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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/15/cbs-better-really-come-clean/#comment-15153</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Syl&lt;/b&gt;



I love the blogger in pajamas!



Sorry about your mom.



Older folks just loathe the guy.



My own mom, who is a naturally cheerful person, gets a tone of real venom in her voice when the subject of George Bush comes up.



A friend of mine said her own 80-year old mom told her George Bush &quot;should be assassinated.&quot;



Assassinated!



This is an 80-year old woman with major health problems.



I find that bizarre.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Syl</b></p>
<p>I love the blogger in pajamas!</p>
<p>Sorry about your mom.</p>
<p>Older folks just loathe the guy.</p>
<p>My own mom, who is a naturally cheerful person, gets a tone of real venom in her voice when the subject of George Bush comes up.</p>
<p>A friend of mine said her own 80-year old mom told her George Bush &#8220;should be assassinated.&#8221;</p>
<p>Assassinated!</p>
<p>This is an 80-year old woman with major health problems.</p>
<p>I find that bizarre.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that last post may be an indication that I, for one, typically &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; use preview.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that last post may be an indication that I, for one, typically <i>do</i> use preview.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Rick B&lt;/b&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;I also don&#039;t believe that most polling is reflecting that 5% shift at all. Using out of date sample weighting allows a false perception to be widely dissemninatedshould have found based on previous polling, right?



So you&#039;re endorsing Dick Morris&#039;s argument about this?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Rick B</b></p>
<blockquote><p>I also don&#8217;t believe that most polling is reflecting that 5% shift at all. Using out of date sample weighting allows a false perception to be widely dissemninatedshould have found based on previous polling, right?</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re endorsing Dick Morris&#8217;s argument about this?</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jamie Irons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Rick&lt;/b&gt;



Thanks! As you often do, you manage to be cogently analytical and funny in the same post!



Don&#039;t worry...Nina won&#039;t be looking for &quot;evidence,&quot; fresh or not, as she knows I never catch anything. And since Hot Creek is catch and release anyhow, assuming a miracle occurs and I land one, I&#039;ll have to toss it back!



Jamie Irons
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Rick</b></p>
<p>Thanks! As you often do, you manage to be cogently analytical and funny in the same post!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry&#8230;Nina won&#8217;t be looking for &#8220;evidence,&#8221; fresh or not, as she knows I never catch anything. And since Hot Creek is catch and release anyhow, assuming a miracle occurs and I land one, I&#8217;ll have to toss it back!</p>
<p>Jamie Irons</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ballard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie,



I haven&#039;t thought much about the electoral vote side. I do believe that the battleground is down to six or at most eight states now. People keep focusing on the Gore vote in &#039;00 and ignoring the &#039;02 election. I believe that the &#039;02 election was historical in nature and perhaps moreso than the &#039;04 election will be. The &#039;02 documented the 5% Republican shift and may have understated it. Many pundits put states that Gore won by more than 10% in the &quot;safe&quot; column. I don&#039;t believe that to be true. I also don&#039;t believe that most polling is reflecting that 5% shift at all. Using out of date sample weighting allows a false perception to be widely dissemninated. If you shift the sample by 5% suddenly you have a different electoral map. I really don&#039;t have a feel for the Dem stay at home yet. Kerry has inspired the lowest level of loyalty that I&#039;ve seen so it is very hard to judge where this will wind up.



Watch the campaigns, if Kerry starts spending time in NJ and/or CA then we could see W over 400 on Nov. 2.



I&#039;ll look over the splits while you&#039;re &quot;fishing&quot; (be sure that you buy the freshest &quot;evidence&quot; available before you head home). If you forget to cash all your chips, just throw them away, it&#039;s safer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t thought much about the electoral vote side. I do believe that the battleground is down to six or at most eight states now. People keep focusing on the Gore vote in &#8216;00 and ignoring the &#8216;02 election. I believe that the &#8216;02 election was historical in nature and perhaps moreso than the &#8216;04 election will be. The &#8216;02 documented the 5% Republican shift and may have understated it. Many pundits put states that Gore won by more than 10% in the &#8220;safe&#8221; column. I don&#8217;t believe that to be true. I also don&#8217;t believe that most polling is reflecting that 5% shift at all. Using out of date sample weighting allows a false perception to be widely dissemninated. If you shift the sample by 5% suddenly you have a different electoral map. I really don&#8217;t have a feel for the Dem stay at home yet. Kerry has inspired the lowest level of loyalty that I&#8217;ve seen so it is very hard to judge where this will wind up.</p>
<p>Watch the campaigns, if Kerry starts spending time in NJ and/or CA then we could see W over 400 on Nov. 2.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll look over the splits while you&#8217;re &#8220;fishing&#8221; (be sure that you buy the freshest &#8220;evidence&#8221; available before you head home). If you forget to cash all your chips, just throw them away, it&#8217;s safer.</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;shel&lt;/b&gt; Thanks!



