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		<title>By: Lott</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/05/16/conservative-gloominess/comment-page-1/#comment-1929</link>
		<dc:creator>Lott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, BMoon, it&#039;s the bullying posture of the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, BMoon, it&#8217;s the bullying posture of the right.</p>
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		<title>By: BMoon</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/05/16/conservative-gloominess/comment-page-1/#comment-1918</link>
		<dc:creator>BMoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of humor with lefties I think has to do with their inherent affliction with the messianic complex. They are out to save the world, in their delusional mindset, and that, being serious business, leaves no room for self-reflection, the essence of humor. If leftists-statists cannot learn from Robespierre (another of their pitiably humorless forbears) the dire consequences of their ghastly error in premise, I do not think they will ever learn, at least from history. They will have to, as the cliche goes, repeat it, over and over and over, like the stupid hamster and his wheel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of humor with lefties I think has to do with their inherent affliction with the messianic complex. They are out to save the world, in their delusional mindset, and that, being serious business, leaves no room for self-reflection, the essence of humor. If leftists-statists cannot learn from Robespierre (another of their pitiably humorless forbears) the dire consequences of their ghastly error in premise, I do not think they will ever learn, at least from history. They will have to, as the cliche goes, repeat it, over and over and over, like the stupid hamster and his wheel.</p>
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		<title>By: Lott</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/05/16/conservative-gloominess/comment-page-1/#comment-1914</link>
		<dc:creator>Lott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 03:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Isabella, you enjoy proving my point. You are doing exactly what the fascists do. So far in these comments, liberals have been branded as hating freedom and democracy, when it&#039;s the conservatives that meddle in the personal relationships of Americans and engage in voter fraud by distributing fliers on election day saying that the polling place has been moved.  Liberals don&#039;t want you to call someone the N word; conservatives want to control what kind of sex consenting adults have in their own homes. Which is worse? Wait, I know the answer. I&#039;m sure it has something to do with Jesus and how he frowns on sex education classes. 

And rabid intolerance of disagreement? Have you been paying attention to the Bush administration&#039;s war on those it deems its enemies? Inconvenient facts? Are you high? The facts that Iraq had no role in 9/11, Saddam had no ties to Osama bin Laden, and Iraq had no WMD were ignored so Bush could invade.  Judicial imperialism handed Bush his presidency. Oy vey. Conservatives. The only reason your heads are in the sand is because Jesus frowns on ass play.

And I&#039;m still puzzled by the &quot;utterly humorless&quot; remark. It what the office bully always claims after he calls the women &quot;sweethearts&quot; and the gay guys &quot;homos.&quot; It&#039;s a ruse to test the boundaries, to see what he can get away with before people push back. Then he can claim to have been &quot;just kidding.&quot; &quot;Whatsa matter? You aint got a sense of humor, toots?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Isabella, you enjoy proving my point. You are doing exactly what the fascists do. So far in these comments, liberals have been branded as hating freedom and democracy, when it&#8217;s the conservatives that meddle in the personal relationships of Americans and engage in voter fraud by distributing fliers on election day saying that the polling place has been moved.  Liberals don&#8217;t want you to call someone the N word; conservatives want to control what kind of sex consenting adults have in their own homes. Which is worse? Wait, I know the answer. I&#8217;m sure it has something to do with Jesus and how he frowns on sex education classes. </p>
<p>And rabid intolerance of disagreement? Have you been paying attention to the Bush administration&#8217;s war on those it deems its enemies? Inconvenient facts? Are you high? The facts that Iraq had no role in 9/11, Saddam had no ties to Osama bin Laden, and Iraq had no WMD were ignored so Bush could invade.  Judicial imperialism handed Bush his presidency. Oy vey. Conservatives. The only reason your heads are in the sand is because Jesus frowns on ass play.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m still puzzled by the &#8220;utterly humorless&#8221; remark. It what the office bully always claims after he calls the women &#8220;sweethearts&#8221; and the gay guys &#8220;homos.&#8221; It&#8217;s a ruse to test the boundaries, to see what he can get away with before people push back. Then he can claim to have been &#8220;just kidding.&#8221; &#8220;Whatsa matter? You aint got a sense of humor, toots?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bent Notes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Two cheers for cheer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bent Notes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Two cheers for cheer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 20:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A recent piece of his has as its thrust a reconsideration of recent conservative gloom about conserv...  He offers another view, but, as one would expect from a towering giant of a wordsmith, he does much more.  He offers, for example, a consideration-warranting look at where conservatives on one hand and Freedom-Haters on the other find levity and pessimistic prospects in life. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A recent piece of his has as its thrust a reconsideration of recent conservative gloom about conserv&#8230;  He offers another view, but, as one would expect from a towering giant of a wordsmith, he does much more.  He offers, for example, a consideration-warranting look at where conservatives on one hand and Freedom-Haters on the other find levity and pessimistic prospects in life. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Isabella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 17:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Then again, there’s one thing fascists never do: admit that they are wrong.&quot;

