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August 31st, 2008 5:41 am

Sarah Palin and Howdy Doody, Or, why Joe Biden is losing sleep.

Don’t be fooled: the left is terrified of Sarah Palin. Just savor, if your stomach is strong enough, Gail Collins’s sophomoric effort yesterday in The New York Times, “McCain’s Baked Alaska” (Get it?). “The idea,” sniffs Collins, “that women are going to race off to vote for any candidate with the same internal plumbing is both offensive and historically wrong.” I wish it were so, Gail. But the distaff side was queuing up in droves to vote for HRC and not, as you said, “as the best-prepared candidate in the Democratic pack,” but precisely because of the plumbing.

And folks are electrified by Sarah Palin not because she’s female, but because she’s a breath of fresh air: a tough, attractive, conservative, pro-family, patriotic candidate who is as articulate as she is unbeholden to the beltway, business-as-usual pork-barrel machinery. She represents exactly the sort of change that Obama invoked but never managed to articulate.

William Kristol, in a splendid piece in The Weekly Standard, gets it just right. Palin is a frightening “spectre” to the Left precisely because she is everything they despise: “a working woman who’s a proud wife and mother; a traditionalist in important matters who’s broken through all kinds of barriers; a reformer who’s a Republican; a challenger of a corrupt good-old-boy establishment who’s a conservative; a successful woman whose life is unapologetically grounded in religious belief; a lady who’s a leader.”

And Kristol is right, too, in what we can expect in the coming weeks:

So what we will see in the next days and weeks–what we have already seen in the hours after her nomination–is an effort by all the powers of the old liberalism, both in the Democratic party and the mainstream media, to exorcise this spectre. They will ridicule her and patronize her. They will distort her words and caricature her biography. They will appeal, sometimes explicitly, to anti-small town and anti-religious prejudice. All of this will be in the cause of trying to prevent the American people from arriving at their own judgment of Sarah Palin.

I spoke to a savvy, politically connected friend yesterday who told me that MSM journalists were already packing into planes, trains, and automobiles to hie themselves thither to Alaska in order to prospect for the gold of D.O.P.–dirt on Palin. Well, good luck to ‘em. What the Clintons called (and, even more, what they practiced) “the politics of personal destruction” is never pretty. But I suspect that, like most gold prospectors of yore, they will come up empty handed in this case. The only thing I’ve heard is the story about her getting her unstable brother-in-law fired: not much there for the fourth estate, especially since Palin has been so cooperative with the inquiry that they haven’t even had to issue a subpoena.

In the larger sense, of course, it is a good thing for the public to learn more about Sarah Palin, her origins, her passions, her associates, her behavior as a young politician. The same scrutiny should be directed towards Obama, McCain, and Biden. I suspect most people will like what they discover about Sarah Palin. Will they like what they discover about Obama? How do you spell “Tony Rezko”? What do you know about Jeremiah Wright? Would you want your daughter–or your President–consorting with Bill “the bomber” Ayers?

Noting that for the next weeks Palin will “be swimming in political waters infested with sharks,” Kristol cautions the McCain team to react swiftly but proportionately to the inevitable attacks that will launched against Palin in an effort to preempt the public’s image of her. That’s good advice, but I suspect that Palin will be an even more formidable candidate than the Democrats fear. Kristol quotes a liberal commentator who gleefully adapted a mot from Secretary of State Jim Baker: “putting Sarah Palin into a debate with Joe Biden,” he said “is going to be like throwing Howdy Doody into a knife fight!” Maybe so. But it’s not at all clear who will be Mr. Doody, and who will be wielding the knife. In earlier days, when he was a young, arrogant politician, Joe Biden famously bragged to some questioners about his high IQ (probably higher than yours, he told them). I confess that I rather admired his brass in that exchange. And, probably, the young, arrogant Biden was correct in his assessment. But what of the old, arrogant Biden? What will he be like pitted against a smart, articulate debater who is, at least, his intellectual equal? Anyone care to make a bet?

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1. J.J. Sefton:

I’ve linked to a great post in the upcoming Weekly Standard, from Newt Gingrich. It’s all about Sarah’s authenticity– exactly what Smugsy and Plugsy are woefully lacking.

Oh yeah, the Barracuda is already sharpeining her Bowie knife….

Aug 31, 2008 - 6:21 am 2. Pajamas Media » Sarah Palin and Howdy Doody:

[...] the entire story here [...]

Aug 31, 2008 - 8:46 am 3. LisaP:

Biden will be looking for a new pair after Sarah Palin finishes with him. The election was officially won for John McCain on August 29, 2008, when Sarah Palin, Governor of the great state of Alaska, accepted the offer to be the vice presidential candidate in a speech that mesmerized a nation (and put the fear of God in the loony left).

Aug 31, 2008 - 8:56 am 4. Terry Gain:

“She represents exactly the sort of change that Obama invoked but never managed to articulate.”

It’s not what he says, but what he does. With rare exceptions, and he’s not one, politician’s say what they think will get them elected. Obama did articulate change. The question is what does he really intend to do if elected (besides emasculate the American military)?

If you want to know what he’ll do if elected, look at his past behaviour, including his associations. If you want to know what he’s really like, look at his meagre charitable contributions before he ran for the Presidency.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:17 am 5. Terry Baker:

This is the future of feminism.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:18 am 6. Mudpie:

She can also point out she ordered out the
air force (air national guard) because The Russians Are Comming!

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:19 am 7. Terry Gain:

“But what of the old, arrogant Biden? What will he be like pitted against a smart, articulate debater who is, at least, his intellectual equal?”

Biden’s intellectual equal? Are you doubting Palin or just trying to master the art of understatement.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:21 am 8. barrybarryquitecontrary.com:

It is actually difficult to put in to words the authenticity and capabilities of Gov. Palin. The reason it is difficult is that she can be all things to all people. Not like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama (Sorry Hillary you don’t have it) but with a genuine persona that touches both the heart and the intellect of Betty down at the bakery or a room full of America’s governors (and eventually the world).

I’ve know a few people like Sarah Palin, we all probably have. And when you look at her background, upbringing, education and experience she is someone that you could easily see being governor of any state, an FBI agent, a university president, a high school principle, a CEO of a world class company, and… President of the United States! Sarah Barracuda has got “IT” and it is the IT that Barack Obama desperately wants and will never have and the IT that Bill Clinton could never have depending on what your definition of IT is, is. Sarah Palin is Barack & Bill on steroids!

Sarah Palin is going to artfully show the world what IT is. Sadly, 48% of America has no interest in understanding this phenomena or participating in the process of advancing it. But the other 52% are flat on fire at the sight of such success, humility and grit! Good for us!

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:33 am 9. jdwill:

Agree with the articles main point and the obvious excitement of the base, like JJ’s “bring it on, Joe Howdy” post.

I would like to add that another big plus is that Sarah’s VP pick is sucking the air out of the room. It has pushed Obama’s big night below the fold and while this is a bit of a reach, the recent Gallup and Rasmussen tracking polls are showing an anemic bounce for the Dem convention. Note also that Hillary and Bill scored 6 of the 8 points Obama had per Gallup. Now, post Sarah pick, Rasmussen has Obama a measly +3.

So should the Dems be scared? … yup yup …. and heh to you Ariana.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:39 am 10. Herr Morgenholz:

Gov. Palin will gut Biden like a played out salmon. Just wait until Plugs slips up and calls her “Honey-Pie” or “Sweetie, or something.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:39 am 11. pappy:

my grandpa’s mule has more intelligent than joe hairplug. jo biteone is a 180 pound mouth who doesn’t let facts get in his way in a debate. he just grins like the idiot he is and keeps on lying, look up how he treated clarance thomas. when in doubt, talk louder than your opponent.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:42 am 12. George Clarke:

Hmmm. Anyone remember Billie Jean King v. Bobbie Riggs. I was second year in law school with 30% women in my class when two years prior there were only three women per class for the whole school of about 1000 students. Billie v. Bobbie was all anyone talked about for weeks. I believe Sarah v. Joe will be Round 2. People will watch and they’ll talk about it too. Only difference: Riggs knew how to play tennis. I am not sure, from watching his hearings, if Biden knows how to debate, or even what its for. All he will need to know walking in is that his female opponent is “rabidly anti-abortion,” whatever that means. Even with the risk of the mother’s death? Sarah will not be so unprepared, as J. J. Sefton above notes. I think it is Biden’s debate to lose, but an outside reformer against one of the broken cogs of one of the main pillars of Western Civilization that Americans desparately want to see fixed, well, this debate could well rank up there with Williams Jennings Bryan v. Clarence Darrow. Bryan didn’t have a chance and neither I don’t think Biden will either. But will that move the election significantly, where one candidate is 72 and the other appears to be an apostate son of a Muslim, now Christian, who most certainly be marked for death by various fringe elements. I really don’t know but I will certainly be tuning in.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:42 am 13. Lisa:

Take a look all over the Internet. The Obamatrons are panicked and rightfully so.

They are trying to spread some lame ass rumor that Palin’s baby was really her daughter’s baby. What shits.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:43 am 14. jdwill:

T for true, Lisa. Check out Huffo, you have to scroll forever to get to a non-Sarah article and a picture of the Messiah(tm).

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:49 am 15. David:

I am praying for McCain’s continued good health.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:50 am 16. TomJW:

Check out any of idiot Joe’s ‘questions’ during a supreme court judge committee meeting. All his time wasted with his free thoughts roaming all over the place. When done, all the nominees needed to ask, and only had time left for, “What was the question?”.

Palin debating Biden will be like shooting fish staked to the ground.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:52 am 17. jdwill:

My favorite Slammy Joe , courtesy of Peggy Noonan:

The great thing about Joe Biden during the Alito hearings, the reason he is, to me, actually endearing, is that as he speaks, as he goes on and on and spins his long statements, hypotheticals, and free associations–as he demonstrates yet again, as he did in the Roberts hearings and even the Thomas hearings, that he is incapable of staying on the river of a thought, and is constantly lured down tributaries from which he can never quite work his way back–you can see him batting the little paddles of his mind against the weeds, trying desperately to return to the river but not remembering where it is, or where it was going. I love him. He’s human, like a garrulous uncle after a drink.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:57 am 18. Sandra M:

Biden smart? Isn’t his nickname “Slow Joe”? or did someone make that up?

