Comments on: Burns Out http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:10:10 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Hipocrite http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29669 Hipocrite Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:45:20 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29669 I love how you really stick it to that Burns guy, saying that he's been flogging that same old Iraq=Vietnam story for two whole years. What a hack. I especially hated him in mid September, 2003, regarding Saddam's attrocities. Can you do something about that guy who said that Burns "makes you believe in the possibilities of journalism again?" I think you can find him saying it <a href="http://rogerlsimon.com/archives/00000376.htm" rel="nofollow">here.</a> You and him should compare notes and decide if you two think Burns was good or bad. I love how you really stick it to that Burns guy, saying that he’s been flogging that same old Iraq=Vietnam story for two whole years. What a hack. I especially hated him in mid September, 2003, regarding Saddam’s attrocities.

Can you do something about that guy who said that Burns “makes you believe in the possibilities of journalism again?” I think you can find him saying it here. You and him should compare notes and decide if you two think Burns was good or bad.

]]> By: Salt Lick http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29668 Salt Lick Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:22:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29668 I have a hard time lumping John Burns in with many other agenda-driven, anti-Bush reporters. I will never forget hearing him report from Baghdad as the 3rd ID approached the city from Kuwait. Gwen Ifill had him on by a satellite link to the Lehrer program, and Burns told her that many of the Iraqs he was with were anxiously awaiting liberation by the Americans. Ifill seemed a bit stunned at Burn's candid, pro-invasion reporting. So Burns is someone who gets my ear, even when I don't like what I'm hearing. I have a hard time lumping John Burns in with many other agenda-driven, anti-Bush reporters. I will never forget hearing him report from Baghdad as the 3rd ID approached the city from Kuwait. Gwen Ifill had him on by a satellite link to the Lehrer program, and Burns told her that many of the Iraqs he was with were anxiously awaiting liberation by the Americans. Ifill seemed a bit stunned at Burn’s candid, pro-invasion reporting. So Burns is someone who gets my ear, even when I don’t like what I’m hearing.

]]> By: Michael B http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29667 Michael B Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:18:05 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29667 This <a href="http://www.meforum.org/article/655" rel="nofollow">MEQ report on al-Sadr</a> provides an informative angle to evaluate Iraq from. This MEQ report on al-Sadr provides an informative angle to evaluate Iraq from.

]]> By: Catherine http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29666 Catherine Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:26:06 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29666 My husband has taken to telling me that we are at a "strange" juncture in American history, because liberals are called upon to block "reckless" reforms by conservatives. Does everyone know the famous Buckley definition of conservatism back in 1954? <blockquote>In the 1955 charter of National Review, William F. Buckley defined conservatism as the willingness to ÔøΩ<b>stand athwart history, yelling Stop</b>, at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who do."</blockquote> Over dinner in Paris we were all chuckling over this; heads were nodding as everyone agreed that trying to stop history is, was, and will always be the essential cause of conservatism. So I guess that takes George Bush out of the conservative column. Who's <i>standing athwart</i> these days, guys? http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment050200a.html My husband has taken to telling me that we are at a “strange” juncture in American history, because liberals are called upon to block “reckless” reforms by conservatives.

Does everyone know the famous Buckley definition of conservatism back in 1954?

In the 1955 charter of National Review, William F. Buckley defined conservatism as the willingness to ÔøΩstand athwart history, yelling Stop, at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who do.”

Over dinner in Paris we were all chuckling over this; heads were nodding as everyone agreed that trying to stop history is, was, and will always be the essential cause of conservatism.

So I guess that takes George Bush out of the conservative column.

Who’s standing athwart these days, guys?

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment050200a.html

]]> By: Catherine http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29665 Catherine Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:15:33 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29665 It <b>is</b> an oldies station! Lord help us. I looked at that picture first thing this morning, and while I didn't laugh OUT LOUD, I came close. The weird thing about it, though, was that the image is incredibly beautiful. Minus the caption, it could pass for a front-page shot in the Travel section. It is an oldies station!

Lord help us.

I looked at that picture first thing this morning, and while I didn’t laugh OUT LOUD, I came close.

The weird thing about it, though, was that the image is incredibly beautiful. Minus the caption, it could pass for a front-page shot in the Travel section.

]]> By: Dan-O http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29664 Dan-O Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:00:20 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29664 For the Times and their readers, EVERYTHING is viewed through the prism of Vietnam. It's the Gold Standard by which they measure everything Iraq-related. Remember the Six Degrees of Separation? With the Times, EVERYTHING is roughly one degree of separation from Vietnam. (Sorry for the hyperbole, but you get the point) For the Times and their readers, EVERYTHING is viewed through the prism of Vietnam. It’s the Gold Standard by which they measure everything Iraq-related.

Remember the Six Degrees of Separation? With the Times, EVERYTHING is roughly one degree of separation from Vietnam.

(Sorry for the hyperbole, but you get the point)

]]> By: Mark Poling http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29663 Mark Poling Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:33:34 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29663 ms. anne is probably correct; the U.N. is free enough with it's accounting that some funds may well have found their way to some editor's pockets. Roger, you'll know you've become a major Force for Good when a friend of Kofi takes you to lunch and offers to bankroll your next film, even if you never get around to producing a film. Just let us know when it happens. ms. anne is probably correct; the U.N. is free enough with it’s accounting that some funds may well have found their way to some editor’s pockets.

Roger, you’ll know you’ve become a major Force for Good when a friend of Kofi takes you to lunch and offers to bankroll your next film, even if you never get around to producing a film. Just let us know when it happens.

]]> By: MeTooThen http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29662 MeTooThen Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:01:07 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29662 Roger, I too, saw the <em>NYT</em> cover photo while out getting coffee this morning and had to laugh! That the UN is <em>in</em> NYC and the <em>Times</em> can't (read: won't) find its way to investigate the most important story of fraud and corruption in three generations (or as you put it Roger, a thousand years) borders on the absurd. The <em>NY Times</em> is becomming as irrelevant as the UN. That the two are linked in their loss of credibility is no surprise. But what is surprising is that each organization seems <em>knowingly determined</em> to continue on its ruinous path. For what? Go figure. Roger,

I too, saw the NYT cover photo while out getting coffee this morning and had to laugh!

That the UN is in NYC and the Times can’t (read: won’t) find its way to investigate the most important story of fraud and corruption in three generations (or as you put it Roger, a thousand years) borders on the absurd.

The NY Times is becomming as irrelevant as the UN. That the two are linked in their loss of credibility is no surprise. But what is surprising is that each organization seems knowingly determined to continue on its ruinous path. For what?

Go figure.

]]> By: ms anne http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29661 ms anne Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:53:53 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29661 perhaps, roger, we should fisk relevant nyt bank accounts. this former flagship of journalism has sprung too many holes to maintain its invincible aura--and it drilled the holes by itself with partisan stories and reporters and editors who are biased at best and incompetant at worst. they gave away the news beat. perhaps, roger, we should fisk relevant nyt bank accounts. this former flagship of journalism has sprung too many holes to maintain its invincible aura–and it drilled the holes by itself with partisan stories and reporters and editors who are biased at best and incompetant at worst. they gave away the news beat.

]]> By: Mike Walsh, MM http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29660 Mike Walsh, MM Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:33:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/11/29/burns-out/#comment-29660 1972? I always think of them as "les soixante-huitards" or "68-ers" en anglais. That's the part of French history they identify with. But "oldies station", Kevin? Man, that's cruel . . . 1972? I always think of them as “les soixante-huitards” or “68-ers” en anglais. That’s the part of French history they identify with. But “oldies station”, Kevin? Man, that’s cruel . . .

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