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		<title>By: Big Jilm</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/09/the-empty-left/#comment-37702</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Jilm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry,



Please note this website&#039;s policy against ad hominem and refrain from the schoolyard taunts, though I&#039;m sure they make you feel like a Big Man.



You have the gall to accuse Comrade Gonzalez of disavowing the Torture Memo?  In Gonzalez&#039; defense, The Left(TM) points out that he stated, in his confirmation hearing, that the administration will sidestep the quaint and obsolete Geneva conventions when it is necessary to prosecute the indefinite War on Terror.



The Left(TM) is glad that you acknowledge that unlawful combatants, as designated by an unreviewable decision by the Glorious Bush Administration, lack full civilian rights.  The Left(TM) goes further, and realizes that such people, have no rights whatsoever, and those who raise concerns about the propriety of beating them to death or sodomizing them with lightsticks are mere bourgeois reactionaries with no place in the New Order the Bush administration is building.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,</p>
<p>Please note this website&#8217;s policy against ad hominem and refrain from the schoolyard taunts, though I&#8217;m sure they make you feel like a Big Man.</p>
<p>You have the gall to accuse Comrade Gonzalez of disavowing the Torture Memo?  In Gonzalez&#8217; defense, The Left(TM) points out that he stated, in his confirmation hearing, that the administration will sidestep the quaint and obsolete Geneva conventions when it is necessary to prosecute the indefinite War on Terror.</p>
<p>The Left(TM) is glad that you acknowledge that unlawful combatants, as designated by an unreviewable decision by the Glorious Bush Administration, lack full civilian rights.  The Left(TM) goes further, and realizes that such people, have no rights whatsoever, and those who raise concerns about the propriety of beating them to death or sodomizing them with lightsticks are mere bourgeois reactionaries with no place in the New Order the Bush administration is building.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/09/the-empty-left/#comment-37701</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is evident that Jilm is a one trick pony using the old leftist tactic of  debate by tedium,Roger&#039;s gallstones are more interesting.I&#039;m off upstairs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is evident that Jilm is a one trick pony using the old leftist tactic of  debate by tedium,Roger&#8217;s gallstones are more interesting.I&#8217;m off upstairs.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/09/the-empty-left/#comment-37700</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>little jim:



There you go again.  The Gonzalez quote was out context and fully refuted at his confirmation hearings.  In fact the two legal scholars brought in by Senator Leahy to discredit the AG were forced to admit that Al Qaeda-ites are not covered by the Geneva Convention and are actually unlawful combatants with the status of Pirates caught on the high seas.  Unlawful combatants, as you might not be aware, have historically been  treated as &quot;hors de combat&quot; when caught on the battlefield.  Now, I know you much more intelligent then I am but just in case you are not familiar with the term I will tell you its meaning.  Hors de Combat means you shoot them where you find them.  Jihadis have no rights under international law.



But suppose you choose to treat them as lawful combatants.  Guess what?  They don&#039;t get American style civilian rights.  The UCMJ dictates their treatment.  The Geneva Convention clearly states that it is unlawful to turn POWs over to the civilian court system. The convention states that unlawful conduct by a POW is to be dealt with by the competent military authority under the military justice system.



Finally, the Nazis were the last country to treat our POWs as dictated by the Geneva Conventions.



Like most Lefties you have the brain like those talking dolls.  Pull the string and get the same stupid phrase.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>little jim:</p>
<p>There you go again.  The Gonzalez quote was out context and fully refuted at his confirmation hearings.  In fact the two legal scholars brought in by Senator Leahy to discredit the AG were forced to admit that Al Qaeda-ites are not covered by the Geneva Convention and are actually unlawful combatants with the status of Pirates caught on the high seas.  Unlawful combatants, as you might not be aware, have historically been  treated as &#8220;hors de combat&#8221; when caught on the battlefield.  Now, I know you much more intelligent then I am but just in case you are not familiar with the term I will tell you its meaning.  Hors de Combat means you shoot them where you find them.  Jihadis have no rights under international law.</p>
<p>But suppose you choose to treat them as lawful combatants.  Guess what?  They don&#8217;t get American style civilian rights.  The UCMJ dictates their treatment.  The Geneva Convention clearly states that it is unlawful to turn POWs over to the civilian court system. The convention states that unlawful conduct by a POW is to be dealt with by the competent military authority under the military justice system.</p>
<p>Finally, the Nazis were the last country to treat our POWs as dictated by the Geneva Conventions.</p>
<p>Like most Lefties you have the brain like those talking dolls.  Pull the string and get the same stupid phrase.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Jilm</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/09/the-empty-left/#comment-37699</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Jilm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye,



Comrade Alberto Gonzalez in January 2002, characterized the Geneva Conventions as quaint and obsolete.  You must also adopt this position if you would like to be of The Left(TM).  I am pleased to see that you agree with The Left(TM) that provocative dress is not torture.  But you must push your revolutionary analysis further to conclude, as the Bush administration&#039;s legal department did, that nothing short of physical pain associated with serious physical injury such as organ failure, impairment of bodily funtion, or even death, constitutes torture.  Only those who agree with the Bush administration that electric shocks, waterboarding, and forcible fingernail removal are not torture will be welcomed by The Left(TM).



Further, it is not just &quot;dealing with&quot; Saudi Arabia and Uzbekistan that The Left(TM) endorses.  We, along with the Bush administration, think those regimes are worthy recipients of military and other forms of aid.  Please refrain from futher disparaging our allies in the Administration by characterizing their association with these worthies as mere &quot;dealing with&quot; or realpolitik - we on The Left(TM) understand that the right dictators must be propped up and vigourously supported at all times if our goal of worldwide repression is to be advanced.



