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		<title>By: What Do You Mean, Terrorists Still Target U.S. After We Elected Obama? &#124; American Sentinel</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Do You Mean, Terrorists Still Target U.S. After We Elected Obama? &#124; American Sentinel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 04:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they didn&#8217;t hear that we elected this glorious &#8220;transformational figure&#8221; to be our new [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What Do You Mean, Terrorists Still Target U.S. After We Elected Obama? &#171; Start Thinking Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Do You Mean, Terrorists Still Target U.S. After We Elected Obama? &#171; Start Thinking Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 04:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they didn&#8217;t hear that we elected this glorious &#8220;transformational figure&#8221; to be our new [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Roger&#8217;s Rules &#187; Commander-in-chief vs. Nanny-in-chief, or two cheers for selfishness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger&#8217;s Rules &#187; Commander-in-chief vs. Nanny-in-chief, or two cheers for selfishness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jonathan K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Buddy et al  first point, the  sclerotic nature of present day american govt. almost guarantees no sharp or radical change, even of dems control congess and Pres. also Court is still in Repub. hands and any change is necessarily longer term. Note that it is still the Roberts Court.
 point 2
It is hard for McCain/Palin to cry socialism when Bush partially nationalizes the big banks.

point 3 
McCain claims 26 yrs political experience, yet cannot even organize a disciplined and coherent campaign against what was clearly the weakest opponent the dems could put up.

I was originally a Hillary supporter, i thought she was the best candidate of either party in terms of qualifications for the office. 

I briefly considered McCain until he picked Palin. That showed such poor judgement, considering his age and prior health . Obasma is not the messiah, buth neither is he evil incarnate Like McCain, he is an above average professional politican. Much of his stated philosophy will have to go overboard given our present state of affairs. 

Point four

I think the rightie bloggers should take a chill. McCain still has a fairly good chance to win. The polls are suspect this time, I do not think they reflect the true feelings of those polled, especially in PA, Ohio,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Buddy et al  first point, the  sclerotic nature of present day american govt. almost guarantees no sharp or radical change, even of dems control congess and Pres. also Court is still in Repub. hands and any change is necessarily longer term. Note that it is still the Roberts Court.<br />
 point 2<br />
It is hard for McCain/Palin to cry socialism when Bush partially nationalizes the big banks.</p>
<p>point 3<br />
McCain claims 26 yrs political experience, yet cannot even organize a disciplined and coherent campaign against what was clearly the weakest opponent the dems could put up.</p>
<p>I was originally a Hillary supporter, i thought she was the best candidate of either party in terms of qualifications for the office. </p>
<p>I briefly considered McCain until he picked Palin. That showed such poor judgement, considering his age and prior health . Obasma is not the messiah, buth neither is he evil incarnate Like McCain, he is an above average professional politican. Much of his stated philosophy will have to go overboard given our present state of affairs. </p>
<p>Point four</p>
<p>I think the rightie bloggers should take a chill. McCain still has a fairly good chance to win. The polls are suspect this time, I do not think they reflect the true feelings of those polled, especially in PA, Ohio,</p>
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		<title>By: Tomorrow, and Tomrrow and Tomorrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomorrow, and Tomrrow and Tomorrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, 0bamas is not winning the youth vote. McCain is. Any demographic that Liberals insist on herding people into is abandoning 0bamas in droves, no matter what they tell &lt;i&gt;national&lt;/i&gt; polls.

 Tell me, which of the following states did 0bamas win in Primary elections- New York, Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Texas, California. Answer, none. 0bamas claims to be doing well with the &quot;unmarried single woman&quot; vote. Oh, really? Well, anecdotal evidence on this thread says otherwise. Social Liberals, and I&#039;m only gonna say this once, are not attracted to 0bamas. they find him creepy. His no longer human. 0bamas is not attractive to women.

I voted for Hillary in Texas primary because I saw through the media infatuation with 0bamas, I knew it wasn&#039;t based on any 0bamamentum, and his campaign has been sputtering ever since February, even worse in March. 