What the reaction from the MSM demonstrates once again is that it’s not really about “women’s rights” or about “Black civil rights”. It’s always about women and Blacks who hold the correct Marxist positions.

I just watched Meet The Press with Tom Brokaw, Andrea Mitchell and plagiarist Doris Kearns Goodwin. It was like attending an insider’s DC cocktail party. They just got the Beltway votes, those of Manhattan and San Francisco, Hollywood and precious few others. The disdain for the “working class” makes British aristocracy seem egalitarian.

Palin has it in her to be another Margaret Thatcher. I’m actually going to send a check to the McCain-Palin team. Thatcher didn’t have foreign policy expertise when she started but she surrounded herself with smart people. Idiot Obama didn’t even meet with the general who won the war in Iraq. Oh, that’s right. Obama doesn’t acknowledge that we’ve won.

I am not a conservative. I joined the Reform Party in 1992, along with many disaffected Republicans and Democrats. Palin is exactly the kind of candidate to appeal to reform-minded Independents who want to get rid of the corruption in Washington DC as Palin got rid of in Alaska and Obama did not help with in Chicago.

Aug 31, 2008 - 10:00 am 19. J.J. Sefton:

George:

Biden doesn’t debate. He bloviates. He takes most of the time during a congressional hearing to spew non-sequiter B.S. before even asking a question. Remember the disgusting spectacle he put Clarence Thomas through?

Well, this time, during a structured debate, my gut is that he is going to get totally smoked. He’s going to condescend to Sarah and have a Rick Lazio moment which women will see and react to. He can’t help it. He’s that stupid and narcissistic. Can’t wait for the debate.

McCain/Palin ‘08 VICTORY (P.O.W. & WOW!)

Aug 31, 2008 - 10:02 am 20. kaba:

Palin reminds me so much of my sister. My sister is one of God’s kindest and most gentle creations with a huge heart. However, if you provoke her she can, with one gently spoken sentence, make you appear to be a total fool. And more importantly you feel like a total fool.

Biden won’t have the bully pulpit of a Senate chair to pontificate from. He will make his usual snide and caustic remarks at his own peril.

Palin in a KO at about question number 2.

Aug 31, 2008 - 10:03 am 21. Terry Gain:

David:

“I am praying for McCain’s continued good health”.

Dear David,

I’m praying for people like you to smarten up.

Aug 31, 2008 - 10:09 am 22. jdwill:

Who says Biden can’t be succinct?

See it all in a minute:
http://www.236.com/video/2008/watch_the_democratic_conventio_8594.php

Good day, all.

Aug 31, 2008 - 10:10 am 23. m. tomlinson:

I beg to differ with Mr. Kimball, Joe Biden is not loosing sleep over Mrs. Palin. He is not smart enough to figure out that she is way above him in every category.

Aug 31, 2008 - 10:19 am 24. Self-hating boomer:

Ordinarily, the VP choice is much ado about nothing. It’s an opportunity for the talking heads to talk. This is different. For the first time in my lifetime, the VP choice not only matters, but is getting people genuinely excited. This is much, much more significant that when Dukakis eclipsed himself with Bensen in 1988, and far more significant than when Mondale was strong armed into choosing Ferraro in 1984.

This is beyond bold; this is something profoundly new.

Aug 31, 2008 - 10:33 am 25. The Wizard:

Sarah Palin is the epitome of “Hope and Change” — Obama talks about it, and goes the same old liberal, left wing route; McCain walks it, and picked a brilliant VP candidate. She has more experinece than OBAMA, plus the ethics, character, values, management skills and respect totally devoid with Obama.

I say “GAME ON” and this election will forever change the political process.

Aug 31, 2008 - 10:51 am 26. Boris:

“Don’t be fooled: the left is terrified of Sarah Palin.”

Wishful thinking. As the posts by the rabid righties at this site show, Palin is a pick that invigorates the base. But that was at best a minor problem for McCain. She is too conservative to excite independents (she wants creationism taught in science class and denies global warming), and way too conservative to excite Hilary supporters (pro-life). Finally, her inexperience blunts McCain’s best line of attack against Obama.

Unless she is a superstar campaigner, I don’t think she’ll make any difference in this race at all.

Aug 31, 2008 - 10:57 am 27. Boghie:

Governor Palin is the model of a Nomad archetype generation [Strauss and Howe, 'The Fourth Turning'].

She is a tough GenXer.

She will treat Senator Biden (an Artist archetype) with respect till he proves he does not warrant that honor.

Senator Biden will oblige that adjustment soon. I do not think the Senatorial Blowhard Clown will wait for the VP debate to lob some dumb 70mph ‘fastball’ at her. Maybe some dumb comment on her ability to lead, her ability to handle foreign affairs, her track record. Senator Biden would be wise to think it through. He has never led, never signed a treaty, never stood alone on a decision.

Then, Governor Palin will destroy him – and he will be dumbfounded. We are talking about a ‘Where’s the Beef’ moment. A Dukakis in a helmet. A Kerry in a Bunny Suit.

This is going to be a great debate. There will be no decorum after Biden tries some legalistic stupidity.

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:01 am 28. LittleOrby:

Self-hating boomer, I was watching Fox New’s Chris Wallace’s show this morning when someone said, “Don’t get too excited; in the end VP choices mean very little in a presidental election.” Like you, for the first time in my lifetime (and I’m an Old man), I think this VP pick will/does make a difference: a hugh difference.

I think Palin will be a great VP; and, a greater president when McCain retires after his first term . . . I’m fired up!

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:08 am 29. Ten:

PJM, who writes these bylines? “Palin will be an even more formidable candidate than the Democrats fear?” So what formidable VP candidate other than Palin do they fear?

Further down the page we find: “There’s steel behind that beautiful smile that Democrats belittle at their peril.” Democrats belittle “that” smile?

With Taylor Marsh’s illiterate ramblings now also littering your pages, are you trying to thumb your nose at the language? Maybe you guys can’t afford a decent copy editor?

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:14 am 30. mike scaffidi:

now mac has my 100% backing!

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:28 am 31. Rotwang:

I know you guys are all excited about having someone on your ticket who doesn’t look like he’s selling Metamucil, but where are we getting the notion that Palin is some sort of intellectual powerhouse? You seem to be citing facts not in evidence.

Nonetheless, party on. I still remember when Fred Thompson was the kick-ass conservative novelty-du-jour. Good times, good times.

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:30 am 32. Javelin:

LisaP,
is she going to bite or cut them off? What a crude little person you are, a perfect female con. You go girl, iron my shirts!

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:35 am 33. Javelin:

Oh great, she’s a creationist. That should energize all the morons and jesus babblers. Oh yeah, teaching creationism means no more Holocausts.

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:37 am 34. Pelayo:

These liberal men and women are scared spitless of a woman who can bait her own hook, kill a spider, clean an AR-15, run a state, and raise children. Sarah Palin, destroys the lie that a woman must choose career or family. Biden will be a deer in the headlights, Sarah Palin’s headlights. Thump, thump.

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:38 am 35. Tom:

To Boris et al – the VP’s opinion on things like creationism don’t mean squat. McCain will have a foreign policy team, cabinet members, secretary of state, remember? If I were you I would just forget about 08, and if Palin’s interest in creationism bothers you, when she is running as POTUS in ‘12, then support whatever monkey is running on the DNC ticket….

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:39 am 36. Gary Ogletree:

We owe a big Thank You to Sarah Palin and her family. They just gave up a normal life in Alaska to move into the national spotlight, the DC swamp, etc. And I suspect they are in it for the best of reasons: the good ol’ USA needs the kind of genuine change that Palin represents. I see a revitalized McCain who now has a potent ally in the struggle to root out the cancer of corruption that defines our political system today and endangers our precious republic. I’m betting America is ready.

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:48 am 37. ic:

VP choices mean very little in a presidential election…

And so we go back to choosing between an experienced, national security tough 72 years old and a talented teleprompted parrot.

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:49 am 38. Richard:

Are you excited by the choice of Sarah Palin for VP?. Consider the following story.

It was a time of trouble, and there was great anxiety throughout the Kingdom. The Dark Knight, a newcomer of unknown parentage who was rumored to be from a foreign land, had infiltrated one of the two great Castles of the Kingdom, the Blue Castle where the Blue Queen reigned. There he charmed and won over the court and the people with his good looks and eloquent speech, promising them gifts as numerous as the sand on the seashore should they make him King. “Is he the One?” some whispered. “He certainly acts like a King,” was the reply. With great cunning and deception he convinced the people of the Blue Castle to help him remove the Blue Queen from the throne, which they proceeded to do without a drop of blood being shed. But the Dark Knight, having captured the Blue Castle, now had plans to conquer the entire Kingdom. With great entertainment, fireworks, and spectacle he gathered those over whom he had cast his spell and began his campaign.

All that stood between him and mastery over the entire Kingdom was the Good Knight John and the people of the second great Castle in the Kingdom, the Red Castle. The Good Knight was an old warrior who had fought for the Kingdom long ago. He had been held several years as a captive in a foreign country, where he had been tortured on the rack and subjected to many cruel mistreatments. When he finally was released and allowed to return to his country, he served for many years as a Knight in the Court of the Old King.

