76 Comments

1. Syl:

Heh.

I lost my mind when I decided policies that led to sep 11 should be replaced. I lost my mind when I decided that the status quo in the world had to change.

If Edwards thinks that changing one’s mind means losing one’s mind, he is a true reactionary.

Oct 5, 2004 - 7:01 am 2. David Thomson:

“I’d say if you live in the United States of America and you vote for George Bush, you’ve lost your mind.”

–John Edwards

This is an incredibly stupid statement. My guess is that it was not planned, but an inadvertently slip of the tongue. It violates one the first rules of salesmanship 101: never take a chance of insulting the prospectís intelligence. Edwardís insane comment will only irritate the swing voter and further harden the resolve of President Bushís committed voters. And yes, I believe that Dick Cheney will easily win tonightís debate. Edwards is a light weight who merely possesses superb acting skills which are useful in a court room milieu. There is not the slightest evidence that he is even able to read a serious nonfiction work.

Oct 5, 2004 - 7:10 am 3. Lola:

It’s a really stupid statement to make on the eve of the debate. I’m afraid Edwards is going to get his ass headed back to him on a silver platter. FWIW, I deeply resent being marked stoooopid becuz I’m voting for Dubya. No soup for you, Edwards! Next!

Oct 5, 2004 - 7:20 am 4. Marilou:

Maureen Dowd already called me stupid for being a deluded security mom, so I’m used to being insulted by people trying to get me to change my mind. I do not recommend this strategy to my children.

Oct 5, 2004 - 7:21 am 5. Catherine:

These guys can’t lose soon enough for me.

Oct 5, 2004 - 7:31 am 6. richard mcenroe:

Roger ó

You better stop. Look around.

Here it comes.

Here it comes.

Here it comes.

Here it comes.

Here comes your nineteenth nervous breakdown…

Oct 5, 2004 - 7:31 am 7. Fausta:

First dumb, now crazy. The arguments of a campaign empty of substance.

Oct 5, 2004 - 7:50 am 8. Bill:

Is it me or does the pickie of Edwards look like the mirror-universe version of Sid 3.7?

Oct 5, 2004 - 8:03 am 9. Sandy P:

Well, there’s a textbook case as to how to make friends and influence people.

And him a sweet-talkin’ southern breck girl, too!

Oct 5, 2004 - 8:12 am 10. Matt Evans:

I agree with David Thomson- Cheney should trounce Edwards in any debate.

Trial lawyers do not necessarily make good politicians and are not necessarily great public speakers- even rich “successful” lawyers like Edwards. I’ve tried a number of cases and the dynamics of speaking to 12 people about another person sitting across the room, who’s injured (at least in theory) is very different then a debate format- if anything, debates are much more like oral argument in appellate advocacy – you have an alotted time to speak and you’re asked questions by a moderator, similar to how a judge panel asks questions during oral argument.

Obviously, its possible for lawyers to be good at both appellate and courtroom advocacy but Edwards has not convinced me he can do well in a formal setting- maybe its that he seems to have some trouble thinking on his feet- look no further then his steadfast reliance on his stump speeches during the primaries and his significantly lessened visability during the campaign. Perhaps Kerry folks came to this same conclusion and have kept him out of the public eye.

Cheney, on the other hand, is a thinker with as much experience as anybody in Washington on the subject of governing the nation. He may come across as a gruff old fart but I don’t think anyone doubts Cheney’s smarts or his experience. If anything, the efforts by the left to demonize Cheney speaks volumes about how frightened they are of him as a political opponent.

Oct 5, 2004 - 8:40 am 11. Eric Deamer:

I’ve pretty much taken it for granted that Cheney will clean Edwards’s clock in the debate, I mean just destroy him. Edwards is way, way out of his depth here (though maybe he can sue for emotional damages?). My question, to anyone who knows about this stuff, is will this actually matter? Do VP debates actually change “the dynamics of the race” and all that jazz?

