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		<title>By: docweasel</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/10/17/team-america/#comment-22051</link>
		<dc:creator>docweasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KevinP:

Ebert is writing a sequel to his first movie - http://imdb.com/title/tt0065466/ - combined with TA:WP according to imDB.com: Beyond the Valley of the Puppets
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KevinP:</p>
<p>Ebert is writing a sequel to his first movie &#8211; <a href="http://imdb.com/title/tt0065466/" rel="nofollow">http://imdb.com/title/tt0065466/</a> &#8211; combined with TA:WP according to imDB.com: Beyond the Valley of the Puppets</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Evans</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/10/17/team-america/#comment-22050</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feeling left out, I went and caught Team America last night.  I haven&#039;t laughed that hard in a long time.  Skewering the FAG&#039;s (thats Film Actor&#039;s Guild btw) was the best part of the movie- Sean Penn&#039;s puppet was hilarious and hideous all at the same time and they perfectly captured Tim Robbins pseudo-intellectual rambling.  Michael Moore as the world&#039;s fattest suicide bomber- priceless.



Yes, the movie will be offensive to some people I guess but its so obviously satire that it really shouldn&#039;t be that offensive.  I may subject my fiancee to it this weekend and get her reaction - she won&#039;t be able to watch the vomit scene (which had me in tears I was laughing so hard- I suppose I&#039;m in touch with my 4 yr. old child !)



Matt Damon !!!




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feeling left out, I went and caught Team America last night.  I haven&#8217;t laughed that hard in a long time.  Skewering the FAG&#8217;s (thats Film Actor&#8217;s Guild btw) was the best part of the movie- Sean Penn&#8217;s puppet was hilarious and hideous all at the same time and they perfectly captured Tim Robbins pseudo-intellectual rambling.  Michael Moore as the world&#8217;s fattest suicide bomber- priceless.</p>
<p>Yes, the movie will be offensive to some people I guess but its so obviously satire that it really shouldn&#8217;t be that offensive.  I may subject my fiancee to it this weekend and get her reaction &#8211; she won&#8217;t be able to watch the vomit scene (which had me in tears I was laughing so hard- I suppose I&#8217;m in touch with my 4 yr. old child !)</p>
<p>Matt Damon !!!</p>
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		<title>By: MichelefromLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichelefromLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello JOHN ClAYTON!!! Anyone home?



Yikes!! Are you a publicist?? Or are you just out of your ever-lovin&#039; mind?  You wrote:



&quot;By the way, it occurs to me that the right wing anger towards actors isn&#039;t that actors&#039; views are uninformed- it&#039;s precisely the opposite. Many outspoken actors have taken the time to become informed,&quot;



Remember Sean Penn was led around Iraq by Saddam&#039;s people.  Do you seriously think he REALLY saw Iraq as it was? Doesn&#039;t Sean &quot;Shanghai Surprise/Spicoli&quot; Penn sound a little naive?



And don&#039;t get me started on Michael Moore...but then maybe you&#039;re kidding.  I have a hard time believing any adult with an un-lobotimized brain can think a cleverly edited partial story - is a documentary.  Yes, I remember the mellow days of Saddam&#039;s Iraq...butterflies, kites, children laughing in the sunshine, ah..yes.



Not to mention Millionare-Moore&#039;s obsession with money.  His strange theories that good people committ horrible crimes only due to poverity, while condeming corporations as evil.



Personally, I&#039;ve been on all sides -



A struggling actress living out of my car.  But I didn&#039;t committ any crimes.  (There goes poverty causes crime theory.)



Needing to pay my bills, an evil corporation provided a nice salary, benefits, Christmas bonus and stocks. (Damn that evil corporation!)



Now as a business owner, I suppose I&#039;m the evil salary provider. (I whip my slaves if they don&#039;t produce fast enough! Bwaahaahaaahaaaaa..........