I agree, although the fascists aren&#039;t conservatives.  The fascists are the promoters of speech codes, judicial imperialism, and rabid intolerance of disagreement, democracy, or inconvenient facts.  And, as Mr. Kimball notes, they are utterly humorless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Then again, there’s one thing fascists never do: admit that they are wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree, although the fascists aren&#8217;t conservatives.  The fascists are the promoters of speech codes, judicial imperialism, and rabid intolerance of disagreement, democracy, or inconvenient facts.  And, as Mr. Kimball notes, they are utterly humorless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 01:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascist American left? Hello? Hello? Hello? Lee? Lee? Lee? Is there an echo? Echo? Echo?

Know what real fascists do? They accuse those who disagree with them of hating freedom. They wrap themselves in their flags and question the patriotism of their opponents. They create bogymen out a some group and place the blame on them--any kind of blame will do: loss of jobs, lack of morals and ethics--to distract the populace from the crimes they commit. The create a &quot;with us or against us&quot; mindset, as if these are the only positions one could take. They suspend the rule of law for the &quot;good&quot; of their people, laws like habeas corpus. They keep the population afraid of some force supposedly looking to destroy everything they dear. They believe in social Darwinism, and hope that the weak and ill fit will simply die off so that the strong can rule with an iron fist.

Does any of that sound familiar? It should, because these are the policies of the current batch of conservatives. I&#039;m sure they don&#039;t describe you, Lee, or anyone you&#039;ve ever voted for. Then again, there&#039;s one thing fascists never do: admit that they are wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascist American left? Hello? Hello? Hello? Lee? Lee? Lee? Is there an echo? Echo? Echo?</p>
<p>Know what real fascists do? They accuse those who disagree with them of hating freedom. They wrap themselves in their flags and question the patriotism of their opponents. They create bogymen out a some group and place the blame on them&#8211;any kind of blame will do: loss of jobs, lack of morals and ethics&#8211;to distract the populace from the crimes they commit. The create a &#8220;with us or against us&#8221; mindset, as if these are the only positions one could take. They suspend the rule of law for the &#8220;good&#8221; of their people, laws like habeas corpus. They keep the population afraid of some force supposedly looking to destroy everything they dear. They believe in social Darwinism, and hope that the weak and ill fit will simply die off so that the strong can rule with an iron fist.</p>
<p>Does any of that sound familiar? It should, because these are the policies of the current batch of conservatives. I&#8217;m sure they don&#8217;t describe you, Lee, or anyone you&#8217;ve ever voted for. Then again, there&#8217;s one thing fascists never do: admit that they are wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Poteet</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/05/16/conservative-gloominess/comment-page-1/#comment-1824</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Poteet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 21:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lott may lamment the &quot;Swiftboating of John Kerry,&quot; but Mr Kerry could have easily disproved the charges (if, indeed, they were untrue) by realeasing all of his Navy military record. He did not and would not, hence the continued assumption that his fellows had him dead to rights.
 Conservatives may lose the coming election, but it was not they who made John McCain the Republican candidate. The truth is that we have simply forgotten just how facist the American Left is, but if the election is lost we will be more than reminded of both that and how incompetent they really are. It will be Jimmy Carter or worse all over again. And then we will see what the voters will then do, won&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lott may lamment the &#8220;Swiftboating of John Kerry,&#8221; but Mr Kerry could have easily disproved the charges (if, indeed, they were untrue) by realeasing all of his Navy military record. He did not and would not, hence the continued assumption that his fellows had him dead to rights.<br />
 Conservatives may lose the coming election, but it was not they who made John McCain the Republican candidate. The truth is that we have simply forgotten just how facist the American Left is, but if the election is lost we will be more than reminded of both that and how incompetent they really are. It will be Jimmy Carter or worse all over again. And then we will see what the voters will then do, won&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Lott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this piece weren&#039;t obvious bunk this liberal--that&#039;s right, I hate freedome--would be insulted.

