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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/04/the-new-reactionaries-part-607/#comment-12533</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Floating in here from Captain&#039;s Quarters, I just wanted to see what the response to Newsday&#039;s &quot;misrepresentation&quot; was in this corner.  Quite the journey from the beginning of the comments.  I appreciate the level of intensity and knowledge among those posting here.  It is refreshing.  As I was reading, I noticed something on which I would like to comment.  Seeing as the subject has been banned, I&#039;ll be brief:  the thought put forth regarding Midwestern beliefs on abortion is correct as far as evangelicals are concerned.  When I was less informed than I am now, which there is not much difference :) , I voted straight Republican due to the party&#039;s stance on abortion.  Now I am a couple years older and want to know &quot;why&quot; I vote the way I do.  I am pleased to note that still I have more in common with the Republicans than the Democrats.  Unless there are some major upheavels, I forsee the future of my vote staying the same.

Please do continue your efforts of spreading the truth so that others may come to the conclusion, as I did, that the majority of &quot;news&quot; we hear (or read) is a form of liberal brainwashing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Floating in here from Captain&#8217;s Quarters, I just wanted to see what the response to Newsday&#8217;s &#8220;misrepresentation&#8221; was in this corner.  Quite the journey from the beginning of the comments.  I appreciate the level of intensity and knowledge among those posting here.  It is refreshing.  As I was reading, I noticed something on which I would like to comment.  Seeing as the subject has been banned, I&#8217;ll be brief:  the thought put forth regarding Midwestern beliefs on abortion is correct as far as evangelicals are concerned.  When I was less informed than I am now, which there is not much difference <img src='http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  , I voted straight Republican due to the party&#8217;s stance on abortion.  Now I am a couple years older and want to know &#8220;why&#8221; I vote the way I do.  I am pleased to note that still I have more in common with the Republicans than the Democrats.  Unless there are some major upheavels, I forsee the future of my vote staying the same.</p>
<p>Please do continue your efforts of spreading the truth so that others may come to the conclusion, as I did, that the majority of &#8220;news&#8221; we hear (or read) is a form of liberal brainwashing.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore ( Useful Fools )</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore ( Useful Fools )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 08:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie



You trigger memories. I spent a lot of time stationed at Moffett NAS, with my office in the great big blimp hangar and our aircraft on the ramp in front of it.



This was way pre-Osprey days, although the did have some  sort of flying car that looked like a flying saucer. We also used to see the guppy a lot, although the last time I saw it was this year at the boneyard in Tucson (when they also let me sit in the cockpit of an SR-71!)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie</p>
<p>You trigger memories. I spent a lot of time stationed at Moffett NAS, with my office in the great big blimp hangar and our aircraft on the ramp in front of it.</p>
<p>This was way pre-Osprey days, although the did have some  sort of flying car that looked like a flying saucer. We also used to see the guppy a lot, although the last time I saw it was this year at the boneyard in Tucson (when they also let me sit in the cockpit of an SR-71!)</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you want to look into is the LAMV Skycar.



The Osprey is dead.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you want to look into is the LAMV Skycar.</p>
<p>The Osprey is dead.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys also need to focus on this:



&lt;a href=&quot;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=12465#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

Al Sharpton &amp; Willie Horton Ads by Marks&lt;/a&gt;



Especially see my posts interspersed between #107 &amp; #118 Also links to the Blogspirator.



We are going to have to get ready to deal with this stuff. Back in action again. Yee Haaa.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys also need to focus on this:</p>
<p><a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=12465#comments" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>Al Sharpton &amp; Willie Horton Ads by Marks</a></p>
<p>Especially see my posts interspersed between #107 &amp; #118 Also links to the Blogspirator.</p>
<p>We are going to have to get ready to deal with this stuff. Back in action again. Yee Haaa.</p>
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		<title>By: craig mclaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig mclaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie:



The rotor blades of a helicopter, any helo, create a ring of disturbed turbulent air underneath them---a vortex ring.  If you are foolish enough to descend into that disturbed air with insufficient forward airspeed you will drop like a set of car keys.



If you have enough altitude you can fly out of the bottom of it.  If you don&#039;t you&#039;re dead...



