Comments on: For Once I Agree with Dan Rather http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:00:43 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: David R. Block http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3513 David R. Block Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:49:12 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3513 The only thing mildly entertaining is hearing one of the local talk show hosts do voice over commentary as the speeches are given. I've also heard Michael Savage do the same thing. I don't always agree with these guys, but boy oh boy there were some side-splitters! The only thing mildly entertaining is hearing one of the local talk show hosts do voice over commentary as the speeches are given. I’ve also heard Michael Savage do the same thing. I don’t always agree with these guys, but boy oh boy there were some side-splitters!

]]> By: Fresh Air http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3512 Fresh Air Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:35:22 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3512 Dave-- I would be careful about Obama. He may be a brilliant orator, but he said some black-helicopter stuff about "federal agents" in libraries and "families" being taken away and imprisoned without due process. Being ambivalent about affirmative action is one thing, but employing Michael Moore/Nancy Pelosi hackery is quite another. Dave–

I would be careful about Obama. He may be a brilliant orator, but he said some black-helicopter stuff about “federal agents” in libraries and “families” being taken away and imprisoned without due process. Being ambivalent about affirmative action is one thing, but employing Michael Moore/Nancy Pelosi hackery is quite another.

]]> By: Dave Schuler http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3511 Dave Schuler Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:28:02 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3511 Unlike Roger I thought Obama's speech was pretty strong. No doubt I'll vote for him in the fall. The Democrats need to be very careful about Obama, however. Does he believe he's the beneficiary of affirmative action or not? If not, it puts the lie to claims that everything in America is about race. If so, do the children of Kenyans and white Kansans reared in Hawaii by white grandparents need affirmative action? More than the children of Mississippi sharecroppers—because that's who he edged out. I had a Hawaiian roommate in college and lots of Hawaiian friends. Not one had ever <i>seen</i> an African American before coming to the mainland to go to school. So Obama grew up almost completely isolated from African American society. Don't get me wrong—I like Obama and believe he'll make a good senator for Illinois (certainly better than Carole Mosely Braun). But Obama's achievements are his own and his success calls the conventional orthodoxies about racial politics in this country into question. Unlike Roger I thought Obama’s speech was pretty strong. No doubt I’ll vote for him in the fall.

The Democrats need to be very careful about Obama, however. Does he believe he’s the beneficiary of affirmative action or not? If not, it puts the lie to claims that everything in America is about race. If so, do the children of Kenyans and white Kansans reared in Hawaii by white grandparents need affirmative action? More than the children of Mississippi sharecroppers—because that’s who he edged out.

I had a Hawaiian roommate in college and lots of Hawaiian friends. Not one had ever seen an African American before coming to the mainland to go to school. So Obama grew up almost completely isolated from African American society.

Don’t get me wrong—I like Obama and believe he’ll make a good senator for Illinois (certainly better than Carole Mosely Braun). But Obama’s achievements are his own and his success calls the conventional orthodoxies about racial politics in this country into question.

]]> By: MeTooThen http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3510 MeTooThen Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:56:26 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3510 DtP I secretly wished I could be Haji's friend. He was <em>so</em> cool! Sigh. DtP

I secretly wished I could be Haji’s friend.

He was so cool!

Sigh.

]]> By: Charlie (Colorado) http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3509 Charlie (Colorado) Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:42:43 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3509 John, re the porevious chain, I'll get to it eventually; I just got a new pile of stuff on my Navy research, it pays rather better than talking about philosophical approches to abortion. John, re the porevious chain, I’ll get to it eventually; I just got a new pile of stuff on my Navy research, it pays rather better than talking about philosophical approches to abortion.

]]> By: Knucklehead http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3508 Knucklehead Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:38:00 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3508 I haven't been able to force myself to watch more than a few minutes at a time. And it doeesn't matter which bit one looks at or when. No matter who the speaker or what the topic, or how well constructed and well delivered the presentation there is only pissing and moaning - never an idea for trying anything different to deal with any problem. It turns my stomach to watch a full-scale and completely open and approved demonstration of the worship of form over substance. It I were an insider looking at the Democratic Party I would be feeling ever more depressed while watching an organization I once cared about entering the final stage - the Beyond Recovery stage - of "Gaining Speed and Losing Altitude". I haven’t been able to force myself to watch more than a few minutes at a time. And it doeesn’t matter which bit one looks at or when. No matter who the speaker or what the topic, or how well constructed and well delivered the presentation there is only pissing and moaning – never an idea for trying anything different to deal with any problem.