The Echo Chamber and the mainstream media? C&#039;mon now. Conservatives invented the Chamber. Rush and his Dittoheads repeating false talking points until they become true--that&#039;s the Echo Chamber, my friend. You probably don&#039;t know it because you&#039;re living in it. 

And &quot;liberals opposed to freedom and all its works,&quot; two paragraphs after explaining the Echo Chamber? Seriously? Is today April Fool&#039;s? Does anyone even remeber the Swiftboating of John Kerry? That was one serious Echo Chamber. This coming in a piece about conservatives, who as a grooup are generally against allowing people to marry whomever they wish regardless of their sexual orientation. Ludicrous.

I knew you were out of actual dicussion points when you brought up sense of humor. That&#039;s a good recruitment pitch: &quot;Be A Conservative! We&#039;re The Funny Ones!&quot; Brilliant but pointless.

Maybe the humor thing is true, though, because I laughed aloud when I read the Buckly quote chiding the League of Women Voters. And I guffawed reading the paragraphs about unintended consequences that didn&#039;t mention the invasion of Iraq. That&#039;s good stuff right there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this piece weren&#8217;t obvious bunk this liberal&#8211;that&#8217;s right, I hate freedome&#8211;would be insulted.</p>
<p>The Echo Chamber and the mainstream media? C&#8217;mon now. Conservatives invented the Chamber. Rush and his Dittoheads repeating false talking points until they become true&#8211;that&#8217;s the Echo Chamber, my friend. You probably don&#8217;t know it because you&#8217;re living in it. </p>
<p>And &#8220;liberals opposed to freedom and all its works,&#8221; two paragraphs after explaining the Echo Chamber? Seriously? Is today April Fool&#8217;s? Does anyone even remeber the Swiftboating of John Kerry? That was one serious Echo Chamber. This coming in a piece about conservatives, who as a grooup are generally against allowing people to marry whomever they wish regardless of their sexual orientation. Ludicrous.</p>
<p>I knew you were out of actual dicussion points when you brought up sense of humor. That&#8217;s a good recruitment pitch: &#8220;Be A Conservative! We&#8217;re The Funny Ones!&#8221; Brilliant but pointless.</p>
<p>Maybe the humor thing is true, though, because I laughed aloud when I read the Buckly quote chiding the League of Women Voters. And I guffawed reading the paragraphs about unintended consequences that didn&#8217;t mention the invasion of Iraq. That&#8217;s good stuff right there.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Kimball points out for the reader a major point about form and function - conservatives have a realistic (and therefore &#039;hard&#039;) view of the world, and so they are free to enjoy the world as it is.

William F. Buckley and Ronald Reagan embodied this quality of joy and were both loved and followed for it.

Should conservatives really be so surprised with what little wisdom the world is ruled?  Of course not.  

So speak our mind, and enjoy what good has always been mixed with the evil in this life.

It&#039;s how to win, and how to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Kimball points out for the reader a major point about form and function &#8211; conservatives have a realistic (and therefore &#8216;hard&#8217;) view of the world, and so they are free to enjoy the world as it is.</p>
<p>William F. Buckley and Ronald Reagan embodied this quality of joy and were both loved and followed for it.</p>
<p>Should conservatives really be so surprised with what little wisdom the world is ruled?  Of course not.  </p>
<p>So speak our mind, and enjoy what good has always been mixed with the evil in this life.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s how to win, and how to live.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 06:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant, Mr Kimball and thank you.  I shall spread this &#039;essay&#039; as widely as I can.

Sadly, we in Australia, are now experiencing, again, your quote of Matthew Arnold &quot;the melancholy, long, withdrawing roar&quot;.  After a much needed respite of sensible Conservatism that provided us with a vital tool for success: freedom to choose, we find ourselves being cured of that success by a Socialist government, led by a megalomaniac, determined to &quot;reform&quot; each of every area of our lives.

Our beds have certainly been made for some time to come,  but it is not yet too late for you Americans to make the right choice that will secure that success for a future of right choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant, Mr Kimball and thank you.  I shall spread this &#8216;essay&#8217; as widely as I can.</p>
<p>Sadly, we in Australia, are now experiencing, again, your quote of Matthew Arnold &#8220;the melancholy, long, withdrawing roar&#8221;.  After a much needed respite of sensible Conservatism that provided us with a vital tool for success: freedom to choose, we find ourselves being cured of that success by a Socialist government, led by a megalomaniac, determined to &#8220;reform&#8221; each of every area of our lives.</p>
<p>Our beds have certainly been made for some time to come,  but it is not yet too late for you Americans to make the right choice that will secure that success for a future of right choices.</p>
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