in the Caucasus, on guns, on ethically based life issues, that’s why they have tried to put her down. It’s odd that the ‘Mean Girl’s stereotype is fixed on her, by all rights, that’s really Tina Fey’s department. Did she ever raise her voice in anger, really whine about the treatment her and her family received; the lies still cached on Youtube and Google. I am understandably bitter about the rotten nature of this previous campaign, I find she was probably the only decent and redeeming thing about it

Jan 5, 2009 - 8:44 am 100. Jeannette:

wormburner @77,
Silly me! Yes, I think the governor of Florida knows quite a bit more about Cuba than the rest of us, just as the governor of Alaska knows quite a bit more about both Russia and Canada than the rest of us. (And I have this queer notion that the governor of Maine pays quite a lot of attention to the goings-on in New Brunswick, more than you or I do!)

Jan 5, 2009 - 12:27 pm 101. JackT:

Sarah Palin is not too bright. She clearly demonstrated that. No amount of spin or future education will change the image we have of her. You can’t put the cat back in the bag. She will forever be known as know nothing white trash. Hell, any idiot can govern Alaska. BTW, we should sell it to Canada and forgetaboutit.

Jan 5, 2009 - 9:17 pm 102. narciso:

It’s kind of funny, Jack, considering we have a president elect that considers ‘the Bill of Rights’ negative, who didn’t know about the signal event in his state’s history, “the bomb that dropped on Pearl Harbor” Now we have a CIA director designate with no intelligence experience. We have a nominee for Interior who is opposed to further shale exploration. Now question, do you heat your house with oil or gas, you likely use Alaska’s products. Alaska belonged to Russia, a great deal we got it for, you want to give it back to Putin. The irony is that the Russians have more respect for her, than you ’supposedly sophisticated Americans’ who take their cue from Tina Fey and Katie Couric, they tagged her the Okhonitsa, the Huntress, and that’s not an accident; If she’s so insignificant, don’t worry about her, but she’s not is she.

Jan 6, 2009 - 9:26 am 103. Jon Boudreaux:

What people are forgetting is that Caroline candidate is not contesting an election. Palin is a joke. Vice President? Are you kidding me? Palin is only quality to be a moose hunter. She is a sure shot, you gotta give her that. I hope the REPUGNANT Party select her as their Presidential candidate in 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024, and you get the picture. She is a complete joke.

Jan 12, 2009 - 6:42 pm

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