293 Comments

1. kathy:

What we need now is some clever legal talent to show how deliberately sabotaging the United States economy counts as Treason, a high Crime, or at least a Misdemeanor. Any takers?

Let’s see: who’s PO’d enough + has the guts & the brains for it…
Mark R. Levin? Ann Coulter?

Mar 5, 2009 - 9:02 am 2. Terry Quinn:

Spot on, as usual. Sadly, too many of us are self-consoling with “this, too shall pass.” “Wait ’til 2010, 2012, etc”

Don’t count on it. The Democrats and Leftists (synonyms)learned from the Reagan & Gingrich revolutions. They’ll do all they need to preclude recurrence: ACORN, tamping down conservative talk radio, appointment of fed judges without any care for the Constitution, hate speech codes, etc.

Many will be paid to vote & producers will be outnumbered.
Meanwhile, foreign rivals will be emboldened, and our friends/allies will disheartened.

Maybe we are entering a Dark Age. I haven’t read Albert Jay Nock. Any parallels?

Mar 5, 2009 - 10:15 am 3. Staring In Disbelief:

I think you have suffered from a common misperception: that Obama has to be EITHER a foolish incompetent OR a Marxist Leninist. I submit to you that he is both, and in fact SO ARE ALL “TRUE BELIEVER” MARXIST-LENINISTS. Because their foundational theories are all CRAP, and have been proven so innumerable times throughout recorded history, the only way they can maintain their beliefs is through a complete lack of rational, intelligent thought. Now, it is important to distinguish True Believers (i.e. MORONS) from cynical “FALSE BELIEVERS” only using the levers of Marxist rule to achieve what is truly important to them – POWER. Think Lenin: True believer Moron and Stalin: False Believer Power Addict. In the case of our President I believe we have a True Believer Moron (much like the hapless Jimmy Carter). There will be times when we will all be tempted to think “Wow, only an Evil Genius could have brought this about.” but we would be wrong to do so. Never underestimate the power of sheer stupidity on an individual or mass basis. It can accomplish things by accident that look premeditated, and we are prone to think that because humans would rather blame a deterministic evil intent for a catastrophe rather than a tragic coincidence of stupid, self-destructive actions.

Mar 5, 2009 - 10:31 am 4. Pajamas Media » Obama’s Policies: Incompetent or Malevolent?:

[...] the entire story here [...]

Mar 5, 2009 - 11:45 am 5. SCOTT:

I’ll chime in for Andrew Napolitano or Kevin R Guzman; both are definitely PO’d enough. As a team, they’d be virtually unstoppable.

Mar 5, 2009 - 11:52 am 6. ricpic:

No, it’s not both. It’s malevolence plain and simple. He ENJOYS spreading misery. But soon there will be people, tens of thousands of them, living under bridges. And there WILL be revenge. Take everything from people and there will be some of them, enough, who will risk everything to take everything, EVERYTHING, from you, ZERO!

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:02 pm 7. SCOTT:

Sorry, make that Kevin R.Guzman. Also honorable mention the Butler Shaffer.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:08 pm 8. Scott:

I think a lot of people are beginning to think this way. It seems to me that Obama is intentionally working to destroy the productive class in America. He will destroy a lot of wealth, and take most of the rest of it through taxes. This will be redistributed to “the poor”, who will forever vote Socialist in gratitude.

The “green” scam is going to make energy hugely expensive, resulting in much higher prices for everything. The greens are already talking about huge carbon taxes on air travel, which will destroy the ability of ordinary people to travel.

Here in California, we have new laws that will punish any city or county that dares to build anything designated as “sprawl”, which means single family homes. We are all supposed to move into out little box apartments next to train stations. Imported food will become vastly more expensive, and we will see a drop in variety and supply.

Think about what the greens actually want for us: no nuclear energy, no coal energy, no dams (kills fish). We’re supposed to be dependent on “wind and solar”. I read the other day that to produce the energy of ONE coal plant it would take 60,000 acres of windmills – assuming the wind blows. Solar? tens of thousands of solar panels in the desert, which I’m sure the enviros will just love. In short, they don’t want us to have anymore energy; they want us to do without, go back to the 17th century, and live “locally and sustainably”.

Intentional wealth destruction, outlawing cheap forms of energy for unproven “green” energy, carbon taxes on everything that uses power. All this is being done by Obama, and it’s being done right in front of us, right now.

Something is going to have go give. When it does, it ain’t gonna be pretty.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:10 pm 9. Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg:

No! No!

Pay no attention to your disappearing life savings and the collapsing economy, America! Rush Limbaugh! Rush Limbaugh! Look at him! He’s saying something!

What? You say the Dow is down 300 more points today? Well, what about about Michael Steele? Let’s talk about him for a while, because republicans control nothing and democrats only control the white house & both houses of congress!

And then there’s Ann Coulter! Isn’t she awful?!?

Thank God America has the democratic party to keep us focused on ‘real’ issues… Whew!

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:12 pm 10. Delia:

“Spender in Chief”

*pauses for breath*

LMAOOOOOOOOO!

Oh it’s deliberate alright and our ‘Spender’ is backed up by a lot of deliberates right along side him.

The era of personal ’sock it to ya’ dichotomy anchored by power wielded with much malevolence and rudimentary ideological comeuppance is at our door.

Class warfare has found its eager master puppet who would be KING.

The ‘BIG LIE’ is in progress.

Be sure what side you’re on and ready yourself.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:16 pm 11. Christopher Smith:

It’s not deliberate. He’s just an idioit.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:17 pm 12. rvastar:

Incompetence, malevolence, or both?

That question was answered before the election.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:18 pm 13. WJ:

You would answer your own question just by looking at his long-term past associations. Rev Wright, his marxist/socialistic mentor in Hawaii, ACORN, Terrorist Ayers, initially running on part of the Socialist party in Chicago.

How willingly blind would you need to be to see the connection?

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:21 pm 14. Mongoose:

Dow 6,614.19 -261.65 (-3.81%)
S&P 500 683.26 -29.61 (-4.15%)
Nasdaq 1,307.08 -46.66 (-3.45%)
10y bond 2.83% -0.04 (-1.39%)

I hear it is a good time to buy…seriously, he is trying to destroy the wealth of this nation. He is after the middle class.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:24 pm 15. Keith W. Brown:

Yes, Obama is a Leninist. All you had to do was to follow what he has said for the past few years. I guess his next act will be to start a young Pioneer’s program for American’s youth as well as to nationalize all of Ameican business. They we can all look forward to the Democrat Party state & get down to working on the local government collecive.

The man is simply dangerous. The phrase “useful idiots” comes to mind when thinking of all of the millions who voted for Obama.

We lived for 3 years in a Communist nation & know what hell Socialism is. It is too bad that America seems to want it while all of Eastern Europe & Russia have rejected it. A sublime irony.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:25 pm 16. Rob:

Whether Obama is or is not actually a Manchurian candidate is almost an irrelevant question at this point, because the policies he is enacting all have the consequence of weakening the US (such as huge debts, destroying the life savings of millions of Americans, weakening defense, toadying up to our enemies, etc.).

So, either Obama is a complete moron or a Manchurian candidate; I guess time will tell. Either way, our country seems to have made a dire mistake in electing him.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:25 pm 17. Moogie:

Finally! Someone saying exactly what I have been thinking. I’ve been wondering if we’ve been watching a bunch of bumbling, or some carefully manipulated and implemented planning on Obama (and his cronies) parts.

Not that I ever had any doubts about him: radical, not liberal, communist, not socialist, leftist, not Democrat.

Impeach Obama!

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:28 pm 18. garrett:

Unfortunately, only the House (? or is it the Senate, can’t remember)can bring those charges. Good luck with that, they are even worse. The best bet is to start some recall petitions in several critical states. Maybe Pensylvannia, for start? No matter how you look at it, we are in for a long hard fall in the next two years (at minimum).

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:32 pm 19. Steve:

I have revised my long term plans to include working until death. My savings won’t be there, social security won’t be there, I only hope and pray my job will still be there.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:33 pm 20. Steve P.:

It would be a lot easier to take you wingnuts seriously if you were able to form a cogent argument without screaming Socialism/Marxism/Leninism every time a Democrat does anything. Where were you when Bush was signing billion-dollar no-bid contracts for his contractor buddies? Where were you when Bush was signing the multi-billion bank bailout during his last days in office? You were silent, of course. Thanks for the hypocrisy.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:34 pm 21. sherlock:

MSM Delenda est.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:34 pm 22. Paul M Hupf:

Whether Leninist or Marxist, the meaning is the same. The President is a Leninist/Marxist. The “common good” is the objective. Who determines the “common good”? The state, of course! What if you as an individual disagree? Such disagreements are contrary to the “common good”; they are subversive, hence subject to prosecution (after arrest, of course). Consider Russia under Lenin and Stalin and the purges of the 1930s. Consider Germany after the Nazi party won a majority of the seats in the Reichstag in 1932. The Reichstag voted that Hitler could legislate by decree thus voting itself out of existence.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:34 pm 23. Harold:

I do not think this is a conspiracy. I think it is fact; that Obama is deliberately doing his best to put the entire population on the government milk-teat. Once we all know the joys of a great suck, it will be very difficult, if not impossible, to give it up.

When every liberal, left-wing, and even some right-wing conservatives says how “clever” Obama is, I don’t think they mean it in this way. But I do. He knows exactly what he is doing. He is not inept, or crazy. He is a statist idealogue.

I, for one, have no sympathy for anyone who is now “sorry” they voted for Obama, or for those who, like Chris Matthews, or David Brooks, were ostensibly blinded by The One’s supposed charming mental accuities. They were not blinded. They chose NOT TO SEE.

And now it is too late. For all of us.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:35 pm 24. JED:

The exact question is:who is this guy that came out of nowhere from a shady background, with obfuscated records and almost zero accomplishments to the POTUS and the check book of the national treasury? He sure made a lot of monetary promises to his gathered constituancy and is paying big to someone, not me. He is sure ripping through the changes and running the rubberstamping legislature with the greatest of ease. Throwing “isms” at him doesn’t work and our highly valued greatest diliberating body, congress, has a hard time getting in a word edgewise. His politics are not new; they are the same old Machivellian tricks for which the constitution and three branch government were designed to protect us. If congress wants a “Truth Committee”, I would like to know Obama’s real agenda and not the agenda which he seems to be selling for our common good.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:39 pm 25. fred:

I think it’s mostly ignorance and incompetence with some malevolence thrown in. It will do them in big time in the next two elections. I think they know that and I agree with Dick Morris that Obonga knows it too, which is why he and Pelosi are going to frantically try to get as much done in the next two years as they can.

Pelosi is not worried about her seat, because she’s from a deeply Marxist district. All of the major Democratic Party leaders are not afraid of reprisal from voters, because they come from liberal-Left districts that have been that way for decades and are not going to change. But the vast majority in their party will pay a price for it, and deservedly so. Anyway, these people will keep their seats in Congress while they see their party swept from power. What they hope for by 2012 is that enough of them will remain that would stalemate the Republicans from rolling back too much of Obonga’s “hope and change.” I think that’s the strategy.

It would not surprise me if the Democrats end up being out of power or influence as a serious opposition for decades to come after this debacle.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:42 pm 26. Tcobb:

What we need now is some clever legal talent to show how deliberately sabotaging the United States economy counts as Treason, a high Crime, or at least a Misdemeanor. Any takers?

You might want to start out with 18 USC Section 371 (General Conspiracy Statute) which provides that:
If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense
against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any
agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of
such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy,
each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than
five years, or both.
If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object
of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such
conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for
such misdemeanor.

Note that: (1) The crime consists of the agreement for a corrupt purpose. The fact that the “conspiracy” never pulled off the crime is immaterial, and (2) the overt act requirement is essentially meaningless. Even a meeting to discuss the details of the plot is sufficient under case law.

I’m sure there are federal laws somewhere that deal with government officials abusing their authority to willfully cause economic damage to someone under their authority.

To butcher the line from the old X-Files show: “The Crime is Out There.”

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:42 pm 27. Saltherring:

Two weeks ago I came to the conclusion that Obama secretly desires to bring America to her economic knees. No rational individual could propose and approve the legislation he has (and will continue to) and expect such measures to succeed. He knows exactly what he is doing, and intends to accomplish his goals, step by step…..for the following reason.

Obama is not an American, he is a globalist, intent on bringing on a one-world, fascist plutocracy….with himself (Plutobama) as fuhrer. But to do so, he must first deflate and dismantle the world’s only superpower…..but that will be easy, as that nation’s people elected him to be their president.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:44 pm 28. SCOTT:

…but I digress,the words of an old mentor: ” the only thing Marxism(Leninism) reduced anything to were millions of people to poverty and terror”. First comes the poverty, then comes the terror, then come the millions in the governments baby carriage.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:47 pm 29. ronnor:

This is planned. As Stalin pointed out, “you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.” First you ruin it to make the People desperate, then lead them to socialist salvation as soon as you get rid of the oppressors and political criminals. This isn’t a new idea, its been done in various ways by every would be dictator. To have people lose confidence in the greatest system the world has ever seen you have to have a huge crisis. Up until now we’ve always had a President who loved the country and what it stood for, we don’t have that now with either Mr. or Mrs. Obama, read what they’ve said, listen on YouTube when they said it, Obama wants to change the very system that makes us great.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:47 pm 30. Bent Notes » Blog Archive » He’s wrecking it on purpose:

[...] Roger Kimball is convinced that TCM is this kind of figure.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:49 pm 31. Ozzie:

“”"What we need now is some clever legal talent to show how deliberately sabotaging the United States economy counts as Treason, a high Crime, or at least a Misdemeanor. Any takers?”"”

Irrelevant. The traitorous Democrats would have to do it, and they care not a whit for the country or the people. Republicans were too weak to even get Clinton, and he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Our government is broken beyond repair. They realize there is no justice for them now, how else could they be so brazen in their violations : cash in the freezer, defaming troops in combat, not paying taxes, all the illegal foreign money ect ect. It’s like a big city fire with no firefighters now. It will have to run out of fuel before it stops on it’s own.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:50 pm 32. johngaltlives:

Want an answer-Go straight to the Manhattan offices of George Soros-this whole thing has been planned for months by Soros, Peter Lewis, and all the rest of the greedy wealthy COMMUNISTS(ANY coincidence Lewis company is called PROGRESSIVE insurance?). Obama Nasty the Piglosi or Hiary Greed dont have the combined Iq of a kangaroo rat, and this agenda has moved far too fast. Even FDRS new deal didnt move this fast. There had to be pre-planning, just like this phony attack on Rush Limbaugh is nothing more than attempt by the Soros clan to distract the public from there atempts to destroy american freedom. I say americans, we need to hang Soros and his crowd for treason. Soros is why this is happening. Soros ranks right with Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose as traitors to America.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:52 pm 33. Jean Gogh:

This buffoon must not be allowed a 2nd term.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:55 pm 34. MikeD:

Every day Obama looks worse and worse. He is not just a disaster, he is an ignorant clown and his removal from office must somehow be achieved. Impeachment would only raise the spectre of Biden and Pelosi. My word, what an improvement that would be! The country has achieved what I always considered to be impossible; we have institutionalized failure, right along with incompetence and malevolence. The incredible stupidity of the average American voter has been fully illuminated. The American political system just spent two years sifting through the entire population of failed egomaniacal lawyers and has selected the very worst. What an accomplishment. In one fell swoop the worst fears of the founding fathers have been realized. This is going to get very, very ugly before it is all sorted out.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:55 pm 35. always right:

Incompetence, malevolence, or both?

Does it matter that much?

We are just as screwed.

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:58 pm 36. Fool Or Villain? — The New Clarion:

[...] Roger Kimball asks the question of the hour: Is Obama incompetent or malevolent? Or to put it another way, is he a fool or a villain? Or both? [...]

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:10 pm 37. Everett R Littlefield:

I am absolutely terrified of what is going on! But how the hell do we turn it around? No Big Name media type is going to say a word! The idiots all love him and CANNOT SEE past the persona he projects. How many of them are going to denigrate, bad mouth, or do any other negative thing against him? None of them, that is who! Impeachment for Treason, as in all the above mentioned fiascoes, would be a good start but it WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!! We are completely and totally screwed!!

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:12 pm 38. Ron Mitchell:

It’s difficult to argue Roger’s second option of intentional malevolence isn’t the one which best explains the Obama administration without sounding like a paranoid conspiracy freak. However, we must ask ourselves this question: If Obama really were a Manchurian-type candidate hell-bent on turning America into a Marxist-Leninist state, wouldn’t he be doing pretty much what he is? A slobbering idiot couldn’t accomplish what he has in barely a month. Goodness, even Lenin had to fight a four-year civil war before consolidating power in Russia.
During the election campaign I talked with many conservative friends and relatives who mused out loud about Obama’s murky provenance and whether he might be just such a Manchurian candidate. But in the final analysis we arrived at the it-can’t-happen-here conclusion. Now, I’m wondering. It’s like watching a not very slo-mo train wreck. Jonah Goldberg’s history of Liberal Fascism is beginning to read like an instructive history book than the Obama administration’s blueprint for America.
This is becoming a very depressing business, psychologically as well as economically.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:14 pm 39. Harold:

The similar comments of a prominent New York-based market commentator are available here: http://www.mister-integrity.blogspot.com/

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:17 pm 40. rvastar:

“Democracy is indispensable to socialism.”

“The goal of socialism is communism.”

“The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.”

“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

“A lie told often enough becomes truth.”

“The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.”

“There are no morals in politics; there is only expedience. A scoundrel may be of use to us just because he is a scoundrel.”

“To rely upon conviction, devotion, and other excellent spiritual qualities; that is not to be taken seriously in politics.”

– Vladimir Lenin

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:19 pm 41. The Historian:

REGARDING IRAN, IT MAY BE BOTH:
FOOLISH TALK BY THE PRESIDENT
Is Obama just plain naive?

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/03/foolish-talk-indicates-foolish-mind.html

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:28 pm 42. Войска ПВО:

Roger, I would have said President Training Pants was just plain stupid and out of his depth, as you state, but the “directorblue” link put his administration’s machinations in perspective. He is a child of Chicago politics, a machine hack who only wants to foster government dependence among his/their constituency. I dislike saying this, but he is only malicious to that extent. I do not believe that there is some “vast left-wing conspiracy” save for the political patronage angle.

That said, I absolutely despise Obama; I cannot bear to watch him speak, reel in disgust over the adulation of his mindless, sycophantic coterie, and actually long for the days of William J. Clinton..

..hell, the golden days of the Hapless Peanut Farmer from Plains are starting to look good about now.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:29 pm 43. Mike2:

20. Steve P.:

Hate to break the news to you but Bush ain’t there any more and it was a Democrat controlled Congress that voted for the bailout bills at the time. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi lined up behind it right away. No, it’s now all Obama’s. He now owns the failing economy, the stock market, the housing default rate, the inflation rate, the crime rate, the body bags from the “illegal war” which he won’t pull out from, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, North Korea, Russia, Hamas, Hezbollah, Osama bin Laden, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chaves, and Kim Jong-il.