Oct 5, 2004 - 8:42 am 12. NorthShore:

Such a thoughtful argument as, “Do this or ‘you’ve lost your mind’” (i.e., “you’re crazy”) is only persuasive to the same crowd as feel seriously taunted by, “Nah, nah, nah.” This speaks volumes more about those that are, in fact, persuaded by him.

Dems seem to be divided between those that can’t think through any serious arguments (the cowering masses), and the elite who consider themselves anointed to lead them. Edwards is obviously arguing to the former.

Oct 5, 2004 - 8:53 am 13. Silicon valley Jim:

Interesting picture of the ambulance chaser. He’s talking out of only one side of his mouth instead of the usual both.

Oct 5, 2004 - 9:02 am 14. Rick Ballard:

Eric,

I heard Larry Sabbato yesterday on Fox saying that Quayle’s performance in his ‘88 debate cost GWHB about 2% at the polls. Bentsen’s “you’re no John Kennedy” line was as good a smackdown as has occured in a debate. I hope that Dick has a nice bowl of ground glass for breakfast in preparation for this evenings encounter with Sen. Purdymouth. I agree with Matt Evans that courtroom skills at the trial rather than apellate level are very overated in terms of applicability to debates. Purdymouth has been an absolute null factor in the campaign to date while Cheney has been doing a very good job in generating enthusiasm at his events.

Purdymouth’s problems stem more from the singular ineptitude of the Kerry campaign’s slovenly advance work than from his cornpone style. He’s a skillful liar with a winsome smile so he should be having a greater effect. He’s going to sink without a ripple after Nov. 2.

Oct 5, 2004 - 9:04 am 15. lindenen:

Let’s just hope Cheney can rein in that Evil!Dick thing he’s got going on. Oh, come on. I don’t buy the hype about Halliburton but Cheney is a sinister-looking guy. Maybe I feel that way because of the incessant propaganda I’ve been fed, but visually the man’s a troll next to Edwards and if he comes off as too aggressive or does that mouth-growl thing he has, it could be really bad for Bush. He has beady eyes.

Oct 5, 2004 - 9:22 am 16. Knucklehead:

Reminds me of one of my buddies who said, “Nobody with any moral character could possible vote for Bush.”

Needless to say it didn’t take much effort to demonstrate to him that it was a clueless statement that required immediate retraction.

Oct 5, 2004 - 9:35 am 17. Syl:

lindenen

Even Maureen Dowd has noticed some pictures of Cheney at his ranch that make him look like Shane. I couldn’t find the photo she mentioned of Cheney on horseback leading his granddaughter’s pony. EvilDick not!

I did find one of Cheney on horseback though.

Oct 5, 2004 - 9:41 am 18. Syl:

Shoot. Preview messed it up…

I did find one of Cheney on horseback though.

Oct 5, 2004 - 9:41 am 19. sauer39h:

I don’t know if the Edwards statement is all that bad …. Consider the statement, “if you live in the United States of America and you vote for a surrender monkey during a world war, you’ve lost your mind.” That makes perfect sense. The converse of a sensible statement is also a sensible statement. It’s dead wrong, but not totally nutzoid.

Don’t get me wrong, though. I want nothing but a crushing defeat for my old party, now that the Donks have gone reactionary. I am going to miss the 2-party system, though, if they do get their just deserts.

Oct 5, 2004 - 9:42 am 20. Syl:

It’s only Tuesday. Sigh.

I did find one of Cheney on horseback though.

Oct 5, 2004 - 9:43 am 21. Syl:

Sorry, Roger. LOL

THIS IS IT I PROMISE

Oct 5, 2004 - 9:45 am 22. JorgXMcKie:

Just proves Dan Quayle was being prophetic. “A mind is a terrible thing to lose. Or never have had one at all.” (Or whatever the exact quote was.)

