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		<title>By: Roger&#8217;s Rules &#187; Watch where you&#8217;re going! Or, plumbing and the progress of soft jihad</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/02/23/quiet_crusading_vs_soft_jihad/comment-page-1/#comment-5581</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger&#8217;s Rules &#187; Watch where you&#8217;re going! Or, plumbing and the progress of soft jihad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in arms because a certain brand of crisp was processed with alcohol, I offered, free of charge, a pragmatic intervention to tame the progress of jihad, soft, hard, and flaccid:  &#8220;Start putting a bit of alcohol in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in arms because a certain brand of crisp was processed with alcohol, I offered, free of charge, a pragmatic intervention to tame the progress of jihad, soft, hard, and flaccid:  &#8220;Start putting a bit of alcohol in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roger&#8217;s Rules &#187; The Ostrich Effect, or Whose Side is the State Department On?</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/02/23/quiet_crusading_vs_soft_jihad/comment-page-1/#comment-1620</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger&#8217;s Rules &#187; The Ostrich Effect, or Whose Side is the State Department On?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] efforts not to do or say anything of &#8220;offend Muslims,&#8221; radical Muslims are busy extending the list of things they are offended by while also seeking new ways to insinuate elements of Sharia law into [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] efforts not to do or say anything of &#8220;offend Muslims,&#8221; radical Muslims are busy extending the list of things they are offended by while also seeking new ways to insinuate elements of Sharia law into [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I propose that the EU ban all traditional sugars (white and brown cane sugars, corn syrup, etc.) and demand that all sweetened products use sugar alcohols (xylotol, sorbitol, erythritol, etc.) because they have half the number of carbohydrates than traditional sugars which will help Europeans keep their weight down. It&#039;s like banning transfat in that it will help people stay thin and healthy(wink, wink).

I&#039;m sure our muslim friends and neighbors will appreciate our concern for their health. Oh, it&#039;s against their religion? That&#039;s ok, we can stock our stores with molasses. That&#039;s not against anyone&#039;s religion is it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I propose that the EU ban all traditional sugars (white and brown cane sugars, corn syrup, etc.) and demand that all sweetened products use sugar alcohols (xylotol, sorbitol, erythritol, etc.) because they have half the number of carbohydrates than traditional sugars which will help Europeans keep their weight down. It&#8217;s like banning transfat in that it will help people stay thin and healthy(wink, wink).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure our muslim friends and neighbors will appreciate our concern for their health. Oh, it&#8217;s against their religion? That&#8217;s ok, we can stock our stores with molasses. That&#8217;s not against anyone&#8217;s religion is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Nabor</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/02/23/quiet_crusading_vs_soft_jihad/comment-page-1/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Nabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John in Michigan and Lydia have turned my rather lame and sick attempt at humor into something much more serious:  When does religious dogma, taken to absurd lengths, cease to be sanctioned by God and began to do real harm to both the believer and to society in general?

Most religious food proscriptions originated in the dim past from perfectly sane observations.  For example, the ban on the consumption of pork by Jews and Moslems almost certainly arose from the observation that many ancient people who ate pork died rather horribly (from trichinosis).  Not knowing the cause, what could these people suppose except that God was punishing them for eating something He didn&#039;t want them to?  The ban on pork undoubtedly saved the lives of thousands of Jews and Moslems and was, therefore, quite beneficial.  Since then, however, God had vouchsafed us the revelation of the cause of the sickness and we can now produce pork that is safe and nutritious.  The sane conclusion is that He has released us from the proscription and, therefore, the continued insistence on dogma is superannuated and harmful.

The bad effects of the consumption of alcohol (ethanol) is still obvious.  Without a doubt, the proscription of its consumption is still saving thousands of Muslims and is a good thing.  Until, that is, it is taken to absurd lengths by ignorant religious fanatics.  How in heaven&#039;s name can the consumption of a frickin&#039; French fry offend God when the alcohol therein can only be detected by the most sophisticated GC-mass spec laboratory analysis?  Certainly God can&#039;t object to us eating food contaminated by the inevitable few skin cells sloughed off the hand of the cook on the basis of His ban on cannibalism!  Such attitudes on the part of fanatical Muslims can only be, as Lydia suggests, a manifestation of a desire for political power having nothing to do with religion.

