Comments on: Living in the Post-Rather Universe http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:00:43 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: PeterUK http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31977 PeterUK Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:49:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31977 Powerline has now joined the fray, http://powerlineblog.com/archives/009026.php AP should take notice of Rathergate and come clean now. Powerline has now joined the fray, http://powerlineblog.com/archives/009026.php

AP should take notice of Rathergate and come clean now.

]]> By: Ron http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31976 Ron Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:59:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31976 Reading some of these posts are making me realize something about what happened in Iraq. A foreign entity, a newspaper organization, in the guise of gathering breaking news decides to make some. They hire an unknown person called a ìstingerî who has connections with terrorists and might even be associated with them to film an event in the future which they will help stage. The news organization will make money through syndication of the filming. In other words they are complicit in a scheme to make money utilizing a public event, which happens to be an assassination of the election agents of the recognized government. Now just because they wrap themselves in the parchment of the 1st Amendment, does that make them fire proof for criminal charges which might be brought since they are the contributing financial force for the "news event". Would these killing have occurred if the news organizations hadnít paid for the pictures or pandered to killers for their dissemination of world wide terrorist propaganda? How much was made on pictures like this, what was the overhead costs, what are three poor elections workers worth to the AP on this Christmas Day. Reading some of these posts are making me realize something about what happened in Iraq. A foreign entity, a newspaper organization, in the guise of gathering breaking news decides to make some. They hire an unknown person called a ìstingerî who has connections with terrorists and might even be associated with them to film an event in the future which they will help stage. The news organization will make money through syndication of the filming. In other words they are complicit in a scheme to make money utilizing a public event, which happens to be an assassination of the election agents of the recognized government. Now just because they wrap themselves in the parchment of the 1st Amendment, does that make them fire proof for criminal charges which might be brought since they are the contributing financial force for the “news event”. Would these killing have occurred if the news organizations hadnít paid for the pictures or pandered to killers for their dissemination of world wide terrorist propaganda? How much was made on pictures like this, what was the overhead costs, what are three poor elections workers worth to the AP on this Christmas Day.

]]> By: PeterUK http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31975 PeterUK Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:34:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31975 Cynic, Sorry that should have read those of dubious character or shady background with a proven track record of efficiency. Damn, all the adverts will have to be changed now. Cynic,

Sorry that should have read those of dubious character or shady background with a proven track record of efficiency.

Damn, all the adverts will have to be changed now.

]]> By: Cynic http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31974 Cynic Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:06:56 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31974 PeterUK "I find it extraordinary that the CIA cannot employ those of dubious character or shadey background but the M$M can." Well, under Tenet it certainly seemed as if the CIA was employed by the Dems :-) PeterUK

“I find it extraordinary that the CIA cannot employ those of dubious character or shadey background but the M$M can.”

Well, under Tenet it certainly seemed as if the CIA was employed by the Dems :-)

]]> By: PeterUK http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31973 PeterUK Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:37:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31973 Treason no longer exists,since in the post-modern world personal principles trump loyalty,obligations and nationality.These are just part of the choices that are available to members of the new nuanced society.Moral equivalence rules,there is no right,no wrong,no good, no bad, just choices. Treason no longer exists,since in the post-modern world personal principles trump loyalty,obligations and nationality.These are just part of the choices that are available to members of the new nuanced society.Moral equivalence rules,there is no right,no wrong,no good, no bad, just choices.

]]> By: pajamazon http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31972 pajamazon Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:28:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31972 Can a person actually commit treason today? If such a person chose to provide support to our enemies during wartime would it actually be criminal? Can anyone show me a successful prosecution in the last 50 years? Thanks to a reliance on the MSM for the last half century we've come to expect nothing but mush in public policy. Nothing means anything! If a traitor hired Jonny Cochran most prosecutors would quickly seek a deal. The AP reminds me of Qwest. In reality their assets are just a bunch of wires, but their influence is amazing! I salute this new century and the certain demise of obselete indoctrinators like the AP and Reuters. Can a person actually commit treason today? If such a person chose to provide support to our enemies during wartime would it actually be criminal? Can anyone show me a successful prosecution in the last 50 years? Thanks to a reliance on the MSM for the last half century we’ve come to expect nothing but mush in public policy. Nothing means anything! If a traitor hired Jonny Cochran most prosecutors would quickly seek a deal. The AP reminds me of Qwest. In reality their assets are just a bunch of wires, but their influence is amazing! I salute this new century and the certain demise of obselete indoctrinators like the AP and Reuters.

]]> By: foreign devil http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31971 foreign devil Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:49:55 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31971 Good point, Roger. The Jayson Blair and subsequent Rathergate mess now allow us to ask the press for their bona fides, unlike in the past when they could get away with standing on the principle of freedom of the press from having to expose their sources. Now, due to the Blair and TANG business, we are entitled to ask them to prove the truth of what they assert. Thanks for pointing that out, Roger. Merry Christmas, btw! :^) Good point, Roger. The Jayson Blair and subsequent Rathergate mess now allow us to ask the press for their bona fides, unlike in the past when they could get away with standing on the principle of freedom of the press from having to expose their sources. Now, due to the Blair and TANG business, we are entitled to ask them to prove the truth of what they assert. Thanks for pointing that out, Roger. Merry Christmas, btw! :^)

]]> By: Dishman http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31970 Dishman Sat, 25 Dec 2004 06:35:18 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31970 PeterUK, that was me on Belmont Club. I thought a few minutes before I posted it here as well. BC seems to have an interesting conversation on this. PeterUK, that was me on Belmont Club. I thought a few minutes before I posted it here as well.

BC seems to have an interesting conversation on this.

]]> By: Terrye http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31969 Terrye Sat, 25 Dec 2004 03:12:30 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31969 Needless to say if called on this behavior the AP would jsut hide behind freedom of the press. But I have to tell you if was married to one of the men murdered in the street I would not be buying that. Needless to say if called on this behavior the AP would jsut hide behind freedom of the press.

But I have to tell you if was married to one of the men murdered in the street I would not be buying that.

]]> By: Dishman http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31968 Dishman Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:39:24 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/24/living-in-the-post-rather-universe/#comment-31968 Stringers are paid generally for results. "Definition of solicitation.--A person is guilty of solicitation to commit a crime if with the intent of promoting or facilitating its commission he commands, encourages or requests another person to engage in specific conduct which would constitute such crime or an attempt to commit such crime or which would establish his complicity in its commission or attempted commission." -PA Title 18, S902 IANAL, but it seems to me that if AP is offering payment stringers to produce photographs of as-yet-uncommitted crimes, this comes dangerously close (possibly provably) to solicitation of murder. I don't think costing lives necessarily crosses the line, but solicitation of murder does. Stringers are paid generally for results.

“Definition of solicitation.–A person is guilty of solicitation to commit a crime if with the intent of promoting or facilitating its commission he commands, encourages or requests another person to engage in specific conduct which would constitute such crime or an attempt to commit such crime or which would establish his complicity in its commission or attempted commission.” -PA Title 18, S902

IANAL, but it seems to me that if AP is offering payment stringers to produce photographs of as-yet-uncommitted crimes, this comes dangerously close (possibly provably) to solicitation of murder.

I don’t think costing lives necessarily crosses the line, but solicitation of murder does.

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