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	<title>Comments on: Another Denial of Service Attack on Hosting Matters&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Bishop Hill</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/01/09/another-denial-of-service-attack-on-hosting-matters/#comment-33468</link>
		<dc:creator>Bishop Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the uninitiated among us, is the DOS attack on the host or on one or more sites hosted there?



(I still can&#039;t get LGF)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the uninitiated among us, is the DOS attack on the host or on one or more sites hosted there?</p>
<p>(I still can&#8217;t get LGF)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Peschel</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/01/09/another-denial-of-service-attack-on-hosting-matters/#comment-33467</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Peschel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this makes me wonder if the Islamic sites which post hostage videos and claims of attacks by militant groups don&#039;t get taken down as well. And if not, why not?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this makes me wonder if the Islamic sites which post hostage videos and claims of attacks by militant groups don&#8217;t get taken down as well. And if not, why not?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy P</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/01/09/another-denial-of-service-attack-on-hosting-matters/#comment-33466</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible HM goes down more because they host some of the most popular sites that the Morlochs (sp) want to take down?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible HM goes down more because they host some of the most popular sites that the Morlochs (sp) want to take down?</p>
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		<title>By: Duke</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/01/09/another-denial-of-service-attack-on-hosting-matters/#comment-33465</link>
		<dc:creator>Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hosting Matters is just cheap, not good.  As my old man used to tell me: the most expensive thing in the  world is cheap help.



Every blogger who uses it goes down over and over again and always always always the users just can&#039;t figure it out.  Nobody ever bothers to ask, why it is that Hosting Matters goes down and not anyone else?  It&#039;s Mapes fault but we finally got rid of her so everything is solved.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hosting Matters is just cheap, not good.  As my old man used to tell me: the most expensive thing in the  world is cheap help.</p>
<p>Every blogger who uses it goes down over and over again and always always always the users just can&#8217;t figure it out.  Nobody ever bothers to ask, why it is that Hosting Matters goes down and not anyone else?  It&#8217;s Mapes fault but we finally got rid of her so everything is solved.</p>
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		<title>By: pdq332</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/01/09/another-denial-of-service-attack-on-hosting-matters/#comment-33464</link>
		<dc:creator>pdq332</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the next morning and I can get to all sites except for LGF.



I guess that means we know who the target was!




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the next morning and I can get to all sites except for LGF.</p>
<p>I guess that means we know who the target was!</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/01/09/another-denial-of-service-attack-on-hosting-matters/#comment-33463</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good news!



From the support forum linked above:



&quot;...we managed to trace the attacker back to what looks to be the actual origination point.&quot;



Go get &#039;im.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news!</p>
<p>From the support forum linked above:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;we managed to trace the attacker back to what looks to be the actual origination point.&#8221;</p>
<p>Go get &#8216;im.</p>
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		<title>By: Darleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, HM hosts my site, too.



I&#039;m giddily happy with them, so I&#039;m not going to change.



No host is immune to DOS attacks. &lt;i&gt;How&lt;/i&gt; they react to them is the proof of the pudding..



HM maintains an &lt;a href=&quot;http://hmdnsgroup.net/forums/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Emergency Support Forum&lt;/a&gt; hosted elsewheres so one can get a report on what&#039;s up even as the HM site is under attack.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, HM hosts my site, too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m giddily happy with them, so I&#8217;m not going to change.</p>
<p>No host is immune to DOS attacks. <i>How</i> they react to them is the proof of the pudding..</p>
<p>HM maintains an <a href="http://hmdnsgroup.net/forums/index.php" rel="nofollow">Emergency Support Forum</a> hosted elsewheres so one can get a report on what&#8217;s up even as the HM site is under attack.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the penalties for a DoS attack are reasonably stiff:



The penalty for tampering with the mail is 2 years.



http://www.info.gov.nf/isysrich/legislation/ConsolidatedActs/PostalServicesAct1983.doc#bmk29



Someone found guilty of engaging in a DoS attack will suffer a penalty of 6 months to 5 years in jail and up to a $250,000 fine.



http://ethics.csc.ncsu.edu/abuse/dos/study.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the penalties for a DoS attack are reasonably stiff:</p>
<p>The penalty for tampering with the mail is 2 years.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.info.gov.nf/isysrich/legislation/ConsolidatedActs/PostalServicesAct1983.doc#bmk29" rel="nofollow">http://www.info.gov.nf/isysrich/legislation/ConsolidatedActs/PostalServicesAct1983.doc#bmk29</a></p>
<p>Someone found guilty of engaging in a DoS attack will suffer a penalty of 6 months to 5 years in jail and up to a $250,000 fine.</p>
<p><a href="http://ethics.csc.ncsu.edu/abuse/dos/study.html" rel="nofollow">http://ethics.csc.ncsu.edu/abuse/dos/study.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: goldsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>goldsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if HostingMatters is as good as some of their customers say it is (and I don&#039;t doubt that at all), this is a good reason for webmasters to diversify when they choose hosts. Even though I mostly like Mr Johnson&#039;s work at Little Green Footballs or Mr Reynolds&#039; Instapundit, I wouldn&#039;t want my site hosted on the same server as their sites, as they seem to be a magnet for these stupid and disruptive attacks. It&#039;s bad for so many resources to be hosted at one place, and all get knocked out of commission at once. It&#039;s certainly past time for the penalties for DDOS attacks to become more severe, as web based media and services are becoming quite important in the culture.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if HostingMatters is as good as some of their customers say it is (and I don&#8217;t doubt that at all), this is a good reason for webmasters to diversify when they choose hosts. Even though I mostly like Mr Johnson&#8217;s work at Little Green Footballs or Mr Reynolds&#8217; Instapundit, I wouldn&#8217;t want my site hosted on the same server as their sites, as they seem to be a magnet for these stupid and disruptive attacks. It&#8217;s bad for so many resources to be hosted at one place, and all get knocked out of commission at once. It&#8217;s certainly past time for the penalties for DDOS attacks to become more severe, as web based media and services are becoming quite important in the culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Calico Jack</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/01/09/another-denial-of-service-attack-on-hosting-matters/#comment-33459</link>
		<dc:creator>Calico Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoke too soon.



Can&#039;t get Glenn or Charles.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoke too soon.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t get Glenn or Charles.</p>
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