Obama, Reid, Pelosi – miserable failures.
————————————
Who is John Galt?

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:30 pm 44. Yael:

I think it’s more malevolence than incompetence. I can’t imagine considering someone incompetent when they have proven themselves so very competent … at destroying our country. It’s only been a few weeks and already America is unrecognizable, a shadow of her former self. But face it, dictatorships have a hard time taking hold in prosperous times and places. My question is, how long do we have to wait after deciding if this is intentional or not, to start talking about what we’re going to do about it.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:31 pm 45. JFM:

If you think that running the economy ionto the ground is the most Barak Hussein Obama can do, think it again: after just 36 days at the helm he has managed to have people talk of secession. A United Sates split into four or six entities would be no longer be an obstacle for China… or the jihadists.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:31 pm 46. Войска ПВО:

Jean Gogh writes:

“This buffoon must not be allowed a 2nd term.”

..he should not have been allowed a first term, Jean.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:31 pm 47. TOhio:

How do we stop Obama right now? This is the question. There has to be some way to do it.

Does anyone know how?

We shouldn’t have to wait until 2010 to get rid of the Democratic majority in the Congress.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:33 pm 48. Jack:

A million true Americans massed on the Mall in DC this summer would be a good start to ending this madness.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:40 pm 49. jerryofva:

First Putin pleaded with Obama not to ruin the United States with a Socialist program and now the Chinese are worried as well. When former Communist countries are concerned that we are going down that road we should all be concerned.

Just remember Socialism is the least successful form of Fascism. All other Fascist states can provide a decent standard of living in trade for the loss of your freedom. Socialism leads to mass poverty and death.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:41 pm 50. JMH:

What we need now is some clever legal talent to show how deliberately sabotaging the United States economy counts as Treason, a high Crime, or at least a Misdemeanor. Any takers?

What we need now is a congress not controlled by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. What we need now is to turn Democrats out of power in Congress. Until we stop electing these lying kleptocrats we can’t stop the damage. 2010 is our first chance to get one of the levers out of the Democrat’s hands. There will be a lot of damage between now and then, but we damn well better make use of that opportunity. If Democrats still controll congress after 2010, we are in very deep stuff.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:45 pm 51. brooke:

If we find that clever legal talent to start impeachment proceedings, I will give every penny I can afford to the legal fund. Lets hope there are some brave Americans who’ll take up the cause. I also think that the “impeachment” buzz should start catching fire within the blogaspheres. This man is not an empty suit, he has a deliberate and well thought out plan, and all the help he needs to accomplish it.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:54 pm 52. Self-hating Boomer:

Roger, if you’ve ever seen the Kos Kiddies in action (and several seem to like to hang out here), you’ll realize that it’s a thin line between stupidity and malevolence. The two are not mutually exclusive, in fact they tend to go together. Only a true fool wouldn’t understand that this is going to result in the eating of the seed corn of society, and will insure that their grand plans of “change” can’t be supported.

The comfortable radicals are going to learn a lesson in economics. This stuff that they’re used to buying in stores with money that just appears in their bank accounts requires industry and agriculture to make. They’re going to find out too late just how dependent on capitalism they always were, when the likes of Ayers aren’t going to be able to get anyone to trade any number their useless dollars for arugula.

Dude, it takes farmers, and farms, and agrochemicals, and tractors, and diesel, and lotsa other stuff to make your arugula. Read “I pencil” sometime.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:00 pm 53. Yael:

Speaking of malevolence, readers might be interested to learn:

On Thursday Sept 15, 2008 at roughly 11 AM The Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous draw down of money market accounts in the USA to the tune of $550 Billion dollars in a matter of an hour or two. Money was being removed electronically.

The Treasury tried to help, opened their window and pumped in $105 Billion but quickly realized they could not stem the tide. We were having an electronic run on the banks. So they decided to closed down the accounts.

Had they not closed down the accounts they estimated that by 2 PM that afternoon. Within 3 hours. $5.5 Trillion would have been withdrawn and the entire economy of the United States would have collapsed, and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.

http://www.capitalismgonewild.com/2009/02/electronic-run-on-banks-550-billion.html

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:00 pm 54. uburoisc:

There was an old slogan among the most radical of the old Bolsheviks, “The worse it is, the better.” Lenin definately believed this (and demonstrated it during the 1891-2 famine in Russia by refusing to help the starving peasants), and I’m beginning to see this attitute among many of the phony radicals here who are secretly enjoying the ride to the ground. But when that beast is loose, a big baby like Obama will be quickly devoured by the more pathological climbers up the greasy pole, and then the stupid Americans who pretended that W was the great evil will finally see, up close and with definable features, what a true tyrant looks like, and, more importantly, how arbitrary power really behaves.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:00 pm 55. Paul:

Read “The Ropespinner Conspiracy” by Michael M. Thomas, 1987. The premise is that the Soviets put a mole into a major university business program. All he had to do was to teach his students, who mostly ended up as prominent CEO’s and business leaders, to concentrate on short-term profit at the expense of long-term planning, thus wrecking the economy. In the conclusion, the author pointed out that although the work was fiction, he could not point to any evidence that the plot was not, in fact, actually happening.

While I don’t think that Obama himself is a mole, you have to look at his teachers, mentors, and supporters. Some rather suspicious things happened during his run for office. There was one news report, which I’ve heard again since but no follow-up on, to the effect that the current financial crisis was triggered by a very large, very fast run on certain financial companies. Perhaps by George Soros?

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:04 pm 56. Tcobb:

Ron Mitchell writes:
If Obama really were a Manchurian-type candidate hell-bent on turning America into a Marxist-Leninist state, wouldn’t he be doing pretty much what he is?

Sir–you made good points, but—does it really matter WHY he’s doing it? No disrespect is meant but in a sense I think you’re falling into the trap of current “progressive” thinking in which the only thing that counts is the motivation behind it. For example, Hitler killing millions for “racial reasons” is evil. Stalin killing millions to bring in the communist utopia, is, if not good, somehow understandable to the people on the Left.

I don’t really give a damn about Obama’s true motivations, I only care about WHAT he is doing. The WHY of it is immaterial.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:04 pm 57. Moogie:

Steve P: Are you completely blind? Is there absolutely no getting through to you on ANY level? Are you losing your retirement like the rest of us?

I, for one, shouted “NO!” to Bush when he signed the first bailout. But he didn’t listen. You are right: he produced plenty of spending bills; and our Democratic congress happily passed those spending bills.

However, that kind of spending looks like pocket change compared to what Obama’s programs will end up costing.

Do you not see how he is insulting our allies, coddling our enemies, securing the failure of free enterprise? You absolute refusal to just look at the facts, objectively, are alarming in the extreme.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:10 pm 58. Paul:

Steve P.:

It would be a lot easier to take you wingnuts seriously if you were able to form a cogent argument without screaming Socialism/Marxism/Leninism every time a Democrat does anything. Where were you when Bush was signing billion-dollar no-bid contracts for his contractor buddies? ….</blockquote

Steve, grow up; study history; and stop blaming President Bush for everything. Socialism is, in fact, a genuine political/economic philosophy, as are its children fascism and Marxism, and are actively followed by the modern liberal movement. I refer you to “Modern Fascism: The Threat to the Judeo-Christian Worldview” by Gene Edward Veith (1993)and “Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning” by Jonah Goldberg (2008). Both books, written completely independently as far as I know, come to the same conclusions: that modern liberals – and the modern Democratic party – derive their philosophy directly from the same schools of thought that drove Hitler and Mussolini. Obama and his teachers, including Ayers and Sharpton, follow these schools of philosophy so we may legitimately call him a fascist. (I’d say fascist, not a Marxist – there are technical differences).

As for “Bush’s contracts”, go and study the government procurement mechanisms. If there’s only one company capable of doing a job, then they will get the job. And golly gee – a Texan oilman knows people at Halliburton. What is the world coming to.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:13 pm 59. BMoon:

He could be a totally incompetent novice. He could be a malevolent megalomaniac with seeting hatred towrds his own country. there is a third option to consider – he may be the Anti-Christ. (Rev 6:2 – “And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.”)

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:13 pm 60. John:

This is George Soros’ Democratic Socialist Party. Soros has bragged that he has helped to bring about regime change in at least five countries. We are no. six. He has spent millions on this.
If you read about Sol Alinsky( Hillary’s mentor), you will see their plan. Look up Shadow Party and their agenda. Our next battle will be here.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:14 pm 61. ABPierce:

During the campaign, Obama was “visibly tethered” to his Blackberry. He also received counsel to be (as a black man) calm, cool and dignified – he portrayed “calmness and deliberation” during the campaign, to show stability during crisis. There is credible evidence (though no proof) that Ayers wrote his book. How can such a literate man have no trail of papers and documents – writers with this type of talent are compelled to write, like an artist must paint. Yes, he fumbles with basic terms related to the economy and to the military. He just doesn’t know this stuff. I also believe that, in a quiet way, he is receiving counsel what to do, and has an underlying delight that “it” is working so well. The market is not a “tracking poll in politics.” It’s a good question: What is going on?

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:15 pm 62. Freddie Funky:

I posted most of this before, but I would like to add after reading this article: this article leaves out his motive. I argue he is driving the market down to benefit from any pop up during the next election cycles. Remember Obama is an opportunist, and his public views adapt to what suits him at the time. By pushing the market down now ( and blaming Bush) he gets easy comparisons for 2010 and 2012. The next election cycles are his motive !

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-low-can-the-market-go/
Comment #29 from Freddie Funky

1) evil masterplan 2) unwitting tool, or 3)incompetence. I go back and forth between them all.

If Obama has planned to lower the market. He would be doing exactly as he is. The plan would be to dump the market in the 1st 6 months or so of his term of office, and blaming bush. This would make any 2010 turnaround ( for mid term elections) look by comparison better than 2009.
Obama is a politician, he knows when the elections are.. He knows he needs an uptrend for 2010 and more importantly 2012 elections. the lower he can drive the market now while blaming bush… the better.

2) unwitting tool. If Obama isn’t really in the driver seat. Is it possible that Soros or some other major investment block, is feeding Obama financial advice that is destructive ( while secretly shorting the market themselves). I don’t think it would be buffet, as he has taken a few lumps. It could be Soros or some other investment group further behind the scenes.

3) Incompetent: After running such a great campaign, I have a hard time believeing he is incompetent. He might not know much about economics, but his advisors do. I think this is the least likely.

So, My assertion is that 1) is the most likely case. The market is going down as planned to give him a chance to get upticks for 2010 and 2012 election cycles. The major media covers him by asserting all is Bush’s fault. “Cmon Obama is only in the office for weeks.” willfully ignoring that markets move on future expectations, not past results.

Conclusion: Since washington will now control, banks, mortgages, heavy industry, etc. We need to use the election cycles as our investment guide. Hide out or short in 2009. Bet on a 3Q and 4Q 2010 peak.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:18 pm 63. David Rogers:

We’re shocked that “Green” initiatives turn out to be “Red” inside?

They’re called “Watermelons” for a reason, my friends.

http://www.samizdata.net/mt/93uhdy736.cgi?entry_id=9750

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-socialism

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:32 pm 64. Flipside:

Excellent analysis. Think about it. Obama will say something publicly and his actions are the exact opposite. The press certainly doesn’t call him on anything. This all about a Democrat power grab so they can keep themselves in office for the next 50 years. On one hand Obambi pleads for the Casino Union’s support to get elected then trashes businesses and their conventions in Vegas.
Way to help these workers Obama. The contradiction, Liberals love jobs, hate companies and individuals who create them. Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Chucky Schumer, Carvel, Begalagosi, Emanuel, Axelramrod…they are pulling the wool over the country’s eyes. Never waste a good crisis, right? Tank the market, keep the victimized populace dependent, to save their houses, refinance their mortgages, car payments, food, credit cards, college, healthcare…just sickening. The White House is blowing various smoke screens with the media to chase RushL, Wall Street, the “man”, mean, white bogymen, all the while continue their socialist power grab. They only have limited time to do so, they have to seize control now…2010 is around the corner, if they don’t change the rules, implement their socialist plans and the country is still in the tank then they lose their magical 60 vote Senate rubber stamp. 60 is the key. I could care less about the Congress, if you can’t get to 60, then no deal. That’s why Bush couldn’t implement reform int eh mortgage industry, Dodd bocked it and Bush couldn’t get the 60 votes. This could get very ugly. Read the article in Forbes that claims the US insolvent. http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/04/global-recession-insolvent-opinions-columnists-roubini-economy.html The numbers sure says so. Once the middle class and upper class revolts, watch out. I look forward to the revolting class take over universities, public buildings, streets, cities, disrupt government, traffic, just like the code pinkers, ACLU, Eviro anarchists. Payback will be a biatch.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:33 pm 65. Blackwell:

Guys, guys:

–there won’t be a million people in the mall because working Americans don’t get on busses to wave signs and demonstrate-they have jobs to do, kids to support and mortagages (their own and now that of others) to pay. Non-working Americans are looking for a job.

–this talk of impeachment is just silly: Obama got elected for lots of reasons and many of those are very painfully laid at the door of the GOP that had its snout deep in the public trough for 12 years. Obama still has close to 60% approval ratings and stupid as many of his domestic policies are, they are to be expected from a liberal democrat with no private sector experience. He’s George McGovern in 2009. He thinks the government makes wealth. But its hard to lambaste Obama with any credibility after Bush maxed out our credit card while he was Prez and appointed the heads of the FDIC and SEC who were asleep for 8 years.

–Don’t be too outraged: The GOP let this happen; everyone knows it. Obama will indeed make it worse, but he’s only been in office for about 40 days. That 60% that supports him is going to need more time to shift back; at least till Chris Matthews’ leg stops tingling;

–be glad Obama is not as liberal as Pelosi;

–Be glad that former GOP speaker Dennis Hastert who presided over the House as all fell apart, has a federal pension and entitled to lifetime health benefits: screwing up the world’s richest country was quite a chore.

–In the meantime, welcome people who shift back–even Maureen Dowd seems disillusioned, and that’s a good thing. Obama was having too many flower petals thrown at his feet for an elected official in the US.

HOPE that Obama realizes he needs to change. He’s not stupid and he might–I hope–surprise us still.
Build for 2012.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:36 pm 66. eburchelli:

50 JMH: “What we need now is a congress not controlled by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. What we need now is to turn Democrats out of power in Congress. Until we stop electing these lying kleptocrats we can’t stop the damage. 2010 is our first chance to get one of the levers out of the Democrat’s hands. There will be a lot of damage between now and then, but we damn well better make use of that opportunity. If Democrats still controll congress after 2010, we are in very deep stuff.”

What we need now are some conservative leaders in Congress. They are few and far between, being mostly of the RINO variety.

Until true conservatives have a couple of spokespersons (other than Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck), the Dems rule. They have the power of the hour. The president with his commie sidekicke and the majority in congress.

Plus the MSM, who gives them all the push they need to have their agenda stuffed into millions of ears and eyes, every minute of every day.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:46 pm 67. Jeff Perren:

There are more alternatives than the author cites. The most likely is that Obama is a committed Progressive. He is following that philosophy in all essentials. His intentions and motives are really secondary to the ideas he has accepted and is putting into practice.

The results, Progressive fantasies aside, are what you see.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:49 pm 68. Steve P.:

TOhio says: “How do we stop Obama right now? This is the question. There has to be some way to do it.We shouldn’t have to wait until 2010 to get rid of the Democratic majority in the Congress.”

What are you suggesting? Armed revolt? Good luck with that. You’re going to have to wait a lot, lot longer than 2010 to get rid of the Democratic majority.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:49 pm 69. karlstro:

Obama’s true colors of inexperience and disdain for open dialog certainly show the other half that did not vote for him how bad he really is for this great country. I truely believe that he does not care about the pain and suffering his Party is doing to working folks. I’m angry, I lost 18 years of 401K investments, probably my job here shortly, and they sit in Congress thumbing their fingers at the middle class. Totally insane!

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:56 pm 70. Rand Simberg:

I think that we can invoke Clark’s Law (no, not Clarke’s Third Law, from which it was derived).

“Sufficiently advanced cluelessness/incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.”

Mar 5, 2009 - 3:00 pm 71. ked5:

Obama may be a bumbler, but he is a malevolent one. His goal is to destroy the US economy. His goal is class warfare. His goal is partisamship. His goal is to weaken national security. It is much easier to destroy a divided populace than one united by a common enemy – him.

Mar 5, 2009 - 3:09 pm 72. SAF:

He is neither incompetent or malevolent. He is executing the plan he thinks will make America great. He is doing everything he promised in the campaign:

1. Higher taxes
2. More pollution controls
3. CO2 limits
4. Income redistribution
5. Talk to our enemies

He really believes this will fix the USA.

Smart people make mistakes and perhaps the smarter they are the more they can fowl things up.

Obama is doing what he believes in to the core, believes it will lift America. Neither stupid or malevolent.

Just fancy accelerated wrong as opposed to plain wrong.

Mar 5, 2009 - 3:17 pm 73. PAR:

Face it the Teleprompter President is just a front man for George Soros and his gang. They try to convince us Obama is so intelligent but he is really just another talking head. He and his wife hate the United States for all of the injustices imposed upon his people. Soros wants power and would like nothing better than to bring the world to its knees so they can step in and save the day. As a child Soros believed he was God. Apparently he still does. Of course by the time he gets what he wants we will be broke, hopefully we will have time to learn to speak Chinese.

Nothing short of the people of this country taking to the streets in protest will stop them.

Mar 5, 2009 - 3:23 pm 74. jeanie coates:

President Obama is destroying American but rest assured that he is not alone. Congress wants the economy to fall because it is not hurting them. They are the Elite and they are shielded from the pain the rest of us are enduring. Not Democrats, not Republicans, every last elected official in office. A group of us are trying to get the word out to every working class citizen in the country that starting March 14, 2009, everyone should meet at their local town or city hall at 11 am and bring their homemade signs telling Washington we have had enough. We will do this every Saturday until we get the response we want, or we take other action. Let the local media know. Don’t think “someone else will do this for me.” It’s up to each and EVERY one of us to take back the power we are given under the Constitution. Read the Declaration of Independance, it will give you some empowerment. Come on all American citizens, let’s take back our country and demand the government get out of our private lives and our pockets. If you have any questions, e-mail me or call 575-318-6333. See ya Saturday!

Mar 5, 2009 - 3:34 pm 75. fear Obama:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
What we need now is some clever legal talent to show how deliberately sabotaging the United States economy counts as Treason.

Good read.

But we will have to wait two years-
104 more weeks of this Shiite.

