Because there’s a Le Pen in France does not make all the French anti-Semites anymore than the presence of the KKK, people who deny the holocaust, etc., in the US makes all Americans anti-Semites. Just once, try some nuance. Thanks for the history lesson.

Been gone for two days so here is my belated response to your francophilism.

You can tell the character of a nation by how it treats certain groups. Let us look at France’s record of its relationship with Jews. The origins of modern anti-Semitism are in France. The Count De Gobineau first put forth the anti-Semitic theories adopted by the Nazis. If you were to tell a European that the Holocaust would happen on the Continent they would have assumed that France would be the perpetrator. Nobody would have picked the Germans.

During WWII, despite the Gaulist mythology, France collaborated. If you looked at what happened to French Jews here is what you find. Obviously Jews living in German occupied France were deported. Jews living in Vichy France were deported. Jews living in Italian occupied France were saved by the Italian Army. As the commander of the Italian occupation forces said that to cooperate in such an activity would dishonor the Italian Army. French [and other Jews] who could make it to the Spanish border where saved by an underground railway that operated under the authority of General Franco. So there you have it. Your heroic French helped murder French Jews. Hitler’s allies, the Italians, from top to bottom did their best to protect Jews. Franco, a fascist sympathizer, helped Jews escape from your friends the French.

How about today? French Jews are attacked in the streets. Jewish institutions are burned to the ground. How do the French react? The same way they did in WWII. The same way the did in the 19th Century. Fine friends these French no?

I do not expect a rebuttal because you never give one. That is because, like most Kerry supporters, you are a pretentious ignoramus.

“Are you seriously suggesting that your ignorance of art, food, wine, philosophy, architecture, &c is somehow a qualification for arguing against Bush?”

I was being ironic. Guess you missed it. Cheers.

DtP, you’re projecting… again.

You’re the one that claims all this stuff, not me. I am and have always been a guy, a lawyer with a wife and a child.

Unfortunately, DtP, if we omitted all the invective, all the name calling, all the disinformation from your posts, we’d be left with…zip, zilch, nada, bupkis, nothing. How sad for you.

I don’t know much about art, food, wine, philosophy, architecture, etc., but I know what I like. [hint: it ain't Bush.]

I’m sorry, I was going to leave you alone out of pity, but this is just too much.

Are you seriously suggesting that your ignorance of art, food, wine, philosophy, architecture, &c is somehow a qualification for arguing against Bush?

Jesus Christ, man, try to put up a fight. Did you get your law degree from Montgomery Wards?

And this would be on topic how?

Interesting that you bring up Kerry’s take on violations of international law in Viet Nam but fail to consider the activities at Abu Gharib.

You’re right, Hollywood. Letting dogs bark at prisoners and pointing at their peepees is certainly comparable to cutting off ears, shocking their genitals, or keeping them in cages too small to stand, sit, or lie down for years at a time.

I’m sorry, son, but the shrill desperation is getting a little too obvious here. Take another break and catch your breath before your head explodes.

And, you should note that the “instance I cite” is John Kerry’s own ‘Winter Soldier’ testimony accusing the U.S. government and military of large scale systematic and deliberate crimes against humanity and admissions of personal participation of crimes against humanity.

Obviously, you haven’t read John Kerry’s ‘Winter Soldier’ testimony. Just as obviously, the fact that John Kerry has admitted to participating in war crimes doesn’t mean a thing to you. Nor does the fact that the allegations of systematic and deliberate criminal behavior on the part of U.S. forces made by Kerry have been shown in its entirety to be either completely unsubstantiated or based on the perjured testimony of people impersonating veterans.

You just don’t care.

John Kerry could have murdered 10,000 noncombatants and sold half the U.S. Navy to the Viet Cong and you wouldn’t give a hoot. The bottom line is quite simply that the most important thing in the world to you is proving G. Bush was wrong and you were right, and the only way that can happen is elect someone who will make sure Iraq is lost and the WOT falters. It doesn’t matter that it’s Kerry, really, any scumbag will do…just as long as you’re assured and convinced that when he says he’ll fight for freedom in Iraq and will fight Islamofascism without quarter, he’s lying through his teeth.

Of course John Kerry’s lies don’t bother you. You’re an dishonest, dissembling, amoral shit, he’s an dishonest, dissembling, amoral shit. You could be a band of brothers, the two of you. After all, Kerry claimed he was a war criminal, you claimed you were a female lawyer. Now Kerry’s a war hero, and you have a wife and kids. Right?

You fail to see my point, but I didn’t expect anything else.

You obviously cant see the difference between different kinds of nationalism. That tells me you have no experience of Europe what so ever.

I dont know anyone that has had what we would call unpleasant experiences in France. A lot of the people I know lives there, and has no plans of leaving, even though they could. A lot of them are in fact French. They like it there, and they choose to live there.

But they are not in denial about France.

You are.

It seems obvious that you dont have a clue, and I seriously doubt you have ever been there, except in Hollywood movies.

In fact, now I wonder if you’ve ever been in Europe at all.

All nations pretty much by definition are nationalistic. I’m sorry you and your friends have had unpleasant experiences in France. That’s too bad. You’ve missed out. Maybe some other time for you, maybe not. Good luck.