Oct 5, 2004 - 10:02 am 23. Peg C.:

I know this is ad hominem but there’s no other way to put it. The Breck Girl is a supercilious twit. It’s inconceivable to me that anyone takes him seriously.

Oct 5, 2004 - 10:14 am 24. Percy Dovetonsils:

At least he’s finally being honest. The Dems truly think that they are the intellectual superiors of Republicans.

Somehow, I think, “Vote for us, peon!” as a political slogan isn’t going to go down in history like “Tippecanoe and Tyler Too,” or “54:40 or Fight”.

Oct 5, 2004 - 10:30 am 25. Raging_Toroid:

I was in a parking lot the other day and I saw a bumper sticker that said something to the effect “Idiots for Bush” and then in smaller type “Because only an Idiot could support this president”- or something like that. This was along with the more common “Somewhere in Texas a village is missing it’s idiot” that you’ve probably seen. My first thought in response to that one is always “Oh, you’re from Texas?”.

In any case, I think these bumper stickers mainly serve as a form of therapy for their owner. They seem essentially self-defeating as a message, since they are pretty much guaranteed to alienate anyone not already in their camp. “If you don’t agree with me you’re an idiot” isn’t an argument that convinces a lot of people. Maybe I haven’t been looking in the right places but I just haven’t seen equivalant Republican bumper-stickers. Somebody once said “The left is looking for heretics, the right is looking for converts”, and it still seems true.

Oct 5, 2004 - 10:53 am 26. RogerA:

OT but tangentially relevant: Our friends at Polipundit.com have some pretty good poll analyses. DJ Drummond has an excellent discussion of polling and weighting and other aspects about polls here: http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=4338

Written in non-technical language for the statistic phobes.

Oct 5, 2004 - 11:16 am 27. vegetius:

Here in North Carolina, the Breck Girl has secured this state for Bush. Burr (R) has pulled even with Bowles (D) in the Senate race.

Easley (D) is still ahead of his R challeger for Govenor but he has maintained a long cool distance betwixt himself and the Silky Pony trial lawyer.

He might play well in Iowa but he’ll need a long and painful political rehabilitation to win elective office in NC again.

His vote against the 87M for body armor etc., will

be remembered for a generation in this state with a high military active and retired population.

Bush takes NC easily and Burr (R) replaces Edwards

in the Senate.

Oct 5, 2004 - 11:54 am 28. Rulen:

Call me crazy

Oct 5, 2004 - 12:03 pm 29. Syl:

You know, these people really do make sh*t up. This is from an AP story on the debate tonite:

Edwards will respond to criticism of his years as a trial lawyer by pointing out that he represented average people in their fight against powerful interests, Kerry senior adviser Joe Lockhart said.

“The American public needs an advocate like that,” Lockhart told CNN, “as opposed to somebody who has a vested special interest in Washington, ran Halliburton, now probably one of the most shameful companies in America, just before he came to the White House … and is still making money off of Halliburton.”

Emphasis mine….it’s lies. Pure and simple.

For the real Halliburton skinny catch this from the WSJ.

Oct 5, 2004 - 12:26 pm 30. crazyforbush:

Better to have lost ones mind than to have lost ones soul.

Oct 5, 2004 - 12:42 pm 31. Lola:

So they’re going to be trotting out Halliburton? Say, does Teresa HK have some stock invested in the company? I hope Cheney brings this up first so as to make it off-topic for the rest of the debate.

Oct 5, 2004 - 12:42 pm 32. Mark Poling:

Edwards, looking down at the object on the platter handed to him by V.P. Cheyney:

“So THAT’S what my ass looks like.”

Oct 5, 2004 - 12:56 pm 33. Mark Poling:

On a more serious note, to answer a question from earlier in the thread, the Cheney/Lieberman debate back in 2000 was tremendously influential, at least on me. I had serious misgivings about both candidates, but I worried that Bush didn’t have the experience to act effectively on the international stage.