Too many washed out democrat talking heads in congress and the senate that would never vote for his censure or removal- (quoting RUSH L)

If we survive 104 more weeks maybe we can wash out a few cabbage heads from Washington and then Prs. Hopenchange will get job scared and do something really stupid.

For the life of me I can’t imagine what else that could be?

Mar 5, 2009 - 3:35 pm 76. Notan Idjit:

Steve P.
“Where were you when Bush was signing the multi-billion bank bailout during his last days in office? You were silent, of course. Thanks for the hypocrisy.”

*We* were adamantly opposed. *You* are the hypocrite with your lies or selective memory

Mar 5, 2009 - 3:42 pm 77. Air2air:

Brooke:
“If we find that clever legal talent to start impeachment proceedings, I will give every penny I can afford to the legal fund.”

An inspired thought. Wow, the OJ trial would be a sliver to that one. Imagine the furor of the MSM and the other commies.

Mar 5, 2009 - 3:52 pm 78. BC:

Please, you guys are whining like spoiled brats 5 minutes into a 2 hr car ride. Obama is dealing with the consequences of 8 years of gross incompetence in government and unbridled, moronic corruption and greed in the corporate/financial world. There is nobody currently on the conservative/Republican side of things that would have a prayer of fixing this mess whereas Obama, by the looks of things so far, has a bit more than just a prayer…..

Mar 5, 2009 - 3:56 pm 79. Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer:

Roger, as to the question of whether they understand what they’re doing, and the consequences, I’ll answer that question with another question: why do you thing that gun control is such a priority for for the hope-a-dopes?

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:13 pm 80. Harry:

I told you even with a 15 billion loan GM would still go under. Now they’re going under so what happened to the 15 billion? Bush was a genius compared to the democrats. We truly are all socialists now. Now Gelthier sttacks big oil and wants to punish them for GLOBAL WARMING by taxing them some more. Who will end up paying for it? THE CONSUMER. Thanks again dems. The inmates are running the insane asylum!

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:19 pm 81. SeanLA:

Best close I’ve read here since October!
WHOS got the nuts to get THAT ball rolling? Rush?

AS FRANKLIN SAID, WE MUST ALL HANG TOGETHER OR WE WILL SURELY HANG SEPARATELY

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:22 pm 82. The Blogshevik:

All demagogues have acted out in ways we’re experiencing now. From shoddy treatment of visiting statesman, to the attempts of squelching the voice of opposition and appealing to the “oppressed” through oratorical skills that promises hope and change. Of course, most of those and I certainly don’t have to mention any names, but they had varying degrees of success.

It’s rather scary in a fascist sort of way no?

Incompetence? Malevolence?

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say both. I don’t think anything the current administration does is done off the cuff.

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:22 pm 83. Tcobb:

I think that we can invoke Clark’s Law (no, not Clarke’s Third Law, from which it was derived).

“Sufficiently advanced cluelessness/incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.”

Exactly, Mr. Simberg. As I tried to point out in a post above, it is WHAT you do that counts. The WHY is secondary. If someone intentionally kills your child through an intentional act does it really matter WHY they did it? Does the WHY ever truly excuse the WHAT?

And can we ever really know the WHY of any act? Did the person on probation for crime X really risk his life to save a drowning child out of altruism or out of a calculated gamble that by taking a risky act he would improve his chances of getting an early release from supervision? We can never really know the WHY as to anyone’s behavior. The WHAT can be quantified.

Perhaps that’s where the greatest political divide is: people who focus upon the WHY (intentions) and those who focus upon the WHAT(the deeds).

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:30 pm 84. Just Passing Through:

One thing that isn’t being considered in this discussion is that not every Democrat in congress, House or Senate, is comfortable with the way things are tanking.

Pelosi and Reid, and therefore Obama, are only as powerful as the support they get within their party line votes. Crack the party line voting, and their agendas tank instead of the country.

There are a LOT of Democrat legislators getting an earful fromt heir constituents right now. As one poster above pointed out, the Pelosi types elected out of progressive enclaves may be secure in their jobs (if not leadership positions) not matter what the backlash. But there are what I suspect is a number fast approaching the tipping point (or already past it) where Pelosi will not have the votes needed to pass legislation. Not all Democrat legislators see their incomes as secure as Pelosi does or are Steve P types who’ll continue to whistle past the graveyard.

It may not take until the 2010 elections before the progressive wing of the Democrat is stopped. Pelosi after all is speaker only for as long as the Democrat caucus in the house supported her.

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:30 pm 85. Cienfuegos:

God damn America. The theme of his presidency, and not just some words he heard in church.

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:31 pm 86. liberty4usa:

I see it as deliberate
for a global socialism
look at all the un-American symbols he creates in his own image, he (and others) are doing what a saboteur could only dream of accomplishing!
http://thenma.org/blogs//index.php/libertyforusa/2009/03/04/sovereignty-sabatoged

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:34 pm 87. eurabitopian:

Incompetence or malevolence?

Duh?

Where ya bin yo?

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:45 pm 88. Dougas Reiter:

I love your work Roger. It would be quite hard to prove and impeach this man. The majority voted him in. I believe we are about to find out if the founding fathers were fundamentally right, or wrong about the common sense of the working man/woman. If, in 2010, the R’s do not take back some of their losses, I fear Jefferson, Adams etal may be wrong. They hadn’t yet met George Soros, the modern left, TV and successful propaganda techniques.

Mar 5, 2009 - 5:00 pm 89. Tom H:

Sorry guys, but just watched a segment on Fox News, and apparently there are many people who are thrilled to death with the great job the O is doing ‘to help us’……. as it was said in the earlier post – too many want the free stuff and they will forever vote to keep it comin’…Secession? revolution? Costa Rica?

Mar 5, 2009 - 5:05 pm 90. Jack:

When you guys are done bad mouthing the President, can we start talking again? Politics isn’t a sport…both teams can lose.

That goes for the Liberals/Dems/whatever too…

It would be neat if we could all just stop whining at each other and stop thinking about politics as only win/lose by party affiliation. Seriously, golden rule all (myself included, I know), and lets try to avoid rioting over whose party is better.

Jack

Mar 5, 2009 - 5:11 pm 91. Still Bill:

Roger: I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again. Somewhere out there is an investigative “journalist” who, instead of being an Obama butt boy or an Obama butt girl, is willing to do what he or she should be doing in the Woodward and Bernstein mold and dig deep into the story of whether Obama was or was not born in this country. If he was born here, then that settles the issue and the story ends. But if he was not born here like many people suspect, then that bombshell will make some enterprising reporter very famous and very rich, and more importantly, journalism will cease being a joke to a large percentage of the American people. If you don’t believe me about the stature of “journalists” in this country, check out the next Gallup poll on how the Americans view “journalists”.

Mar 5, 2009 - 5:13 pm 92. Air2air:

I look forward to opinions on this very surprising poll result. It shows the public is shockingly clueless on the porkulus issue that I thought everybody understood, everywhere.

This is a Fox/Opinion Dynamics poll: “A 63 percent majority of Americans believe Obama’s priorities and policies are more likely to ’significantly help the country,’ while 25 percent believe they are more likely to ’seriously harm the country.’ … Over two-thirds (70 percent) of Americans think it is at least somewhat likely that the economic stimulus and spending bill recently passed by Congress will ‘create new jobs.’”

I am reeling at this because I thought that the basic argument behind Porkulus is clear and easy to understand, even to those under the MSM spell.

With the blog climate of the last week, I felt we were looking at a tidal wave of backlash. Now to find that it’s only 25%?

I am eager to hear your explanations on this one. Do we just have to wait a little longer for slower folks to catch on? Does blind partisanship trump even this obvious judgement? Do we just need to sit tight with some popcorn?

A famous quote: “Half of the people are below average IQ”. We all know where party affiliation lies for that group. But I assumed that Porkulus’ simple facts and immorality could pierce even that veil, if just a little.

Mar 5, 2009 - 5:17 pm 93. Oscar the Grump:

I was shocked last night when my wife pointed out that what we are see is the largest transfer of wealth this country has ever seen. Instead of trying to bring the underclass up and teach them how to succeed in a free economy, Obama is rewarding them for being the underclass. If you want to see a model being followed look to Venezuela and see how that is working.

Mar 5, 2009 - 5:23 pm 94. Judith:

With the help of the Pravda Obama fawning media, Obama, clocked in his vainglorious hubris, is charging headfirst to defeat, a self-defeat of this arrogant man that will shamefully drag the rest of us down w/ him. Already, my stock portfolio is down 30% in two months & my responsible 16 yrs of savings will be equally diminished by inflation as Obama begins to print money to pay for his fantasy spending programs. IIn addition, watch the market tank further as we sadly experience another terrorist attack. Such an attack is inevitable as Obama coddles the dictators & betrays our allies, turning the US into a “weak horse” in the eyes of the Islamofascists. Yes, it’s all about consolidating power…from the census grab to the creeping socialism of endless gov’t entitlements & socialized healthcare. The scare is that when we finally revolt against Obama for his unbridled spending spree & centralization of gov’t, it may well be a revolt that ironicaly demands more government interference to stop the Obama train, not less.

Mar 5, 2009 - 5:35 pm 95. Jones:

I think it is good old fashioned incompetence. Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing, he has no business being on the Podunk City council, let alone President, and his ideas on foreign policy are so ass-backwards that HE WILL get Americans killed.

IMPEACH. RESIGN.

Mar 5, 2009 - 5:44 pm 96. fear Obama:

BC

There is nobody currently on the conservative/Republican side of things that would have a prayer of fixing this mess whereas Obama, by the looks of things so far, has a bit more than just a prayer…..

I agree, we will need prayer and lots of it.

Next month when Israel attacks Iran and gas prices go to 10-15 dollars a gallon we will all need Obama on his knees praying.

I believe that will be the final nail in this hand basket coffin to hell the democrats have created for us.

I hope I didn’t make it too tough on you visioning a socialist liberal on his knees praying,
but I promise you God will him humble him or he will be removed.

Mar 5, 2009 - 5:48 pm 97. Meryl:

Now the tone of some of the posts reminds me of some of similar posts I made last summer–which posts were sarcastically brushed aside by more intelligent conservatives, saying that I was over-reacting.

Apparently I wasn’t.

And I was not actually all that brilliant. I was just believing what bambi was presenting about himself, believing what was known about his past, and believing that that his very thin resume represented his achievements to date. None.

IS there anyone who can make a case for malfeasance? He’s making sure things are happening so fast that no one has a chance to respond.

Of course, that’s part of the secret: if you don’t know what you’re doing, double your speed, and no one will notice.

Mar 5, 2009 - 5:53 pm 98. Jack:

#91 Still Bill – Yes, and lets dredge up if Bush was a draft dodger! Seriously, let it go…if a birth certificate doesn’t do it for you, at least just talk about how we fix the country. Are you really going to spend the next 4-8 years trying to overrule the will of the people based on something that hasn’t been considered as plausible by even the Republican party? If you can’t move on, please stand down…there is far too much at stake to be dealing with such non-issues.

#92 Air2Air – I get your point, but it’s far too early to know if it was the right thing or not. To the extent that people here think Obama has failed in his first few weeks, the approval rating is well above 60 percent, so lets try to keep everyone focused on the issues and not the arguing…you won’t convince the rest anyway.

#93 Oscar the Grump – The Republican problem with the stimulus bill was that there weren’t enough tax cuts…that is wealth redistribution all by itself, given that it wasn’t an across the board tax cut they wanted. You just disagree with where the money went.

#94 Judith – The stock market has fallen over 50% in the last two years…it’s very sad. Do you think it was Obama’s 2 month reign all by itself? Had nothing to do with the $800 billion Bush spent in October? I don’t mean to upset you, but it strikes me odd to blame the new guy…you didn’t blame Bush for 9-11 did you?

#95 Jones – You are worried about Americans getting killed, but Bush got more Americans killed (soldiers even) than the terrorists did. I hate to think that you are pre-judging Obama just because he’s new in office. Bush’s foreign policy got us a nuclear armed NK, Iranians on the verge, the Taliban resurging, Osama on the loose, Darfur no better, Somalia run by Al Qaeda, Russia invading neighbors, Venezuala run by Chavez, Bhutto killed and islamic radicals taking over in Pakistan, and so on. You can say Obama’s approach is wrong, but Bush’s results don’t sound very good either…

Jack

Mar 5, 2009 - 6:10 pm 99. Jack:

#97 Meryl – I recall that Bush turned over a bunch of the Clinton policies as soon as he got in office too. He did some extras as well like pulling out of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. My hope is that the flurry of activity we are seeing is going to settle down soon, and while perhaps not something that we should ignore, might be the nature of Presidents of new parties once they come into office. I don’t agree with all of them either, and I feel he is disregarding his promises of allowing time for public discourse.

If you put yourself up as the “change” guy, you are begging critique, and he is certainly begging for it.

Jack

Mar 5, 2009 - 6:14 pm 100. SCOTT:

Wow!! All of this calls for a beer….maybe two.

Mar 5, 2009 - 7:17 pm 101. Delia:

@100. SCOTT:

Wow!! All of this calls for a beer….maybe two.
~

LMAO!

The DRINKING GAME:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mTUN18AFP4

Everyone drink when 0bama says epic things like, “Stimulus” or “Earmarks” or [GOD FORBID] “CRISIS”…

*hiccup*

veggiemeatyviteyvat!

“Do you pop out at parties? Are you unPOOPular? All your answeres are in this bittle lottle…”

Mar 5, 2009 - 8:17 pm 102. glueball:

I would have said incompetance a few weeks ago but more out of wishful thinking than because I really beleived so. Where is his good buddy Warren Buffet and his -50% earnings for Berkshire Hathaway to give him better advice? I think Chairman Zero wanted the endoresement but doesnt want any advice at this point. Yes his mishandling of the economy is being done with malice and forethought, though a bit less of the latter as entropy is notoriously easy to accelerate.

Mar 5, 2009 - 8:37 pm 103. harry:

#95, Jones:
Can an entire party be impeached?

Mar 5, 2009 - 8:47 pm 104. harry:

#98 Jack
re: #91
If it was good enough for the press and the left to stomp on Bush for 8 years it’s damn well good enough for the right to stomp on Obama. THE HONEYMOON IS OVER JACK! Obama is now fair game thanks to his assinine socialist agenda. I tried to warn ya but I guess you were all too blind deaf and dumb.

re #92:
The numbers are sinking and if these policies continue will sink a lot more.

re #93:
Where is the money going Jack? Can you give us a clue? Can you give us a balance sheet?
15 billion for GM where did it go and they’re probably going to file for bankrupcy anyway. Throwing billions away for nothing!

re#94:
Sure there’s plenty of blame to go around but what’s going on here is taking a bad situation and making it worse. Look at the markets just the past month and the past week! Obama’s actions are terrible for business. People with money create jobs and the rich are going to put it in safely in their pockets instead of risking it. Now there’s no money to create jobs and if you do make money you will be punished.

re#95:
Your true colors are really showing here. You give Bush zero credit, just blame. It is wrong and childish and got us a President that doesn’t know what he’s doing. If Obama’s foreign affairs are as good as his economic solutions GOD HELP US. Bush kept this country safe after 9/11 and all your type can do is bitch and moan about lost liberties. For 8 years your kind waited to put its agenda to work and now we are seeing it at work. It’s quickly turning out to be a disaster. We now have to wait two years until this runaway train can be stopped. It’s not just Obama but the entire democratic party. Stop electing idiots!!!

Mar 5, 2009 - 9:23 pm 105. katablog:

Wonder article and sounds pretty dead on. The only thing open to debate is that indeed all this started back with Clinton and showed its ugly face in the last year of Bush. No one can argue that everything Bush did in that last year also looked like attempted sabotage too. Bush was either so far out of his element that he trusted the wrong people, or also leading us to destruction. I think in the case of Bush, it’s the later.

On the other side, no one can argue that Obama has taken a very bad situation and made it 100 times worst in the shortest time possible. No one could dream that the USA would move at such a lightening speed towards total chaos (because some of us won’t let it go down without an all out fight) and destruction.

Mar 5, 2009 - 9:34 pm 106. ITF:

“. . . tax cuts…that is wealth redistribution all by itself.”

That is an amazingly stupid statement.

Tax Cut = reduction in the marginal rate of funds appropriated from the people.

These people seriously propose that the Government owns all wealth and income in the land, and the portion of someone’s income remaining after tax is some sort of gift from the benevolent Government.

With ignorance of that magnitude running loose, and in positions of federal power, we are truly screwed. “Equality” we shall have . . . in peasanthood.

Mar 5, 2009 - 9:48 pm 107. Publius:

The reason the Founders put in the 2nd Amendment was to give the citizen/patriots one last option when all else fails. I believe the military will be with us on this one.

Publius

Give me liberty or give me death.

Mar 5, 2009 - 10:08 pm 108. Air2air:

Jack you have written the most eloquent illustration of standard liberal debate technique I have seen to date. And thank you for politely answering posters instead of insulting. It would be a pleasure to debate with you, and your party needs more representatives like you.

Back to the standard liberal debate technique, it is to change the topic at hand, and recite unrelated issues to blame Bush for. You include:

“…nuclear armed NK, Iranians on the verge, the Taliban resurging, Osama on the loose, Darfur no better, Somalia run by Al Qaeda, Russia invading neighbors, Venezuala run by Chavez, Bhutto killed and islamic radicals taking over in Pakistan…”

I cannot quite make the connection where Bush somehow installed Chavez, among all the other jewels. Sorry. And you know perfectly well that Darfur is left up to the reknowned stewardship of the UN, and Obama is keeping it that way. As far as Bhutto’s assasination, well, I didn’t know Bush was that good a shot.

You left out Bush’s African AIDS initiatives which even CNN admits have saved from 7 to 10 million lives. That was $15 billion well spent. But I am certain this snippet is virtually unknown in the Lib blogosphere.

Mar 5, 2009 - 10:21 pm 109. buddy larsen:

–agree most heartily w/ Scott way back upthread @ #5 –Andrew Napolitano is lately literally quivering with outrage over this Constitution-trashing. AND, he’s starting at the top of the trashings, the blending together (with both using the other’s perogatives as the basis for its own secrecy) of Dep’t of the Treasury and the private bank consortium known as the Federal Reserve.

Mar 5, 2009 - 10:25 pm 110. Cincinnati Whig:

google the phrase “Cloward-Piven Stategy”

the DiscoverTheNetworks & AmericanThinker articles will blow your mind

Rush Limbaugh seems to have been hinting he’s going to get into this sometime soon

Mar 5, 2009 - 10:40 pm 111. kev:

WOW!!!Now I know I am not the only one who thought Obama was financially challenged. I am glad this pimple on my ass has surfaced. Dont get me wrong, I am sure Harvard Law is a great school. It looks better than my resume. What I want to know is how much business experience does he really have. I think my 12 year old nephew who has a paper route understands business and the economy better than Obama.