Good Knight John recognized the lies and deceptions of the Dark Knight and he vowed to stand firmly against him. But the Dark Knight had grown powerful, and held the Blue Court in a hypnotic trance. There was a dire air cast over the land. The Good Knight prepared to do battle, but the infirmities of age had come upon him, and the people of the Red Castle were wondering if he could prevail. Could he defeat the Dark Knight and save the Kingdom? There was great anxiety in the court. “What was to be done?” they asked. The Good Knight John was in need of a champion, someone to stand with him in battle, someone of courage, someone who could inspire. So Good John, old and tired as he was, embarked on a quest for a champion meet for him. Months passed, as he traveled from one region of the Kingdom to another, meeting the great men of each castle and dukedom and testing their wisdom and their strength. But still he did not find a champion meet for him. And then one day, as if a vision had entered his dreams the night before, Good John met a young Princess ruling over a little known castle in the most distant part of the Kingdom, far to the north in the region of snow and ice. She was a warrior Princess who had stepped forward and fought for justice and become the leader of her people. And Good John asked her to be his Champion against the Dark Knight, and with great courage and inner strength she accompanied him to the Red Castle, stood before the court and people, and agreed to be John’s Champion. As if pulling a sword from a stone, she entered the arena of battle. There was a cry of joy! The people of the Red Castle had found a Champion, a Warrior-Princess, and they followed her to march behind the Good Knight John as they began the fight of their lives for the preservation of the Kingdom.

What a story! It does not matter that it might not be true. What matters is that it COULD be true, and that is exciting! How the story ends depends much on how we believe it will end. It really is something to hope for. It really is something to believe in. And it really can lead to change.

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:53 am 39. BC:

Well, an open-minded skeptic might perchance look more into Palin’s past decision making, like, oh say, in regards to the “Bridge to Nowhere” business that’s suppose to be the highlight of her political life so far:
http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/511471.html

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:54 am 40. Joshua:

Boris – “Wishful thinking. As the posts by the rabid righties at this site show, Palin is a pick that invigorates the base. But that was at best a minor problem for McCain.”

Sarah Palin brings the rockstar excitement that Barack has manufactured (and smuggly said we didn’t have) with his free rock concerts around the globe by simply being who she is instead of a slick, metro-sexual markeing message wrapped in rose colored cellophane (clear plastic couch cover for Biden).

“She is too conservative to excite independents (she wants creationism taught in science class and denies global warming),”

Creationism Boris, has at it’s very core more empirical science than Darwanism & the theory of evolution (the religion of secular humanism) because of a little thing in molecular biology we call irreducible complexity, I doubt that you’ve heard of it. Take just one amino acid – glutathione out of your miserable bag of flesh and you would be dead before you hit the ground! I’m not going to explain it to you because it is a waste of time to do so. This is one among a growing number of reasons creationism is also called Intelligent Design you big dope. And if your interested in teaching science (we know you’re not) the evidence for intelligent design far outweighs your junk “science” that you were a dirt clod in a mud puddle struck by lightning & then a slizzard & then a birdonkey & then ape-o-man from which you have not evolved. Your secular humanist science friends don’t even believe this crap anymore, but they’ll cling to their religion and golf clubs by their nightstand and antipathy for people that aren’t like them I’m sure!

Gov. Palin does not deny cyclical global warming and cooling you idiot, she just says that mankind (of intelligent design) ain’t the culprit. Although I would support clacking China & India upside their heads for raping the environment. I’m sure your sending money to the U.N. right now to bring China under control.

“…and way too conservative to excite Hilary supporters (pro-life). Finally, her inexperience blunts McCain’s best line of attack against Obama.”

You actually think we’re trying to excite all the bull dikes in the Hillary camp? That’s so ignorant it’s HILL-arious! We could care less about exciting 40% of your screwed up, liberal socialist crack-pots. Oh, but that 7-8% that havn’t drank all their Kool-aid yet, you bet your dumb arse we’re going to get them excited!

Experience? That’s a joke too! Any governor (or mayor) in America has more experience & workload in one month than Barack had in 1 year in the Senate. You’re about to find out comrade Boris.

“Unless she is a superstar campaigner, I don’t think she’ll make any difference in this race at all.”

So after all your usual blabber you concede the point that if she is a “superstar campaigner” it will be a difference maker. Well, hold on to your dunce cap Boris because she is about to rip you and Obambi and JoeBlow a new one! It’s going to be fun to watch.

Aug 31, 2008 - 11:56 am 41. Bullfrog:

I see a huge difference in the reaction of conservatives to Palin than I saw from Democrats when Biden was selected as Obama’s V.P. The Left was scrambling to make the point, “He’s good, he really is! Really!” It was a little desperate.

Palin has caused conservatives to wake up from their slumber of complacency and actually get fired up about the election. Has anyone seen the amount of funding the McCain/Palin ticket has received in just a couple days? I see comment after comment by previously bitter conservatives, formerly vowing to either not vote at all or just “hold their nose” and vote McCain, now talking about writing checks, buying number stickers and puting signs in their front yards.

This whole election season, the left has had a HUGE advantage over conservatives in one of the most important aspects of a election: enthusiasm. That has just changed, and I can’t see how Obama and those who declare their support for his campaign are not worried.

Aug 31, 2008 - 12:00 pm 42. Self-hating boomer:

Boris, if the left isn’t terrified of her, why are you even here?

Aug 31, 2008 - 12:05 pm 43. Bullfrog:

Oops, I meant “bumper stickers” up top there…

It is also worth mentioning that Obama’s less than average post-convention “bump” has already started to deteriorate, I believe as a direct result of one Mrs. Palin. Check out Gallup and Zogby.

Aug 31, 2008 - 12:08 pm 44. jg:

Great choice, but I hope we don’t depend on the assumption that Mr. Biden is stupid. He isn’t, and neither is anyone else who becomes a senator, or a governor, or even a mayor of a town of a few thousand souls.

But Mr. Biden is misguided in his beliefs. Furthermore, he has obvious personal weaknesses that can be exploited in the debates. I feel sure a sitting governor can tempt him to overplay his hand. One observes that Mr. Obama has already overplayed his own hand.

That’s all it takes to win. I have students who can win the conservative side of these debates.

Aug 31, 2008 - 12:10 pm 45. halfacarafe:

“I spoke to a savvy, politically connected friend yesterday who told me that MSM journalists were already packing into planes, trains, and automobiles to hie themselves thither to Alaska in order to prospect for the gold of D.O.P.–dirt on Palin. Well, good luck to ‘em. What the Clinton’s called (and, even more, what they practiced) “the politics of personal destruction” is never pretty. But I suspect that, like most gold prospectors of yore, they will come up empty handed in this case. The only thing I’ve heard is the story about her getting her unstable brother-in-law fired: not much there for the fourth estate, especially since Palin has been so cooperative with the inquiry that they haven’t even had to issue a subpoena.”

“The same scrutiny should be directed towards Obama”

That is the problem with the last few democrat picks. They pick the first shiny object they think can win, some unknown package. Then are miffed when the people have to dig up their ouwn information on the candidate and don’t like what they find. Too bad there is not an organization or group of professionals out there that are willing to find that information in a non biased way and present it to the american people so they can make an informed decision. It seems the msm trys its best to cover for its new shiny object as long as it can but will ferociously dig information on it’s percieved enemies. Must keep the sheeple in the dark about their pick.

Aug 31, 2008 - 12:10 pm 46. Jephnol:

“Experience? That’s a joke too! Any governor (or mayor) in America has more experience & workload in one month than Barack had in 1 year in the Senate.”

Well, hold on there… Wasn’t Obama only a Senator for 150 days or so before the session ended? And then he went on the campaign trail. So really he only has less than half a year’s experience as a Senator.

Aug 31, 2008 - 12:10 pm 47. Boris:

“You actually think we’re trying to excite all the bull dikes in the Hillary camp?”

Dear Joshua,

You are a stupid person and a horrible person. You are an embarrassment to your party and you don’t even know how to spell the foul slurs you use. Seek help.

Aug 31, 2008 - 12:37 pm 48. Lee:

It’s always important to grind the snouts of white liberals into the sewers and ditches of their disappearing cultural artifacts and growing negroism.

Aug 31, 2008 - 12:48 pm 49. chuck:

Anyone remember Billie Jean King v. Bobbie Riggs.

Heh, same analogy was passing through my mind last night. Not least because I talked a fellow student into putting money on Billie Jean. The odds were terrific and he made good money.

Aug 31, 2008 - 12:49 pm 50. Ed Wallis:

A nice if short piece.

One WISH I have is that the Republicans DO NOT ALLOW any of the firestorm of “questioning” of Palin to

distract (hah!) or

lessen the INTENSE FOCUS ON OBAMA’S WEAKNESSES (among others: inexperience) and

FAULTS (“inexperience” one can understand, if not excuse…BUT NOT 20 YEARS MENTORED BY RACIST, ANTI-AMERICAN REV. WRIGHT, YEARLONG DEALINGS WITH UNREPENTANT DOMESTIC TERRORIST BILL AYERS…among others…).

Aug 31, 2008 - 1:01 pm 51. Joshua:

Boris – Gotcha! We’re laughing with you, not at you, really!

Aug 31, 2008 - 1:04 pm 52. Joshua:

Boris – I’m just curious, as a lesbian Hillary supporter, what are your thoughts on the facts I presented? Or are the facts just too much to consider right now? I’m sure I can get your girfriend a signed picture of Sarah “Barracuda” Palin, that wouldn’t upset you would it?

Aug 31, 2008 - 1:10 pm 53. Boris:

You didn’t present any facts. You simply repeated the nonsense from Behe and Demski that’s been discredited over and over. Now go off to church and pray for more AIDS or whatever it is you homophobic bigots do with your Sunday.

Aug 31, 2008 - 1:23 pm 54. tanstaafl:

She represents exactly the sort of change that Obama invoked but never managed to articulate.

Exactly.

Finally, someone willing to wade into national politics who is actually fresh and exciting.

And what’s with the whole internal plumbing fixation, anyway ?

Sarah Palin is way more decisive executive material than the dithering, flip flopping Democrat candidate for President.

The pundits are really showing their true colors in hysterical writing, trying to diss and diminish Sarah Palin.

If a cadre of jackasses (uh, MSM press) is boarding planes to Alaska in an attempt to dig dirt, I hope they all get run over by a herd of caribou.