Hillary voters know now that his people, ACORN stuffed the boxes, and stole the primary nomination process in the Spring. He was awarded delegates in the two states (Michigan and Florida) he withdrew from, and won no votes in, based on &quot;exit polls&quot;. At the DNC meeting held in May- IN FLORIDA. Democrats are going to send him a message on this one way media street that this election cannot be bought or stole. George Soros be damned!

I got news for you Phil, 0bamas will probably win New Jersey. thats it. So spare me the bona fides. 0bamas will not get to re-stage the sentimentalized sixties, and get to re-cast himself as romanticized saviour, just to, hopefully fill the whole in his soul (terms you might use) where a backbone should be.

If he&#039;s so intelligent, then he can run again after he&#039;s all grown up. Really, the best (and, really, only) good thing (so far) that will ever have happened to 0bamas will come WHEN HE LOSES.

Then he might, just might, be capable of learning the humility he feigns so non-convincingly.

And you have got to wonder what a has-been he&#039;s going to be when he loses a national election after so much money spent, not mention his &quot;home&quot; state. People of every political stripe there are fed up with the corruption.

Al Capone and Bugs Moran, not to mention Stracci and Stroger are so proud. Nothing has changed since they ruled the fiefdom. No reform has EVER taken place there, least of all from the bagman from Chicago. 

(Unless the first rule of socialism is that the exalted term  &quot;&lt;b&gt;Reform&lt;/b&gt;&quot; is reduced to mean &quot;&lt;b&gt;More Government&lt;/b&gt;.&quot; Trickle down permanent poverty from Senator Government himself.)

But the good news is that Al Capone and Bugs, and Stroger will all get to vota in this election. Stracci got deported I think, but there&#039;s always hope for change!

If &quot;green&quot; technology is going to work, it will only do so without government &quot;help&quot;. Oh, I&#039;m sorry, &lt;i&gt;&quot;reform&quot;&lt;/i&gt;. Just look at corn and ethanol subsidies. Do you think Harken, oh, I&#039;m sorry, the honorable Senator from Iowa Harken cares? I think not. He pocketed the money and paid off patrons.

In fact, any private enterprise that government touches is tainted, corrupted, perverted, and degenerate. You know it, I know it. History proves it. You just keep having hope, that&#039;s all. I don&#039;t.

for example, did Kandinsky get a government grant? Would his life or his art be &quot;better&quot; if he had? We don&#039;t even have to speculate on that. How about Mondrian? Arthur Dove? Francis Picabia? Frantisek Kupka? No? Do you know how many paintings Kandinsky made without government help? All of them. And all the above broke through and created abstract painting, independent of each other, in the same year 1911-1912, without government help.

Do you know the profound meaning of Andres Serranos &#039;Piss Christ? It means simply this- That this is what some people think of christianity, that it has been rationally and intellectually reduced to nothing more than a waste product that most liberals at least, think belongs in a toilet bowl. How sad. I&#039;ll pray for you.

If you seek succour in art, I suggest &#039;il Postino&#039;, one of the three greatest movies of the twentieth century. It will help you count the cost.

You think that a vote for 0bamas will absolve you of the sin of being white. thats a secular intrusion into a theological concept. And the two are not compatible.