As he states ” How can the president give people money who dont pay for anything. Thats like me delivering the paper to people who dont pay their bill when I give it to them. If I kept delivering the paper to those bums then my boss would have to eat all that money.” I said, if your boss was the goverment he would charge(tax) you so the dead beats could get their paper.

A republican is born!!!!

Mar 5, 2009 - 10:45 pm 112. kev:

I just sent a check to the feds for $100,000. This is how the great Obama is using my money.

$20,000 to a bank that I dont even belong to (damn)
$20,000 to the auto companies( I am a Ford man, I guess I dont get a deal)
$20,000 is going to pay for f-in absolutly nothing (porky-pigs)
$20,000 is for tax cuts (wait – So I pay for tax cuts)
$20,000 pays for the interest to pay for the above

Obama calls it the new New Deal.

I call it (takin it up the butt)

Bend over America!!! The DEMOCRATS ARE CuMMING!

Mar 5, 2009 - 11:09 pm 113. vivo:

Richard Kimball is playing Chicken Little again and crying wolf. The chicken coop is happily eating all that Kimball corn and flapping wings all around. What a sight!!

- – -

89. Tom H:

“…Secession? revolution? Costa Rica?”

How about Alaska?

- – -

96. fear Obama:

“Next month when Israel attacks Iran and gas prices go to 10-15 dollars a gallon we will all need Obama on his knees praying.”

And Israel will disappear, maybe the whole M.E.

Mar 5, 2009 - 11:39 pm 114. buddy larsen:

meryl @ 97; IS there anyone who can make a case for malfeasance? meryl, does the court of public opinion allow circumstantial evidence? If the answer to that is ‘yes’ then the answer to you is ‘yes’.

There’s any number of places to start. The new President’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board (PERAB) is one.

Or search the names involved with writing the yr 2000 financial legislations (such as LS-697 & LS-1073, stories in themselves, outgoing Clinton ’show-responding’ to new, unregistered, ‘dark pools’ of money in our markets via privacy protections that are now ruining banking and insurance as ‘credit default swaps’ engineered by a Treasury deputy who is now, natch, Obama’s new chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission) and how those regulations seem to be today’s oft-decried “lack of regulations”.

Or, re actual lack of regulations, search the names (and the names of who placed them in their jobs) involved with the series of SEC changes made in 2007. Note the specific changes, and their thin, unlikely rationales weighed against the monumental –and inexplicanbly ongoing role those products are playing in the current multi-trillion bottomless (until we get to zero, comrade?) destruction of 230 years of national asset-building.

Note that three 2007 SEC changes in decades-proven rules such as “uptic”, “mark-to-market” (FASB #157), and lending leverage allowables (the old 12:1 tripled in one fell swoop?). Note how these three changes worked in synergy to throw the markets into crisis just before the election.

Look at Jim Cramer’s calls for a special prosecutor to examine the September “bear raids” which basically crushed the American banking system and began the dissolution of the Dollar (which is not as apparent now as it will be ergo the collusion of Fed and Treasury runs out its string).

Look at what those bear-raids really were (enter Madoff & associates such as the Genovese crime family, latin drug laundering, the Kremlin as “russian mafia”, and elements of the Democratic party).

That’s for starters. That’s a few hours work to get you started. You’ll by then have noted some NGOs, some charitable foundations whose names turn up often. You might notice for example items such as that on the PERAB is a CEO that accidently or not is for a fact leading the charge to destroy American wealth (look at what he’s done to widows and orphans, but can’t be fired because the board of directors won’t fire him, and that that the board as well as the CEO are members of a web of cross-linked foundations that financially support the far left green and cultural agenda not to mention such street organizations as ACORN. You might have noted the eight year-long destruction of the Bush administration by the media arm of GE, that is, NBC, MSNBC, and (mixed because of no-doubt-soon-to-suffer apostates Cramer, Kudlow, and Gasparino) CNBC –which you will have noted via the link in the previous para, figures prominently in the ongoing collapse of the once-mighty American stock market. And as goes Wall, so goes Main soon enough. Street, that is. American life. Food, family, freedom.

Well, there’s more, Meryl, but that’s a starter. BTW, Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit has apparently committed to keeping American Tea Party news up-to-date.

Mar 6, 2009 - 12:39 am 115. buddy larsen:

The papers are catching on to that new board of advisors. And, as i was saying, that’s but one line of enquiry, one point of entry, into the truth which lies. out there, i mean. The nature of the new administration.

Mar 6, 2009 - 12:55 am 116. Rachel Peepers:

Over the past month, I must have written more than 10,000 words trying to point out in every way I could think of what a colossal con man was elected President. Someone who parses language like a lawyer with a ginsu knife so he can lie till the cows come home. Or Michelle walks in the door. Whichever comes first.

Like cops after con men, I think the bunch of us here are pretty much understanding what Barack and Co. are up to. Why he seems to delight in scapegoating the rich.

Why he’s running up a trillion dollar debt stuffed full of earmarks.

And what his end game is: solidifying a voting base in a socialist America.

What’s more, more than one voice is calling for the lawyerly, liarly dirt bag’s impeachment

Personally, I’ve tried to understand why Obama doesn’t seem to care that every other word out of his mouth sends Wall Street diving, has our 401K’s in freefalls.

In fact, since Barack became President the Dow has lost 6,000 points. Obama doesn’t care because less money in the people’s pockets makes them more dependent on government. “I want the population to think of their government as their sugar daddy,” says Barack.

Why? For one thing, who would vote against a sugar daddy?

Ever consider who’ll be sure to vote for Obama in the future?
Barack’s voting base are slacker deadbeats who want to enjoy the fruits of hard work and years of higher education without lifting a finger or opening a book.

Like a magic act, Barack’s con game also includes a distraction. For the next three weeks, it involves an attack on Rush Limbaugh. Turn on CNN, network news, or MSNBC. You’ll find that our financial crisis or the stimulus spending plan isn’t mentioned. Nothing about diving 401K retirement funds.

Just silliness about who is the leader of the Republican Party.

Barack baby doesn’t want the national conversation to be about the earmarked stuffed stimulus bill. Because he lied through his teeth when he said if necessary he’d go through the bill line by line to make sure it was devoid of earmarks.

Well, he didn’t. And it’s not. To the tune of 9,000 of them amounting to nearly 500 million of your tax dollars. Wasted like you flushed your hard earned money down the toilet.

And, apologies to the writer of this article, but if you think all this is maybe the result of incompetence, well, you’re as gullable and naïve as the numbskulls
who voted for Barack in the first place.

This kind of thing happens because Barack and his merry men plan it that way, from Rahm to Begala, to Hapless Harry and niggardly Nancy. (Notice I said “men”.)

Along with enablers. I’m talking about the media lapdogs, the mainstream media. They should be stripped of all constitutional protections, because they’ve turned on America.

Enabling Barack Obama and his henchmen to take their best shot at making America the real life story of Franz Kafka’s Metamorphysis. I’m not kidding. I’m afraid America will figuratively go to bed one night and wake up the next morning to a changed America. Barack’s America. An unrecognizable America based on socialist dogma, among other things, like redistribution of wealth, sky high taxes, socialized medicine, military unpreparedness and class warfare.

Incompetence? Uh uh. This is Barack’s master plan. Kind of reminds me of another master plan. Called the master race. Let’s face facts, people, Barack was a colossal mistake. Now we need a national eraser. I hope we find one before it’s too late.

Mar 6, 2009 - 2:20 am 117. buddy larsen:

sorry –my link in #102 was meant to’ve been:

http://www.deepcapture.com/

Mar 6, 2009 - 3:58 am 118. Ken Besig:

Obama will first destroy American free enterprise and market capitalism and then he will remake America, just like he promised during his campaign and in his inauguration speech.

Mar 6, 2009 - 4:40 am 119. buddy larsen:

Darn, Treasury Sec Geithner is just so swamped! that people who want to ask qustions can’t (he couldn’t make a senate hearing yesterday), that FoxNews ran a headline story on his swamped-ness, that he can’t get help –all of which is, considering he sits, golden pencil in hand, at the center of America’s defense –mighty durn peculiar.

Considering that he could pick up the phone and suspend FSAB Rule 157 (mark to market) and without cost mind you, immediately tack 1000 upside points onto the Dow and turn all world indexes sharply upward.

Considering that anyone at all can search the term in question and see that 95 hundred gajillion money people are begging him to suspend the rule (but begging in some sort of airtight chambers where MSM appatently can’t hear or see them).

Mar 6, 2009 - 4:40 am 120. buddy larsen:

Staffing Headaches Hindering Treasury at Crucial Time hollers ABC on Feb 24, ten days ago, ten days of about a hundred billion dollars a day spontaneously combusting into thin air, and no one can call a temp agency?

“Eh, wots the rush?”
–attributed in my imagination to V.I. Lenin

Mar 6, 2009 - 4:55 am 121. buddy larsen:

FASB, not what i put up there, sorry if you searched wrong acrmyon. Federal Accounting Standards Board –yes yes yes impressive, but the rules are pretty fkuid. The rule in question was in force for some years prior to 1938, when for the same reasons as we need to do it now THIS MINUTE, FDR (who wanted a little socialism but for God’s sake not a hundred freaking percent of it) suspended it.

It stayed suspended until late in 2007. when a “captured regulatorybody” shook it off and stuck it back in, in time to crash confidence before the election, in time for a cabal of naked shorts to make lord knows how much crashing our banking system from the deep-inside, and the far-outside.

Search who (Soros) was buying heavily into LEH (LEH was the power-driver of the leveraged bad paper to 40:1 territory, driving it in volume and pressure and sales tactics –”auction rate securities” –to beyong nature, to where the crash HAD to occur) in August, just before it became the only one YET to go banckrupt –signaling to international investors that something more was SO wrong that the stock market crash wave then became a self-fulfilling vicious cycle.

Geithner said he ”lacked authority” to save LEH –a salvation that the system had been led to expect, which hugely amplified the fear, making it for many no longer a problem ‘event-driven’ but ‘cabal-driven’. Also, if so, then, he lacked authority to do what he did before and after the event which all market people place as the global crash event.

Re M to M, Barney Frank doing the same fabian drag feet dawdle, tells some that he lacks authority to lift it, tells others (those who know he does have the power) that it’s “too late” to lift it.

All this stuff is freely available on the net –i’d link every scrap of it if i had it better organized and was in no rush to get this in front of some eyes before the net half-life expires –which it probably already has, except for the lovely Rachel Peepers.

BTW, the deepcapture.com quotes a recent Asian conference that describes why the victims of the late 90s Asian Financial Collapse were better prepped for this one than we: those specific three rules had been not dropped but beefed up, after their own crash. Who among others is credited with causing that crash? Soros. Who was Clinton’s ‘fixer’? Prominently, Geithner & Summers, or as they were known then, Summers & Geithner.

Yes, go ahead, re-read that. then do your own search runs, the web knows what is happening. then call your congressfolk and SCREAM. Or, we can all just “be reds” –i kinda like them greek fisherman hats ya get to wear. and the posing –so cool, like Che! …Mailer…Kerouac…Seeger. oh, they’re all so empathetic.

Mar 6, 2009 - 5:42 am 122. Mary Grabar:

Bravo! Impeachment, yes. Obama is nothing more than an Ivy League professor who has never dealt with reality. His ideas, like those of the poststructuralists, are spun out of thin air. That’s why he has such contempt for Joe Plumbers. The teleprompter tells us a lot. Motivating him is a combination of incompetence and malevolence. He has displayed no love for this country, no respect for the Constitution. The evidence was there during the election on paper and on film. Now he and Michelle party in the White House on Wednesday nights while the people lose homes and savings.

Mar 6, 2009 - 5:44 am 123. buddy larsen:

i’m sorry again. Evidently there was an overnight que back-up and this site scrambled the comment numbers. My bad link is now not in #102, as i said here:

>>117. buddy larsen:
>>sorry –my link in #102 was meant to’ve been:
>>http://www.deepcapture.com/
>>Mar 6, 2009 – 3:58 am

…but is now, rather, in #114 as what those bear raids really were. ah, housekeeping, job’s never done ….

Mar 6, 2009 - 6:07 am 124. RE:

The mob managed to get their man elected. America now has a malevolent fool for a president.

The wisdom and foresight of the founding fathers is about to be tested. Will the system of government they created specifically to protect the American people from the dark side of human nature withstand this assault?

Mar 6, 2009 - 6:12 am 125. NYC Tea Party:

Obama is implementing the Osama bin Laden plan for the destruction of the U.S., its defenses and its economy.

Mar 6, 2009 - 6:37 am 126. Tomp:

It’s not malevolence. He’s emulating Mugabe and the Zimbabwean economic model.

Mar 6, 2009 - 6:40 am 127. Paul Gross:

“Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity” -Nick Diamos

Mar 6, 2009 - 7:26 am 128. Sad in NC:

Maybe our worst fears with on target when we
heard him say we had 57 or 58 states. Maybe he is a plant to wreck what’s left of the USA.
We know he’s an empty suit.. to lazy to write bills sends them to Nancy and the crooks. He riding in his caddies and planes
playing Mr. President there’s work to the job
even if you do it as poorly as he does. He’s not going to work he was born an raised by
the American tit..and now he sharing..hells bells is this what we’ve come to. This is the first time in my life I’m ashamed of my country.

Mar 6, 2009 - 7:38 am 129. buddy larsen:

Why Not the Truth?

Mar 6, 2009 - 7:42 am 130. acj:

When did we give tax breaks for the rich? Wasn’t it early in the Bush Administration? It has had many years to bloom into fruitarian, but it hasn’t. Free enterprise healthcare is the main killer of small businesses-not tax breaks. Extra money went into the pockets of many. It is our system that has failed many. Greed that has failed many…if someone is going broke someone is getting rich. Healthcare is the blood-sucking vampire on our society.
Obama dares to confront the most powerful enterprise in our nation….for us and small businesses.
The stock market spiral of death is because the banks are in a default mode. It has been eroding for some time….way before we even knew who Obama was. AIG in trouble for finacial irregularities in 2005 and they were Bush’s friends. So Roger, don’t give me this crap.

Mar 6, 2009 - 7:45 am 131. Meryl:

buddy larsen…thanks for your research and postings.

It would sure be a step in the right direction if a special prosecutor was appointed to investigate the “bear raids” in September. The seeming lack of curiosity about that over the past many weeks has bothered me.

The activities, timings and identities of people involved there need to be dragged in to the light. You’ve provided the most succinct commentary I’ve seen on this, and I will try to access some of what you reference. I’m not very skilled in finding things so appreciate what you’ve put here.

What is your sense of the chances of a special prosecutor appointment actually occurring?

Mar 6, 2009 - 7:50 am 132. Cybergeezer:

I’ll just cut and paste my earlier post:
What part of DISASTER do you not understand?

Feb 27, 2009 – 3:57 pm

Mar 6, 2009 - 7:59 am 133. Instapundit » Blog Archive » MICHAEL BOSKIN: Obama’s Radicalism Is Killing the Dow. Paul Krugman says Obama’s killing the Do…:

[...] Krugman says Obama’s killing the Dow by dithering. So the question keeps coming up: Incompetence or malevolence? Either way, that people are asking is a bad sign . . . [...]

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:19 am 134. JDW:

Some kid told Cramer we elected a “Leninist” – is that a Russian word for “douchebag”? If so, then that kid was spot on.

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:21 am 135. buddy larsen:

acj, re AIG yes Bush should’ve reversed the enabling regs, but those regs are not Bush’s:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/b?s=AIG&t=2009-03-06T02:41:10-05:00

The AIG debacle: yr 2000, outgoing Clinton tasks Treasury to craft legislation that will deflect worries over foreign unregistered dark investment pools entering US mkts. Deputy Sec Treasury Gensler does so, leaving unregulated the precise instruments that are now blowing up AIG. Gensler has been rewarded by Obama admin despite (or because of?) having authored this fantastical destruction, by appointment to critical regulatory position as chairman of Commodities Futures Trading Commission.

Re health care being the vampire, do some reading outside the 3rd-party-payer channel. You don’t need to pay fortunes to someone to stand between you and your doctor. You don’t need to consign your children to soviet life of gray despair (while The People’s Leaders frolic out of your sight in their swank dachas). There are many others, but one person trying to tell you something if only you’ll listen is Dr. John Muney:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_en&q=dr+muney%27s+plan

http://blog.americanjusticecenter.com/2009/03/state-orders-dr-john-muney-to-stop.html

http://www.examiner.com/Subject-John_Muney.html

Cmon, man. wake up. this thing happening ain’t gonna be good for you –unless you’re among the nomenklatura. you won’t find out til too late.

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:29 am 136. John Steele:

“3. Staring In Disbelief:

Mar 5, 2009 – 10:31 am”

I have always said that the reason communism failed is that the people doing it were incompetent and unimaginative — Russia, China, Cuba et al — and that if you really wanted communism to work you had to turn it over to people who knew how to get things done, Americans. I think we are about to find out if I was right.

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:36 am 137. Joe:

Steve P,

Quite a lot of us objected to the Bush initiated bailout, thank you. I called both my Congressman and Senator several times to register my objection, as I did for the “stimulus” package.

You are aware that Obama has already increased the deficit by more than all previous presidents *combined*, right?

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:38 am 138. LeatherPenguin » Calling a Spade a Spade [Updated]:

[...] I: “Incompetence, malevolence, or both?” I was having lunch yesterday with a prominent critic of the Spender in Chief, and he raised a [...]

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:45 am 139. buddy larsen:

Meryl, i don’t think we’ll see a SP –there’s a dunbar number behind all this and while some had to take the golden parachute to make it all look like unconnected chaotic (probably republican) greed, others are still in office and dangerous. but we can sure demand one, and keep on demanding one til we succeed or Gabriel blows his horn, whichever comes first. As far as finding info, just experiment typing key words of questions into search –then soon enough you’ll find ways to identify the reputable sources (search *them* for one thing) –IOW the facts are out there, not all but plenty enough to sharpen the proper questions.

Here’s a blog, Belmont, covering this festering mess daily & in a thoughtful, dispassionate way. Good writer and informed commenters. good luck –

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:50 am 140. epb:

And the worse it get, the more the Jackboot Media increases the volume of its mantra to protect, hide, and minimize Obama’s incompetence, naivete and arrogance. Emperor Obama’s got no clothes on!

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:55 am 141. epb:

Oops, Part II.
Obama’s incompetent, the media however is malevolent. The Obama Press Corp., i.e., the mainstreet media, is condescending, calculating and corrupt.

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:58 am 142. Horace Wells:

“kathy:
What we need now is some clever legal talent to show how deliberately sabotaging the United States economy counts as Treason, a high Crime, or at least a Misdemeanor. Any takers?”
First, you have to show there is a crime, not normal stock market boom and bust, then you have to find the conspiracy. Better yet, take those anti-paraonia meds your doctor prescribed. Then, if it is true, find some real lawyers not some small minded, insult spewing beetches like Coulter or Levin. When was the last time any of the two went to court or wrote a legal brief?
Calling Obama a Leninist is not only dishonest, it exposes a small mind that liberally tosses out tyrant monikers that don’t apply. Why not call him a Stalinist, Maoist or a Hitlerist. One thing is for sure, Kimball wouldn’t have to the guts to say that and PJ Media would not exist if that was true!