The Cheney/Lieberman debate made me feel better about both Presidential candidates, because I thought their choices reflected well on them. Cheney helped Bush more than Lieberman helped Gore because he shored up a big weakness for Bush.

The same dynamic obviously isn’t in play tonight, because Bush now has his own track record, for good or for ill. Edwards on the other hand can hurt Kerry badly if he comes across as a lightweight, or worse.

FWIW, I think Cheney is one of those lucky, rare individuals who looks better on TV than in real life or photos. I remember thinking during the last Vice-Presidential debate that I wouldn’t mind having dinner or a few beers with either Cheney or Lieberman. (Both were so much better on TV than Bush or Gore, the common theme afterward was “Flip the tickets, please!”) I don’t expect there to be a charisma advantage for Edwards — in fact, I’d give the advantage to Cheney, and I don’t know that Democrats see that coming. So there’s a real chance they’ll be blindsided by post-debate reactions.

Oct 5, 2004 - 1:09 pm 34. Old Dad:

Now let me see if I’ve got this straight.

If I’m uncomfortable with Jacques Chirac having veto power over U.S. policy, then I’m crazy?

Call me crazy!

Oct 5, 2004 - 1:25 pm 35. Lola:

I hope you’re right Mark Poling. Call me paranoid, but what if the reason Edwards has been so quiet is because he’s been getting extensive coaching in debating? Naaah . . .

Oct 5, 2004 - 1:35 pm 36. your buddy vladimir:

Where did you sick puppies get this supposed quote from?

Seriously, I was tooling around the net, found instapundit.com through a blog tutorial, and casually scrolled down to check out the content. I saw a post by one Glenn Reynolds called “VOTE FOR ME OR YOU’RE CRAZY: Sounds like bad salesmanship to me.” I clicked and ended up not at a news story, not on your candidate’s official site, but at this blog.

I read the “quote.”

I thought, “oh my, did Edwards really say that?” And so, having enough self respect to want to have a good look at the origins (you know, facts?) of the story, I put every group of search terms I could think of into the Yahoo and Google search engines.

As only some of you realize, and you know who you are, there was nothing to be found anywhere! This NEVER HAPPENED. Still want to say it did? C’mon then, prove it. Give me just one URL; and try not to make it a Fox affiliate will you?

Do your own fact checking, folks.

Pooty

Oct 5, 2004 - 1:41 pm 37. Lola:

Pooty, here’s more homework for you . . . go over to National Review site, click on Kerry Spot, and do a find on Nightline. For extra credit, do a deeper search on one of the clues I gave you.

Oct 5, 2004 - 1:45 pm 38. Terrye:

Not the Halliburton thing again.

I was born in a little town called Duncan Oklahoma, just about 20 miles east of Fort Still and Lawton.

Halliburton, oil and cattle were the main stays of that town. To a large extent Halliburton still is.

Halliburton was on the edge of town in a long low brick building that looks like a post war schoolhouse. It has been there as long as I can remember.

All those Okies that get up and go to work there will be amazed to find out they are shameful.

Calling people crazy because they don’t agree with you, calling a company that every administration [including the Frigging Democrats] has done business with for the last 50 years shameful is stupid.

Oct 5, 2004 - 1:47 pm 39. PeterUK:

No the bright side Roger,the straight jacket will stop you hurling your glass at the television every time Monsieur Kerry appears,think of the saving in liquor.

Oct 5, 2004 - 1:47 pm 40. Terrye:

Pooty:

I believe it, it sounds just like him.

Considering all the crap the Dems have thrown out there without anything remotely resembling evidence how some you worry about this?

Oct 5, 2004 - 1:50 pm 41. rumblestrip:

PERCY DOVETONSILS (Jeez, I just love that name)

So the DEMs think that they are our intellectual superiors?

Really? Superior to us? What cheek!