John Clayton, you and Michael Moore need to live a little.  Maybe one day you&#039;ll see how the real world works, rather than in theory or in the editing room.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello JOHN ClAYTON!!! Anyone home?</p>
<p>Yikes!! Are you a publicist?? Or are you just out of your ever-lovin&#8217; mind?  You wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;By the way, it occurs to me that the right wing anger towards actors isn&#8217;t that actors&#8217; views are uninformed- it&#8217;s precisely the opposite. Many outspoken actors have taken the time to become informed,&#8221;</p>
<p>Remember Sean Penn was led around Iraq by Saddam&#8217;s people.  Do you seriously think he REALLY saw Iraq as it was? Doesn&#8217;t Sean &#8220;Shanghai Surprise/Spicoli&#8221; Penn sound a little naive?</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t get me started on Michael Moore&#8230;but then maybe you&#8217;re kidding.  I have a hard time believing any adult with an un-lobotimized brain can think a cleverly edited partial story &#8211; is a documentary.  Yes, I remember the mellow days of Saddam&#8217;s Iraq&#8230;butterflies, kites, children laughing in the sunshine, ah..yes.</p>
<p>Not to mention Millionare-Moore&#8217;s obsession with money.  His strange theories that good people committ horrible crimes only due to poverity, while condeming corporations as evil.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve been on all sides -</p>
<p>A struggling actress living out of my car.  But I didn&#8217;t committ any crimes.  (There goes poverty causes crime theory.)</p>
<p>Needing to pay my bills, an evil corporation provided a nice salary, benefits, Christmas bonus and stocks. (Damn that evil corporation!)</p>
<p>Now as a business owner, I suppose I&#8217;m the evil salary provider. (I whip my slaves if they don&#8217;t produce fast enough! Bwaahaahaaahaaaaa&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>John Clayton, you and Michael Moore need to live a little.  Maybe one day you&#8217;ll see how the real world works, rather than in theory or in the editing room.</p>
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		<title>By: MichelefromLA</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Clayton wrote -



&quot;they don&#039;t work as satire. Just pure silliness. I will wager that Clooney, Affleck, and Damon, to name three, probably will laugh when they see the movie. Who knows, maybe Kevin Smith will do a sendup of Parker &amp; Stone, and Damon and Affleck will participate.&quot;



Eewww....are you kidding?  Kevin Smith is a bore.

But then, I don&#039;t agree with any thing else you&#039;ve written either.






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Clayton wrote -</p>
<p>&#8220;they don&#8217;t work as satire. Just pure silliness. I will wager that Clooney, Affleck, and Damon, to name three, probably will laugh when they see the movie. Who knows, maybe Kevin Smith will do a sendup of Parker &amp; Stone, and Damon and Affleck will participate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Eewww&#8230;.are you kidding?  Kevin Smith is a bore.</p>
<p>But then, I don&#8217;t agree with any thing else you&#8217;ve written either.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin P</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 04:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Docweasel:



Are you sure that Ebert would be offended by the comparison? After all the Dear Leader is a ABB man so Ebert might not mind the comparison.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Docweasel:</p>
<p>Are you sure that Ebert would be offended by the comparison? After all the Dear Leader is a ABB man so Ebert might not mind the comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: docweasel</title>
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		<dc:creator>docweasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 03:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no big mystery to me why Ebert hated it- anyone see a resemblance? 

http://docweasel.com/kim.jpg




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no big mystery to me why Ebert hated it- anyone see a resemblance? </p>
<p><a href="http://docweasel.com/kim.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://docweasel.com/kim.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie (Colorado)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peg C, you need to check out the entire &lt;i&gt;South Park ouvre&lt;/i&gt;.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/guide.html?season=1&amp;min=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Episode 112&lt;/a&gt; might be a good one for you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peg C, you need to check out the entire <i>South Park ouvre</i>.  <a href="http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/guide.html?season=1&amp;min=2" rel="nofollow">Episode 112</a> might be a good one for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Peg C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peg C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We saw it yesterday; I liked it, hubby did not. I will say up front, I have never watched porn and this movie didn&#039;t bother me, it made me laugh. He had a problem with the sex (the gay sex scene in particular). The alley vomit scene was ridiculous and you have to be in touch with your inner 14 yr. old boy (something I&#039;m grateful to know nothing about) to enjoy it. Watching Hollywood actors get blown up, eaten by housecats, etc., was quite amusing and cathartic to both of us. Oh, for more of that! Where was Babs, though? I&#039;d have given a lot to see her come to a violent and messy end.