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:04 am 143. geoffgo:

TOhio@49

Lots of rope?

Jack@48

That would represent a real “mass of anger” – calling for teargas. And, they’ll all have to avoid the fines for illegal assembly, no? Besides, the DC bureaucrats would make sure there were NO porta-potties.

JMH@50

Like we aren’t already?

TCobb@56

I disagree. Malicious intent applied to Obama’s actions is speaking the truth, laying the groundwork for discussing appropriate sentencing. Impeachment ain’t enough folks.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:06 am 144. Joe:

* A note for all conservatives and libertarians. *

What Obama is effectively doing is cementing in stone a greatly more powerful and intrusive government. For years, we have looked at tax cuts as the way to counter the growth and power of the state. While I fervently believe in low taxes, I think that this approach is faulty.

While I was hardly a supporter of Ron Paul, I do believe there is one thing we can take from his candidacy and should embrace should the Republicans make it back into power in 2010 or beyond. We *must* work to repeal legal tender laws (first and foremost before targeting the Fed). As we have seen, government grows with or without tax cuts. It borrows and spends with total recklessness. The only true way to counter this is to regain control of the currency.

Bad actors, public and private, will always be with us. The only way to prevent them from having such an effect on us is by limiting their power to influence the decisions we freely make, and the free exchanges we partake in.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:09 am 145. geoffgo:

Fellowtravellingsteve@68

You ask: What are you suggesting? Armed revolt? Good luck with that.

You are over confident in your mindlessness.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:14 am 146. Incompetence or Malevolence:

[...] People are beginning to ask.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:16 am 147. deguello:

MR. Kimball: Incompetence and malevolence, are certainly two of the three features of the marxist-leninist mind-set;you forgot the third:fantasy.Regards.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:16 am 148. Tomp:

To ACJ:
The trial lawyers are the biggest cause of health care increases.

Ignorance is now Americas most costly commodity.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:18 am 149. JFM:

Acj

The spiral of death was due to legislation taken in Clinton times, that Bush tried to have repelled and failed to the conjunction of a disciplined Democrat minority (read they voted NO to a man) and a few Republicans. Nice try on your part however.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:20 am 150. Steve:

Obama cannot raise taxes and spending himself. Congress has the power of purse. We can blame Obama for pushing this agenda, but he does not control Congress.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:22 am 151. Charlie Martin:

Yeah, Roger, that impeachment thing worked great for us last time.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:24 am 152. geoffgo:

SAF@72

So malevolent is whatever anybody decides?
Whether he believes it or not is the irrelevant part, it’s actually malevolent.

Unforgivably so. And for his cronies too!

Jeanie@74

Signs?

What if we had these peaceful rallies with everyone outwardly carrying guns? I mean if you want to make a statement that maybe the pols harken to, before it’s too late…

PS, Weaponry shouldn’t be loaded, yet.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:24 am 153. trangbang68:

vivo, Uh, Richard Kimball is not the writer of this piece. Actually that’s the name of the fugitive on the old tv show. Ironic you would bring that up as you’re a fugitive from reality and common sense.
The prophetic words of Bob Dylan from circa 1966 ring true in “Ballad of a Thin Man” (with big ears?)
“you’ve been with the professors
and they’ve all liked your looks
With great lawyers
You’ve discussed lepers and crooks
you’ve been through all of F Scott Fitzgerald’s books
You’re very well read, its well known
because something is happening
and you don’t know what it is
do you, Mr. Jones? (Obama)

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:31 am 154. Cara C:

Obama is a Marxist who is intentionally destroying the wealth and power of the middle class, like any good Marxist would do. It’s hard to fight back against crushing government oppression when you’re impoverished and dependent.

There’s no doubt he’s a Marxist. Obama was raised by Communists and has worked his adult life alongside those committed to wiping out capitalism. Ayers: terrorist, Communist. ACORN: founded to overthrow capitalism. Wright: Black Liberation Theologist (racist Marxist). I could go on.

I’m sure he’s also incompetent on many practical matters, which is why he can’t go anywhere without his teleprompter. His passions are radical theory, white oppression, and power and how to gain it.

It’s clear Obama is not that good at math. He once said about a tornado, “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.”

In reality, 12 people had died. Obama seemed to have no understanding that if 10,000 people had been killed, it would have been a catastrophe of major proportions, with a death toll higher than 9/11 and Katrina combined. It would not have been something anyone in America could have missed.

Well, 12 or 10,000 dead. What’s the difference? It’s all chump change compared to the 25 million Americans his long-term mentor Bill Ayers was willing to kill in the Communist takeover he was planning back in the 1970s.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:34 am 155. Harry Truman:

My thanks to those of you who have taken the time to post some insightful research links or at least keyword searches. Sometimes these commentaries reward the patient reader.
Military training teaches that it is important to understand the motivations of one’s adversary; this is a chess game in real life. Be not a pawn. Hearken back to the words of Khrushchev who warned that we would be buried from within.
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/QuoteQuiz/index.php

Dusting off 1984, Brave New World, F451, the 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene.
The other day, Michael Savage brought to light an amazing work written circa 1935 by the socialist Sinclair Lewis, “It Can’t happen Here” in which he lays out what he perceived as the game plan for a Right wing takeover. Ironically everything he wrote there, EXCEPT for the direction of the takeover, is now happening by the book.

“The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them.”
Albert Einstein

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:37 am 156. geoffgo:

Bolg@82

Screw those bozo, bumbling, clueless labels. Those terms are inappropriate when you’re in the fight for your life, and your’re quickly being outgunned.

How about really competent malevolence? Calling them incompetent suggests they’re some temporary, easily repaired flaw in our political system, when they’re actually a viralent, widespread malignancy and metastising faster than we ever imagined possible. What will radical surgery entail?

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:39 am 157. Patricia A:

If arrogance contains the seed of its own destruction, then perhaps we won’t have long to wait!

I’ve just begun calling President Hope and Change, “Hollow Man”, that is lacking substance, core beliefs and values. If he had a soul, he would have a record of something – some achievement – anything.

I like to think of “Hollow Man’ as someone who is a conduit, or facilitor for other people’s socialist schemes; the Pelosis, Reids and Soros’ of the world whose primary goal is to suck the life and money out of our country through any devious and radical means necessary. And if anyone wants to know what’s in it for “Hollow Man”, acceptance, of course. The poor guy’s been looking for that all him life – I’m willing to bet.

This URL discusses the Jose Ortega y Gasset book: Revolt of the Masses. The commentary and the book are relevant to our times.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:54 am 158. geoffgo:

Jack@90

How civil of you. And consciously unconcerned. You clearly miss the point of most posting here; and especially the tone.

Politics isn’t a sport…both teams can lose No, we are talking about the both “teams” winning by robbing the audience at gunpoint, in every arena. It’s the supremely skilled Globetrotters against the inept Generals (both travel in the same bus), pulling off the biggest caper ever. And, the Sports Pages won’t report anything except the “Trotters Win Again!

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:56 am 159. John:

Read this original and is anyone in any doubt why the GOP is in the deepest of deep doo doo. Then follow it up with some of the postings here a dessert. I’m a trad conservative who has been very turned off over the last eight years but it’s becoming clearer by the day that conservatism and the Republican party in general is retreating into deepest lunacy.

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:09 am 160. James Felix:

Where were you when Bush was signing billion-dollar no-bid contracts for his contractor buddies? Where were you when Bush was signing the multi-billion bank bailout during his last days in office? You were silent, of course. Thanks for the hypocrisy.
———————————-

We most certainly were NOT silent. “Compassionate Conservatism” outraged and we said so, and we fought it, and we stopped supporting the RNC because of it.

With, as it turns out, disasterous results.

I’d also call attention to the fact that you don’t actually rebut anything said here. If you want to not take us seriously how about giving us a believable counter-argument?

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:11 am 161. Tiparillo:

Bare assertions, straw men, hyperbiolic rhetoric…….the Right is back, baby!

@Rand Simberg – 70: “Sufficiently advanced cluelessness/incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.” I assume you are talking about this post and comment thread?

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:14 am 162. Kevin Allison:

Andrew Sullivan’s reaction to your post:

Obama’s predecessor secretly invoked the power to suspend the First and Fourth Amendments for seven years, authorized the seizure and torture of American citizens, launched two decade-long wars of attrition, doubled the national debt, presided over the worst financial bubble since the 1930s, provided the weakest level of economic growth in decades, and left the US in the grip of the steepest depression since the 1930s. But after five weeks, it’s Obama who should be impeached? Ooookaaaay.

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:24 am 163. acj:

Clinton’s de-regulation was something that appealed to the republican’s agenda. Republicans savored deregulation, like a wolf looking at a lamb. It could work great for honest people. However, the unfortunate happened; an administration without any accountability took over.
AIG, Freddie and Fannie, and banks that speculated on real estate had no transperancy. And why did it take this long for the zit to pop? Because we now have a new administration to let us understand the true magnitude of the situation. And it is bad.
For quite sometime we have been lied too. How many times did the Bush administration, and Bush himself say the economy is strong? Like every day….what a liar!
Secondly, these events were never curtailed, and it was well known to be happening, and nothing was done.
In case you don’t understand a double standard in politics-republicans wear Non-stick and democrats wear Velcro.
Right now the republicans are trying to non-stick their horrible greedy mistakes onto Velcro….haven’t checked to see if this works, but time will tell.

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:26 am 164. anandamide:

I don’t know what’s dumber and more out of touch, this ridiculous article or the ridiculous comments that follow. At least now the bunch of you know what the other 49% have been feeling these last 8 terrible years…….

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:28 am 165. Matt:

Unfortunately, impeachment, resolution, etc are not viable options. 52% of the voting population either bought into Obama’s BS or wants this change. 2010 will be telling, as its highly unlikely the economy will make a significant recovery. I still think the libs will be able to ride the “failed policy of the past 8 years” into another win but 2012 could be much more challenging, if Obama’s had 4 years to fix the economy and all people see is they are paying more taxes.

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:32 am 166. Steve:

Well I haven’t gotten my quarterly 401K statement with an Obama administration but since during the last two quarters of the Bush administration I lost somewhere in the neighborhood of $30K, throw in the 30% reduction in the valuation of my house, the increase across the board of everything except for gas and I would say you’re crying that Obama is out to destroy my personal wealth rings a bit hollow.

Its about as disingenuous as Santelli crying about the ‘losers’ who purchased 5 year ARMS they couldn’t afford and part of the stimulus going to renegotiate their mortgages in front of the traders who were essentially responsible for driving this country into the ground, economically speaking, and then have/will have take $1.5T to right their sinking corporate ships.

Cry me a river. Your notions of free markets and capitalism failed, get over it and stop making a scene. It’s embarrasing.

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:33 am 167. Rob:

From Andrew Sullivan:

“Obama’s predecessor secretly invoked the power to suspend the First and Fourth Amendments for seven years, authorized the seizure and torture of American citizens, launched two decade-long wars of attrition, doubled the national debt, presided over the worst financial bubble since the 1930s, provided the weakest level of economic growth in decades, and left the US in the grip of the steepest depression since the 1930s. But after five weeks, it’s Obama who should be impeached?”

From me:

“You are a moron. In a silly bow-tie.”

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:41 am 168. Reality please:

Obama’s predecessor secretly invoked the power to suspend the First and Fourth Amendments for seven years, authorized the seizure and torture of American citizens, launched two decade-long wars of attrition, doubled the national debt, presided over the worst financial bubble since the 1930s, provided the weakest level of economic growth in decades, and left the US in the grip of the steepest depression since the 1930s. But after five weeks, it’s Obama who should be impeached? Ooookaaaay.

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:43 am 169. bloatus:

Interesting question. Was Bush malevolent or incompetent when he invaded Iraq? What’s that you say? There’s another possible explanation, that he was relying on intelligence at the time and made the best decision he could under the circumstances?

Here’s a tip: if people agree with you, that doesn’t mean that you are right. It could simply mean you are all unhinged. It would be funny if you weren’t so serious, and growing in number on a daily basis.

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:45 am 170. Rob:

ps to the moderator: after reading some of the ridiculous comments above, if you don’t post mine then I can only assume it’s because it wasn’t stupid and offensive enough for your readers

pps I’m impressed by how many paranoid and slightly crazy people read this blog. That must say something about someone…

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:52 am 171. Bryan J:

“What we need now is some clever legal talent to show how deliberately sabotaging the United States economy counts as Treason, a high Crime, or at least a Misdemeanor. Any takers?”

Here’s the essential problem: Most clever legal talent doesn’t fall into the wackjob conspiracy theorist camp. Good luck with that.

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:52 am 172. The Smart Conservative:

Do you really think Obama is a malevolent human being? Not! He’s a freakin’ lizard person. All conservatives know that our true enemies come from outer space and are lizards! Until we get some conservatives willing to tell the truth about Obama’s actual identity as a lizard alien we won’t be able to save America.

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:56 am 173. The Smart Conservative:

Sinclair Lewis despised pinko Lizard Aliens. True conservatives need more insightful analysis like this. We will save America!

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:59 am 174. Frank:

Congrats on your Malkin Award nomination. Your pathetic panicking definitely warrants it.

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:59 am 175. geoffgo:

How soon will the Left be reminding us that they have explicitly OUTLAWED all forms of torture (including and especially that “waterboarding technique), because they don’t work.

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:09 am 176. Tiparillo:

Interesting Bruce Bartlett article looking back at Conservative reaction to Reagan raising taxes during the recession of the early 80s. Was Reagan a socialist too?

http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/26/obama-budget-reagan-clinton-bush-opinions-columnists_higher_taxes.html

According to a recent Treasury Department study, Ronald Reagan proposed the largest peacetime tax increase in American history as part of a budget deal to get the federal deficit under control. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act (TEFRA) of 1982 was signed into law on Sept. 3, and most of its provisions took effect on Jan. 1, 1983.

During debate on TEFRA, many conservatives predicted economic disaster. They argued that raising taxes in the midst of a severe recession was exactly the wrong thing to do. “Every school child knows you don’t raise taxes in a recession unless you want to make it worse,” The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page warned. Said Rep. Newt Gingrich, “I think it will make the economy sicker.” The Chamber of Commerce of the U.S. said it had “no doubt that it will curb the economic recovery everyone wants.”

Looking at the data, however, it is very hard to see any evidence that TEFRA had a negative effect on growth. Indeed, one could easily make a case that its enactment stimulated growth. As one can see, the economy’s growth rates after TEFRA took effect were among the fastest in history.

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:16 am 177. The Brutal Truth:

Holy crap, you people are stupid.

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:23 am 178. Ricky Bobby:

So where were you wingnuts when this catastrophuck was being created by the REAL “Spender in Chief”, George W. Bush?

/crickets

Obama has been in power for how long compared to the previous administration but the falling stock market is his fault? RIIIGHT. No one here approves of logic in argumentation I see.

Have fun ranting in your cocoon, see you at the next Obama inauguration!

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:27 am 179. Is Obama Trying to Ruin the Country? « Meltdown Mania:

[...] Is Obama Trying to Ruin the Country? Or is he just that ignorant? [...]

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:33 am 180. MikeD:

I lean toward malevolence, although incompetence as a corollary of brain-dead liberal socialism isn’t out of the question. Still, all of this will take time to metastasize and become fully apparent to a reasonable number of those who voted to elect our smooth-talking clown leader. Unfortunate, I admit, but for people like “can’t we just get along Jack” sometimes they need to be smacked upside the head numerous times before they realize that they are the ones being bent over the communion rail. Publius at #107 may have grasped the ultimate conclusion for all this but if so he better be right about the military. It is possible that enough of them might become available so as to make that an eventual reality but not until things get much, much worse than they are now. Hard to pin your hopes on that and the 2nd amendment at this point.

In the interim, those with strong conservative feelings and anger need to do what they can in opposition. That can take many forms–from weakly expressing opposing viewpoints, cheering on Rush Limbaugh if that floats your boat, writing letters and calling the offices of the squishes that constitute what is left of the “opposition” party, or simply hoping that enough people will see through the “fog” by the 2010 midterm elections and throw a few of the most egregious slime buckets out of office. But all that assumes that the IQ level of the 52 million fools who are to blame for our present lamentable condition experience some awakening. And since the “million new graduates each year” are a little less informed that the million last year because of the failure of our educational system, I wouldn’t hold out a whole lot of hope for that. Just look at Steve P. Clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

So what can you do as you wander long in the wilderness? What can one do to survive and have an impact while waiting for a critical mass to evolve? I suggest the “Army of Davids” approach, and subtle guerrilla action. Individual resistence, either active or passive, and small actions that sabotage, individual efforts that RF the system, efforts that while not necessarily illegal do obstruct and make the socialist agenda more difficult. Fight against local and state taxes, home school, work against funding of local schools, don’t contribute to alumni organizations and local universities, vote opposition in local elections, work off the books, take part, in so far as possible, in the underground economy. Barter, evade sales taxes wherever possible, cheat government Or, if your conscience allows, steal from it at all levels in small subtle ways, evade government rules and regulations. Use your imagination–there are a million ways to obstruct and damage “the system”. Be an “outlaw” and as much of a saboteur as you feel comfortable being; it can be incredibly satisfying and an even profitable experience. And then, allow time and subtle opposition to expose the failure and lies of the present regime and allow public anger to seethe to the surface. Ultimately it will happen and then some kind of change will be possible. But at the moment the gnashing of teeth has little effect. A charlatan liar is president, the inmates are presently in charge of the asylum and a majority of the sheep do not realize they are being led to the slaughter. Go independent and go John Galt. Only you yourself stand in the way of having an impact. Help Obama fail. It will strengthen us and maybe save what this country used to be.

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:38 am 181. Horace Wells:

buddy larsen
Good work, keep exposing all those evil Jews! Naturally, no one in the Bush admin or any Christian has any blame.

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:47 am 182. Horace Wells:

Cara
Your bio needs a little fact checking, was Sotero or his real father Marxists, or his mother? If he really is a Marxist, then he must be a dialectic materialist, got any proof of that.
Generally,
when people toss out around heavy labels and make sweeping indictments based on at best flimsy evidence, my BS detector goes beep beep beep, no matter what the person’s politics or other qualifiers are. It shows some healthy skepticism and respect for the truth rather than knee jerkism.

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:52 am 183. Mike S:

Sullivan said it best:

Obama’s predecessor secretly invoked the power to suspend the First and Fourth Amendments for seven years, authorized the seizure and torture of American citizens, launched two decade-long wars of attrition, doubled the national debt, presided over the worst financial bubble since the 1930s, provided the weakest level of economic growth in decades, and left the US in the grip of the steepest depression since the 1930s. But after five weeks, it’s Obama who should be impeached? Ooookaaaay.