Aug 31, 2008 - 1:24 pm 55. Rachel Peepers:

Gail Collins article in yesterday’s NY Times ridiculing the idea that a significant number of Hillary followers and women in general are going to vote for Sarah in large part solely because Sarah is a woman is true.

It’s right as rain. Accurate as a sniper rifle at 500 yards.

Of course, many others will vote for Palin for other reasons. And some won’t vote for her at all for still other reasons.

Well, you may ask, On what do I base that belief?

Do I have any evidence that many, many women would vote for a woman for so superficial a reason as because she’s of the female gender?

Yes, members of the Peanut Gallery, I do.

The first example that comes to mind:

Barack Obama.

Fact: 90% of blacks will be voting for Obama.

Why?

Is it because he won’t drill off shore? And will keep us dependent on foreign oil. I don’t think so.

Is it because he lambasts the surge and belittles the U.S. troop who made it work? No, that’s not why.

Is it because he’s pledged to gut the U.S. military and cut veteran’s benefits? No. Nobody in their right mind would vote for somebody for that reason.

No to all. That’s not why blacks are giving Obama their vote.

They’re voting for Barack not because of the content of his character or his unpopular stance on the issues; not at all.

90% of blacks are, in fact, voting for Barack, pure and simple, because he’s black.

It’s that little fact that Gail Collins conveniently overlooked.

Virtually all African Americans will be voting for Barack simply because he’s black.

And that’s a fact, Jack.

Aug 31, 2008 - 1:27 pm 56. Mike Shuster:

Even Mike Murphy, who ran McCain’s last campaign, thinks the idea that Palin will attract disenchanted Clinton supporters is nuts. (Check out his blog at Time Magazine.) Sure, given the choice between a man and a woman who share the same political views (Obama and Clinton), women will generally vote for the female candidate, as we saw. But that doesn’t mean they’ll vote for a woman who *doesn’t* share their views.

Maybe Palin does get out more evangelical votes, though.

Aug 31, 2008 - 1:31 pm 57. Self-hating boomer:

If a cadre of jackasses (uh, MSM press) is boarding planes to Alaska in an attempt to dig dirt, I hope they all get run over by a herd of caribou.

Maybe at long last they finally will get to see what a sorry piece of real estate the North Slope is, and stop talking about it like it’s Eden of the north.

Aug 31, 2008 - 1:48 pm 58. Julie:

The thing is Palin never needed to articulate “change” since she demonstrated it from Day 1. She’s remarkably eloquent though. I am excited to see the how she handles herself in the debates and on the stump.

Aug 31, 2008 - 1:57 pm 59. Women hear me roar:

Boris: please take a look at:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-vs-barack-obama/
Someone has done a great job comparing Pallin and obama. Worth a read for everyone els.

Aug 31, 2008 - 1:57 pm 60. tanstaafl:

Facts won’t matter to the MSM, SHB.

One of the reasons Alaska joined the union, some 50 years ago (as noted by Sarah Palin) is to be a resource rich source for the Lower 48.

But rules and regulations and designation of federal lands have frustrated her (and other Alaskans) in developing their state’s own resources.

I don’t believe the fact that ANWAR drilling would affect approx. only 2000 acres out of millions will necessarily, have an effect on the closed minded, biased MSM or stubborn school marms like Nancy Pelosi.

Aug 31, 2008 - 1:58 pm 61. Women hear me roar:

Whoops else.

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:00 pm 62. Tom:

Mike – exactly, and while Rachel is very right on mostly, I think she is wrong on this – take a look at those polls – we have only seen a very small part of the electorate so far – My own poll is…… as we have a 30% minority population in town, it is interesting that there are some O signs in the part of town near the university, but saw more McCain signs than O signs in the more minority parts of town….the 90% of blacks voting for blacks is an MSM made-up dream. If the candidate doesn’t share their views, they are not getting the vote, and that 90% is grossly inflated. Reality I think is going to hit the DNC in a very unfriendly way soon.,….

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:01 pm 63. tanstaafl:

…only 2000 acres out of millions

That’s an area smaller than LAX, Los Angeles Internat’l airport.

(also mentioned by Sarah during her interview in June with Glen Beck)

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:02 pm 64. Joshua:

***URGENT PJM NEWS*** Boris confirms her bigotry and lack of intellectual honesty to millions of PJM readers!

What we all knew is now confirmed; Boris is a man-hating, America hating lesbian bigot! Hey Boris, I’ll bet you would like to burn all the books that don’t support your radical left ideology wouldn’t you? No, even better, stack ‘em all up in churches across America and burn the whole damn thing down huh? Doesn’t that make your panties wet you hate filled bigot?

Your delusional, socialist mental illness is starting to show its ugly little face. I’ll bet it was the molecular biology (that’s a scientific discipline for your pot smoking friends at the university)that got you… irreducible complexity… oh, that sounds like some GW Bush war mongering BS I’ll just skip that tid bit of info!!!

Smell that…. yep, that’s you and your socialist friends in a pile of crap. Maybe Obambi and JoeBlow will call the U.N. and have some sh*t keepers sent over to swat the flies… until the methane gets you (methane is a gas found using scientific practices that you wouldn’t be interested in).

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:04 pm 65. Lee Hamilton:

Palin is an inspired choice. What an interesting race this is shaping up to be.

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:04 pm 66. Donna:

Sandra M.: I remember seeing Doris Kearns Goodwin look into her crystal ball on Election Night ‘00 and confidently predict that if GWB got in, he’d be another John Quincy Adams. Didn’t quite worked out that way, did it?

Goodwin probably has never met anybody remotely like Palin in her life.

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:07 pm 67. Herr Morgenholz:

It was a time of trouble, and there was great anxiety throughout the Kingdom. The Dark Knight, a newcomer of unknown parentage who was rumored to be from a foreign land, had infiltrated one of the two great Castles of the Kingdom, the Blue Castle where the Blue Queen reigned.

Richard, have you considered e-harmony.com?

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:11 pm 68. tanstaafl:

Doris Kearns Goodwin and Joe Biden both share the plagiarism gene.

(well, somebody had to say it…:) )

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:13 pm 69. Rachel Peepers:

Guys,

Just when I think I’m writing really well, I totally redeem myself. I screwed up my first sentence. I meant to say I disagree with Gail Collins’ premise. Sorry. I’m going into the kitchen to bake some Sunday cookies.

Just one thought. Likability is important in a candidate? Yes?

Well, now we have a really likable person running. Not Biden or Barack or McCain. It’s, of course, Sarah Palin. I think, for all intents and purposes, for the first time in American history, the VP choice was a crucial choice.

What’s more, the more Barack’s henchmen attack Palin, the fewer women will vote for him. McCain has put Barack between a rock and a hard place. It’s like playing tic tac toe. With Sarah, there’s almost no place for his attack dogs to go. They can sniff at her heels and growl a bit, but attack? No way. Biden must be at his wits end.

Tom: That was a very insightful comment. I hope you’re right.

The McCain boys have definitely outwitted the Barack boys.

John McCain, thankfully, will be our next President.

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:23 pm 70. Self-hating boomer:

tanstaafl, most of us southerners don’t realize one thing about Alaska, and that’s that the federal gov’t owns something like 80% of the land. As you say, the original idea was that this was going to benefit both Alaskans and the rest of us tremendously by making the resources available. Then the environmentalists came along with their padlocks. Is it any wonder that Alaska is a red state?

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:30 pm 71. Donna:

I don’t think women will vote for Palin just because she’s a woman. I just like her positions and her background.

That said, I and millions of other women will have very strong reactions if “high I.Q.” Biden talks down to her during the debate. And I am sure he will because Biden has only two speeds during debates – either he’s condescending or he’s bullying. He’ll be warned not to bully, so he’ll automatically condescend.

Now Biden talks down to everyone, male or female. I don’t think he draws any gender distinctions – he believes he’s smarter than anybody. But when he does it to Palin on TV, many, many women (particularly those over 40) will remember the boss who called them “honey” or the old boyfriend or male relative who told them politics was over their pretty little heads.

A very nuanced approach will be needed – and Biden is about as nuanced as ’70’s heavy metal.

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:32 pm 72. Self-hating boomer:

McCain’s reminding me of Col. Hannibal Smith, with his s**t-eating Cheshire cat grin, saying “I love it when a plan comes together”.

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:41 pm 73. dzent:

The left is terrified by Palin? The left? No, the entire nation is terrified that should such a completely unqualified person ever make it to the White House, that in a moment of disaster she might actually become President.
Any attempt to suggest otherwise is an exercise in desperation, and you know it. There are times when following the party line is OUT OF THE QUESTION, and this is definitely one of them.
For those of you who think this is just peachy, ask yourselves whether or not terrorists or adversarial nations would not strike the very second such an unknowledgeable person took command.
This is not a movie, folks. This is real life. And this is an INSULT to ALL Americans. You have children to think of here, and the survival of a nation wounded by eight years of mis-management on every level. How about for once showing the wisdom of statesmen, not party yes-men. Turn this one down.

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:42 pm 74. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: Javelin and the Big Lie

Oh great, she’s a creationist. — Javelin

I’ve seen a number of so-called ‘progressives’ bring this up and whenever I’ve asked them for evidence to support their claim….

….{chirp….chirp….chirp….ad infinitum….}

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[The difference between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives. -- Mark Twain]

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:50 pm 75. Gedaliya:

I agree with Camille Paglia that Palin will be the first woman president of the United States.

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:58 pm 76. John Austin fitness:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=26109

Hillary supporters love Sarah and can’t stand Lunchpail Joe.

Aug 31, 2008 - 3:00 pm 77. barrybarryquitecontrary.com:

dzent – You’re on the right track here, just keep going now, just a little further with your circular reasoning… there it is, I see it coming… BOOM! You just proved why Barack Obama is a complete joke to be President of the United States.

150 days Obambi was in the Senate before launching his run for the White House? 5+ years with un-repentant terrorist Bill Ayers wasting 100 million dollars on social engineering ‘er I mean education and greasing the wheels of community grifters far and wide. You are all over it, we’re afraid, very afraid.