It turns my stomach to watch a full-scale and completely open and approved demonstration of the worship of form over substance. It I were an insider looking at the Democratic Party I would be feeling ever more depressed while watching an organization I once cared about entering the final stage – the Beyond Recovery stage – of “Gaining Speed and Losing Altitude”.

]]> By: DennisThePeasant http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3507 DennisThePeasant Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:09:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3507 I did actually try to watch some of the convention last night, but it became clear that the convention has devolved into the type of faux-'60s/Viet Nam Boomerfest that makes me physically ill. What can you say about morons who think the "good old days" were in 1972? Yuck! But, in the spirit of the moment I was moved to revisit just about the only part of the '60s that still resonates with me and watched a couple of hours of original <i>Jonny Quest</i> episodes I have on tape. Got to see both <i>The Invisible Monster</i> and <i>The Curse of Annubis</i>, personal favorites of mine, without even having to search the tape. Why bother with The Elephant Man, Brak and Ketchup Girl when you can have Jonny, Haji and Bandit? I did actually try to watch some of the convention last night, but it became clear that the convention has devolved into the type of faux-’60s/Viet Nam Boomerfest that makes me physically ill. What can you say about morons who think the “good old days” were in 1972? Yuck!

But, in the spirit of the moment I was moved to revisit just about the only part of the ’60s that still resonates with me and watched a couple of hours of original Jonny Quest episodes I have on tape. Got to see both The Invisible Monster and The Curse of Annubis, personal favorites of mine, without even having to search the tape.

Why bother with The Elephant Man, Brak and Ketchup Girl when you can have Jonny, Haji and Bandit?

]]> By: asher813@aol.com http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3506 asher813@aol.com Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:51:02 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3506 "Western movies, which by now, laid end to end, would reach somewhere north of Alpha Centauri" Roger L. Simon, mystery/Western/sci-fi writer ... I love it ... “Western movies, which by now, laid end to end, would reach somewhere north of Alpha Centauri”

Roger L. Simon, mystery/Western/sci-fi writer … I love it …

]]> By: tioedong http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3505 tioedong Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:41:20 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3505 Thank God for "Animal Planet". (and I''m a Democrat) Thank God for “Animal Planet”.

(and I”m a Democrat)

]]> By: Erik http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3504 Erik Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:56:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/07/27/for-once-i-agree-with-dan-rather/#comment-3504 About Obama: He said that we have a duty to stand up for the soldiers that we send, and that John Kerry understands this. My immediate reaction was "so why did he vote against the $87 billion (for bullet proof wests, etc) after he voted for it?". Also, maybe it's me being oversensitive for "unsaid arguments" (they are used a lot here): After he described where he came from, he talked about how everyone should have the opportunity to get an education no matter where they come from. The unsaid argument seemed to be that he would not have been where he is if that was not so, and that only with democrats in charge will this be possible. Obama graduated from Columbia U in 1983, and from Harvard in 1991... Maybe it's because I live where I do that I reacted to it, but that type of unsaid argument is very common among the left here. About Obama:

He said that we have a duty to stand up for the soldiers that we send, and that John Kerry understands this.

My immediate reaction was “so why did he vote against the $87 billion (for bullet proof wests, etc) after he voted for it?”.

Also, maybe it’s me being oversensitive for “unsaid arguments” (they are used a lot here):

After he described where he came from, he talked about how everyone should have the opportunity to get an education no matter where they come from. The unsaid argument seemed to be that he would not have been where he is if that was not so, and that only with democrats in charge will this be possible.

Obama graduated from Columbia U in 1983, and from Harvard in 1991…

Maybe it’s because I live where I do that I reacted to it, but that type of unsaid argument is very common among the left here.

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