There’s a reason the GOP has a lower approval raiting than China. One need only read all of the comments here to see that you people are insane.

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:56 am 184. analogy:

The whole Democratic Party is bankrupt. The trillion dollar overnight reversal of Reagan and Bushx2 (+ Clinton welfare reform) was written by Pelosi and Reid, and a small group, before Obama took power.

I think he’s an empty suit, surrounded by 2nd tier players from the Clinton years, a rubber stamp for the ideologues and radicals who now run both Houses.

Mar 6, 2009 - 12:01 pm 185. even steven:

Are you freaking serious?

An economic meltdown 10-20 years in the making, and after 6 weeks in office, you are so completely sure that OBAMA is the cause of the destruction of America.

The jury will be out on his policies for several years, but the jury is in on the previous president — he certainly has a large amount of blame for the current mess. If you don’t believe that, then you are completely delusional.

I have serious doubts about Obama’s ability to succeed and given the complexity of the situation, he might indeed make it worse. But at least he is serious about trying and actually has a brain — which is an incredibly change compared to the ubermoron we had before.

Despite the fact that Bush was AWFUL, I never doubted his motives, he was just a complete fool. But everyone here is so sure OBAMA is evil and that they have insight into OBAMA’s motives despite tall evidence to the contrary.

You guys look as foolish as the democrats who called Bush Hitler.

Mar 6, 2009 - 12:11 pm 186. William:

I for one is ready for the ” I’m MAD as hell and I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! ” campaign.

Mar 6, 2009 - 12:13 pm 187. The Creator:

you kkkonservative cockkksuckers are kkkrazy. Nothing is EVER your fault. Ever.

STFU.

Mar 6, 2009 - 12:15 pm 188. Dr. Benway:

I feel like Brad Pitt in “Se7en” — Do Roger and his cheerleaders have any idea of how insane and irrational they are? I mean, like they’re honest-to-G-D, certifiable, f#ing crazy? I have forwarded this article. Keep up the good work of ensuring another Dem victory in ‘12!

Mar 6, 2009 - 12:15 pm 189. johnmorrissey:

it would be interesting to ask O the question “has he or anyone on his staff communicated with Bill Ayers in the last month”Under oath.

Mar 6, 2009 - 12:30 pm 190. ajacksonian:

I supported Bush on the war and complained about his social programs and his spendthrift ways on the budget and dested his bailout concepts… and wrote about each at the time. Often multiple times.

Bush does not have sole ownership of the problem as the ’social good’ of the CRA goes back to Jimmy Carter and I have noted that no one worked to repeal that or its noxious follow-ons in the ’90s mandating that a percentage of loans go out to those unable to readily finance them. Democratically endorsed and passed, and then Republicans did not repeal the damned thing when they were in the majority. Even worse is that those mandates are still in place and no one, today, wants to repeal them… so, yes, I have written about that, do detest it and say so multiple times. The question is not about placing past blame: the guilty have and will walk free and their ideas were promoted by those wanting to move away from sound lending practices.

The amount of debt piled up in a few weeks is astounding and the size of the budget the largest seen as a percentage of GDP since WWII and we are *not* in anything like that sort of disaster. FDR’s spending practices and strange forms of trade relationships did not end the Great Depression and, in fact, killed the recovery that had started to take place in 1937. You cannot spend your way to fiscal solvency, especially when taxing an economy that is already floundering. These are known facts, and can be looked up in multiple economic analyses papers and books about the Great Depression. Worse still is that ‘temporary’ programs put in during WWII to subsidize health insurance were not repealed after the war as it was only meant to address a war time shortage of workers… caused by social security and mandatory retirement during wartime in a global conflict. These two ill-designed beasts are still destroying our future ability to be solvent, and it does not help one tiny bit that the federal debt is being piled higher as we go along.

I have deep and abiding problems with how Hamiltonians have gotten into bed with Big Governmentites on the Left and Right, and we now pay for their beloved notion of a vigorous presence of the government in the marketplace. The Federal Reserve screwed up to help cause the problem of the Great Depression and it has done so *again* to help cause and worsen this recession. I would gladly accept some more frequent rough’n'tumble in the economy and keep government from ‘helping’ out by making things worse.

There are ways out that no one bothers to mention. Give each American Citizen a share in each company we ‘help’ and let them pay us back directly, and get the damned politics out of it. In no time at all the out of work analysts would spend a bit of spare time examining these companies and determining just how healthy they really are and then we could trade those shares based on different analyses. Instead of having money go back to government, have it come back to those folks paying the bills: the American Citizen. And watch the companies wanting a free hand-out suddenly walk away as they would be terrified of having to answer to the general public for their fiscal ability as the money they owe would not be to the government but to the largest class-action lawsuit that we can have… and the well run ones might just ask us if they could convert those to investment shares instead of debt holdings, and we could determine what the best route for each of us would be or just sell our single shares if we don’t want that problem.

I no longer trust this government or the organs of it in the financial area to do anything right. Give us all a holding in Freddie and Fannie and the Federal Reserve and privatize it to the American Citizens, and let them have to put up a real board to get things done.

But no one will suggest *that* as it requires government to give up power and entrust it with the American People.

And that tells me much about this elected government and how it feels about us, without exception.

Mar 6, 2009 - 12:36 pm 191. Rubicon:

Perhaps most distressing is that we have numerous politicians & their suspiciously influential special interest group allies to thank for this mess. Government interfered with our economic system, then it did not push regulation of it when warned to do so (remember Barney Frank accusing those seeking regulation of Fannie & Freddie accusing those seeking regulation as racists & haters of common people?).
We face an economic meltdown. With it, we have a government inclined to think “IT” must use its power to keep us in line. They told us Bush was dangerous cause he wanted to listen in on terrorists phone calls. Obama may be moreso dangerous since he wants to control us economically. After he has destroyed the economy & made us all third world citizens, it looks like he’s the one who could be the dictator. For many & based on his inept actions, it really does look like he’s trying to create a new third world country w/ him at its head. Maybe Obama will show liberals what fascism really looked like under the National Socialists of Germany! It was the left who went fascist, NOT the right.
But hey, he wants to be “fair.”

Mar 6, 2009 - 12:48 pm 192. sarainitaly:

This seems to support the pink theory:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/03/bingo_call_it_communism_1.html

http://www.cpusa.org/article/archive/147/

Mar 6, 2009 - 12:52 pm 193. Stacy:

This thread has been good for about 20 minutes worth of laughs. As a former Republican, it’s also kind of sad in a way. If all ‘conservatives’ acted like they cared the past 8 years, we would never be in this mess, and Obama never would have been elected. Nice job. Freaks.

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:02 pm 194. Paine in the Thomas:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This is inspired lunacy on the level of Monty Python at their best. Keep up the good work, we can all use a laugh.

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:08 pm 195. mark:

You may have written the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a very long time. Currently the only thing holding up a number of the appointments are single senator holds by various republican Senators. Perfectly fine, and as someone would say, that’s inside baseball and retaliation for the Democrat foot dragging in 2001.

I’m already getting tired of the whole socialist and Communist chestnut. Go look at the liberals of the 70s and tell me how Obama is more radical than them, he’s not, Tell me how he’s more radical than the center right parties in Europe? He’s not. In fact, I’d say that he’s be to the right of most of the center right parties in Europe.

More importantly, by descending into this flamebait stupidity, you’re driving more and more moderates into the Democrat fold. Of course, in the echo chamber that has been Set up by the Republican party, you’re all noisily cheering yourselves into irrelevancy.

Open your mind, you’re calcifying and being left behind. The worst part about it? Even if Obama Epic fails, the moderates won’t turn to the Republican party without some willingness for the Republican party to come back from the wilderness and back into the mainstream.

In the meantime I’ll continue looking for a conservative libertarianish movement that isn’t too busy looking to purify themselves to the size of the Green party.

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:09 pm 196. ken in sc:

I think Obama’s actions are the result of well meaning incompetence—which can be the worst kind. Think of Jimmy Carter, if you are old enough to remember him.

To all those pro-Obama people who keep throwing Bush at us, lay off. We were not in the tank for Bush the way you are for Obama. Many of the things you didn’t like about him, we didn’t either.

To all those who say Obama is a socialist, communist, Leninist, Stalinist, lay off. Most people under 50 these days don’t know what those words mean. Use some other word like the Borg or Matrix that they may understand. He is leading us in that direction, perhaps without meaning to.

We are living in dangerous and interesting times.

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:18 pm 197. Stacy:

“it would be interesting to ask O the question “has he or anyone on his staff communicated with Bill Ayers in the last month”Under oath.”

Good lord. I hope that is an attempt at satire.

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:19 pm 198. Drerw:

Roger
You bowtied twit. You and your fellow incompetents left Obama with a broken economy and now are crying because he is delivering on the agenda he promised and Americans voted for. Its called Democracy, remember taht term? Its what you guys tried to export to the middle east.
Anyway, where were you guys when the GOP was in charge and American workers wages were stagnating and the banking mess was underway? America has been hemorrhaging jobs for more than 15 months, and its Obama’s fault?
The one thing I will say this for all you pansy ass Republicans, you are consistent in never being responsible for anything. Put your tinfoil caps back on and let some responsible people try to fix the mess you created. Beat off to your picture of Palin,listen to Rush, and blame it on Democrats.

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:27 pm 199. USNCPO:

Obama’s predecessor secretly invoked the power to suspend the First and Fourth Amendments for seven years, authorized the seizure and torture of American citizens, launched two decade-long wars of attrition, doubled the national debt, presided over the worst financial bubble since the 1930s, provided the weakest level of economic growth in decades, and left the US in the grip of the steepest depression since the 1930s. But after five weeks, it’s Obama who should be impeached? Ooookaaaay.
Andrew Sullivan, in response. He’s right.

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:32 pm 200. Ricky Bobby:

Satire? We don’t need no stinking satire!

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:34 pm 201. Svensker:

You people are all nuts. Changing the top marginal rate from 36% to 39.5% is socialism? Trying to fix George Bush’s mess is socialism?

No wonder I left the Republican Party in 2003. When Rush and Sarah are the sanest and smartest you’ve got, you know you’re the party of dumb and dumber. Crikey.

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:35 pm 202. SCOTT:

Okay all you sports fans: George Bush is no longer in office; Barack Obama is. Bush did make his share of mistakes, but now it’s Obama making them. Who do you think is more of a threat now, Bush or Obama?

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:38 pm 203. SCOTT:

@186. I’ll second that, William.

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:43 pm 204. buddy larsen:

So, let me read between the lines, we stick with mark-to-market awhile longer?

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:49 pm 205. filmex:

This is the biggest collection of wingnuts seen in some time. Any chance of getting all of you together in one room so one flush can take care of the lot?

And isn’t the wingnut-bowtie a bit much of a Little Lord Fauntleroy cliche at this point?

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:51 pm 206. Nightly Ramble:The “Boy am I looking forward to spring”edition | BitsBlog:

[...] today: Paul Krugman says Obama’s killing the Dow by dithering. So the question keeps coming up: Incompetence or malevolence? Either way, that people are asking is a bad sign [...]

Mar 6, 2009 - 2:05 pm 207. mgordon:

Kimball, you should really quit drinking Lysol. It’s starting to give you brain damage.

Mar 6, 2009 - 2:07 pm 208. buddy larsen:

This is why Cramer, among others, wants a special prosecuter. He wants to know who was doing the coordinated, sequential short selling that in a half dozen trading days in early September exceeded normal short volumes by ten times, and drove the big banks & broker/dealers down as much as 70%. Most economists say that this is the point where the damage passed from Wall to Main street and began the slf-referential spiral down that is among other things disappearing yourparent’s retirements, and creating so much unemployment that labor will have little to bargain wages with. If you folks could stop braying insults long enough, you might could learn enough about something to at least protect your own interests. And/or how to make an argument (sneers and ridicules ain’t, they’re just a waste of time and make u look dum).

Mar 6, 2009 - 2:12 pm 209. Steve C:

You are totally awesome, don’t ever stop. Get this man a radio show! More please!

Mar 6, 2009 - 2:25 pm 210. unseen:

Impeachment will not work. It is time that we use the third branch of gov. We have a slim majority in the SCOTUS. The bailout is unconsitutional. a health czar checking everyone’s health records. Last time I looked illegal search and seizure. the rep party forgot the consiution in the last 8 years so it may take some time for them to remember it. The consitution is the greatest weapon we have. Even the military swear an oath to protect and defend that document. Not to protect the President but the document on which the country stands.
How do avg citizens begin the process of filing cases in federal court. Any taxpayer has standing.

Mar 6, 2009 - 2:25 pm 211. Tiparillo:

It would be interesting to ask johnmorrissey the quesiton “does your mom dress and tie your shoes for you daily.” Under oath.

Seriously, are the deadenders still on the phony Ayers story? Zombie lies of the Right never die, they just rattle around in the echo chamber.

@190 Ken in SC – most of the people using the terms Marxist, Leninist, or Communist don’t understand what these terms mean – obviously.

Mar 6, 2009 - 2:27 pm 212. fixerupper:

I’ll echo post #110

CLOWARD-PIVEN

Deliberately causing or fanning a crisis to such an extent that the government seizes control of institutions with the acquiescence of the panicked populace.

I REALLY wish more was discussed on this “philosophy” in the public forums, but I also realize it smacks a little of “tin-foil-hattery”…..

Mar 6, 2009 - 2:52 pm 213. G. Clark:

I notice how almost none of the leftists spamming this board now are defending Obama’s policies. They are just calling names and trashing Bush. Fine on that last bit. GWB was an awful president. But, if the word has any meaning, he was not a conservative. Not even close to one.

@211 Typical tactic of the left: just call something a lie without ever showing it to be so. I suppose you’ll be telling us next that Obama never even heard of his ‘preacher’ Jeremiah Wright.

Mar 6, 2009 - 2:56 pm 214. trangbang68:

Dang from about #167 on there is a sudden influx of Obama buttboys. Is it smoke break at your therapy session? Did the Welfare office on the east coast just close? Did George Soros send you a coded message through your fillings? Did that crack all wear off at the same time? Or are you all just a bunch of fools who could care less about the economy because you live in your mom’s basement?

Mar 6, 2009 - 3:06 pm 215. trangbang68:

Tiparillo,
I always wondered what the name of Monica Lewinsky’s cigar was.

Mar 6, 2009 - 3:07 pm 216. vivo:

153. trangbang68:

“vivo, Uh, Richard Kimball is not the writer of this piece.”

I realized that after I sent it. It started with an R. Glad you picked it. Are you still flapping your wings and running around?

Mar 6, 2009 - 3:28 pm 217. Evil Pundit:

I was wondering when the Obots would show up.

They’re scared, all right. That’s why they’re filling this thread with bile and distractions.

Mar 6, 2009 - 3:34 pm 218. allheavens:

Just a bunch of windy lickers riding on the tard cart waiting for your Republican nannies to come and wipe the spittle from your gaping mouths after giving Rush a collective blowjob.

You people are truly delusional and in deep, deep denial. Hey Roger, I guess carrying that water for BushCo never gets old.

And please stop using the Marxist, Leninist and communist descriptives if you don’t know what they mean. You are just playing yourselves…no probably playing WITH yourselves.

Mar 6, 2009 - 3:38 pm 219. artark:

As usual, you don’t have a clue. Nor do most of these yips who actually think you make sense.

Mar 6, 2009 - 4:16 pm 220. johnmorrissey:

perhaps tiparillo will enlighten all of us as to why the Ayers story is “phony”Obama lied or dissembled every time he was asked about Ayers.”just a guy in the neighborhood, our kids went to the same school.”Obamas kids weren t born in the nineties when he was on boards with Ayers.Ayers kids are now in their thirties.His excuse for being on the Education Challenge board with Ayers and awarding funds only to Communist/Radical groups…”Well this money was from Walter Annenberg, you know , he was a friend of Ronald Reagan.”Note the elliptical answer.The listener is to assume that somehow Annenberg, who was in fact dead at the time, approved of the way Obama and Ayers doled out the dough.Only anIQ 85 idiot would buy that explanation.Fortunately for Obama,thats the standard profile of MSM journalists.Jermiah Wright,Bill Ayers,Shaliqi all birds of a feather with Obama.The only thing phony about the story is the idea that Ob spent all his life rolling in the radical mud with would be revolutionaries who hate this country and somehow is a true lover of this country.Do you think that a dedicated radical terrorist like Ayers would spend his entire life trying to overthrow this country and then not try to use his connection with POTUS?

Mar 6, 2009 - 4:27 pm 221. johnmorrissey:

as i think about”tiparillos ” comments on my post , it dawns on me, I must have hit a nerve.The standard radical response when you get near the truth is to make a personal attack.There must be more to the idea that Ayers is communicating with Obama by e mail than I thought.Can anyone think of a way to raise the issue to greater visibility?

Mar 6, 2009 - 4:38 pm 222. John:

Dear sir,

Where to you purchase your crack? I am looking to get knocked out of my skull, and judging from this piece, it appears that you have found the El Dorado of drugs. Hoping you can help?

Mar 6, 2009 - 4:59 pm 223. Mike S:

Last time I looked illegal search and seizure. the rep party forgot the consiution in the last 8 years so it may take some time for them to remember it. The consitution is the greatest weapon we have.

Priceless. You do remember that Dear Leader Bush suspended the 1st and 4th Amendments, right?

This is what I love about you idiot wingnuts. You live an irony free existance. Thankfully, the rest of the country sees right through your silly asses now.

Mar 6, 2009 - 5:03 pm 224. MikeD:

The Kos children have arrived. You can tell because it has started to smell a lot like an outhouse.

Mar 6, 2009 - 5:20 pm 225. The Historian:

EVEN THE NEW DEAL WASN’T THIS FAR LEFT
The economy is off the rails and going forward, Obama will own it completely.

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/03/america-has-far-left-president.html

Mar 6, 2009 - 5:46 pm 226. johnmorrissey:

It never fails.The handbook for lefties is ” always go with personal attacks and nasty remarks, avoid the substance of the issue at all costs.Repeat the lies if possible but don t debate any issue on merits.So “tiparillo” and “John” avoid the Ayers -Obama issue and throw insults instead. It means we are on to something.The more the insults and the nastier the closer we are to a truth they don t want to hear”.John” jumping in to help “tiparilo” proves the point.

Mar 6, 2009 - 5:57 pm 227. trangbang68:

Okay whose turn next at the community center computer? Allheavens, I have to give you the prize for stupidest ,most vulgar mindless comments. Not to mention its your side that has all the guys who specialize in fellatio. You might be married to one yourself if you live in California.
Vivo, I don’t have wings there, chicken chest. How about you?