Bumper Sticker #1 – BarryBarryQuiteContrary!
Bumper Sticker #2 – ScaryBarryQuiteContrary!

That about covers it all!

Aug 31, 2008 - 3:01 pm 78. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: D[iz]z[y-Pueril]ent….

The left is terrified by Palin? The left? No, the entire nation is terrified that should such a completely unqualified person ever make it to the White House, that in a moment of disaster she might actually become President. — dzent

….Sophistry.

He makes an EXCELLENT example of EXACTLY the behavior so many others here have noted from the so-called ‘progressives’ and Roger editorialized about.

They’re REALLY turning into a comedic episode of Keystone Kops-esque proportion; caroming off of each other and off the walls of the blogosphere as if someone shot a hundred superballs into a racketball court. And with each bounce you hear someone screaming….like dzent here.

When the finally come to rest, they’re going to just lie there on the floor. And, many of them will still by lying, like Javelin (above).

RE: dzent’s Arg

….such a completely unqualified person ever make it to the White House, that in a moment of disaster she might actually become President. — dzent

I wonder what he thought of Bill Clinton becoming president.

Surely being governor of Alaska, being in such close proximity to the only nation on the face of the Earth that could obliterate many of our largest cities, must have more ‘experience’ with the military than he did when he assumed office.

And that’s just one of many compare and contrast matters relating to Palin’s experience over their darling’s. There are so many more. ESPECIALLY if you compare and contrast her against Senators Obama and Biden; neither of whom have held an executive position in government; let alone being commander-in-chief of ANY military formation.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[It's a pity that being stupid isn't painful.]

Aug 31, 2008 - 3:03 pm 79. Pelayo:

jg said: “. . . assumption that Mr. Biden is stupid. He isn’t, and neither is anyone else who becomes a senator, or a governor . . .”

There are exceptions to every generalization. Here are two – Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul.

Aug 31, 2008 - 3:39 pm 80. The Wide Awake Cafe » John McCain, Sarah Palin and Christmas in August:

[...] package wrapped up in blue reveals that Democrats are really scared to death of [...]

Aug 31, 2008 - 3:55 pm 81. Sweating Through Fog:

Palin appeals to a very large demographic that the Democrats have abandoned. She is married to a man, and she doesn’t seem at all unhappy with her situation. This is problematic for disgruntled HRC Democrats. Joe “would you like some sugar with your restraining order, Ma’am?” Biden Democrats believe that women should be able to leave their marriages for any reason or for no reason, and that taxpayers and child support enforcement policies must be designed to make this choice a neutral one, with no economic consequences at all for mom and her children. The fact that she remains married to a man – after 20 years! – and has born 5 children with him is deeply troubling to Democrats.

The fact that she’s been able to embark on a successful political career, and still have 5 children, is a thumb in the eye as far as Democrats are concerned. Democrats maintain that the freedom to have both children and a career requires government assistance, since men, by their very nature, have to be compelled by government to support women and their children. When a women chooses a lifelong partnership with a man, all she is doing is making a sneaky end-run around the government, selfishly consuming his wages and his labor directly from the source.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:04 pm 82. Ash_N:

From this side of the fence, I find it so funny how the OB Talking Heads keep saying: “….the idea that Palin will attract disenchanted Clinton supporters is nuts ..” Don’t they know the voters may not share her views, but its called strategic voting? Done all the time, to achieve a bigger goal. Where have these so called experts been?

Also, I find it strange how the MSM are out digging dirt on the governor – cannot find any, so they resort to stupid attacks (see MO DO NY Times today).

Ash_N, Toronto, Canada.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:05 pm 83. ed:

Chuck(les) said:

“ESPECIALLY if you compare and contrast her against Senators Obama and Biden; neither of whom have held an executive position in government; let alone being commander-in-chief of ANY military formation.”

Um, McCain has never held an executive position in government either. The Commander-in-chief designation is reserved specifically and only for the president of the U.S. Therefore, by definition, no first term president EVER has experience as commander in chief.

Gov. Palin’s pick by McCain is a Hail Mary pass. That is a play that only gets used when you do not have a chance in hell of winning.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:07 pm 84. Ed Wallis:

dzent: “For those of you who think this [Palin as VP] is just peachy, ask yourselves whether or not terrorists or adversarial nations would not strike the very second such an unknowledgeable person took command.”

…and just what do you think “terrorists or adversarial nations” would do with a “Present-dent” Obama?!!?

Thank you, FOOL, for showing everyone why Obama is NO CHOICE for the Presidency.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:12 pm 85. mtraven:

Wow, there are some real pinheads among the wingnut commenters here. Roger the intellectual must be proud to be supporting this sort of salon of high-minded thinkers.

The premise of this post is ridiculous. The left is not “losing sleep” over Palin, the left is laughing its ass off at the weakness and chaos this reveals in the McCain campaign.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:15 pm 86. Donna:

No, the entire nation is terrified that should such a completely unqualified person ever make it to the White House, that in a moment of disaster she might actually become President.

I am far less afraid of the (slight) possibility of Palin taking over the reins in February 2010 (or February 2009, for that matter) than of Obama – a creation of the Chicago machine – becoming the actual president in January 2009.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:19 pm 87. tanstaafl:

Good points, sweating.

(I like the quotation from Walt Whitman)

I always thought that Biden’s “prevent violence against women” initiative was a purely political ploy on his part.

That he needed an “issue” (or thought he did).

From my perspective, initiatives by the federal government “on behalf of women” are practically meaningless in terms of effective outcomes.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:24 pm 88. AdrianS:

They got the Honorable Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin to join the ticket by assuring her that it’s open season on all Obamoose around.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:26 pm 89. Zhombre:

Yes, that’s right, mtraven. The left is laughing its collective ass off over Palin. Same way they laughed their collective asses off at Ronald Reagan. I love it when the lefties laugh.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:27 pm 90. Donna:

The left is not “losing sleep” over Palin, the left is laughing its ass off at the weakness and chaos this reveals in the McCain campaign.

If the left isn’t losing sleep, it’s because you’re all too stupid to realize that Palin is a game-changer.

As I’ve said elsewhere, I remember the liberals being highly entertained when Reagan was nominated in 1980. They also snickered at Bush in 2000 and 2004.

By all means, laugh now. Continue to dismiss Palin as a rube and a bimbo. We shall see who is laughing in November.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:27 pm 91. Clint:

Pelayo:

“jg said: “. . . assumption that Mr. Biden is stupid. He isn’t, and neither is anyone else who becomes a senator, or a governor . . .”

There are exceptions to every generalization. Here are two – Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul.”

Both in the House. Much easier to get folks who are either incompetent or extremely out of the mainstream (or both) in the House. It has something to do with Gerrymandering. And also something to do with the clustering of odd subcultures.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:30 pm 92. tanstaafl:

For those of you who think this [Palin as VP] is just peachy, ask yourselves whether or not terrorists or adversarial nations would not strike the very second such an unknowledgeable person took command.

Every “terrorist” country is rooting for Barack.

Putin probably is as well, seein’ as how he could set about reconstituting the Soviet Union with impunity while Nero fiddled.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:32 pm 93. Whitehall:

The man with the toughest job right now is Todd Palin, Alaska’s First Dude.

He’s going to read stuff about his wife that he won’t take mano-mano from Paul Bunyan, much less some snotty writer or reporter from New York City.

His past will be investigated. He’ll get setup questions designed to humiliate him. Women will make up salacious stories about them and him to get their photos on Drudge.

Plus, he’ll have to ride herd on the kids to make sure this is a learning experience for them but to not let it go to their (or his) head.

He looks like a great guy, a standup guy, facing a tough few months.

Here’s the best of luck to him and his family.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:38 pm 94. Donna:

BTW, Camille Paglia, a die-hard Dem and Obama fan, has enough brains not to laugh:

We may be seeing the first woman president. As a Democrat, I am reeling,” said Camille Paglia, the cultural critic. “That was the best political speech I have ever seen delivered by an American woman politician. Palin is as tough as nails.”

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:43 pm 95. tanstaafl:

For the record, in Barack’s speechifying before the fake Lincoln Memorial Thursday night, he said something about following bin Laden into his cave.

Big, brave, macho.

Well, Barack, bin Laden isn’t living in a cave, these days. He is living large among remnants of “the Taliban” he controls (plus the Arab coterie he has always controlled and all the disgruntled Islamists who have, in recent months, beat feet to Waziristan from Iraq…) He and his guys are also intimidating the hell out of “the tribes” they’ve infested.

Aug 31, 2008 - 4:49 pm 96. Mike:

Boris wrote:
“She is too conservative to excite independents (she wants creationism taught in science class and denies global warming)”

Gee, I’m an independent and she excites the hell out of me!

Actual Position 1: She wants children to have the freedom to debate darwinism against creationism. She doesn’t want it taught.

Actual Position 2: She denies *anthropogenic* global warming, as does everyone with any intelligence who can read a temperature over time graph. The earth has been warming for the last 14,000 years, dimwit. Ever heard of the Ice Age, or was that “redacted” from the Soviet text books?

Go back to Moskva, Boris. You’re out of your depths here in the Land of the Free.

Aug 31, 2008 - 5:00 pm 97. tanstaafl:

Whitehall

I wish the Palins well in this foul media cesspool circus going on in America.

Aug 31, 2008 - 5:03 pm 98. barrybarryquitecontrary.com:

Sweating Through Fog – Accurate and well said!

ed & mtraven – Here’s the bottom line for you mallet heads. Remember in Independence Day, with Will Smith, when the President took flight to defeat the aliens (read liberal socialists)? Well John McCain can still fly an attack bomber and Sarah “Barracuda” Palin will be manning the .50 cal on the back of the Hummer blasting you dirty bast**ds back to the pit of hell whence you came.

You know I’m right, and it scares the tofu right out of your arse!

Aug 31, 2008 - 5:08 pm 99. davod:

“Um, McCain has never held an executive position in government either.”

The Commanding Officer of the largest flying squadron in the US Navy.

