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		<title>By: Syl</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/02/back-blogging/#comment-11962</link>
		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Astrogal



What&#039;s the problem? Our revolution was fought with soldiers. We couldn&#039;t have had that constitution without them.



If someone attacks us do you think it&#039;s enough to show them our Constitution and that will make them stop?




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astrogal</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the problem? Our revolution was fought with soldiers. We couldn&#8217;t have had that constitution without them.</p>
<p>If someone attacks us do you think it&#8217;s enough to show them our Constitution and that will make them stop?</p>
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		<title>By: Astrogal</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/02/back-blogging/#comment-11961</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrogal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 16:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over on the Reason convention blog, Matt Welch did have some useful points in between hyperventilation episodes.  Specifically:  what is the appropriate level of criticism on foreign policy during a campaign season?  (Especially in a war like this one, in which we don&#039;t fight one nation and won&#039;t have an official end to hostilities.)   Is it going too far to ascribe liberty and freedom to soldiers when these are in fact rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution?





My point is that I naively would like to see reasoned, respectful debate on these points and the current climate doesn&#039;t have much room for this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over on the Reason convention blog, Matt Welch did have some useful points in between hyperventilation episodes.  Specifically:  what is the appropriate level of criticism on foreign policy during a campaign season?  (Especially in a war like this one, in which we don&#8217;t fight one nation and won&#8217;t have an official end to hostilities.)   Is it going too far to ascribe liberty and freedom to soldiers when these are in fact rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution?</p>
<p>My point is that I naively would like to see reasoned, respectful debate on these points and the current climate doesn&#8217;t have much room for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Knucklehead</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/02/back-blogging/#comment-11960</link>
		<dc:creator>Knucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 16:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine,



I have no idea how they seperate out any explanation of what they vote for or against.  This is one reason I believe we really could use a line-item veto for POTUS.  The legislature is voting on something called &quot;Some REALLY important thing that we just must spend $20B on&quot; and buried in there are twenty more Sen. Byrd Bridges for W Va.



So did the guys who voted against the bill vote against the really important thing, or are they fighting against the preposterous pork portions, or are they just gettin&#039; dishin&#039; out some paybacks.



In the case of Kerry and weapons systems, however, it seems to me that unless he wasn&#039;t relentlessly against weapons systems and, therefore, voted against these particular &quot;comprehensive&quot; bills for some other reason, he&#039;d have some &quot;for&quot; votes for some comprehensive bills that also happened to contain some weapons systems stuff.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine,</p>
<p>I have no idea how they seperate out any explanation of what they vote for or against.  This is one reason I believe we really could use a line-item veto for POTUS.  The legislature is voting on something called &#8220;Some REALLY important thing that we just must spend $20B on&#8221; and buried in there are twenty more Sen. Byrd Bridges for W Va.</p>
<p>So did the guys who voted against the bill vote against the really important thing, or are they fighting against the preposterous pork portions, or are they just gettin&#8217; dishin&#8217; out some paybacks.</p>
<p>In the case of Kerry and weapons systems, however, it seems to me that unless he wasn&#8217;t relentlessly against weapons systems and, therefore, voted against these particular &#8220;comprehensive&#8221; bills for some other reason, he&#8217;d have some &#8220;for&#8221; votes for some comprehensive bills that also happened to contain some weapons systems stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/02/back-blogging/#comment-11959</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 16:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Knucklehead&lt;/b&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;That some of Kerry&#039;s votes were votes against comprehensive bills rather than against specific weapons systems.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;We&#039;d need a lot more explanation from Kerry to make any analysis of what this means.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



I&#039;m sure that&#039;s true, and I&#039;m assuming that&#039;s one of the reasons Senators have a hard time getting elected president.



Somebody here will have an idea about this: how do Senators explain--or neutralize--tactical votes and normal Congressional horsetrading in a national campaign?



I don&#039;t remember whether Dole had to deal with this, or, if so, how he did it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Knucklehead</b></p>
<blockquote><p>That some of Kerry&#8217;s votes were votes against comprehensive bills rather than against specific weapons systems.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>We&#8217;d need a lot more explanation from Kerry to make any analysis of what this means.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s true, and I&#8217;m assuming that&#8217;s one of the reasons Senators have a hard time getting elected president.</p>
<p>Somebody here will have an idea about this: how do Senators explain&#8211;or neutralize&#8211;tactical votes and normal Congressional horsetrading in a national campaign?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember whether Dole had to deal with this, or, if so, how he did it.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;DtP&lt;/b&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;This from the Andrew Sullivan who spent the first two years after 9/11 bitching about the fact that nothing mattered but the War on Terror.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Andrew Sullivan is the Humpty Dumpty of political writers.



&lt;b&gt;Terrye&lt;/b&gt;



&lt;i&gt;Jeez Marie&lt;/i&gt;



Hey!



I always say it, Jeez Louise.



