Yes. I know what you mean. The temptation for some people [like Juan Williams] is to say that the message is more important than the fact that the message is forged and this kind of remark from the secretary just feed it.

Just to refresh on today’s developments…

Hugh Hewitt recaps LtCol Killian’s secretary (from the Dallas Morning News):

Marian Carr Knox, who worked from 1956 to 1979 at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston, said she prided herself on meticulous typing, and the memos first disclosed by CBS News last week were not her work.

“These are not real,” she told The Dallas Morning News after examining copies of the disputed memos for the first time. “They’re not what I typed, and I would have typed them for him.”

Captain’s Quarters recaps ABC Evening News report that experts CBS hired to vet the documents told CBS they stunk to high heaven and CBS ignored them.

ABC’s Brian Ross interviewed the two experts who CBS hired to validate the National Guard documents and reports they ignored concerns they raised prior to the CBS News broadcast. “I did not feel that they wanted to investigate it very deeply,” Emily Will told Ross. “I did not authenticate anything and I don’t want it to be misunderstood that I did,” Linda James told Ross. Ross reports 2 experts told ABC News today that even the most advanced typewriter available in 1972 could not have produced the documents.

And Just One Minute put up a detailed debunking of the AWOL charge that, if I have it right, shows that not only did Dubya fulfill his ANG requirements, but served some time with a unit for which he was inelligible to receive either points or pay (i.e, he met all requirements and even served free of charge to boot).

At what point point does RatherCrooked have to concede point, set, and match?

Do not form views in the world through either knowledge, virtuous conduct, or religious observances; likewise, avoid thinking of oneself as being either superior, inferior, or equal to others.

The wise let go of the ’self’ and being free of attachments they depend not on knowledge. Nor do they dispute opinions or settle into any view.

For those who have no wishes for either extremes of becoming or non-becoming, here or in another existence, there is no settling into the views held by others.

Nor do they form the least notion in regard to views seen, heard, or thought out. How could one influence those wise ones who do not grasp at any views.

(from the Nipatha Sutra)

Well, it’d certainly work for me, but I don’t think that’s what I was really looking for.

In the meantime I just listened to Reese Schoenfield — who? — on Hannity&Colmes doing the same bit about how Bush shouldn’t refuse to address these allegatins just because “his experts” have managed to “suggest” the documents are forged.

Brent Bozell did manage to say what I’ve been looking for — that there was no point in addressing the allegations of something so obviously forged — but, dammit, why does it require Brent freaking Bozell to say what practically anyone ought to say>

Or something more diplomatically phrased to the same effect.

Would “Eat shit and die you stupid Moonbat!” work?

Obviously you are right. I was trying to say should Dan Rather and Co made some marginal effort toward creating passable forgeries, they could have also produced a numerous witnesses bolstering the content of the ìauthenticî memos, while dismissing any critics. Thatís where the ìseeing and raisingî of the witnessís statements came from.

I am only really curious how often they were successful in manipulating the ìnewsî in the past?

The fact that not even a old Democrat who is probably convinced she will lose her social security and have to eat cat food if Bush is reelected thinks the memos are the real deal.

You know it is just possible that Killian liked Bush, thought he was a good pilot but felt the young man knew he was not going to be activated and wanted to move on as he got to the end of his service. After all these years, how can we know?

Unlike Kerry he was not egotistical enough to immortalize his activities on film for posterity.

So we have Killian himself (OER) PLUS his son and wife vs. the secretary.

Yea, this game is moving beyond ridiculous. But it still demonstrates the awesome power that the MSM held over usÖuntil now.

Honestly, I think someone somewhere should just start saying “Look, the memos were forged. Why keep dragging them back out? You dn’t want to be associated with the forgery, do you?”

Or something more diplomatically phrased to the same effect.