Mar 6, 2009 - 6:22 pm 228. buddy larsen:

fixerupper @ #212; it’s not tin foil hattery at all. Cloward and Piven were standing on the stage behind Bill Clinton when he signed ‘motor-voter’ –a signing which signaled the death of traditional American “neighborly” elections.

BDS is a Cloward-Piven too, BTW, operating not on social or civil services but on the electorate’s psychological reserves. Idea is to overload the voter’s nerves with constant demonstrations, in media and person to person, of anger, bitterness, & unreason, to the point that the target voter surrenders in return for the chance at some peace and civil behavior in the public square. Condensed as “rule or ruin”, it’s closely related to the theme of Lincoln’s “house divided” speech.

Mar 6, 2009 - 6:32 pm 229. Bill:

“the size of the budget the largest seen as a percentage of GDP since WWII”

The project budget during Obama’s term right now is the same as Reagan’s at 22% of GDP. This is another in the outright lies told about the budget.

Obama’s top marginal tax rate will be 39%. Only 7 times from 1932 to 2002 was it lower than that. His rate is hardly outrageous. For 40+ of those year it was over 70%.

This is most unhinged, least factual site I’ve seen in a long time. Its no wonder the Republican party has totally blown up with this nonsense taking most of its air.

Hopefully Newt Gingrich can right this ship. The first thing he needs to do is throw everyone here off of it.

Mar 6, 2009 - 6:47 pm 230. johnmorrissey:

the left wins when we sink to their level and throw insults.They are better at insults than we are.That is all they know how to do., and they are pathetic trying to argue issues, so make them stick to issues.Read all the posts above.There is not a single one from a lefty which tries to argue a point.They either resort to personal invective or blame it all on Bush.Ignore them, they are pathetic.

Mar 6, 2009 - 7:14 pm 231. Patricia A. Helvenston:

Communist radio show host, Stephanie MIller advocated the assasination of Rush Limbaugh on Larry King Live. Larry let the comment pass. I say, the fact that a communist can advocate the assassination of Rush without any repercussions, means that conservatives can advocate the assassination of Obama and his entire government without any repercussions. A million man armed citizenry should march on Washington to assassinate Obama, which is every bit as legitimate as assassinating Rush. Is there anyone out there who actually believes that Stephanie will be charged with treason, but millions of American citizens will be tortured, arrested, put into concentration camps, murdered and worse by Obama and his Nazi supporters? I say we kill them before they kill us.

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:00 pm 232. hh:

Mr. Kimball, Get some smarter friends or ignore what your current ones say.

Your post? FAIL

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:49 pm 233. Steve:

I have to say, the number of people talking about ‘True Americans’ or ‘True Patriots’ here scares me. Very little good comes of people talking about True Anything, when it’s used to categorize people, no matter who is using the term. It almost always boils down to the True _______ being ‘people who agree with me’.

Personally, I’m on the left. I feel like Obama is doing a decent job of dealing with this crisis, at least as well as anyone could be expected to. I can’t say I like the amount of debt being taken on, but if the Great Depression is a workable analogue for this current recession (and I feel that it is), precedent dictates that although this spending won’t be an instant fix, it’ll help keep us from spiralling downwards (as it did in the years of the Hoover administration, due to an extreme hands-off policy).

There are logical arguments for actions such as tax cuts as a response to get us out of this current situation. However, these policies didn’t work as well as some have promised in the past 8 years (and despite the fact it was excessive deregulation, not tax cuts that got us into this mess), so economic control passed to another strategic viewpoint, that is, Keynesian economics.

I won’t pretend that Obama is going to be 100% successful. That’s a ludicrous promise. I do argue, however, that you’re throwing about the labels of Communist and Radical far too easily (and the occassional cry of ‘Nazi’, and while I understand that’s not in reference to Fascism, there’s probably better choices of words), and that there’s a lot of selective perception to arrive at preconceived notions (though good luck finding anyone on the planet who doesn’t do that).

And since the Ayers thing seems to be a pretty popular discussion topic at the moment, I think people read too much into that. Yeah, Ayers did a terrible thing. I won’t condone it. But it’s not like that’s going to be the sole aspect of his personality. He is, despite what he did, a human being, with all that entails. I don’t find it too hard to imagine that he and Obama had some disagreements; everyone does.

As for the Rev. Wright thing (I doubt I’ll post here again, mostly because I only found this through a link, and probably won’t see one again), I also give Obama the benefit of the doubt on that one. From what I’ve read, it sounds pretty much like he went spontaneously berserk when he was suddenly thrust into the national spotlight. Obama’s defense of him early on, (while still stating that Wright was not normally like that), was pretty much based on the fact that abandoning your pastor/priest/what-have-you, is something that people really aren’t naturally inclined to do; we’d have more cause for suspicion (I feel), if he’d immediately denounced him (because that’d indicate that attending that church wasn’t true).

In the end, Obama is a human being, with all that that entails. He is neither as good as the worshippers portray him, or as bad as people here seem to believe. He’s just another person doing the best the can, as best they know how.

Mar 6, 2009 - 9:29 pm 234. trangbang68:

Calm down Patricia.You’re hyping the rhetoric up a little high there, girl. This is an internet forum. You need to take a deep breath and get your bearings.

Mar 6, 2009 - 10:43 pm 235. zanerx:

Thank you, wingnuts! Reading your mindless drivel has been immensely entertaining. Please do not find an empty county in Montana and secede; we would miss your foaimng at the mouth greatly!

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:10 pm 236. The Sphere of Market Capitalism Might Narrow « Just Above Sunset:

[...] But on the far right, of course, Roger Kimball disagrees: [...]

Mar 7, 2009 - 12:17 am 237. Fred:

It’s important to be open minded on this issue, but let’s make sure everything is backed up with facts and documentation. Some of the comments attached to this post are starting to sound like ODS–”Obama Derangement Syndrome”.

Mar 7, 2009 - 12:46 am 238. Mike S:

231. Patricia A. Helvenston:

Communist radio show host, Stephanie MIller advocated the assasination of Rush Limbaugh on Larry King Live. Larry let the comment pass. I say, the fact that a communist can advocate the assassination of Rush without any repercussions, means that conservatives can advocate the assassination of Obama and his entire government without any repercussions. A million man armed citizenry should march on Washington to assassinate Obama, which is every bit as legitimate as assassinating Rush. Is there anyone out there who actually believes that Stephanie will be charged with treason, but millions of American citizens will be tortured, arrested, put into concentration camps, murdered and worse by Obama and his Nazi supporters? I say we kill them before they kill us.

There you have it, folks. That is what you sad pieces of shit have become. Give it your best shot, Patty. Because if you sad people try that shit with me you’ll find yourself broken and bloddy.

Or the Secret Service will come take you away.

What say you, Roger Kimball? Do you advocate the assassination of the President?

Mar 7, 2009 - 2:56 am 239. buddy larsen:

http://www.zazzle.com/i_miss_w_bumper_sticker-128323334916925836

Mar 7, 2009 - 4:20 am 240. Roger Kimball:

I always know when Andrew Sullivan links to one of my posts, because there is an immediate decline in manners accompanied by a notable uptick in ad hominem attacks and rude comments about bow-ties. No. 167 above is a representative specimen–“You are a moron. In a silly bow-tie.”–as is No. 198, which opens with the Demosthenean flourish “You bowtied twit.” Readers who wonder, as I do, at the power those little strips of silk have to enrage the politically correct may be interested in my reflection on the subject, occasioned by an earlier cataract of incontinent hysteria from those who attend Mr. Sullivan’s animadversions:

http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/04/15/announcing_the_society_for_the/

In any event, although the pathologist in me enjoys the hysteria, my inner rhetorician sighs at such lackluster philippic: really, chaps, you should be able to muster something more inventive in the way of abuse. It saddens me, too, to witness the occasional exhibition of insanity from the Right, exemplified by No. 231 above. Such intemperateness is neither amusing nor helpful, and I regret its occurrence.

Mar 7, 2009 - 5:15 am 241. buddy larsen:

Mr. Kimball, your style and content are chronically wise & delightful, despite the bow tie.

Re the markets, some are seeing everywhere a lack of comprehension as to the nature of capital and the future. “Hope & Change” seems to’ve come to signify “money” as a sort of harvest, which the village should divide equally.

Fine, that’s the political issue –but “money” is never the harvest. The harvest is “a living”. Money is a condition of the harvest’s creation –a valuable tool of a preparation which includes first the saving of the seed (not to have eaten it during the winter), then the work of plowing and planting, and the power to protect the results from all the forces of destruction.

So, sure, we should continue as before, systematically debating annually how to divide & share the harvest –but IF the goal is survival of the tribe, then the first principle has to be protection of the seed. Wastage, rot, fire, flood, theft, greed, hunger, many forces want to consume the future, they exist on a continuum with man at one end and weather on the other.

This isn’t politics, this is nature. The markets are part of nature, indelible parts in our nature, human nature.

What is upsetting folks who savvy all this (no matter in what terms; it’s ancient and gut –some will get it, others won’t, as always back thru time) is that the (not to have eaten it during the winter) applies to each & every year, since that no matter how many cycles the taboo is successfully observed, the belly-imperative is that it takes but the one breach to destroy the tribe –usually in the worst way.

The ruins of old civilizations are emblems in the stone of successes which failed to preserve themselves.

Not fantasy, but history –the real deal, just as real as today, in a different and utterly indifferent time.

Mar 7, 2009 - 6:09 am 242. buddy larsen:

Gold isn’t protein, but humans are. We need to understand that it’s only the idea that we should give certain values to both, that gives certain values to either.

If we are so determined to careen into anarchy, the rest of the world, already armed, arming more, & daily increasingly ready, is unlikely to wall us off, or allow us to wall ourselves off, and look the other way for long. Revenge, and the value of the beauty and utility of our vast spaces, our rivers and lakes, mountains and fertile plains, coasts and harbors and highways will be too much to hope for that.

The spectacle we have before us now, the spectacle we have placed before the world, is of vast bonfires of world history’s hard-won and critically needed knowledge & wealth going up in flames, and not due to sad but sinless nature, but due rather to the whim of acolytes of an abstract theory –actually an undetailed outline of a proposed abstract theory.

If this is how it must be, the discussion now should perhaps shift to whether we invite Mr. Putin in now, or after the ICBM launch.

I say, why not now –if the global crime syndicate has taken over, we might as well climb aboard a strong horse as fall off a Chicago donkey.

Mar 7, 2009 - 6:57 am 243. buddy larsen:

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/03/meltdown.html

Mar 7, 2009 - 7:40 am 244. Karen Miner Hurd:

I concur. Team Obama is deliberate. He and his ilk are exacting a revenge on the American people and the American system. Apparently a free Harvard education and becoming a millionaire while being a “public servant” wasn’t good enough. One doesn’t sit under the rantings of Jeremiah Wright, the Black nationalist preacher for *20 Years* without agreement. Obama will say anything, do anything to get what he wants. Look at his past actions.

The scary thing is that there is a significant entitlement culture to back him up. They are like mob style rioters who burn their own houses, and destroy their own livlihood. It’s revenge and destruction.

Mar 7, 2009 - 8:17 am 245. Trakker:

Having read Kimball’s post and the comments that agree with him, I can see why the right has collapsed. You had your chance to lead – and even build a permanent majority – and you blew it by supporting one of the most incompetent, unconservative Presidents ever, someone so embarrassing that historians the world over will use him as a benchmark for incompetence and its consequences. Now you are scared out of your gourds that a center-left Democrat will rescue the country and possible become one of the few great Presidents. I am sending this url to all my friends to show them how bankrupt and delusional the right has become.

Anyone who advocates impeaching a President five weeks after taking office, given the disaster that he inherited from your boy George, really needs to stop and start looking for the missing marbles.

Mar 7, 2009 - 9:26 am 246. Anna Lemma:

For years the Hollywood Left regaled us with TV series and movies in which an EEEEVIL corporate “Mr. Big” controlling billions of dollars sought to kill or crush anyone who stood between him and his plans to enslave or immiserate the rest of us — the “Take over the World” meme. (”Mr. Tubbs”, said one such biggie to show the “Miami Vice” hero his omniscience and vast reach, “you have exactly $667 in your bank account”.)

Then there’s the EEEEEVIL CIA hunting down anyone who might expose their EEEEEEVIL schemes to support the crushing and fascistic Big Brother State. (The Bourne Series), e,g,). Or the vicious McCarthyites savaging their political opponents as unpatriotic or dangerous.

Now comes Barack Obama, acting exactly as those villainous archetypes did, and where are the Hollywood players to expose the evil Man Behind the Curtain? They’re supporting him.

But I wonder: will the Wall Street moguls, Hollywood “players” and “old money” really allow Barack to destroy their wealth? Or do they plan to foment opposition to Barack and Michelle with an ultimate fate less to do with impeachment , than more along the lines of Mussolini and his mistress Clara Petacci?

Richard Nixon had to barricade himself the White House and its grounds with hundreds of commandeered city buses to discourage the milliion+ anti-war protesters on the Mall from dropping by for a friendly chat.

It could happen again.

Mar 7, 2009 - 9:46 am 247. Dr. T:

Democracy is being destroyed in favor of socialism. The problem with socialism, and there are many, is that it fails when it runs out of other people’s money to spend. At the current rate that could be 2010. Will we be able to stop it once it starts. We need to get the American people to see it now and not later. Blogging here does not help unless we get out there and involve the American people and our representatives now.
As for intent or incompetence. I believe it may be intent. It appears too well orchestrated. If we all get pulled down to nothing, he may believe that new wealth could rise out of the devestation. I’m not so sure.
As to if the people would resist, I cannot tell. Certainly the “liberal press” helped to put Obama in office and they are blindly still following. Unless we can convince or stop them it may be that Emoperor Obama can pull it off.

Mar 7, 2009 - 11:09 am 248. Pegasus66:

To fight an enemy effectively you have to know who is the enemy, what they want, and how they operate. Most of you have figured out how they operate. Some of you have partly figured out what they want: the destruction of the American economy and its “producers of wealth” . . . so that we can become part of Bush 41’s New World Order ( you weren’t listening back when he said that, but some of us knew what he was talking about). Aome of the “Who’s” will surprise you. They are not political party specific.
Look at the people around Obama, and those that were around W. They are unelected, come from major financial institutions and don’t seem very Constitution-minded.
We can theorize and pontificate = guess = or we can figure out how to stop this freight train before we are tied to the tracks. My first suggestion is to take Bernake’s computer away from him so he can’t create any more imaginary money. You watch, the next move will be to crash the dollar, similar to what was done to the Peso. In that instance, the wealty oligarchy that really rules Mexico liquidated all peso investments and purchased tangible items: art works, jewelry, land, precious metals – - then the government crashed the peso.
Here is an excerpt from a speech by Congressman Ron Paul, Neo-Conned, Address to The House of Representatives, July 10, 2003
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr71003.htm
“None of this happened by accident or coincidence. Precise philosophic ideas prompted certain individuals to gain influence to implement these plans. The neoconservatives – a name they gave themselves – diligently worked their way into positions of power and influence. They documented their goals, strategy and moral justification for all they hoped to accomplish. Above all else, they were not and are not conservatives dedicated to limited, constitutional government.
Neo-conservatism has been around for decades and, strangely, has connections to past generations as far back as Machiavelli. Modern-day neo-conservatism was introduced to us in the 1960s. It entails both a detailed strategy as well as a philosophy of government. The ideas of Teddy Roosevelt, and certainly Woodrow Wilson, were quite similar to many of the views of present-day neocons. Neocon spokesman Max Boot brags that what he advocates is ‘hard Wilsonianism.’ In many ways, there’s nothing ‘neo’ about their views, and certainly nothing conservative. Yet they have been able to co-opt the conservative movement by advertising themselves as a new or modern form of conservatism.
More recently, the modern-day neocons have come from the far left, a group historically identified as former Trotskyites. Liberal, Christopher Hitchens, has recently officially joined the neocons, and it has been reported that he has already been to the White House as an ad hoc consultant. Many neocons now in positions of influence in Washington can trace their status back to Professor Leo Strauss of the University of Chicago. One of Strauss’ books was Thoughts on Machiavelli. This book was not a condemnation of Machiavelli’s philosophy. Paul Wolfowitz actually got his PhD under Strauss. Others closely associated with these views are Richard Perle, Eliot Abrams, Robert Kagan, and William Kristol. All are key players in designing our new strategy of preemptive war. Others include: Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute; former CIA Director James Woolsey; Bill Bennett of Book of Virtues fame; Frank Gaffney; Dick Cheney; and Donald Rumsfeld. There are just too many to mention who are philosophically or politically connected to the neocon philosophy in some varying degree.
The godfather of modern-day neo-conservatism is considered to be Irving Kristol, father of Bill Kristol, who set the stage in 1983 with his publication Reflections of a Neoconservative. In this book, Kristol also defends the traditional liberal position on welfare.”

You really should pull up the whole speech as he goes on the list what Neocons actually believe in.

Mar 7, 2009 - 11:21 am 249. If only she were First Lady | Cold Fury:

[...] Hell, no. Hope you’re pleased with what you got instead: Jefferson’s “reign of (Leninist) [...]

Mar 7, 2009 - 12:07 pm 250. Mandy:

Has Kimball’s wife removed their children from the orbit of thier obviously deranged (and possibly dangerous) father?

Mar 7, 2009 - 12:21 pm 251. buddy larsen:

We know what to do to start turning the banks around, which will start turning the markets around, which will start turning the housing and unemployment around, we know that ‘time’ is eating us alive, so WHAT are we waiting for?

Mar 7, 2009 - 12:31 pm 252. Mike S:

Looks like Roger Kimball condones the assasination of the President. Why else would he whine about Sullivan and his readers yet not mention Patritia Halverston’s call for said assasination?

Such a patriotic man this Roger Kimball is.

Mar 7, 2009 - 12:36 pm 253. Mike S:

Actually he did mention it. So I was mistaken. However this:

It saddens me, too, to witness the occasional exhibition of insanity from the Right, exemplified by No. 231 above. Such intemperateness is neither amusing nor helpful, and I regret its occurrence.

is about as weak an answer he could have given. A commenter on his site calls for the assasination of the President and the murder of millions of citizens and the best he can do is offer his regrets.

Mar 7, 2009 - 12:44 pm 254. buddy larsen:

Here’s the Sydney Morning Herald story.

Mar 7, 2009 - 1:18 pm 255. Roger’s Rules » Traveling down the road to serfdom:

[...] a couple of days ago in this space, I asked whether President Obama’s spectacular mishandling of the economy was a function of his [...]

Mar 7, 2009 - 1:38 pm 256. nancy l sutton:

I have read over 100 of the other blogs/comments regarding O and his handling of this country’s problems. I was fearful when he was campaigning and subsequently elected, but now I am just plain sick and truly disheartened. How do we rise up and say “NO MOEE”? We have an election coming up in California at which time I intend to vote out everyone who is an incumbent in the hope that the next one’s in display some honesty and compassion for the rest ‘OF THE PEOPLE’and truly work ‘FOR THE PEOPLE’.