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Recent correspondence with my 80-year old mom in CT:



Me: [an aside in an email about medical stuff, hurricanes, my cat, etc.] Did you hear about Dan Rather and Sixty Minutes using fake memos to attack Bush&#039;s National Guard service? Wooowie, what a scandal it&#039;s becoming.



Mom&#039;s response: I had to laugh at your reaction to the CBS news about Bush&#039;s service in the National Guard. Where were you when the Bush team was smearing Kerry&#039;s service and wounds in the Viet Nam War? I&#039;ll be glad when the elections are over. The issues are what interest me, like Bush&#039;s War in Iraq and &lt;b&gt;the way Social Security is being scrapped in order to get the money into Wall Street&lt;/b&gt;, etc. etc..You and I will never see eye to eye on the politics going on today - you hear what you want to hear and I do the same, so don&#039;t bring up the subject to me anymore. &lt;b&gt;You listen only to the Far Right expounders and I avoid them like the plague.&lt;/b&gt;



Emphasis mine.



Sigh.



BTW, I consider email public, not private, but this is the first time (I remember, anyway) that I&#039;ve quoted email without permission. So be it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>shel</b> Thanks!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Recent correspondence with my 80-year old mom in CT:</p>
<p>Me: [an aside in an email about medical stuff, hurricanes, my cat, etc.] Did you hear about Dan Rather and Sixty Minutes using fake memos to attack Bush&#8217;s National Guard service? Wooowie, what a scandal it&#8217;s becoming.</p>
<p>Mom&#8217;s response: I had to laugh at your reaction to the CBS news about Bush&#8217;s service in the National Guard. Where were you when the Bush team was smearing Kerry&#8217;s service and wounds in the Viet Nam War? I&#8217;ll be glad when the elections are over. The issues are what interest me, like Bush&#8217;s War in Iraq and <b>the way Social Security is being scrapped in order to get the money into Wall Street</b>, etc. etc..You and I will never see eye to eye on the politics going on today &#8211; you hear what you want to hear and I do the same, so don&#8217;t bring up the subject to me anymore. <b>You listen only to the Far Right expounders and I avoid them like the plague.</b></p>
<p>Emphasis mine.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
<p>BTW, I consider email public, not private, but this is the first time (I remember, anyway) that I&#8217;ve quoted email without permission. So be it.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie (Colorado)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Over the next couple of days I&#039;ll be fly fishing at Hot Creek Ranch. (Close as it is to Nevada, and in spite of what the name may suggest, it&#039;s not that kind of ranch!)&lt;/i&gt;



Goddamn showoffs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Over the next couple of days I&#8217;ll be fly fishing at Hot Creek Ranch. (Close as it is to Nevada, and in spite of what the name may suggest, it&#8217;s not that kind of ranch!)</i></p>
<p>Goddamn showoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Irons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Fresh Air&lt;/b&gt;



Thanks!



&lt;b&gt;Rick&lt;/b&gt;



;-)  Funny, as usual.



Now that you&#039;re out of the bat cave, what&#039;s your take on Kerry&#039;s electoral chances at this moment? (Asked with straight face.)



Jamie Irons


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Fresh Air</b></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p><b>Rick</b></p>
<p> <img src='http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Funny, as usual.</p>
<p>Now that you&#8217;re out of the bat cave, what&#8217;s your take on Kerry&#8217;s electoral chances at this moment? (Asked with straight face.)</p>
<p>Jamie Irons</p>
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		<title>By: Knucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,



I understand that they believe they&#039;ve chosen &quot;C&quot;.  I&#039;m also pretty sure that when the histories are written 25 years hence it will be clear that they chose &quot;A&quot; overwhelmingly.  Self-delusion.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I understand that they believe they&#8217;ve chosen &#8220;C&#8221;.  I&#8217;m also pretty sure that when the histories are written 25 years hence it will be clear that they chose &#8220;A&#8221; overwhelmingly.  Self-delusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ballard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;what was the type of the source document&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;



Jamie,



It&#039;s very hard to say but the partialy erased phrase:



&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Word2000 is a regis&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



may provide a hint.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>&#8220;what was the type of the source document&#8221;</b></i></p>
<p>Jamie,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very hard to say but the partialy erased phrase:</p>
<blockquote><p><i><b>Word2000 is a regis</b><b><i></i></b></i></p></blockquote>
<p>may provide a hint.</p>
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