Oct 5, 2004 - 1:59 pm 42. your buddy vladimir:

Terrye:

How come I worry about this? What an incredible question. I simply want to know if the accused actually said those words. It’s written out like a quote on this page. But if Edwards never said it, then that would be something called “wrong.”

You say the Dems say things without any evidence to back it up. Have you ever tried to see if there’s any evidence? Will you at least do what I did and try to find the source of this quote? If you can’t then think on it: it’s not that Edwards takes you for an idiot, it’s that SOMEONE IN YOUR OWN CAMP thinks you’re an idiot because that someone has confidence that if he/she tells a lie you’d like to hear, you’ll gobble it up.

Oct 5, 2004 - 2:00 pm 43. Sandy P:

pooty-poot, Drudge has the link.

Dem vp hopeful John Edwards cut to the chase last night on ABCNEWS NIGHTLINE:

ABC’S BOB WOODRUFF: “He has avoided the kind of negative attacks that can make national news, although recently, he has stepped up his rhetoric.”

SEN. JOHN EDWARDS (D-NC) (clip of a speech): “I’d say if you live in the United States of America and you vote for George Bush, you’ve lost your mind.”

WOODRUFF: “There’s been criticism that you have been too soft.”

EDWARDS: “Do I seem soft to you?”—-

—-

Welcome to the blogosphere (coined by Dailypundit Bill Quick), motto “Fact-checking your ass.” – Ken Layne

END

Tue Oct 05 2004 08:57:47 ET

Oct 5, 2004 - 2:13 pm 44. Sandy P:

And as to the lies and the liars who tell them? Right back at you.

If you want some real fun and education, go to Rantburg.

Oct 5, 2004 - 2:15 pm 45. PeterUK:

Just coincidentally on the night of the debate your buddy vladimir appears,why does he doubt this when his party encompasses such bloated bladders of mendacity as Michael Moore,Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton?

Why do people believe it,because the Democrats have got previous form.

Oct 5, 2004 - 2:16 pm 46. Sandy P:

There’s a blog tutorial?????

Are you setting up your own????

Somewhere out there is a dictionary of blog lingo, I know Glenn linked to it a long, long time ago.

Oct 5, 2004 - 2:17 pm 47. Sandy P:

And another tip for Roger’s site.

If it’s in blue as the word “friends” is in his post, it’s the link.

Oct 5, 2004 - 2:18 pm 48. Terrye:

buddy:

yeah right.

You know for two years now I have listened to Democrats [I used to be one} say the most outrageous things about Bush. They make nasty little movies and then invite the propaganda artist to the DNC, the take advantge of forged documents, they make accusations of war profiteering against Cheney but there is no evidence to back this stuff up.

They are Democrats, ergo the rules that apply to the likes of Bush and Cheney do not apply to them.

Why wouldn’t I believe this? They have trained me to.

Oct 5, 2004 - 2:42 pm 49. Katherine:

ìI don’t buy the hype about Halliburton but Cheney is a sinister-looking guy.î

Lindenen

I find this observation strangely reassuring. I want this administration to considered dangerous and sinister. I want rest of the world to finally be afraid of us. At this point we are a bit closerto this goal, but not close enough. I remember few months after 9/11 one British journalist whining with outrage: ìWhat do they (the American administration) mean? Kill Americans and you are dead meat?î

I want to everybody out there to remove the question mark from the second sentence. Yes, kill Americans and you are dead meat. Maybe it will finally sink in and we will be able to sleep ñ in peace.

Everbody

Isnít it nice that S-factor is back! I love you all, my fellow Stupids!

Oct 5, 2004 - 2:51 pm 50. Mark Poling:

Hey, not only have many of us lost our minds, Kerry assures us we’re pathetic as well.

Kerry: energizing the (wrong) base.

Oct 5, 2004 - 2:53 pm 51. Mark Poling:

I mean, I’m having trouble letting this go. These guys claim to be the smart ones? Jeez…

Oct 5, 2004 - 2:54 pm 52. Mark Poling:

Woo Hoo! I didn’t read far enough down. It just get’s better:

“But I can do a better job of protecting America’s security because the test that I was talking about was a test of legitimacy, not just in the globe, but elsewhere.