Is this an Indiana/Illinois thing?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>DtP</b></p>
<blockquote><p>This from the Andrew Sullivan who spent the first two years after 9/11 bitching about the fact that nothing mattered but the War on Terror.</p></blockquote>
<p>Andrew Sullivan is the Humpty Dumpty of political writers.</p>
<p><b>Terrye</b></p>
<p><i>Jeez Marie</i></p>
<p>Hey!</p>
<p>I always say it, Jeez Louise.</p>
<p>Is this an Indiana/Illinois thing?</p>
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		<title>By: vegetius</title>
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		<dc:creator>vegetius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 11:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zell Miller&#039;s speech was the most breath-taking, fire-breathing, testosterone-filled, scene since Al Pacino&#039;s speech to the student assembly in &quot;Scent of a Woman&quot;.  OOH AHH!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zell Miller&#8217;s speech was the most breath-taking, fire-breathing, testosterone-filled, scene since Al Pacino&#8217;s speech to the student assembly in &#8220;Scent of a Woman&#8221;.  OOH AHH!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Vexorg</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/02/back-blogging/#comment-11956</link>
		<dc:creator>Vexorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 07:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ack, mangled the link...  If you&#039;re reading this you probably already know where to find it, but here it is...



http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/04/0904/090304.html



Mods, feel free to burninate as appropriate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack, mangled the link&#8230;  If you&#8217;re reading this you probably already know where to find it, but here it is&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/04/0904/090304.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/04/0904/090304.html</a></p>
<p>Mods, feel free to burninate as appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Vexorg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vexorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 07:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that &lt;a&gt;Lileks&lt;/a&gt; put it best with his use of the term &quot;Zellfire and brimstone&quot;.  And I thought that Guliani was ripping the Dems a new one...



And Roger, if I had to sit around listening to Sean Hannity for that long I&#039;d probably get sick of it too, and I actually LIKE conservative talk radio.  Fortunately up here in Seattle, we&#039;re fortunate enough to have a couple of really good local guys on 570 KVI (Kirby Wilbur and John Carlson) that unfortunately I don&#039;t get much chance to listen to because they don&#039;t usually fit my schedule.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that <a>Lileks</a> put it best with his use of the term &#8220;Zellfire and brimstone&#8221;.  And I thought that Guliani was ripping the Dems a new one&#8230;</p>
<p>And Roger, if I had to sit around listening to Sean Hannity for that long I&#8217;d probably get sick of it too, and I actually LIKE conservative talk radio.  Fortunately up here in Seattle, we&#8217;re fortunate enough to have a couple of really good local guys on 570 KVI (Kirby Wilbur and John Carlson) that unfortunately I don&#8217;t get much chance to listen to because they don&#8217;t usually fit my schedule.</p>
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		<title>By: TmjUtah</title>
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		<dc:creator>TmjUtah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 05:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis -



I&#039;m darn glad I don&#039;t disagree with you much.  It would suck to end my days as a pelt tacked to the garage wall over the &#039;Benz.



Crowded, too, I bet.



You can&#039;t outsell the worst salesman in the world if you don&#039;t have product. Too true.



I want to hear from Samuel.  I didn&#039;t watch Kerry&#039;s Midnight Special but the look on the pundits faces both on FOX and MSNBC in the moments leading up to it made me decide to close the night happy with Bush&#039;s speech.  A fast scan (yes, mostly right-leaning) of blogs and media indicates that if it wasn&#039;t a fullblown meltdown it certainly didn&#039;t do him any good.



When multiple people across several different forums use the word &quot;ramble&quot;, it&#039;s never good.



Y&#039;all have a great night and a better tomorrow.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis -</p>
<p>I&#8217;m darn glad I don&#8217;t disagree with you much.  It would suck to end my days as a pelt tacked to the garage wall over the &#8216;Benz.</p>
<p>Crowded, too, I bet.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t outsell the worst salesman in the world if you don&#8217;t have product. Too true.</p>
<p>I want to hear from Samuel.  I didn&#8217;t watch Kerry&#8217;s Midnight Special but the look on the pundits faces both on FOX and MSNBC in the moments leading up to it made me decide to close the night happy with Bush&#8217;s speech.  A fast scan (yes, mostly right-leaning) of blogs and media indicates that if it wasn&#8217;t a fullblown meltdown it certainly didn&#8217;t do him any good.</p>
<p>When multiple people across several different forums use the word &#8220;ramble&#8221;, it&#8217;s never good.</p>
<p>Y&#8217;all have a great night and a better tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 04:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re the Kerry vs Cheney senate votes, remember Kerry was doing this in the &#039;80&#039;s during the height of the cold war and attempting to thwart Reagan at every turn.



In the &#039;90&#039;s AFTER the wall came down, Cheney backed some cutbacks in certain areas.



Two different times in history.



Context does make a difference.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the Kerry vs Cheney senate votes, remember Kerry was doing this in the &#8217;80&#8217;s during the height of the cold war and attempting to thwart Reagan at every turn.</p>
<p>In the &#8217;90&#8217;s AFTER the wall came down, Cheney backed some cutbacks in certain areas.</p>
<p>Two different times in history.</p>
<p>Context does make a difference.</p>
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