Go ahead, vote for 0bamas, maybe it &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; absolve you, but rid yourself of this romanticized narrative of the sixties re-staged, re-cast with 0bamas as saviour. this and leftism is an Idolatry. Heck, I voted for Mondale, I am not ashamed. somebody had to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, 0bamas is not winning the youth vote. McCain is. Any demographic that Liberals insist on herding people into is abandoning 0bamas in droves, no matter what they tell <i>national</i> polls.</p>
<p> Tell me, which of the following states did 0bamas win in Primary elections- New York, Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Texas, California. Answer, none. 0bamas claims to be doing well with the &#8220;unmarried single woman&#8221; vote. Oh, really? Well, anecdotal evidence on this thread says otherwise. Social Liberals, and I&#8217;m only gonna say this once, are not attracted to 0bamas. they find him creepy. His no longer human. 0bamas is not attractive to women.</p>
<p>I voted for Hillary in Texas primary because I saw through the media infatuation with 0bamas, I knew it wasn&#8217;t based on any 0bamamentum, and his campaign has been sputtering ever since February, even worse in March. </p>
<p>Hillary voters know now that his people, ACORN stuffed the boxes, and stole the primary nomination process in the Spring. He was awarded delegates in the two states (Michigan and Florida) he withdrew from, and won no votes in, based on &#8220;exit polls&#8221;. At the DNC meeting held in May- IN FLORIDA. Democrats are going to send him a message on this one way media street that this election cannot be bought or stole. George Soros be damned!</p>
<p>I got news for you Phil, 0bamas will probably win New Jersey. thats it. So spare me the bona fides. 0bamas will not get to re-stage the sentimentalized sixties, and get to re-cast himself as romanticized saviour, just to, hopefully fill the whole in his soul (terms you might use) where a backbone should be.</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s so intelligent, then he can run again after he&#8217;s all grown up. Really, the best (and, really, only) good thing (so far) that will ever have happened to 0bamas will come WHEN HE LOSES.</p>
<p>Then he might, just might, be capable of learning the humility he feigns so non-convincingly.</p>
<p>And you have got to wonder what a has-been he&#8217;s going to be when he loses a national election after so much money spent, not mention his &#8220;home&#8221; state. People of every political stripe there are fed up with the corruption.</p>
<p>Al Capone and Bugs Moran, not to mention Stracci and Stroger are so proud. Nothing has changed since they ruled the fiefdom. No reform has EVER taken place there, least of all from the bagman from Chicago. </p>
<p>(Unless the first rule of socialism is that the exalted term  &#8220;<b>Reform</b>&#8221; is reduced to mean &#8220;<b>More Government</b>.&#8221; Trickle down permanent poverty from Senator Government himself.)</p>
<p>But the good news is that Al Capone and Bugs, and Stroger will all get to vota in this election. Stracci got deported I think, but there&#8217;s always hope for change!</p>
<p>If &#8220;green&#8221; technology is going to work, it will only do so without government &#8220;help&#8221;. Oh, I&#8217;m sorry, <i>&#8220;reform&#8221;</i>. Just look at corn and ethanol subsidies. Do you think Harken, oh, I&#8217;m sorry, the honorable Senator from Iowa Harken cares? I think not. He pocketed the money and paid off patrons.</p>
<p>In fact, any private enterprise that government touches is tainted, corrupted, perverted, and degenerate. You know it, I know it. History proves it. You just keep having hope, that&#8217;s all. I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>for example, did Kandinsky get a government grant? Would his life or his art be &#8220;better&#8221; if he had? We don&#8217;t even have to speculate on that. How about Mondrian? Arthur Dove? Francis Picabia? Frantisek Kupka? No? Do you know how many paintings Kandinsky made without government help? All of them. And all the above broke through and created abstract painting, independent of each other, in the same year 1911-1912, without government help.</p>
<p>Do you know the profound meaning of Andres Serranos &#8216;Piss Christ? It means simply this- That this is what some people think of christianity, that it has been rationally and intellectually reduced to nothing more than a waste product that most liberals at least, think belongs in a toilet bowl. How sad. I&#8217;ll pray for you.</p>
<p>If you seek succour in art, I suggest &#8216;il Postino&#8217;, one of the three greatest movies of the twentieth century. It will help you count the cost.</p>
<p>You think that a vote for 0bamas will absolve you of the sin of being white. thats a secular intrusion into a theological concept. And the two are not compatible.</p>
<p>Go ahead, vote for 0bamas, maybe it <i>will</i> absolve you, but rid yourself of this romanticized narrative of the sixties re-staged, re-cast with 0bamas as saviour. this and leftism is an Idolatry. Heck, I voted for Mondale, I am not ashamed. somebody had to!</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>johnathan k, alright, i guess we have a standoff --i too was a Romney man, and for the same reasons. Two points, tho --one, i don&#039;t think McCain is AS likely to get us into another war --not a hunch, but for a complex of real reasons having to do with human nature on both sides, and two, i do think you are minimizing what can happen with a tripartite Dem supermajority deliberately executing a 100 days blitz early next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnathan k, alright, i guess we have a standoff &#8211;i too was a Romney man, and for the same reasons. Two points, tho &#8211;one, i don&#8217;t think McCain is AS likely to get us into another war &#8211;not a hunch, but for a complex of real reasons having to do with human nature on both sides, and two, i do think you are minimizing what can happen with a tripartite Dem supermajority deliberately executing a 100 days blitz early next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why vote for Obama? 