Aug 31, 2008 - 5:16 pm 100. Mike:

Javelin wrote:
“LisaP,is she going to bite or cut them off? What a crude little person you are, a perfect female con. You go girl, iron my shirts!”

You can always tell when a far lefty has been around by the stench they leave behind.

Aug 31, 2008 - 5:21 pm 101. Gumbyblue:

The funny thing that no one has mentioned…

She’s the only one on the ticket (of the 4) who has commander-in-chief experience.

’nuff said.

Aug 31, 2008 - 5:40 pm 102. fred:

After the first debate there will be a new carcass to send to the taxidermist. The plaque will read “Joe Bloviator.”

As an NRA member I appreciate those kinds of trophies. I’d really love to see another taxidermist masterpiece: “Barrachus Obamicus, Pedus ascendit podex”

Aug 31, 2008 - 5:48 pm 103. mtraven:

barrybarrywhatever — I hope you are posting while drunk, because anybody who wrote stuff like that while sober is too stupid to be allowed to roam around loose.

I can see McCain/Palin’s appeal to the drunken moron demographic, which is not insignificant. But I have trouble seeing the connection between that demographic and Roger Kimball, who edits a magazine of lofty intellectual pretension. How sad he must be to deliver up his sprightly feuilltons to people whose frame of references is defined by crappy summer blockbuster movies.

Aug 31, 2008 - 7:19 pm 104. goy:

It’s a safe bet the unhinged media will be doing everything they can to demonstrate exactly why they’ve lost all credibility with the public.

Sarah Palin is the pinnacle of enlightened feminism. I can’t imagine a single self-professed feminist seeing this, however, because her regard for human life mocks the their identity politics and self-centered disdain for it.

I think I see at least one major aspect of what’s made her so wildly attractive (in a political way! the other way is obvious, duh. don’t want to hurt certain former Democratic candidates by going into that).

Too long to post here, but if you please…

Aug 31, 2008 - 7:36 pm 105. Nancy Reyes:

The personal attacks on the left wing blogs suggest the left is afraid.

If they were logical, they’d be attacking her record, not her obstetrical history…

Aug 31, 2008 - 8:02 pm 106. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: Funny Mr. ed

Um, McCain has never held an executive position in government either. — ed

Will someone talk horse-sense to Mr. ed?

The point I made was about Palin having more executive experience than Obama and Biden.

If she has more than McCain, that’s fine too. But it hardly detracts from the original point. But these ‘progressives’ just can’t seem to progress beyond their target fixation issues. In this case, the alleged ‘hail Mary pass’ concept.

So maybe ed is interested in having Palin run for the presidency? Interesting. I think that would generate even MORE enthusiasm for her. Especially from the women.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Careful what you wish for.]

Aug 31, 2008 - 8:19 pm 107. I eats me spinachk:

Palin has embodied Obama’s empty rhetoric. When he talks of change and the moonbat lefties swoon it can only be because they finally see a fellow traveller who they think has the goods to put one over on the rest of the voting public.

Clearly there is nothing he has accomplished in his entire life that justifies their enthusiasm. The sum of his creepy associations and joke lefty jobs like “community organizer” is, ironically, much of what the left’s excitement is predicated on … by necessity. How ironic that the black hole that is his resume is precisely why they are enthused and why they behave like a bunch of fascist thugs when an issue is made of it. The hard left are like cockroaches in the dark, they’re comfortable in that realm but shine a light on them and they scatter in a hundred directions.

Aug 31, 2008 - 8:34 pm 108. KD:

I am a conservative.

For eight years, I have been appalled by the Bush administration.

Only one conservative, in my opinion, sought the Presidency this year: Dr. Ron Paul.

Mr. McCain, in choosing Mrs. Palin as his Vice President, has shown poor judgement.

Mrs. Palin has no experience whatsoever in national office.

She is not even remotely prepared to act as President of the United States in the event of Mr. McCain’s inability, for whatever reason, to perform his duties as President, should he be elected.

Mr. McCain’s choice is, quite frankly, irresponsible.

Indeed, I am bewildered by Mr. Kimball’s opinion concerning Mr. McCain’s choice.

I expected more from the editor of The New Criterion.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:05 pm 109. Joshua:

mtraven – “How sad he must be to deliver up his sprightly feuilltons to people whose frame of references is defined by crappy summer blockbuster movies.”

The correct spelling is – feuilletons

As usual, liberal socialists like you are often poor students and have no sense of humor. I will give you credit for using a big, college word though. But I have to ask, by using such big words, are you compensating for something?

It’s interesting you couldn’t bring yourself to address me correctly: BarryBarryQuiteContrary. Your version: barrybarrywhatever does have a ring to it.

As a compassionate conservative, I’ll suggest you take your medication, cuddle up with a soft blanket and settle in for an ass whuppin’ of biblical proportion for your boys Obambi & JoeBlow. Nothing can save them now (not even the U.N.).

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:12 pm 110. Dark Helmet:

Tell me, does it bother any of you that none of these peole are fit to lead our nation?

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:17 pm 111. Judy, NYC:

it is not surprising, coming from the party that worships chicago pol barry obama as the messiah, that their argument against sarah palin began with trashing her downs syndrome child. they will likely eschew racism, their endlessly repeating loop of the word having reduced it to the mindless babble that it is. one never knows though with the false messiah campaign, a bottomless pit.

Aug 31, 2008 - 9:31 pm 112. newscaper:

The creationism charge is 3/4 bogus anyway — somewhere I read she is Catholic (which certainly jibes with the 5 kids) and the Catholic Church is decidedly *not* on the idiotic “young Earth created in 7 days” nonsense.

Aug 31, 2008 - 10:14 pm 113. Datou:

Mmm… I for one was utterly depressed about this election before Palin… now, dare I dream? 4 years of McCain and 8 more of Palin. The lefty heads exploding throughout the country will register on the Richter scale.

Sep 1, 2008 - 12:28 am 114. Kimcalaho:

1. I would rather vote for a Presidential Candidate who mentors a VP than vote for a Presidential Candidate who needs mentoring by a VP.

2. I can’t wait for the Biden-Palin debates. They’ll go down just like the Riggs-King tennis match and for those Hollywood movie types, “My Counsin Vinny” with Marisa Tomei. Remember how King beat Riggs and how Tomei laid out a Prosecutor who attempted to discredit her in that famous court room scene? King went on to become one of the most successful tennis players in the world and Tomei went on to win an Academy award for her above role. With Palin it will get her the Vice Presidency.

Go McCain-Palin!!!

Sep 1, 2008 - 1:15 am 115. FlyOver:

Actually, I thought she was a “frightening spectre” to the right. Perhaps we can agree that she is frightening to the corrupt in either party. Intelligent women won’t vote for her just because of her “plumbing” but they will give her qualifications a good hard look to see whether she is someone they can, in good conscience, vote for. So far, it’s looking pretty good.

Sep 1, 2008 - 4:53 am 116. moi61537:

I hope what you right about Gov Palin is true. While voting for McCain and excited he took the risk for our daughters, I still see the Obama machine rolling to victory. Obama, to me, is the candidate of the Chicago anarchists dressed up in rhetoric to not frighten away folks.

Sep 1, 2008 - 5:49 am 117. The Goddess:

The Palin image – will blow over – as has already begun to happen – hopefully if Biden does lose – some sleep it won’t be for too many nights.

I think Palin laughed as a cancer survivor is called a B*tch and a Cancer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKkydrUnBZE

What type of woman is she.

But as Christians we all should forgive – right??

Or should we be seriously questioning her ethics and her ability to lead?

We really don’t know enough about Palin.

Sep 1, 2008 - 5:49 am 118. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: The ‘Hail Mary’ Meme

Palin’s pick by McCain is a Hail Mary pass. — ed</blockquote

This is the third time I’ve seen this ‘argument’ in the last couple of days. I’m wondering, since the term is becoming popular amongst to ‘progressives a couple of thinks:

[1] Who’s promoting it amongst it to them? Because most of them are not smart enough to know the term in the first place.

[2] What kind of a ‘progressive’ is such a sexist as to be opposed to a woman as Vice President of the United States? I’ll wager dollars to donuts they wouldn’t be saying this if Hillary Clinton were on the Obama ticket for Vice President. Let alone if she were the candidate for President herself.

Their hypocrisy REEKS!

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Where there is no religion, hypocrisy becomes 'good taste'.]

Sep 1, 2008 - 7:08 am 119. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: KD….Another…..

Mrs. Palin has no experience whatsoever in national office. — KD

…hypocrite? Or a false flag?

KD claims to be a conservative. But I have my doubts. I’ve already encountered a number of liars claiming to be ‘conservatives’ or ‘independents leaning towards McCain’. My gut feeling, in reading their comments, is they’re liars.

As for the ‘no experience in national office’ argument, Ronald Reagen hadn’t had any such experience either…..

’nuff said.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. If KD is a Paulian, he’s not what I’d consider a ‘conservative’, he’s something far worse…..an isolationist with ’sour grapes’ syndrome…..

Sep 1, 2008 - 7:12 am 120. goy:

- … Ronald Reagen hadn’t had any such experience either…

Or Jimmy Carter.

Or Bill Clinton.

For that matter.

Oh wait – Bill shook JFK’s hand once, that’s right.

Sep 1, 2008 - 8:16 am 121. sonoffar:

“Don’t be fooled: the left is terrified of Sarah Palin” I agree whole hearteatedly with the author but I would like to add one more reason why they fear and despise her.
Sarah Palin is exactly what a Democrat should be. She is what they portray themselves to be.
Consider her from this article alone.
“She’s a breath of fresh air: a tough, attractive, pro-family, patriotic candidate who is as articulate as she is unbeholden to the beltway, business-as-usual pork-barrel machinery. A working woman who’s a proud wife and mother; a traditionalist in important matters who’s broken through all kinds of barriers; a reformer, a challenger of a corrupt good-old-boy establishment, a successful woman whose life is unapologetically grounded in religious belief; a lady who’s a leader.”
Those are all the attributes that the Democratic Party claim to represent but have woefully swept under the party platform in the name of the new and improved ‘Progressive Liberal Democratic Party’.
“She represents exactly the sort of change that Obama (and his party) invoked but never managed to articulate.”