(Emphasis added.)

Same CNN story:

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/04/kerry.global/index.html

I made a joke over on Totten’s site about Bush’s Alien Overlords, but maybe Kerry knows something I don’t…

God, I hope they got that on camera.

Oct 5, 2004 - 3:00 pm 53. Mark Poling:

…But I bet his hair and nails were perfect when he said it.

Oct 5, 2004 - 3:03 pm 54. vnjagvet:

I note that our buddy vlad a/k/a pooty has not thanked Sandy P. Nor has he reappeared to acknowlege the essential accuracy of Roger’s blog entry.

His lack of manners is sure annoying. But not surprising.

I wonder if we have lost him forever. Pity.

Oct 5, 2004 - 3:41 pm 55. chuck:

Katherine,

To add to your comment:

On learning of his appointment, King characteristically had the last word about himself: “When they get into trouble they send for the sons of bitches.”

That’s admiral King of WWII fame.

Oct 5, 2004 - 4:00 pm 56. Matt Evans:

Have a game going with folks at work- everytime Haliburton is mentioned, we do a shot.

At least 2 are currently undecided and uninformed. They asked “whats haliburton” and I explained it. One’s response was “thats so petty”. I agreed.

I have a feeling I’m gonna be hung over tomorrow as a result of the game.

Oct 5, 2004 - 4:14 pm 57. Rick Ballard:

vnjagvet,

I’ve noticed a distinct fall off in the overall quality of trolls over the past few weeks. There was a brief flurry two weeks ago but recently things have been very quiet. Perhaps DtP has them locked in a closet in Ohio.

Oct 5, 2004 - 4:15 pm 58. mrp:

Oh, man. Jim Geraghty at Kerry Spot is making some mischief

Oct 5, 2004 - 4:21 pm 59. RogerA:

Rick Ballard and VNJAGVET: the lack of trolls is interesting–we used to have a few who had access to the latest dem talking points (irrespective of the thread topic). I used to think the DNC used to target some blogs for mischief; if that be the case, then perhaps they have written this blog off as incorrigible.

Matt Evans: I’m with you;; Halliburton is the term! I probably should have gotten a second bottle of Myers for tonite.

Oct 5, 2004 - 4:30 pm 60. RogerA:

Rick: you mentioned DtP. He has not been nearly posting nearly as often, but then I remembered that Oct 15 tax returns are due forthwith; I am sure DtP is racking up those billable hours. I do admire the focus of accountants!

Oct 5, 2004 - 4:33 pm 61. Terrye:

It seems to me that the trolls kind of started to trail away after the whole forged memo thing.

I have had some interesting conversations with Dmeocrats who are thrilled their candidate did not start speaking in tongues or anything at the debate, but I think maybe they are kind of sitting back and waiting.

and hoping.

and offering up virgins and chanting.

Oct 5, 2004 - 5:00 pm 62. RogerA:

I will forego the chanting for a chance at the virgins.

Oct 5, 2004 - 5:03 pm 63. DennisThePeasant:

RogerA-

Believe me, I’d rather focus in on some virgins.

Rick-

Trolls have dropped off primarily because all but the dimmest of them have to come to understand that Kerry has lost this election.

For all the post-debate hype, the reality is that all Kerry did was demonstrate that he isn’t a world-class doofus 100% of the time. Stopping the bleeding is not tantamount to getting back into the election. As I said last week, if Kerry starts putting money back into advertising in states where he had earlier shut down, his internals would be showing some real movement. We haven’t seen that…in fact, here in Ohio, one of those essential ‘battleground’ states Kerry must win, polls are consistently showing him about 8 points down, and I have seen only one Kerry ad in the past two weeks, and only two pro-Kerry 527 ads in the past week. MORE importantly, Bush cut his ads way back in Ohio about a week and a half ago. Both campaigns know Bush has won Ohio.