1. 
He will advance the green/alternative fuel revolution faster than McCain and understands the urgency of this matter.

Face it, the green revolution is our country&#039;s great challenge AND economic opportunity for the 21st century.  What&#039;s that? You believe global warming/climate change is a natural cycle?  OK, suppose that was true. What disadvantages would arise from greater efficiency and less dependence on foreign oil? I argue none.

On a side note... We are currently importing 10% of our oil from Hugo Chavez.  But yet you chastise Obama for stating he would have discussions with all leaders of the world? Laughable really... We are paying terrorists to fuel our jets, homes, vehicles.  You and me.  

2. 
He is intelligent and has shown a level-headed, calm demeanor throughout the course of the campaign. A quality that helped him make the right decision regarding the deployment of troops to Iraq.  Wait until your children and grandchildren are sent to die for an avoidable war.  

3. 
He has inspired the younger generation. Obama might be able to stir about a change whereby it&#039;s &quot;cool&quot; to be intelligent, to give back to your country, and community. Call me a dreamer...


Those are some of my reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why vote for Obama? </p>
<p>1.<br />
He will advance the green/alternative fuel revolution faster than McCain and understands the urgency of this matter.</p>
<p>Face it, the green revolution is our country&#8217;s great challenge AND economic opportunity for the 21st century.  What&#8217;s that? You believe global warming/climate change is a natural cycle?  OK, suppose that was true. What disadvantages would arise from greater efficiency and less dependence on foreign oil? I argue none.</p>
<p>On a side note&#8230; We are currently importing 10% of our oil from Hugo Chavez.  But yet you chastise Obama for stating he would have discussions with all leaders of the world? Laughable really&#8230; We are paying terrorists to fuel our jets, homes, vehicles.  You and me.  </p>
<p>2.<br />
He is intelligent and has shown a level-headed, calm demeanor throughout the course of the campaign. A quality that helped him make the right decision regarding the deployment of troops to Iraq.  Wait until your children and grandchildren are sent to die for an avoidable war.  </p>
<p>3.<br />
He has inspired the younger generation. Obama might be able to stir about a change whereby it&#8217;s &#8220;cool&#8221; to be intelligent, to give back to your country, and community. Call me a dreamer&#8230;</p>
<p>Those are some of my reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Belmont Club &#187; Operation Grand Slam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belmont Club &#187; Operation Grand Slam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you expect me to talk?&#8221; He answers, &#8220;no Mr. Bond. I expect you to die.&#8221;  Roger Kimball exclaims, &#8220;is Obama a &#8216;transformational figure&#8217;? You don’t know the half of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you expect me to talk?&#8221; He answers, &#8220;no Mr. Bond. I expect you to die.&#8221;  Roger Kimball exclaims, &#8220;is Obama a &#8216;transformational figure&#8217;? You don’t know the half of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jonathan k</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathan k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Buddy et al   read medved&#039;s colum, he is too dire, the american system is a lot slower even with full democratic control. there are a lot of interests competing in DC not necessarily on the same train. 

 also, the socialism argument loses a lot of its force with Bush, Paulson  and company essentially nationalizing  the banks.

much of what I read on the net is the same type of hysterical chatter that the left told us would happen if Bush was reelected. 

also if what you fear is obama style socialism, why McCain for the GOP. 
he was never a small government libertarian member of gingrich (now cantor-ryan) wing of the party. other thana country  club republican view that the rich know  best, what does he bring to the table.  Rommney had the brains, financial savy, and executive experience to be a leader in this new world financial enviornment. 

neither candidate represents the best for the future of this country. Based on any review of the essential qualities needed for the 21st century, Richardson for the Dems and Rommney for the GOP are head and shoulders above the two hack politicians we have now.  

