Found this thread because I was googling to learn the identity of “Spengler”.

You said: For a while there, I thought I might be reading Victor Davis Hanson in disguise…..

This is from Spengler’s most recent:

Those who seem to think that such provocations as the murder of Theo van Gogh by terrorists will revive Europe’s will to live, eg Victor Davis Hanson, sadly misestimate the depth to which Europe has sunk.

http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/GC08Aa02.html

By the way, there’s a thread about Spengler’s true identity here:

http://forum.atimes.com/pop_printer_friendly.asp?TOPIC_ID=66

But after feeling very depressed about the apparent suicide of Judeo-Christian culture – (not to mention the siege of Buddhist culture, Tibet – who knows about the fate of Hindu culture in the face of the Islamist onslaught? – what fate awaits Israel if the Palestinians, backed up by the Islamists and cheered on by the suicidal Europeans and American leftists – in fact ultimately succeed in destroying Israel?) – it later occurred to me – isn’t Judaeo-Christian culture rather enlightened after all?

And what if the end of comparative cultural enlightenment is extinction? Maybe its not a defeat after all but simply the end of a people’s journey on earth – leaving the physical realm to cultures who still have much to work through on the earthly plain with all of its suffering?

Because frankly if Islam succeeds in taking over the world, there will without a doubt be a great deal of suffering. And what if that is the point after all? What if the good die young?

Are readers aware of the many articles written by the person writing under the pseudonym “Spengler”? He/she? writes for the Asia Times online: http://www.atimes.com. Scroll down on the left to the bottom icon where it says: “The Complete Spengler” – and then read his/her? many articles dating back to 9/11. The articles include “Writing off Europe”, “Muslim Anguish and Western Hypocricy” and many more. I spent hours reading these articles today and I came away feeling extremely depressed.

To connect this to Roger’s post today, there is simply no way to understand the defeatism among the Europeans and the American “blue states” vis a vis Iraq and the Islamist threat today without absorbing what “Spengler” is saying about the death – no – rather the SUICIDE of western Christian civilization. Just another example actually in a long line of cultures that have essentially committed suicide – whether actively or passively.

His/her many articles explain the forces at work that account for Spain’s (and the Vatican’s appeasement) of Islamism, the Islamization of Europe, the demographic trends shaping Europe, and America- in short – everything that is going on right now as we read and type. Its a very stark picture.

One thing I took away from all these articles was a sense of the forces shaping American culture – in particular – the evangelical Christian movement in America – which Spengler seems to see as not only endlessly reinventing itself but also as bucking the demographic trends among Christianity more broadly. I was left with the sense that the future will be an all out fight between American Christian evangelicals (red staters – who are actually reproducing in sufficient numbers to survive) and Islamists – who will already have taken over Europe in a decade or so.

Anyway – its worth reading through Spengler’s many articles to get a broader perspective on what is going on. It all looks quite familiar actually, but rather scary when outlined so objectively. And again while it is indeed off-topic it should be mentioned in order to give a broader cultural context in which to interpret these otherwise baffling anomolies on our current political/cultural scene: take e.g homosexuality. A culture that champions homosexuality is essentially committing suicide, is it not? (please note that I couldn’t personally care less about homosexuality from a moral perspective, and I suspect that I share that sentiment with many readers of Roger’s blog). The fact is, however, that unless a culture reproduces itself on the order of at least 2.1 offspring per couple, it will die out. These are simply facts.

Hope you will check out “Spengler”’s writings…….

I bet we are out of Iraq before the Russians are out of Chechnya.

But as usual that is different.

What’s next? A treatise on Soviet agricultural innovations? Technological advances made possible by the Cultural Revolution? the 2005 investor’s guide to North Korea?

Consider the source(s).