The trolls aren’t around because they are busy trying to figure out a scenario under which they can claim they were cheated out of victory.

By my estimation, this race was over on or about Sept. 21…stick a fork in Kerry, because he is well and truly done.

Oct 5, 2004 - 6:15 pm 64. Rick Ballard:

Edwards is not doing well at all. Cheney got off to a bit of a rocky start but Edwards is just repeating talking points and avoiding answering at all. Cheney is chewing him up a good bit.

Now I know why they’re keeping him out of sight.

Oct 5, 2004 - 6:31 pm 65. richard mcenroe:

Hit those polls, people…

ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com

AOL News: http://news.aol.com

CBS News: http://www.cbsnews.com

CNBC: http://moneycentral.com

CNN: http://www.cnn.com.

CNN Pundit Scorecard: http://www.cnn.com/Election/special/president/debate.html

FoxNews: http://www.foxnews.com

MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn

USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com

Time: http://www.time.com/ … (Right side)

Wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com

Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com

Oct 5, 2004 - 6:37 pm 66. Sandy P:

Is it me or does The Breck Girl sound like a 1-note song?

He keeps harping on the same stuff. We get it, sonny. Answer the question.

Oct 5, 2004 - 6:38 pm 67. Rick Ballard:

Sandy P,

He’s a vicious attack Chihuahua. Cheney’s socks and cuffs are in tatters.

Oct 5, 2004 - 6:50 pm 68. richard mcenroe:

Sandy P ó If he could answer the question he wouldn’t be harping on the same stuff… Cheney is having a good night.

Oct 5, 2004 - 6:53 pm 69. Charlie (Colorado):

I’ve never understood this interest in virgins. Practice makes perfect.

Oct 5, 2004 - 6:57 pm 70. richard mcenroe:

Cheney just singed Edwards with his Chapter S tax dodge.

Oct 5, 2004 - 7:12 pm 71. spikethedog:

If the only decision was to pick between Cheney and Edwards, this race would be a TKO. Edwards comes across as a shameless opportunist, while Cheney has more facts at hand about how the Federal government works than – gulp — even Bush.

Cheney’s ko punch: telling Edwards he’s never in the Senate, and that he, Cheney, presides over the Senate and had never even met Edwards until tonight.

Oct 5, 2004 - 7:39 pm 72. chuck:

Ahhh…that felt much better.

Oct 5, 2004 - 7:47 pm 73. Terrye:

I wish to God the Democrats would either pull the Halliburton contracts or shut the hell up.

Clinton gave that deal to Halliburton in Kososvo without any bitching and moaning whatever and if it were not something they could bitch about you would not be hearing about it now.

awol and halliburton

awol and halliburton.

You are getting sleepy. Your eyes are very heavy.

awol and halliburton

awol and halliburton.

Oct 5, 2004 - 7:59 pm 74. Katherine:

You guys are sure that those virgins you are after are not the ìSultanasî aka raisins?

Oct 5, 2004 - 9:20 pm 75. RogerA:

Katherine: I see you read Nick Kristof’s column–If he’s correct in terms of the etymology, there are going to be one hell of a lot of disappointed martyrs!

Oct 6, 2004 - 8:06 am 76. Marksman:

Dick Cheney may be a mean, nasty, highly intelligent bastard, but he’s OUR mean, nasty, highly intelligent bastard.

I’d vote for John Kerry if he had Cheney as his VP candidate, instead of Senator Gone. Cheney looks as if he’s ready to take any waffler or defeatist in his administration behind the woodshed for a swift attitude adjustment. I like that. For too long “terrorists can run, but they can’t hide” has been just a slogan. It’s time to put some spunk into that. Dick Cheney is the man for the job.

Oct 7, 2004 - 5:07 pm

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