In addition, just how many people have been put back to work as a result of any of the bailout/stimulus $$$? And would the state and federal legislators agree to have the 6 figure salaries and perks and entitlements cut by the unemployment percentage rate?

Mar 7, 2009 - 2:42 pm 257. Brian H:

http://poll.pollcode.com/tdCo

Is Obama
Deliberately destroying America?
Inadvertantly destroying America?
A bumbler America will survive?
A Man of Good Will America will Survive?
A brilliant new guide for America?

Mar 7, 2009 - 4:41 pm 258. MikeD:

Mike S you are right, commenters here should not call for the assassination of the President. Of course, if it happened many of us wouldn’t much give a shit.

Mar 7, 2009 - 8:06 pm 259. buddy larsen:

jeez, MikeD, don’t get him all lathered up again –he’ll start speechifyin’ –”You dirty no good sob, i said i wanted more civility on this blog!”

Mar 7, 2009 - 8:31 pm 260. zanerx:

Did #231 commit a felony?

Mar 7, 2009 - 10:07 pm 261. VietnamSFC:

Ah, so this is where the folks who thought Bush was a great president hang out. That’s the oft-unnoted implication of the average IQ being 100…someone has to make up that 22 percent at the bottom.

Mar 8, 2009 - 1:11 am 262. Obama’s Dangerous Incompetence « Cliftonchadwick’s Blog:

[...] Dangerous Incompetence By cliftonchadwick Writing a couple of days ago in this space, I asked whether President Obama’s spectacular mishandling of the economy was a function of his [...]

Mar 8, 2009 - 7:41 am 263. acj:

Hear, hear! To the power of the bow tie!

Mar 8, 2009 - 8:06 am 264. NWMA:

barak hussian obama.

The name says it all, doesn’t it?

He is a communist traitor. So are the sons of bitches that do his bidding.

It is time for another revolution.

Oh wait, that’s racist….. sorry

Mar 8, 2009 - 10:29 am 265. dan:

I think people should consider the possibility that for all Obama & Co. may believe they are going to be the organizers and fructifiers of American Perestroika, think of it this way:

Obama himself may not be a Leninist, but the fruit of Leninist planning. His purpose is not to create the USSA, it is simply *to destroy* the USA. Obama himself probably doesn’t intend to destroy the USA; he has been duped into believing he can do it and “helpd along the way” (promoted for his useful idiocy) until he’s in the position where his incompetence at a time of crisis will doom the most powerful nation ever.

In the Foundations of Leninism – which ALL of you should read, it’s only about 100 pages long – Stalin in 1924 quoted Lenin as saying “there will be revolution when the lower classes no longer want to live in the old ways, and the upper classes are no longer *able* to.”

So what do you do? Destroy the wealth, “nationalize it,” but slowly enough that you can string out the little people with promises of free health care, pensions, all the blandishments of equality until – the lower classes no longer *want* to live in the old ways, they want the new “change” ways, and thus they become a true weapon of Socialism.

Just a “daring blow” or two – in Trotsky’s phrase – from serious catastrophe, or will be in 6 or 9 months. Get ready.

Mar 8, 2009 - 2:38 pm 266. sule:

Barry has even bigger enemies in his own tribe…Sharpton and Jackson hotly resent a man who was never “down” with the 60’s marches, who now enjoys the fruits of that movement with the job that they tried for themselves.

If anything happens, it won’t have come from the placid millions who endured a strutting Marxist lie and buy his way into the White House.

Mar 8, 2009 - 2:56 pm 267. zanerx:

This all just gets funnier! It appears that you all are the last remnants of the conservative movement in this country, lost in your fantasies of revolution and bizarre love for a president (OK – probably the vice president) who actually, in the words of Seth Myers, “broke the country,” in addition to granting himself dictatorial powers while in the midst of the stupidest geopolitical action in American history (excepting, maybe, the 1861 secessions, with which it appears many of you identify). Y’all are the gift that keeps on giving!

Mar 8, 2009 - 8:11 pm 268. Rivenburg:

Obama is purposefully breaking the American middle class. It started under Bill Clinton and continues today. They figured out they cant get the weapons away from us as long as we have our pioneering spirit, the plan is to teach our kids crap so they are useless idiots, then take all the wealth out of American society. They believe a poor America will a broken spirited one, and at this point they will try another Brady bill. Once the American people no longer are armed, these scum can do anything they want since they will control the worlds most powerful military.
The first weapon to be made illegal under this regime will probably be the big Barret .50’s.

Mar 9, 2009 - 6:22 am 269. Flip:

If we find that clever legal talent to start impeachment proceedings, I will give every penny I can afford to the legal fund. Lets hope there are some brave Americans who’ll take up the cause. I also think that the “impeachment” buzz should start catching fire within the blogaspheres. This man is not an empty suit, he has a deliberate and well thought out plan, and all the help he needs to accomplish it.

I think people should consider the possibility that for all Obama & Co. may believe they are going to be the organizers and fructifiers of American Perestroika, think of it this way:

Obama himself may not be a Leninist, but the fruit of Leninist planning. His purpose is not to create the USSA, it is simply *to destroy* the USA. Obama himself probably doesn’t intend to destroy the USA; he has been duped into believing he can do it and “helpd along the way” (promoted for his useful idiocy) until he’s in the position where his incompetence at a time of crisis will doom the most powerful nation ever.

In the Foundations of Leninism – which ALL of you should read, it’s only about 100 pages long – Stalin in 1924 quoted Lenin as saying “there will be revolution when the lower classes no longer want to live in the old ways, and the upper classes are no longer *able* to.”

So what do you do? Destroy the wealth, “nationalize it,” but slowly enough that you can string out the little people with promises of free health care, pensions, all the blandishments of equality until – the lower classes no longer *want* to live in the old ways, they want the new “change” ways, and thus they become a true weapon of Socialism.

Obama is purposefully breaking the American middle class. It started under Bill Clinton and continues today. They figured out they cant get the weapons away from us as long as we have our pioneering spirit, the plan is to teach our kids crap so they are useless idiots, then take all the wealth out of American society. They believe a poor America will a broken spirited one, and at this point they will try another Brady bill. Once the American people no longer are armed, these scum can do anything they want since they will control the worlds most powerful military.
The first weapon to be made illegal under this regime will probably be the big Barret .50’s.

barak hussian obama.

The name says it all, doesn’t it?

He is a communist traitor. So are the sons of bitches that do his bidding.

It is time for another revolution.

Oh wait, that’s racist….. sorry

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Reposted above are four actual comments from people on this website. You people are absolutely nuts. Do you REALLY believe all this? Do you understand that this makes you sound just like the “Kos kiddies” you ridicule so regularly? I just don’t get it. You REALLY think Obama is a Socialist who is deliberately trying to destroy America? REALLY?

I’m not even going to touch the woman (231) who wants to get a militia to storm Washington or something. Good luck with that.

Look, it takes all kinds, and you’re entitled to whatever opinion you like, but remember what you thought about all of the lefties who were equating Bush to Hitler? Well, now you sound just as nutty as they did. Congratulations.

Mar 9, 2009 - 10:19 am 270. sule:

Answer to ——- question:

No, I don’t think Barry is a socialist. I think Barry is a Marxist.

And an angry, dangerous, easily led DOPE with HOPE for me to CHANGE my belief that he’s THE ONE WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR to turn America into what Marx, Lenin and Stalin tried with the Soviet Union and failed, to the dismay of about 50 million or so dead.

But who’s counting.

Mar 9, 2009 - 11:09 am 271. trangbang68:

Hey #267 you spelled your prescription name wrong; that’s why you can’t get a refill. Your “Bush granted himself dictatorial powers” would be a howler if it didn’t make you look like a total idiot. His dictatorial powers must be why we had a smooth transition of power, genius. You ought to try actually studying history before postulating.
While anyone calling for violence against elected officials including the president is repugnant; you lefties are such glaring hypocrites on the issue, no one cares what you say.
Nicholas Baker wrote a book praised by the NY Times plotting the assassination of Bush. How many other media whores and third rate talkers like Randi Rhodes and crap comedians advocated openly harm to the president. In Portland, hard left cockroaches burned an American soldier in effigy and in other cities assaulted soldiers. So your selective outrage is falling on deaf ears.
Your prescription is spelled x-a-n-a-x. Get it filled, please.

Mar 9, 2009 - 1:48 pm 272. lennon:

you people are hilarious! obama’s been president for seven weeks! bush was president for eight years! are you capable of rationality? do you think, just maybe, whatever was wrong with your judgment for rendering you incapable of criticizing bush for however long, is now manifesting as paranoia that obama is a leninist?

Mar 9, 2009 - 3:05 pm 273. mark:

I think the right wing forgot the fundamental rule. anything sufficiently far to the right ends up on the left. They’re no longer the right wing conservative movement, they’re now left wing revolutionary radicals. Personally I think the right wing and left wing extremists who hate America should go get together and talk about how awful America is now.

Welcome to the Fringes: where the right and left become indistinguishable, unified by their hatred of what America is.

Mar 9, 2009 - 3:32 pm 274. jommy:

What a bunch of outlying fruitcakes the Republicasn Party is becoming. Steele, Speaker Newt, Limbo, Cantor, Boehne, the party is cracking under the pressure. I left a few years ago and will never identify as such again.

Mar 9, 2009 - 5:45 pm 275. jommy:

What ave you been smoking Rivenburg?

>> It started under Bill Clinton and continues today.

Bill Clinton governed conservatively with surpluses. He is the only president in modern times to submit balanced budgets!! In fact he left your buddy Bush a surplus!

Mar 9, 2009 - 5:49 pm 276. Patricia A:

Here’s Clinton’s real legacy:
1. a dozen or so illegal alien terrorists who infiltrated this country and flight trained right under the nose of his Justice Department and a ban on information sharing by the CIA and FBI – giving Bush 9/11;
2. A Justice Department that sued Chevy Chase Bank and a dozen others forcing them to make high risk home loans – giving Bush the collapse of the housing market.
3. The opinion that it’s a private matter to be serviced in the Oval Office on Easter Sunday.

Yeah, I suppose a balanced budget off-set all that.

Mar 9, 2009 - 7:18 pm 277. zanerx:

Hey #271, no extra stress relief needed here; laughter is the best medicine, and I’m getting a big enough dose reading these comments. And I’m no defender of anyone threatening a President; but it’s funny seeing you strain to compare people driven over the edge of good behavior by a President fradulently starting an unnecessary war with those driven to the same extreme by a 5% increase in the marginal tax rate. Both are wrong – it’s just that one is so ridiculous that one wonders if it isn’t just some weird type of satire.

BTW, read up on the recently released Bush Administration memos justifying the suspension of the First and Fourth Amendments, as well as the multitude of overreaching signing statements, before so casually dismissing Bush’s accumulation to himself of unconstitutional authority.

Mar 10, 2009 - 5:16 am 278. LFC:

The exact question is:who is this guy that came out of nowhere from a shady background, with obfuscated records and almost zero accomplishments to the POTUS and the check book of the national treasury?

George W. Bush.

Mar 10, 2009 - 12:09 pm 279. Clintonian Radicals « The United States of Jamerica:

[...] the Ayers-mania of that unhappy period, some of this talk is miles over-the-top – for instance, the absurdist speculation about the President’s “Leninist” plans to bring the U.S. economy to its knees, [...]

Mar 10, 2009 - 2:14 pm 280. Obama In Over His Head | Axis of Right:

[...] him to be.

Mar 11, 2009 - 8:36 pm 281. Obama cancels economic catastrophe! | The Anchoress:

[...] foreign policy gaffes left and right and he personally insulted our best ally. Some wonder if he is malevolent or simply inept. Some of his nominations are outright appalling. He cannot seat his cabinet or staff treasury. His [...]

Mar 12, 2009 - 7:06 pm 282. The Irascible Chef » Nevermind!:

[...] foreign policy gaffes left and right and he personally insulted our best ally. Some wonder if he is malevolent or simply inept. Some of his nominations are outright appalling or at least eyebrow raising. He cannot seat his [...]

Mar 13, 2009 - 9:36 am 283. patriot:

look at the line of succession.. essentially requiring a miliary-led coup to get away from the radical left economic destruction conspiracy plan ..Geithner even in on it… The sheep must get some brains in 2010 and radically vote these demoncrat scum out..despite the massive ACORN fraud that will dwarf even the past track record…

Mar 14, 2009 - 2:30 am 284. Brainy Smurf:

Are you serious here? Your ideas are totally paranoid and ridiculous!
Obama is doing great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mar 16, 2009 - 4:36 pm 285. Gaffe Prices:

I can prove that its both:

First, this all started 9 decades ago before Barry ever even met William Ayers or Franklin Davis, and before he was a gleam in anybody’s eye.
Second, All the dems in Congress knew they had lit a long fuse with the “CCommunnniittyy Re-Investive Re-Development Re-Moval and Re-Distributive Acts 1(cough- caterer administration- cough) and Act 2 (cough- clinton administration- cough).
3) But that fuse would soon enough be running short, and
4) Franklin Raines, pictured here, and Jaime Gorelick wrote checks for bonuses double their salaries, and took what was left in the cash register, and slipped out in cover of night before the roof started caving in.
All of this has been known to members of Congress for years, and with their *new* majority in congress (2 yrs ago) started covering it up big time with all the usual muscle hijackers Maxine, Franks and further, with Gregory Meeeeks, Cassius Clay, in house commerce ccommiittee-eeeee! (Dizzy yet?) “hearings” where they proceeded to brass knuckle every government banking regulator they could chloroform into the chambers, to give “transparency” (?!) to it. Hell, even Chris Dodd, who is in the senate, not the house for pete’s sake, jumped into the fray
5) the folks in Chicago were keeping close tabs, cause they <live for this stuff, especially Obama, who was an up and coming bagman for the whole Chicago operation.
6) they hatched the biggest and most expensive advertising campaign in history, to run interference for their co-pays back in Washington, and
7) Rounded every behind the scenes accessory they could find to take cabinet seats for further cover, like Herr Geithner, und Damen Gorelick.
started finishing off any every other form of opposition through “the millstones of high taxes and inflation”, in their efforts to cash out, or in on their initial $850,000 million dollar advertizing campaign investment because…
9) Because George Soros had nothing, I say nothing to do with it!, and he would be made the scapegoat by those knuckle dragging conspiracy peddlers
10) if you’re still reading this and seething with rage, not because of all this, but because of what Andrew Sullivan said, and you think he is dead-on right, then (it goes to:
11) You’re even stupider than these clowns who’ve been running the country, not to mention its economy, into the ground water since well before this administration took office.
12) If you don’t think these clowns aren’t engineering the(ir) (own) greatest political fall and scandal in history, not to mention felonies up to Mt Rushmore: you are the pluperfect fool the Obama ad campaign was counting on, and was targeted to.

So don’t be surprised, my little chickadees, if George Soros, the man who became a Nazi informant at the age of 9, and told said Nazi’s where they could find (other) Jews, because he knew all about it, is one day found guilty of treason and left hanging by his neck, for the buzzards to feast on, like Mussolini, one of his many mentors, just like some (un)common criminal. Because… and this is the most NON-PARTISANLY OBJECTIVE WAY TO SAY IT-

this is the worst president, worst damned ministration, worst cabinet, worst congress, (assubhamas just loves to say) SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

No, that is far to narrow, and lacks the Obamaesque hyperbloe- This is the worst economy, since the Middle Ages!!

And we all know how long that lasted…

P.S. Do I advocate the assassination of anyone? Yes- Patricia Helvenston- on the grounds of poorly-est written worst reverse-moral equivalence arguing, by vitue of an old Roman law recently re-discovered, and not overturned

Mar 16, 2009 - 5:39 pm 286. debra congram:

Obama is the Trojan Horse in which far-left liberals hid on their way to rule Washington. The far-left won by using a naive black man as a puppet for the cause, because who will publicly criticize a half-black man and his all-black, angry wife?

Obama is the idiot he looks like, and behind him are communists.

Mar 18, 2009 - 10:12 am 287. Chuck:

Obama is simply an incompetent fool with a pack of socialist ideas and a silver tongue. His leadership abilities are zero and fakes trying to manage by drawing huge groups of people together and accomplishes nothing. He and his cronies will shortly destroy America and the sheep that voted for him will hear him chuckle as they go over the cliff.

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:39 am 288. Stand:

war in Iraq will cost $3T.

Hope you voted for that too.

There certainly was and is a lot of unregulated greed in banks and investment houses. Thank all of Congregress for that, not just the Dems or Pubs.
Term limits for every elected and appointed gov’t official at the Fed and State level. No exceptions. Even the Soupreme Court.
Mandatory retirement at 65 for the same group. They can go teach if they still desire to be part of it.
No elected or appointed officials with a personal net worth or available net worth of more than $10M.

Mar 27, 2009 - 3:00 pm 289. Gaffe Prices:

P.S.S I changed my mind, for in todays paradigm mentality the wages of secular sin is, of course, debt. Because that’s what we’ll all end up in as we try to pay off theirs, The well fed government.

So no more talk of taking someone out, (unless of course you’re in Oakland, and the rules go out the window, and chaosa rules, in the name of “racism” and “anything goes”). this is a kinder and gentler administration, so everybody sing along: “and this is a kinder and gentler administration and “anything goes”. “this is a kinder and gentler administration, Kumbaya”…(one more time w/ ‘chaos rules’ this time.)

Mar 28, 2009 - 9:14 pm 290. J.C.:

The O is definitely trying to destroy this nation and would love nothing better than to rule the world. Go to youtube.com and type in “Is Obama the anti-Christ” and watch some of the videos, especially “Obama the One” and the lottery video. It will give you cold shivers to watch some of them. Then do a youtube.com search, “How Obama got Elected” and watch a few of the well-researched videos. Then pray . . . without ceasing.

Mar 31, 2009 - 7:56 am 291. Roger’s Rules » Obama’s societal Blitazkrieg: the rise of piracy as a metaphor for the retribalization of the world:

[...] and to hamstring the U.S. economy with so-called “green” (really, they’re pink) rules and regulations, threaten to cripple not only the productive bits of our economy but also [...]

Apr 11, 2009 - 9:34 am 292. Roger’s Rules » Adventures in empathy, with an excursion today’s funniest headline and (added bonus) a trip down memory lane:

[...] rhetoric about “justice,” “fairness,” and “equality.” Lenin did likewise, though don’t expect any thanks for pointing that [...]

May 2, 2009 - 7:11 am 293. Fausta’s Blog » Blog Archive » Incompetence, or purpose?:

[...] Kimball also is looking at the question: Incompetence, malevolence, or both? or Why Obama’s policies are pink, not green (with a coda on my… Lenin, too, wished to “spread the wealth around.” And Obama, like Lenin, has been [...]

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