If our society insists on altering its ways so as not to offend, then it is time for non-Muslims to announce, in no uncertain terms, that WE are offended by people who refuse to wash their hands.  WE are offended by being refused taxi service by Muslim drivers in Minneapolis if we happen to be carrying a bottle of scotch as a hostess gift to the people we are visiting.  WE are offended because our children are refused a piggy bank to encourage saving.  WE are offended at being blown to bits for any reason whatsoever.  WE are offended if our fiancée is killed by his or her parents because we are not Muslim.  What say you, Western Societies, what are you going to do to avoid offending US?  Or are you so bigoted that we don&#039;t count?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John in Michigan and Lydia have turned my rather lame and sick attempt at humor into something much more serious:  When does religious dogma, taken to absurd lengths, cease to be sanctioned by God and began to do real harm to both the believer and to society in general?</p>
<p>Most religious food proscriptions originated in the dim past from perfectly sane observations.  For example, the ban on the consumption of pork by Jews and Moslems almost certainly arose from the observation that many ancient people who ate pork died rather horribly (from trichinosis).  Not knowing the cause, what could these people suppose except that God was punishing them for eating something He didn&#8217;t want them to?  The ban on pork undoubtedly saved the lives of thousands of Jews and Moslems and was, therefore, quite beneficial.  Since then, however, God had vouchsafed us the revelation of the cause of the sickness and we can now produce pork that is safe and nutritious.  The sane conclusion is that He has released us from the proscription and, therefore, the continued insistence on dogma is superannuated and harmful.</p>
<p>The bad effects of the consumption of alcohol (ethanol) is still obvious.  Without a doubt, the proscription of its consumption is still saving thousands of Muslims and is a good thing.  Until, that is, it is taken to absurd lengths by ignorant religious fanatics.  How in heaven&#8217;s name can the consumption of a frickin&#8217; French fry offend God when the alcohol therein can only be detected by the most sophisticated GC-mass spec laboratory analysis?  Certainly God can&#8217;t object to us eating food contaminated by the inevitable few skin cells sloughed off the hand of the cook on the basis of His ban on cannibalism!  Such attitudes on the part of fanatical Muslims can only be, as Lydia suggests, a manifestation of a desire for political power having nothing to do with religion.</p>
<p>If our society insists on altering its ways so as not to offend, then it is time for non-Muslims to announce, in no uncertain terms, that WE are offended by people who refuse to wash their hands.  WE are offended by being refused taxi service by Muslim drivers in Minneapolis if we happen to be carrying a bottle of scotch as a hostess gift to the people we are visiting.  WE are offended because our children are refused a piggy bank to encourage saving.  WE are offended at being blown to bits for any reason whatsoever.  WE are offended if our fiancée is killed by his or her parents because we are not Muslim.  What say you, Western Societies, what are you going to do to avoid offending US?  Or are you so bigoted that we don&#8217;t count?</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Roger!

Actually, some Muslims evidently don&#039;t &quot;get&quot; the fact that they are different kinds of alcohol, and there have been reports (which I don&#039;t have time to look up again tonight) of refusal by Muslim visitors to use alcohol-based hand sanitizer when entering British hospital wards. These hand sanitation things are set up to try to prevent the spread of antibiotic-resistant staff infections in the hospital, but they didn&#039;t enforce them against the Muslims. Who, of course, probably weren&#039;t quite _so_ stupid as sincerely to believe the sanitizers were forbidden by their religion but were just looking for another chance to push the envelope.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Roger!</p>
<p>Actually, some Muslims evidently don&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; the fact that they are different kinds of alcohol, and there have been reports (which I don&#8217;t have time to look up again tonight) of refusal by Muslim visitors to use alcohol-based hand sanitizer when entering British hospital wards. These hand sanitation things are set up to try to prevent the spread of antibiotic-resistant staff infections in the hospital, but they didn&#8217;t enforce them against the Muslims. Who, of course, probably weren&#8217;t quite _so_ stupid as sincerely to believe the sanitizers were forbidden by their religion but were just looking for another chance to push the envelope.</p>
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		<title>By: John in Michigan, USA</title>
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		<dc:creator>John in Michigan, USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill Nabor:  &quot;wrong kind of alcohol (isopropyl, not ethanol)&quot;

You are of course, correct, these are different alcohols.  But, I wonder, would it really matter to the fanatics and these touchy-feely regulators?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill Nabor:  &#8220;wrong kind of alcohol (isopropyl, not ethanol)&#8221;</p>
<p>You are of course, correct, these are different alcohols.  But, I wonder, would it really matter to the fanatics and these touchy-feely regulators?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Nabor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Nabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget the hand sanitizers, wrong kind of alcohol (isopropyl, not ethanol), at least for most brands.  Nice try, though.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the hand sanitizers, wrong kind of alcohol (isopropyl, not ethanol), at least for most brands.  Nice try, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a large department store and every day there are more and more  Muslims shopping there.  Their  goal is to take over our country.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://usawakeup.org/mission.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://usawakeup.org/mission.htm&lt;/a&gt;
Read this. It sure keeps me awake at night.
Now maybe I sould buy a large piggy bank to set near the cash register and a piggy pin to wear on my sweater.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a large department store and every day there are more and more  Muslims shopping there.  Their  goal is to take over our country.<br />
<a href="http://usawakeup.org/mission.htm" rel="nofollow">http://usawakeup.org/mission.htm</a><br />
Read this. It sure keeps me awake at night.<br />
Now maybe I sould buy a large piggy bank to set near the cash register and a piggy pin to wear on my sweater.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Hyden Woodward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Hyden Woodward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caving in to anything that might/would offend Muslims living in Great Britain is pure insanity.

Those who promote it need to revisit your early history (I am in the U.S. where our principles of freedom are based on that very event).

Yes, I could spell it how for you right now, but I think some of you need to do a little research.
Hint: Go back a few centuries.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caving in to anything that might/would offend Muslims living in Great Britain is pure insanity.</p>
<p>Those who promote it need to revisit your early history (I am in the U.S. where our principles of freedom are based on that very event).</p>
<p>Yes, I could spell it how for you right now, but I think some of you need to do a little research.<br />
Hint: Go back a few centuries.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might I suggest:

&quot;For your protection, personnel handling and preparing the food served in this establishment make regular use of alcohol-based hand sanitizers.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might I suggest:</p>
<p>&#8220;For your protection, personnel handling and preparing the food served in this establishment make regular use of alcohol-based hand sanitizers.&#8221;</p>
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