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		<title>By: Headspace and Timing v2.0</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2007/11/25/rowan_williams_public_embarras/comment-page-1/#comment-257</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Who will rid us of&lt;/strong&gt;

Who will rid us of this troublesome priest?
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		<title>By: Headspace and Timing v2.0</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2007/11/25/rowan_williams_public_embarras/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Headspace and Timing v2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Who will rid us of&lt;/strong&gt;

Who will rid us of this troublesome priest?
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		<title>By: iqi</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2007/11/25/rowan_williams_public_embarras/comment-page-1/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>iqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 22:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Kimball,

what a faithful bunch of admirers you have gathered here...it makes me wonder what happened to the liberal democracy that you praise... where is the dialogue gone? Where is the richness of opposite perspectives meeting and negotiating a common ground gone? Nothing that I have read on this page is compatible in any way with the democracy that you pretend to defend. All the comments that are displayed are less than intelligent and, in the manner of your article itself, disrespectful (to the opponent, ie Rowan Williams) approvals of what you wrote. I am not saying that approval of your words is wrong, but that no one approves of you in a constructive way, and I suspect that the reason for that is the weakness  of your argument and its wrongly conceived polemic dimension.
With a misplaced self-confidence you misinterpret (if not entirely miss) Rowan Williams&#039;s nuanced argument. Your perspective is unilateral and aggressive and what is worse, you mix an intellectual argument with what I would call a personal attack. I can not possibly imagine how someone of your stature and intelligence can make such a grave mistake. I can not understand how  someone of your intelligence and critical training can fail to criticize US foreign policy, and to apprehend the hatred that it has engendered world wide. I  can not understand how you would fail to understand that at the roots of terrorism lies US failure to understand the potential consequences of its unjust and cruel acts, carried in the name of democracy and human rights. I can not understand how you would fail to  criticize this in light of the fact that innocent people (both in America and elsewhere)would be the ones to suffer for the self interested decisions taken by a few so called political leaders. Lastly, i believe that your failure to constructively engage with criticism that has been made to US foreign policy, and your &quot;traditional&quot; by now perceiving of it as an attack against American values, is a disgrace to the intellectual professions.
In truth, if something that I wrote triggered such reactions as the ones i read on your website, I would be ashamed.

yours respectfully,
iqi


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Kimball,</p>
<p>what a faithful bunch of admirers you have gathered here&#8230;it makes me wonder what happened to the liberal democracy that you praise&#8230; where is the dialogue gone? Where is the richness of opposite perspectives meeting and negotiating a common ground gone? Nothing that I have read on this page is compatible in any way with the democracy that you pretend to defend. All the comments that are displayed are less than intelligent and, in the manner of your article itself, disrespectful (to the opponent, ie Rowan Williams) approvals of what you wrote. I am not saying that approval of your words is wrong, but that no one approves of you in a constructive way, and I suspect that the reason for that is the weakness  of your argument and its wrongly conceived polemic dimension.<br />
With a misplaced self-confidence you misinterpret (if not entirely miss) Rowan Williams&#8217;s nuanced argument. Your perspective is unilateral and aggressive and what is worse, you mix an intellectual argument with what I would call a personal attack. I can not possibly imagine how someone of your stature and intelligence can make such a grave mistake. I can not understand how  someone of your intelligence and critical training can fail to criticize US foreign policy, and to apprehend the hatred that it has engendered world wide. I  can not understand how you would fail to understand that at the roots of terrorism lies US failure to understand the potential consequences of its unjust and cruel acts, carried in the name of democracy and human rights. I can not understand how you would fail to  criticize this in light of the fact that innocent people (both in America and elsewhere)would be the ones to suffer for the self interested decisions taken by a few so called political leaders. Lastly, i believe that your failure to constructively engage with criticism that has been made to US foreign policy, and your &#8220;traditional&#8221; by now perceiving of it as an attack against American values, is a disgrace to the intellectual professions.<br />
In truth, if something that I wrote triggered such reactions as the ones i read on your website, I would be ashamed.</p>
<p>yours respectfully,<br />
iqi</p>
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		<title>By: George Warburton</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2007/11/25/rowan_williams_public_embarras/comment-page-1/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>George Warburton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following Williams&#039; remarks, John Bolton was interviewed by the BBC and asked to comment.
He said that Williams was a graphic illustration of why Anglicans did not consider their leaders to be infallible.

