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1. richard mcenroe:

They raped children in Beslam. Short-eyes works fine.

Sep 8, 2004 - 7:07 am 2. syn:

And, they attacked on the first day of school.

My eyes are filled with tears. My heart is filled with rage.

Sep 8, 2004 - 7:21 am 3. Simon W. Moon:

For some reason(s) the Bush Admin is an advocate of negotiations with the scum’s proxies.

Sep 8, 2004 - 7:42 am 4. Simon W. Moon:

U.S. calls for diplomacy with Chechens

Sep 8, 2004 - 7:46 am 5. Fausta:

Via National Review, it happened before, in 1974

During Passover week in ‘74 we in Galilee experienced the first of a number of specific PLO attacks targeting specifically schools and children houses, kindergartens, school buses and the like. It started with an infiltration in Quiriat Schmoneh on the Passover weekend, where the perpetrators found the school empty and locked (of course during the holidays!) and took over a nearby residential building, shooting people and in the end blowing themselves up. A few weeks later the worst of this series of incidents took place in Maalot on May 15th: Three PLO gunmen, after making their way through the border fence, first shot up a van load full of workers returning from a tobacco factory (incidentally these people happened to be Galilee Arabs, not Jews), then they entered the school compound of Maalot. First they murdered the housekeeper, his wife and one of their kids, then they took a whole group of nearly 100 kids and their teachers hostage. These were staying overnight at the school, as they were on a hiking trip. In the end, the deadline ran out, and the army’s special unit assaulted the building. During the rescue attempt, the gunmen blew their explosive charges and sprayed the kids with machine-gun fire. 25 people died, 66 wounded.

Sep 8, 2004 - 7:53 am 6. ms anne:

Medieval tortures like being flayed alive are too good for these murderers. I can’t bear to watch the videos they took. No press account has explained why the children were wearing only underwear–I had assumed it was because of the heat in the crowded room. Do we know if the terrorists also sexually molested these kids?

Sep 8, 2004 - 8:18 am 7. Fausta:

Ms Anne,

Yes

Sep 8, 2004 - 8:26 am 8. D Anghelone:

Hmmm…a subset of ’short eyes’ is ‘chicken hawk’.

Sep 8, 2004 - 9:57 am 9. Catherine:

OK, I’m not totally happy I now know the term “short eyes.”

Sep 8, 2004 - 10:26 am 10. Catherine:

That’s not a complaint.

Sep 8, 2004 - 10:26 am 11. Catherine:

Just an observation.

Sep 8, 2004 - 10:27 am 12. D Anghelone:

A ‘chicken hawk’ is a man who preys on boys. ’short eyes’ could be the same or could be gender non-specific.

Gee, that looks so…clinical.

Sep 8, 2004 - 11:21 am 13. Terrye:

Simon:

I think negotiating with responsible Chechens would be good, but not these people. These people are a disgrace to their religion and their culture and what could you negotiate?

Sep 8, 2004 - 5:04 pm 14. David [.net]:

For some reason(s) the Bush Admin is an advocate of negotiations with the scum’s proxies.

That’s what happens when you let newspapers tell you what others said, when you can easily get it straight from the source.

All the Globe did was write about what they think you should know about what the State Department said in the daily briefing. They also mischaracterized what was said, but that fits with the story being pushed that the Beslan murders has something to do with Chechen separatism. But why let me or anyone interpret State’s answers when you can do it yourself:

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2004/c12832.htm

Sep 8, 2004 - 5:16 pm 15. Cybrludite:

To paraphrase the movie “Heavy Metal”:

Hangin’s too good for ‘em! BURNIN’S too good for ‘em! They should be ripped into itsy-bitsy little pieces and BURIED ALIVE!

Sep 8, 2004 - 5:25 pm 16. pjw:

I caught a few minutes of the BBC on the radio today, the question they posed was -

What should the west’s response be …. to the Russian treatment of Chechens.

Sep 8, 2004 - 6:49 pm 17. Terrye:

I have heard the prison scandal in Iraq described as inhumane, sadistic, brutal, etc.

But so far the press does not seem to be able to say things half as harsh about some terrorist [excuse me militant] who rapes and kills children. Let’s see what is worse, panties on a man’s head or an 18 month old stabbed to death, a pile of naked men or a mother forced to chose one child to save while the other is shot in the back….let me see… now don’t tell me….

Sep 8, 2004 - 7:34 pm 18. Simon W. Moon:

They also mischaracterized what was said, but that fits with the story being pushed that the Beslan murders has something to do with Chechen separatism.

I don’t see how Mr.Boucher’s comments were misconstrued.

Mr. Boucher says, “Our views of — our basic views haven’t changed.”

The basic views advocated negotiations.

Russians have decided that these attackes are linked to Shamil Basayev and Asian Maskhadov based on the statements given by four of the hostage-takers according to Izvestia daily.

If you’ll note, the US granted Mr. Maskhadov asylum last month.

So staying the course in this instance does, in fact mean advocating negotiations.

Mr. Putin seems to have gotten the same impression that I did:

“Why don’t you meet Osama bin Laden, invite him to Brussels or to the White House, engage in talks, ask him what he wants and give it to him so he leaves you in peace?”

What have you seen that gives you cause to question the scum’s links to Mr. Maskhadov et al?

Sep 8, 2004 - 7:53 pm 19. Simon W. Moon:

Well, that’s not quite right.

Mr. Maskhadv wasn’t granted asylum.

Sep 8, 2004 - 8:04 pm 20. David [.net]:

If you’ll note, the US granted Mr. Maskhadov asylum last month.

You misread.

Sep 8, 2004 - 8:04 pm 21. David [.net]:

If you’ll note, the US granted Mr. Maskhadov asylum last month.

You misread.

Sep 8, 2004 - 8:06 pm

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