Sep 1, 2008 - 8:22 am 122. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All, and especially PJM IT Department
RE: [OT] Rumor Control

There is a report in another thread that implies that a good number of the more vile trollish comments on these threads about Palin are emanating from one IP Address; 74.208.74.232. And that this IP Address is owned by the DNC.

I’m wondering if this report is accurate. The best way to prove/disprove the allegation would be for the IT people at PJM to do a bit of investigation and report their findings.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. If true, it could make thinks very interesting…..

Sep 1, 2008 - 8:34 am 123. TheRider:

74.208.74.232 reverses to “obamataxcut.com” which is a little “how much obama will cut your taxes” calculator. Its obviously some type of pro obama site. I would expect this from the obamatrons. After all the ends justifies the means. Where have we heard that before?

Sep 1, 2008 - 10:00 am 124. The Goddess:

It’s looking worst for the Reps…

Gustav is not the only storm – heading the GOP’s way.

BABY-GATE is also about to hit its shores –

What was McCain thinking !!

Is the old man senile ??
Is he still capable of making sound decisions ??

But he still likes his beautiful women !!

Sep 1, 2008 - 10:26 am 125. Chuck Pelto:

TO: The Goddess
RE: And….

BABY-GATE is also about to hit its shores – — The Goddess

….your point here is what?

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S…..

What IP Address are you using?
But he still likes his beautiful women !!

Sep 1, 2008 - 10:33 am 126. Ed Wallis:

To Chuck Pelto 8:34am,

Either I was not clear or you misunderstand what I wrote: I provided an IP Address; 74.208.74.232, and said were trollish posts traced back to this address, that address had a significant “owner.” I was in no way claiming that I know that many of these trollish posts com from the DNC.

All clear?

Sep 1, 2008 - 10:45 am 127. JimBob:

Now hold it right there partr’.
Palin may be brassy and bold. But if you think for a minute that when McShame keels over in the next 4 years, and he will; that Ms. High and Mighty is going to be able to corral all them mavericks, your sadly mistaken.
People goin’ to the ballot box ‘ul think twice about pickin’ a ticket with a dried-up saddle-faced varmit and a green horn who is so wet behind them ears of her’s that she probably thinks that foreign policy is a term where you have a neighborhood dinner event with people from out of town.

Sep 1, 2008 - 12:06 pm 128. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: [OT] Rumor Control — Part 2 (Disabuse)

Chalk that earlier rumor up to misconstruing information.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

Sep 1, 2008 - 12:53 pm 129. Bill Arrigoni:

Of course the republicans are saying this a great. If Obama picked a democrate from a small state and virtually no international background they would going wild.That my friends is the truth….Also,check the record,she was originally for the bridge to nowhere…….

Sep 1, 2008 - 2:31 pm 130. David:

This is not just about politics people. McCain picked Palin to Vice-President of the United States. McCain is 73 and has had cancer at least 3 times. He believes Palin is prepared to be President?

Palin attended Hawaii Pacific College in Honolulu, Hawaii, in 1982 for a semester and transferred in 1983 to North Idaho College. In 1987, Palin received a Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho. She has been Gov of Alaska for two years and before that a mayor of a very small town. This is the resume of someone deserving to be a heart beat away from the US presidency?

In contrast, Biden has a law degree and has been in the Senate for 35 years and is an expert on foreign policy – even his critics (and I have been one in print in the past) admit that. Obama graduated from Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review. He served in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. He has been in the Senate for 4 years.

Picking a VP is not all politics. When the Presidential candidate is 73 its also about the VP candidate’s intelligence, experience, and potential for governance, leadership, negotiating ability with other world leaders, and making very difficult decisions.

The choice of Palin is arguably the most irresponsible action by a major Presidential candidate in modern history – rivaling and probably exceeding McGovern’s initial choice of Eagleton.

America’s image and standing in the world is already at a low point. We face huge challenges from China, Russia, terrorist movements, climate change, sectors of our economy, and our educational system. Is Palin the person you want to lead us? Is a vote for Palin a vote against America’s future?

These are tough but fair questions. Many educated Republicans (I work with and know many) are shocked at this choice. They are deeply worried about her as President should something happen to John.

Sep 1, 2008 - 3:00 pm 131. Richard:

I think she’ll make a great VP

Sep 1, 2008 - 3:55 pm 132. ahem:

You can always tell when the Left is losing control of its bowels; it starts pounding the influential conservative sites with comments–as it is doing now. It’s like a gambler’s ‘tell’.

Ha.
Ha.
Ha.

Sep 1, 2008 - 6:06 pm 133. Danae:

I will take that bet. Palin. Hands down in a complete and total knockout. Biden is in over his head. Hard to imagine, but he’s in over his head. So too is Obama. The poor man, all that talk about hope and change…. and he picks someone who is not an iota about change as a Veep, negating an entire multimillion dollar campaign, and made himself into a liar. Along comes McCain, and what does he do, in a single instant rips up the entire Race and repaints it anew. The only Ticket about change no is McCain – Palin, it must be a bitter bitter moment indeed for Obama and Democrats as a whole.

Practice it now folks, President McCain and Vice President Palin. Because that’s exactly what is going to happen on Nov 2nd!

Sep 1, 2008 - 7:02 pm 134. kd:

Chuck Pelto,

Who is Ronald Reagen?

Sep 1, 2008 - 7:19 pm 135. Joshua (a different one):

JimBob: People goin’ to the ballot box ‘ul think twice about pickin’ a ticket with a dried-up saddle-faced varmit and a green horn who is so wet behind them ears of her’s that she probably thinks that foreign policy is a term where you have a neighborhood dinner event with people from out of town.

Well, it’s not as though voters will have much of a choice on that, aside from which one of them (the “dried-up saddle-faced varmit” or the “green horn [...] wet behind them ears”) is to be President and which one is to be Vice-President.

Sep 1, 2008 - 7:55 pm 136. nick:

fear? au contraire morons

its the best thing Mccain could have done

pick a incompetant woman,
who hides the truth,
who is a hypocrite,
and who uses her office for personal gain

Sep 1, 2008 - 11:20 pm 137. nick:

oh, and I forgot

a F****** stupid creationist

Sep 1, 2008 - 11:23 pm 138. John N. Frary:

Frederick the Great on the value of experience: “A mule who has carried a pack for ten campaigns under Prince Eugene will be no better tactician for it, and… many men grow old in an otherwise respectable profession without making any greater progress than this mule.”

The experience argument, whether applied to Obama or Palin, is not all that conclusive.
Both have more experience than Lincoln had when he was first elected.

For me the most pertinent comparison is this: Palin clearly rose to prominence as an opponent of a corrupt Repbulican establishement in Alaska, while Obama nestled comfortably in the Chicago political sewer without ever causing a problem.

Sep 2, 2008 - 3:08 am 139. Roger’s Rules » Talent vs. experience:

[...] Frary (who by the way is running for Congress in Maine) provided this thoughtful comment (# 138) on my post of a couple days ago about Sarah Palin: Frederick the Great on the value of experience: “A mule who has carried a pack for ten campaigns [...]

Sep 2, 2008 - 3:38 am 140. Jerry Hall:

I agree she is sharp and if you divorce her sister you better be prepared to look for a new job. Hmmmm sounds like a great candidate to me. I hope her unmarried teenage daughter has a nice pregnancy. Hey maybe Levi Johnston will now do the right and marry her for 15 minutes of fame….. Did Mccain do any background on her at all, me thinks not.
She is smart but very petty and not too observant as a parent. She makes us women look bad, and it looks like a knee jerk reaction to Obama not picking Hilary.

Sep 2, 2008 - 3:42 am 141. gaetano catelli:

this campaign was about Obama.

due to John McCain’s brilliant choice for VP, it’s now about Palin.

Obamaniacs are still at the “anger” stage on the Kubler-Ross grieving scale.

Sep 2, 2008 - 4:37 am 142. surf66:

boris……like many: you have underestimated womanhood and this special one in particular.
Sarah Palin has the potential to turn our present political system on its head. When Columbus sailed away; there was someone sweeping off the pier swearing he made no difference…..and missed the whole adventure!

Sep 2, 2008 - 8:39 am 143. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: That’s What I Admire About….

….nick the ___________ (fill in the blank).

a F****** stupid creationist — nick

He always likes to keep the discussions ‘classy’….for a ‘progressive’ Dimocrat, that is. The others would have spelled it out.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

Sep 2, 2008 - 8:41 am 144. nick:

I am hyperventilating with Joy

that the GOP VP pick

is incompetent,
is a liar,
is a hypocrite,
is corrupt,
is a drunk
is a creationist
wanted Alaska to secede.

Sep 2, 2008 - 9:50 am 145. nick:

I was wrong not a Drunk , hes the drunk

she was what GOP commentators call unmarried women who sleep around – a SLut.

Sep 2, 2008 - 10:08 am 146. gaetano catelli:

repeat: Obamaniacs are still at the “anger” stage on the Kubler-Ross grieving scale.

Sep 2, 2008 - 10:16 am 147. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: Slut?

she was what GOP commentators call unmarried women who sleep around – a SLut. — nick

I think nick is describing former Senator Edwards’ girl-friend here. The big difference, I suspect, is that the Governor married her man. And he’s more The Man for being with her today.

Where as ‘John’ is hiding in toilet stalls. And it’s not to coif his hair.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. I suspect nick was probably defending Edwards earlier this year. If not, I’d appreciate seeing the evidence…..

Sep 2, 2008 - 10:31 am 148. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: The Check List

that the GOP VP pick

is incompetent,
is a liar,
is a hypocrite,
is corrupt,
is a drunk
is a creationist
wanted Alaska to secede.
— nick

With the possible exception of ‘creationist’, which he has yet to prove….

….I suspect that the other qualifications are right up the typical Dimocrat alley.