I didn&#039;t laugh my head off, though, and that disappointed me. Overall I&#039;d give it a B. (Technically it is excellent and the music is great. And the anatomy lesson is priceless!)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We saw it yesterday; I liked it, hubby did not. I will say up front, I have never watched porn and this movie didn&#8217;t bother me, it made me laugh. He had a problem with the sex (the gay sex scene in particular). The alley vomit scene was ridiculous and you have to be in touch with your inner 14 yr. old boy (something I&#8217;m grateful to know nothing about) to enjoy it. Watching Hollywood actors get blown up, eaten by housecats, etc., was quite amusing and cathartic to both of us. Oh, for more of that! Where was Babs, though? I&#8217;d have given a lot to see her come to a violent and messy end.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t laugh my head off, though, and that disappointed me. Overall I&#8217;d give it a B. (Technically it is excellent and the music is great. And the anatomy lesson is priceless!)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin P</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger:



Just in case their are any Fidelistas lurking on this thread I will quote from Human Rights Watch,not exactly a right wing organization, and give everyone their take on the workers paradise that Castro has created:



........&quot;Over the past 40 years, Cuba has developed a highly effective machinery of repression. The Denial of basic civil and political rights is written into Cuban Law&quot;...



Yet just the other night I saw on PBS another group of American musicians traveling to Cuba and waxing poetic about how their week or two of artistic expression will bring our two countries together and create a &quot;one world&quot; ethos that will free the world from terror and war.The fact that these artists are not free to leave, freely express their thoughts without fear of repression and jail(by the way this is real censorship, not the trumped up Robbins type, with jail and everything) never broke into the lets hold hands and just love each other propaganda fest that helps Fidel keep his people in bondage.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger:</p>
<p>Just in case their are any Fidelistas lurking on this thread I will quote from Human Rights Watch,not exactly a right wing organization, and give everyone their take on the workers paradise that Castro has created:</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221;Over the past 40 years, Cuba has developed a highly effective machinery of repression. The Denial of basic civil and political rights is written into Cuban Law&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Yet just the other night I saw on PBS another group of American musicians traveling to Cuba and waxing poetic about how their week or two of artistic expression will bring our two countries together and create a &#8220;one world&#8221; ethos that will free the world from terror and war.The fact that these artists are not free to leave, freely express their thoughts without fear of repression and jail(by the way this is real censorship, not the trumped up Robbins type, with jail and everything) never broke into the lets hold hands and just love each other propaganda fest that helps Fidel keep his people in bondage.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin P</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger:



The self importance and ignorance of Tim Robbins and his crew would be funny if it wasn&#039;t so sad. I saw his speech on C-Span where he issued his warnings about the &quot;chill winds&#039; of censorship that was spreading over this country. As usual his paranoid ravings have been shown to be silly by the facts. The number of anti-Bush books, movies, songs, and other forms of entertainment and publications have exploded and I have yet to see anyone jailed, killed, or restrained by the,according to Robbins, nazi like tactics of Bush and Ashcroft.There was even a novel, and I am being generous by using that word, that discussed the reasons why President Bush should be killed. Yet Mr. Baker is free to ply his trade and unless you count literary critisism as censorship he has suffered no harm.



I also find it funny that many of these poor tortured artists have made many visits and gush over that real enemy of free thought and free speech Fidel Castro. Under the guise of reaching out they give support to a man who does jail authors and other artists for thinking and expressing their thoughts. He even jailed a librarian for letting the wrong type of books and articles to be read by the mental prisoners of that poor island.There is no right to vote in Cuba. It is a police state. Yet many of the Oliver Stone types gush over this tyrant, ignoring the proven Human Rights violations this dictator has committed, while at the same time trying to invent imaginary comparisons to Nazi Germany to slime the Bush administration with.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger:</p>
<p>The self importance and ignorance of Tim Robbins and his crew would be funny if it wasn&#8217;t so sad. I saw his speech on C-Span where he issued his warnings about the &#8220;chill winds&#8217; of censorship that was spreading over this country. As usual his paranoid ravings have been shown to be silly by the facts. The number of anti-Bush books, movies, songs, and other forms of entertainment and publications have exploded and I have yet to see anyone jailed, killed, or restrained by the,according to Robbins, nazi like tactics of Bush and Ashcroft.There was even a novel, and I am being generous by using that word, that discussed the reasons why President Bush should be killed. Yet Mr. Baker is free to ply his trade and unless you count literary critisism as censorship he has suffered no harm.</p>
<p>I also find it funny that many of these poor tortured artists have made many visits and gush over that real enemy of free thought and free speech Fidel Castro. Under the guise of reaching out they give support to a man who does jail authors and other artists for thinking and expressing their thoughts. He even jailed a librarian for letting the wrong type of books and articles to be read by the mental prisoners of that poor island.There is no right to vote in Cuba. It is a police state. Yet many of the Oliver Stone types gush over this tyrant, ignoring the proven Human Rights violations this dictator has committed, while at the same time trying to invent imaginary comparisons to Nazi Germany to slime the Bush administration with.</p>
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