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	<title>Comments on: Forget About the &#8220;Bradley Effect.&#8221; It&#8217;s the Berkeley Effect that Matters</title>
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		<title>By: G. Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I wrote the other post and I used the label you used.  George Bush is a Republican but not even remotely a conservative.  The same for John McCain.  To be a Republican hardly makes one a conservative at this point.  

I give Powell some small credit for being less gung-ho on the war but it takes more then that to be a conservative.  We weren’t just discussing his foreign policy in this thread.  And the fact that he didn’t resign over the war at the time says a lot about him.  Powell is easily the most overrated public figure the US has seen in some time.   I’ll add that Powell endorsed Obama in large part because of the color of his skin.  The rest was just the typical blather about the messiah being a transformational figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I wrote the other post and I used the label you used.  George Bush is a Republican but not even remotely a conservative.  The same for John McCain.  To be a Republican hardly makes one a conservative at this point.  </p>
<p>I give Powell some small credit for being less gung-ho on the war but it takes more then that to be a conservative.  We weren’t just discussing his foreign policy in this thread.  And the fact that he didn’t resign over the war at the time says a lot about him.  Powell is easily the most overrated public figure the US has seen in some time.   I’ll add that Powell endorsed Obama in large part because of the color of his skin.  The rest was just the typical blather about the messiah being a transformational figure.</p>
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		<title>By: mtraven</title>
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		<dc:creator>mtraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 05:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@19 -- You can use whatever label you like for Colin Powell, the fact is that he is a Republican, who served in Republican administrations, donated to the McCain campaign, was rumored to be on short list for McCain&#039;s VP slot -- but he&#039;s thrown his support to Obama.  You don&#039;t get to his position by backing losers.

I am not Powell&#039;s biggest fan by any means, but he did try to argue Bush out of invading Iraq, which makes him a more genuine conservative than most of the Bush administration, in my book.  Conservatives are supposed to be prudent about the use of government power, not go ginning up wars for vague pseudoidealistic crusades. Didn&#039;t you make that very point in &lt;a href=&quot;http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/10/25/who-do-you-want-answering-the-phone-at-300-am/#comment-5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another thread&lt;/a&gt;?  Was that a different G. Clark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@19 &#8212; You can use whatever label you like for Colin Powell, the fact is that he is a Republican, who served in Republican administrations, donated to the McCain campaign, was rumored to be on short list for McCain&#8217;s VP slot &#8212; but he&#8217;s thrown his support to Obama.  You don&#8217;t get to his position by backing losers.</p>
<p>I am not Powell&#8217;s biggest fan by any means, but he did try to argue Bush out of invading Iraq, which makes him a more genuine conservative than most of the Bush administration, in my book.  Conservatives are supposed to be prudent about the use of government power, not go ginning up wars for vague pseudoidealistic crusades. Didn&#8217;t you make that very point in <a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/10/25/who-do-you-want-answering-the-phone-at-300-am/#comment-5" rel="nofollow">another thread</a>?  Was that a different G. Clark?</p>
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		<title>By: G. Clark</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/10/21/forget-about-thebradley-effect-its-the-berkeley-effect-that-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-6816</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@17 mtraven: lol!  There is nothing like tedious and smug leftists for a good laugh.  Colin Powell a conservative?  Geez, I’m surprised you didn’t include Christopher Hitchens, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@17 mtraven: lol!  There is nothing like tedious and smug leftists for a good laugh.  Colin Powell a conservative?  Geez, I’m surprised you didn’t include Christopher Hitchens, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Forbes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15--TR: For some, what is obvious is not apparent. Claiming to give 95% income tax relief, as Obama does, when 40% pay no income taxes, is, well, what? A fraud? A lie? A joke? Are you really this dumb? (Your comment speaks for itself.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15&#8211;TR: For some, what is obvious is not apparent. Claiming to give 95% income tax relief, as Obama does, when 40% pay no income taxes, is, well, what? A fraud? A lie? A joke? Are you really this dumb? (Your comment speaks for itself.)</p>
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		<title>By: mtraven</title>
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		<dc:creator>mtraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain&#039;s Intrade price has slipped to 13.6 since I last posted.  You people have nothing to offer, no arguments, no policies, no vision: just an endless stream of insinuations and slurs.  Nobody is buying it.  You trot out stale arguments from past decades that don&#039;t resonate with today&#039;s voters -- like calling Obama a socialist because he proposes a tax plan that&#039;s mildly more progressive than what we have now.  Nobody is buying it.  Intelligent conservatives are moving over to Obama in droves: Christopher Buckley, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/convictions/archive/2008/03/23/endorsing-obama.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Doug Kmiec&lt;/a&gt;, Colin Powell, Ken Adelman...the list just keeps growing.  

Oh well.  I suppose at some level you realize you have lost and you are just preparing to unleash your endless stream of crap on the Obama administration, just as you did to the Clinton administration.  Look how well that worked out.  You damaged him, for sure, even got him impeached, but even with all that going on his time in office looks about a thousand times better than that of his successor.  You think people can&#039;t remember that far back?  