RE: OD’d on Joy

I am hyperventilating with Joy — nick

Drug addiction will do that to some people.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. The shrillness of these posts by nick continually remind me of someone (1) on drugs and (2) desperate to brace their facade on ‘reality’.

Did I say, “On reality”? I should have said, “Against reality.”

Sep 2, 2008 - 10:37 am 149. Chuck Pelto:

TO: John N. Frary
RE: Lincoln’s Military Experience

Both have more experience than Lincoln had when he was first elected. — John N. Frary

Actually, Abraham Lincoln WAS, at one time in his early life, an officer of his state’s militia. And an abysmal disappointment at that.

RE: Experience of Obama vs. Palin

The experience argument, whether applied to Obama or Palin, is not all that conclusive. — John N. Frary

I disagree. But I probably have a different perspective on them than you.

RE: The Rise

For me the most pertinent comparison is this: Palin clearly rose to prominence as an opponent of a corrupt Repbulican establishement in Alaska, while Obama nestled comfortably in the Chicago political sewer without ever causing a problem. — John N. Frary

Therein IS an important compare and contrast aspect. And it makes me wonder who REALLY is pulling Obama’s strings. He comes across, to me, as not being particularly ‘bright’. Certainly not compared to so many others I KNOW exist in the Democratic Party. So why him?

The Democrats used to scoff at Ronald Reagan. And Reagan is several orders of magnitude more intelligent than Senator Obama.

As it doesn’t make sense, there must be some other hidden factors at play.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[If it looks like logic has nothing to do with it, there must be some missing information. -- CBPelto]

Sep 2, 2008 - 10:45 am 150. John N. Frary:

I’m puzzled by the omissions from Nick’s List. The necessary supplement:

The GOP VP pick,

was seen on the Grassy knoll in Dallas,
uses live kittens as bait,
tortures Moslems,
wears size 12 shoes,
has an even large carbon footprint,
secretly sacrifices small children to the God Mars by the light of the blood red moon,
shot Dangerous Dan McGrew,
caused the fall of the Roman Empire.

There. That should boost him from hyperventilation to euphoria.

Sep 2, 2008 - 12:51 pm 151. Chuck Pelto:

TO: John N. Frary
RE: You, Sir….

was seen on the Grassy knoll in Dallas,
uses live kittens as bait,
tortures Moslems,
wears size 12 shoes,
has an even large carbon footprint,
secretly sacrifices small children to the God Mars by the light of the blood red moon,
shot Dangerous Dan McGrew,
caused the fall of the Roman Empire.
— John N. Frary

…are positively lurid.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Where is Chtuhulu where we REALLY need em?]
P.S. Lovecraft….beware!

Sep 2, 2008 - 1:04 pm 152. nick:

of course you cant dispute the facts

here is some more

and she supports Bush torture of muslims
yes huge carbon footprint with airplane

Sep 2, 2008 - 8:10 pm 153. nick:

edwards is not the nominee you morons!

Sep 2, 2008 - 8:40 pm 154. nick:

Colorado GOP state Rep. Larry Liston has seamlessly joined the ranks of two fellow El Paso County Republicans, notably former Commissioner Betty Beedy, who called single mothers who date “sluts,” and former state Sen. MaryAnne Tebedo, who outraged people of color when she went on television and claimed their “culture” encourages sexual promiscuity for girls.

so is Palin girl black?

or are GOP mostly IDIOTS ?

since she looks white I think it is the latter .

Sep 2, 2008 - 8:47 pm 155. nick:

Reagan was a fucking moron!

Sep 2, 2008 - 8:48 pm 156. Brian H:

Just a fact edit: the brother-in-law was not fired; his boss was.

Sep 3, 2008 - 2:14 am 157. Roger’s Rules » The Kael Syndrome Returns: Why Democrats are in for a Big Surprise come November:

[...] race and criticizing the other side is a large part of what politics is all about. A few days ago, I quoted William Kristol, who observed in The Weekly Standard that what we will see in the next days and [...]

Sep 3, 2008 - 6:49 am 158. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: More nick Projection

Reagan was a fucking moron! — nick

If only ALL such ‘morons’ could defeat a nuclear armed opponent without firing a single shot.

Heh….

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Projection; Wishing upon others what you are yourself.]

Sep 3, 2008 - 7:24 am 159. DEGUELLO:

As an enthusiastic atheist,I am not at all bothered by Palin’s supposed creationism.To my knowledge creationism has never killed anyone.On the other hand Stalinism, Nazism,and other supposedly scientific statist superstitions have killed millions.The Obama enthusiasts and other unthinking liberals,continue to believe,despite a century of failure, that the state is a meliorative entity,that can solve all social problems.That belief,and not creationism,is the real threat to freedom and humanity.

Sep 3, 2008 - 8:52 am 160. DEGUELLO:

Nick:Some moron! He destroyed communism, built up the economy,and established the conservative movement in US! Stay away from the crack,it has evidently impaired your brain functions.

Sep 3, 2008 - 8:57 am 161. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: Roger Is Right!

There certainly is more depth to Sarah Palin than to Barack Obama. Indeed, this is boiling down to a battle between Obama and Palin, with Obama having a distinct disadvantage.

Witness this EXCELLENT Compare and Contrast between the weak Democratic nominee for President vs. the strong Republican nominee for Vice-President.

Enjoy,

Chuck(le)
[Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill]

Sep 3, 2008 - 9:51 am 162. Chuck Pelto:

TO: DEGUELLO
RE: Creationism

….I am not at all bothered by Palin’s supposed creationism.To my knowledge creationism has never killed anyone. — DEGUELLO

I’ve yet to see anyone prove Palin believes in ‘creationism’. Much less calls for it to be taught in public schools. However, it would be interesting to see all the various theories on how we got to where we are today taught for the purposes of compare and contrast and logic.

RE: nick

— DEGUELLO

Actually, I think his BRAIN is ‘cracked’. But he is fun to watch. It makes for an interesting study in desperation and dementia.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Psychoceramics - The Study of Crackpots]

Sep 3, 2008 - 10:22 am 163. Chuck Pelto:

ERRATA!!!!

Blahst!

That second citation should have read….

Stay away from the crack,it has evidently impaired your brain functions. — DEGUELLO

Misplaced a carrot.

Sorry about that.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[With seeing comes loss, and the presence of absence: My citation, gone. - Haiku Error Msg]

Sep 3, 2008 - 10:27 am 164. DEGUELLO:

Chuck: may I use that? That just about describes the democratic party,(as does the Churchill quote )Best Regards,

Sep 3, 2008 - 10:28 am 165. Chuck Pelto:

TO: DEGUELLO
RE: Use

may I use that? — DEGUELLO

If you’re referring to the definition of ‘psychoceramics’. Sure.

If you’re referring to the article, better be sure to give attribution and links. It’s old media and they might not like it if you publish it in whole without proper attribution and permission.

Also, you might want to copy it for your own reference purposes. This paper charges for access to articles that are over 30 days old.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson]

Sep 3, 2008 - 12:49 pm 166. John N. Frary:

As a long-time student of psychoceramcism I’m finding dear NICK an exceptionally interesting specimen. Never seen a computer screen exude mouth-froth before.

He even rose to the bait—rallying around torturing moslems and the size 16 EEEEE carbon foot-print.

Nothing about Dangerous Dan McGrew or the Roman Empire? He’s either doing the research or is treating a bloody nose. Excesses of passion does that sometimes.

Sep 3, 2008 - 1:27 pm 167. nick:

Then ask her!

but I know you are too much a coward to do so.

Sep 3, 2008 - 8:44 pm 168. nick:

“Teach both. You know, don’t be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important and it’s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both.”

she wants religion instruction in school -that is a creationist. and a mark of a stupid person.

Sep 3, 2008 - 8:46 pm 169. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: nick….

she wants religion instruction in school -that is a creationist. — nick

….the English Comprehension-challenged.

’nuff said.

Can anyone suggest a good dictionary for him?

That, or a drug-abuse program?

However, all to really effective such are of a Christian bent.

RE: Projection about ‘Stupidity’.

and a mark of a stupid person. — nick

Care to show me your Mensa membership ID number?

I’ll call you a ‘brother’.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[God made the Earth, and all therein, for Man.]

Sep 4, 2008 - 11:24 am 170. nick:

Mensa?

triple 9 moron

Sep 4, 2008 - 8:42 pm 171. Chuck Pelto:

TO: nick
RE: Sooo…

….As I suspected, reality, i.e., facts, have nothing to do with you.

Thanks for the proof of that. You’ll be seeing it again and again….

Regards,

Chuck(le)

Sep 6, 2008 - 11:29 am 172. Jon:

Nick; see also ‘moron’

In the words of the great one, Mark Levin;

“libs are fun when they aren’t in power”

My advice to my fellow TRUE americans on this site. Just listen to what liberals, and morons (although the difference is minimal) have to say, sit back and have a laugh (or a Chuck(le)) Then be comfortable in the fact that we are the politically educated, even though they are the “smarter” ones.

McCain/Palin ‘08 (finally a reagan conservative makes an appearance in the presidential campaign! Palin for prez in ‘12) Or Jindal, Steele, etc…..

Sep 7, 2008 - 12:43 pm 173. Jeff:

For a more compelling look at Sarah Palin, please take a look at this link below—

http://howinsaneisjohnmccain.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-scandals-complete-list.html

Sep 8, 2008 - 8:33 pm 174. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: Jeff

I wonder if he’s trying for a position on the WaPo.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. I guess, based on his repetition of the business about Alaskan ‘Troopergate’, he’s all for using law enforcement weaponry on children.

Well….

….actually having survived a ‘Prop-Blast’ initiation, I have to admit it’s something of a ‘rush’. Albeit I was up on French 75s at the time. Watched [now Major General] William Caldwell lose a tooth while pumping himself up during the ‘line-up’ to go before the reviewing panel. And he never even realized it, as far as I could tell.

However, I wouldn’t recommend it for a disobedient 10-year old. Even of the masculine persuasion. But some feminists might…..

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