George Warburton

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following Williams&#8217; remarks, John Bolton was interviewed by the BBC and asked to comment.<br />
He said that Williams was a graphic illustration of why Anglicans did not consider their leaders to be infallible.</p>
<p>George Warburton</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or does he &lt;i&gt;look&lt;/i&gt; like a man getting ready to don mufti, as it were?
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		<title>By: BMoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a man who has spent his entire life equivocating about his very own faith. No wonder mosques are more populated than Anglican churches (except those that still adhere or have returned to conservative views.)  I heard that the Saudis are looking to put up the biggest mosque outside of Saudi Arabia in the neighborhood of Westminister Abbey. Since the Rowna Williams really no longer believes in western liberal democracy, nor in the clear, unequivocating Christianity that spawned it, maybe the good Graciousness should just get it over with and sell Westminister Abbey to the Saudis at a cut rate price. The Brits can move Wilberforce and Pitt and the others to another location.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a man who has spent his entire life equivocating about his very own faith. No wonder mosques are more populated than Anglican churches (except those that still adhere or have returned to conservative views.)  I heard that the Saudis are looking to put up the biggest mosque outside of Saudi Arabia in the neighborhood of Westminister Abbey. Since the Rowna Williams really no longer believes in western liberal democracy, nor in the clear, unequivocating Christianity that spawned it, maybe the good Graciousness should just get it over with and sell Westminister Abbey to the Saudis at a cut rate price. The Brits can move Wilberforce and Pitt and the others to another location.</p>
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		<title>By: Banafsheh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banafsheh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take it from an Iranian whose country has been ravaged by the Brits; nothing Americans can do can beat what the Brits did to us.
The colonialist Brits may have brought rule of law, better education, etc. to SOME places they went BUT that oughtn&#039;t be the point; the point is the price they exacted from the natives and the rather horrible wounds and scars it left behind. Some say that they&#039;re still paying for it and that that, in fact will be the downfall of Britain. One thing is for sure, Britain IS in a free fall. Iranians on the other hand didn&#039;t need either rule of law, better education or any of the so-called gifts that the Brits brought with them, to Iran. We were doing just fine and I can assure you that where Iranians are concerned those account books/wounds are still very much open. We paid a horribly high price and nothing Mr. Rowan - who just happens to be a very outspoken and ardent supporter of the maniacs ruling in Tehran - has once again dawned his perpetual delusional as nothing more than a self-promoting ideologue and a propagandist. The man is becoming boring and predictable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take it from an Iranian whose country has been ravaged by the Brits; nothing Americans can do can beat what the Brits did to us.<br />
The colonialist Brits may have brought rule of law, better education, etc. to SOME places they went BUT that oughtn&#8217;t be the point; the point is the price they exacted from the natives and the rather horrible wounds and scars it left behind. Some say that they&#8217;re still paying for it and that that, in fact will be the downfall of Britain. One thing is for sure, Britain IS in a free fall. Iranians on the other hand didn&#8217;t need either rule of law, better education or any of the so-called gifts that the Brits brought with them, to Iran. We were doing just fine and I can assure you that where Iranians are concerned those account books/wounds are still very much open. We paid a horribly high price and nothing Mr. Rowan &#8211; who just happens to be a very outspoken and ardent supporter of the maniacs ruling in Tehran &#8211; has once again dawned his perpetual delusional as nothing more than a self-promoting ideologue and a propagandist. The man is becoming boring and predictable.</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Similarly, he argued that, in its indelicate response to al Qaeda, America “loses the power of self-criticism and becomes trapped in a self-referential morality.”&lt;/i&gt;

I kind of get that particular gobbledlygook.

It sounds like a perfect description of Rowan Williams himself.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Similarly, he argued that, in its indelicate response to al Qaeda, America “loses the power of self-criticism and becomes trapped in a self-referential morality.”</i></p>
<p>I kind of get that particular gobbledlygook.</p>
<p>It sounds like a perfect description of Rowan Williams himself.</p>
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		<title>By: aloysiusmiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>aloysiusmiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An episode of the British comedy Yes Prime Minister dealt with the selection of a Bishop. It was hilariously funny. One of its suggestions was that an atheist was preferred over someone --Heaven forbid!-- who believed in Christ and the Resurrection.

The comedy was closer to the truth than the archbishop himself.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An episode of the British comedy Yes Prime Minister dealt with the selection of a Bishop. It was hilariously funny. One of its suggestions was that an atheist was preferred over someone &#8211;Heaven forbid!&#8211; who believed in Christ and the Resurrection.</p>
<p>The comedy was closer to the truth than the archbishop himself.</p>
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		<title>By: RE</title>
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		<dc:creator>RE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me Father for I have sinned -   I have taken great delight in visualizing myself slapping this  moron they call an &#039;archbishop&#039;  silly.
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