My prediction is that Obama will move the crazies (that&#039;s most of you people) to even greater heights of slander than Clinton, but it will get less traction in the media and the public.  People are waking up and getting serious -- nothing like a looming economic crisis to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain&#8217;s Intrade price has slipped to 13.6 since I last posted.  You people have nothing to offer, no arguments, no policies, no vision: just an endless stream of insinuations and slurs.  Nobody is buying it.  You trot out stale arguments from past decades that don&#8217;t resonate with today&#8217;s voters &#8212; like calling Obama a socialist because he proposes a tax plan that&#8217;s mildly more progressive than what we have now.  Nobody is buying it.  Intelligent conservatives are moving over to Obama in droves: Christopher Buckley, <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/convictions/archive/2008/03/23/endorsing-obama.aspx" rel="nofollow">Doug Kmiec</a>, Colin Powell, Ken Adelman&#8230;the list just keeps growing.  </p>
<p>Oh well.  I suppose at some level you realize you have lost and you are just preparing to unleash your endless stream of crap on the Obama administration, just as you did to the Clinton administration.  Look how well that worked out.  You damaged him, for sure, even got him impeached, but even with all that going on his time in office looks about a thousand times better than that of his successor.  You think people can&#8217;t remember that far back?  </p>
<p>My prediction is that Obama will move the crazies (that&#8217;s most of you people) to even greater heights of slander than Clinton, but it will get less traction in the media and the public.  People are waking up and getting serious &#8212; nothing like a looming economic crisis to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: JMH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mtraven:

&lt;i&gt;Intrade is listing McCain contracts at around 15.5 today. That means if you are convinced of his victory, you have an easy mechanism for getting six times your money.&lt;/i&gt;

Still a stupid bet. If McCain wins, I&#039;ll be happy to earn money through old-fashioned hard work rather than gambling.  But if Obama wins, I&#039;m going to need every last penny to survive the economic disaster his &quot;well documented&quot; tax plan, and other policies, will create.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mtraven:</p>
<p><i>Intrade is listing McCain contracts at around 15.5 today. That means if you are convinced of his victory, you have an easy mechanism for getting six times your money.</i></p>
<p>Still a stupid bet. If McCain wins, I&#8217;ll be happy to earn money through old-fashioned hard work rather than gambling.  But if Obama wins, I&#8217;m going to need every last penny to survive the economic disaster his &#8220;well documented&#8221; tax plan, and other policies, will create.</p>
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		<title>By: TR</title>
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		<dc:creator>TR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;. . . especially  when 40 percent of those who file pay no taxes to begin with . . .&quot;

Um, Roger, have you ever heard of payroll taxes? Gas taxes? You know, the kind that fund Social Security, Medicare, roads, etc.? Are you really this dumb? (Well, you do blog for pajamasmedia.com, so that answers itself.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;. . . especially  when 40 percent of those who file pay no taxes to begin with . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, Roger, have you ever heard of payroll taxes? Gas taxes? You know, the kind that fund Social Security, Medicare, roads, etc.? Are you really this dumb? (Well, you do blog for pajamasmedia.com, so that answers itself.)</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Six hundred million dollars! Repeat that and ask yourself; &quot;Where is my 15 pt. lead?&quot; That is precisely what the Obama campaign is asking. Obama is no longer the slim, well-spoken man in the finely cut suit. The time is late. We demand to see the wizard, and they cannot produce. I will not vote to shackle my small children with a nanny state. I will not vote for a lack of cultural confidence. I will not vote for a weakened, apologetic military. I will not vote for the wrong &quot;First blackman to be president&quot;. I will not vote for Obama. McCain/Palin 08&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Six hundred million dollars! Repeat that and ask yourself; &#8220;Where is my 15 pt. lead?&#8221; That is precisely what the Obama campaign is asking. Obama is no longer the slim, well-spoken man in the finely cut suit. The time is late. We demand to see the wizard, and they cannot produce. I will not vote to shackle my small children with a nanny state. I will not vote for a lack of cultural confidence. I will not vote for a weakened, apologetic military. I will not vote for the wrong &#8220;First blackman to be president&#8221;. I will not vote for Obama. McCain/Palin 08&#8242;.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>e-mail correction</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>e-mail correction</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Roger: 

All of the flights of fancy are on the Republican side this year. You can&#039;t keep repackaging the same failed fairy tale, especially in these times, and selling it to the little guys, whose votes you need but whom you wouldn&#039;t want to sit next to on the subway. Even they figure it out every 8 years or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Roger: </p>
<p>All of the flights of fancy are on the Republican side this year. You can&#8217;t keep repackaging the same failed fairy tale, especially in these times, and selling it to the little guys, whose votes you need but whom you wouldn&#8217;t want to sit next to on the subway. Even they figure it out every 8 years or so.</p>
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