Craig
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie:</p>
<p>The rotor blades of a helicopter, any helo, create a ring of disturbed turbulent air underneath them&#8212;a vortex ring.  If you are foolish enough to descend into that disturbed air with insufficient forward airspeed you will drop like a set of car keys.</p>
<p>If you have enough altitude you can fly out of the bottom of it.  If you don&#8217;t you&#8217;re dead&#8230;</p>
<p>Craig</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie (Colorado)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Vortex Ring State&lt;/i&gt;



??



All I know about Ospreys is that they looked kinda cool when they used to fly them at Moffet NAS during the airshow (I used to live right off the threshold) and they seem to prang them pretty often.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Vortex Ring State</i></p>
<p>??</p>
<p>All I know about Ospreys is that they looked kinda cool when they used to fly them at Moffet NAS during the airshow (I used to live right off the threshold) and they seem to prang them pretty often.</p>
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		<title>By: craig mclaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig mclaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 02:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry:



Oh yeah, The Osprey.  I&#039;d forgotten about that piece of crap.  The Corps has been screwing around with it for twenty years.



A guy I went to school with, John Brow, crashed an Osprey.  19 Marines were killed.  Including John.  Vortex Ring State, what can I say?



But none of this has anything to do with Roger&#039;s point about reactionary media, does it?



Do you wanna talk about abortion?



Craig
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry:</p>
<p>Oh yeah, The Osprey.  I&#8217;d forgotten about that piece of crap.  The Corps has been screwing around with it for twenty years.</p>
<p>A guy I went to school with, John Brow, crashed an Osprey.  19 Marines were killed.  Including John.  Vortex Ring State, what can I say?</p>
<p>But none of this has anything to do with Roger&#8217;s point about reactionary media, does it?</p>
<p>Do you wanna talk about abortion?</p>
<p>Craig</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 01:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig ó I think they&#039;re still holding out for the Osprey.  But if that comes up short, a navalized CH-47 or -53 would be pretty mission capable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig ó I think they&#8217;re still holding out for the Osprey.  But if that comes up short, a navalized CH-47 or -53 would be pretty mission capable.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 01:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig:



The CV-22 Osprey will replace the 46.  It is just a pig and expensive one at that.  The Marines would have been better off selecting a high speed tandem design that Boeing had experimented with in the 1980&#039;s.  It could lift 25000lbs 50 miles and cruise at 180 kts for half the price.  But once the Marines locked in the Osprey they could not be moved.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig:</p>
<p>The CV-22 Osprey will replace the 46.  It is just a pig and expensive one at that.  The Marines would have been better off selecting a high speed tandem design that Boeing had experimented with in the 1980&#8217;s.  It could lift 25000lbs 50 miles and cruise at 180 kts for half the price.  But once the Marines locked in the Osprey they could not be moved.</p>
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		<title>By: craig mclaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig mclaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 01:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry,



I know the HH-60 and other Blackhawk variants now operate off Navy ships of all kinds.  But at the time that NBC segment aired, I don&#039;t believe the HH-60 variant was in production.



My understanding, wrong perhaps, was the Marines were being forced to chose between something proven and buying a &quot;pig in a poke.&quot;  Without or without lipstick, the chioce seemed clear to me AT THE TIME.  Plus they needed the Helos right then, not five years later.



But I could be wrong.  My larger point was that you&#039;ll never, repeat never, hear Dan Rather say that.



And BTW, what will replace the H-46 for the Marines?  Those birds are old...



Semper Fi.

Craig




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,</p>
<p>I know the HH-60 and other Blackhawk variants now operate off Navy ships of all kinds.  But at the time that NBC segment aired, I don&#8217;t believe the HH-60 variant was in production.</p>
<p>My understanding, wrong perhaps, was the Marines were being forced to chose between something proven and buying a &#8220;pig in a poke.&#8221;  Without or without lipstick, the chioce seemed clear to me AT THE TIME.  Plus they needed the Helos right then, not five years later.</p>
<p>But I could be wrong.  My larger point was that you&#8217;ll never, repeat never, hear Dan Rather say that.</p>
<p>And BTW, what will replace the H-46 for the Marines?  Those birds are old&#8230;</p>
<p>Semper Fi.</p>
<p>Craig</p>
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