All of the above said, the overriding need right now is to terminate ASAP the foolish and unnecessary, as well as unpaid for war of choice in IRaq. McCain isnot only unwilling to do this, but seems to be looking for more wars of choice i.e Iran.Whatever Obama&#039;s failings as a candidate are, he has been consistent in his opposition to this foolish venture.

This country needsto rebuild itself and keep its  powder dry. The right should relax and drop the Spenglarian gloom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Buddy et al   read medved&#8217;s colum, he is too dire, the american system is a lot slower even with full democratic control. there are a lot of interests competing in DC not necessarily on the same train. </p>
<p> also, the socialism argument loses a lot of its force with Bush, Paulson  and company essentially nationalizing  the banks.</p>
<p>much of what I read on the net is the same type of hysterical chatter that the left told us would happen if Bush was reelected. </p>
<p>also if what you fear is obama style socialism, why McCain for the GOP.<br />
he was never a small government libertarian member of gingrich (now cantor-ryan) wing of the party. other thana country  club republican view that the rich know  best, what does he bring to the table.  Rommney had the brains, financial savy, and executive experience to be a leader in this new world financial enviornment. </p>
<p>neither candidate represents the best for the future of this country. Based on any review of the essential qualities needed for the 21st century, Richardson for the Dems and Rommney for the GOP are head and shoulders above the two hack politicians we have now.  </p>
<p>All of the above said, the overriding need right now is to terminate ASAP the foolish and unnecessary, as well as unpaid for war of choice in IRaq. McCain isnot only unwilling to do this, but seems to be looking for more wars of choice i.e Iran.Whatever Obama&#8217;s failings as a candidate are, he has been consistent in his opposition to this foolish venture.</p>
<p>This country needsto rebuild itself and keep its  powder dry. The right should relax and drop the Spenglarian gloom.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amity Schlaes (in new bestseller &quot;The Forgotten Man&quot;) --as well as a group of economists at UCLA --say that the New Deal probably prolonged the Depression as much as seven years. She says the main culprit was taxation --a top rate that went from 20% to 70% under New Deal. She observes that the fantastical amount of centralization and increase in gov&#039;t power during the time may&#039;ve diverted the attention of FDR&#039;s Brain Trust from practicality toward ideology. She says that many, many small business owners just gave up and quit under the new taxes that kept coming at them. The &#039;forgotten man&#039; in her book title is not the one in four unemployed (he is the &#039;remembered&#039; man) but the three of four whose tax burden rose by three plus orders, in order to pay for the extension of the pain by which government was able to greatly grow itself. 

Reminds of Ronald Reagan&#039;s &quot;The government can&#039;t solve our problem, the government IS our problem.&quot; 

I&#039;m sure he didn&#039;t have Fannie specifically in mind at the time, but he would surely recognize the genesis of today&#039;s calamity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amity Schlaes (in new bestseller &#8220;The Forgotten Man&#8221;) &#8211;as well as a group of economists at UCLA &#8211;say that the New Deal probably prolonged the Depression as much as seven years. She says the main culprit was taxation &#8211;a top rate that went from 20% to 70% under New Deal. She observes that the fantastical amount of centralization and increase in gov&#8217;t power during the time may&#8217;ve diverted the attention of FDR&#8217;s Brain Trust from practicality toward ideology. She says that many, many small business owners just gave up and quit under the new taxes that kept coming at them. The &#8216;forgotten man&#8217; in her book title is not the one in four unemployed (he is the &#8216;remembered&#8217; man) but the three of four whose tax burden rose by three plus orders, in order to pay for the extension of the pain by which government was able to greatly grow itself. </p>
<p>Reminds of Ronald Reagan&#8217;s &#8220;The government can&#8217;t solve our problem, the government IS our problem.&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure he didn&#8217;t have Fannie specifically in mind at the time, but he would surely recognize the genesis of today&#8217;s calamity.</p>
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