Charlotte,



XXXL please.  Would you be so kind as to include an extra one (same size) for Michael Moore, who we on The Left(TM) uniformly obey with utmost fealty?



PeterUK,



Thank you for the medical advice.  Have you previously performed irondectomies?  If not, can you refer me to a specialist?  Surely you realize that we on The Left(TM), have already met with the Neo-Cons many times.  In fact, they are a wholly-owned subsidiary of our organization.  Thus, I am familiar with all three of the secret handshakes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye,</p>
<p>Comrade Alberto Gonzalez in January 2002, characterized the Geneva Conventions as quaint and obsolete.  You must also adopt this position if you would like to be of The Left(TM).  I am pleased to see that you agree with The Left(TM) that provocative dress is not torture.  But you must push your revolutionary analysis further to conclude, as the Bush administration&#8217;s legal department did, that nothing short of physical pain associated with serious physical injury such as organ failure, impairment of bodily funtion, or even death, constitutes torture.  Only those who agree with the Bush administration that electric shocks, waterboarding, and forcible fingernail removal are not torture will be welcomed by The Left(TM).</p>
<p>Further, it is not just &#8220;dealing with&#8221; Saudi Arabia and Uzbekistan that The Left(TM) endorses.  We, along with the Bush administration, think those regimes are worthy recipients of military and other forms of aid.  Please refrain from futher disparaging our allies in the Administration by characterizing their association with these worthies as mere &#8220;dealing with&#8221; or realpolitik &#8211; we on The Left(TM) understand that the right dictators must be propped up and vigourously supported at all times if our goal of worldwide repression is to be advanced.</p>
<p>Charlotte,</p>
<p>XXXL please.  Would you be so kind as to include an extra one (same size) for Michael Moore, who we on The Left(TM) uniformly obey with utmost fealty?</p>
<p>PeterUK,</p>
<p>Thank you for the medical advice.  Have you previously performed irondectomies?  If not, can you refer me to a specialist?  Surely you realize that we on The Left(TM), have already met with the Neo-Cons many times.  In fact, they are a wholly-owned subsidiary of our organization.  Thus, I am familiar with all three of the secret handshakes.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/09/the-empty-left/#comment-37698</link>
		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye ó Hey, if it didn&#039;t happen &lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt; their favorite Starbucks, it&#039;s all equally unreal...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye ó Hey, if it didn&#8217;t happen <i>in</i> their favorite Starbucks, it&#8217;s all equally unreal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeterUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Left(TM) is a monotone of interchangeable and indistinguishable drones, brainwashed by public school and public television.&quot; Big Jilm



Jilm old chap,I suggest you get an ironectomy,irony is a dangerous technique in the hands of a tyro,read a little Gibbon then work your way up to date.

Wouldn&#039;t do for the rest of your hive thinking you actually mean what you say,could easily be misunderstood out of context.

On the other hand,reading your words,are you really sure you are comfortable on the left?

There are those here who will show you the Neo-con handshake and swear you in.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Left(TM) is a monotone of interchangeable and indistinguishable drones, brainwashed by public school and public television.&#8221; Big Jilm</p>
<p>Jilm old chap,I suggest you get an ironectomy,irony is a dangerous technique in the hands of a tyro,read a little Gibbon then work your way up to date.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t do for the rest of your hive thinking you actually mean what you say,could easily be misunderstood out of context.</p>
<p>On the other hand,reading your words,are you really sure you are comfortable on the left?</p>
<p>There are those here who will show you the Neo-con handshake and swear you in.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the Geneva Conventions I know an old man who spent 36 months in a Japanese POW camp. He had a scar as large as the plam of may hand on his back from a gun shot wound. He was in the Phillipines when it was overrun and still weeps for the nurses, as well as the thousands of men who died.





Imagine how he feels when he hears that panties on a man&#039;s head or being exposed to a woman in thong underwear is torture.



One of the things I resent the most about the left is their deliberate revision of history. Their trvilializing the holocaust by comparing Bush to Hitler and other such insane and ridiculous flights of fancy. They have managed to make rational discourse virtually impossible.



way to Jilmbo.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the Geneva Conventions I know an old man who spent 36 months in a Japanese POW camp. He had a scar as large as the plam of may hand on his back from a gun shot wound. He was in the Phillipines when it was overrun and still weeps for the nurses, as well as the thousands of men who died.</p>
<p>Imagine how he feels when he hears that panties on a man&#8217;s head or being exposed to a woman in thong underwear is torture.</p>
<p>One of the things I resent the most about the left is their deliberate revision of history. Their trvilializing the holocaust by comparing Bush to Hitler and other such insane and ridiculous flights of fancy. They have managed to make rational discourse virtually impossible.</p>
<p>way to Jilmbo.</p>
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		<title>By: charlotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Jilm/Jim,



I am going to fit the Bush Doctrine on a tee just to prove that we can carry a big stick AND use a bold small font for foreign policy.  I could send you a shirt, should you want to add to your political reading, but need to know whether &quot;Big&quot; means you take an extra large size or that you&#039;re an exaggerated reactionary.



What color would you like?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Jilm/Jim,</p>
<p>I am going to fit the Bush Doctrine on a tee just to prove that we can carry a big stick AND use a bold small font for foreign policy.  I could send you a shirt, should you want to add to your political reading, but need to know whether &#8220;Big&#8221; means you take an extra large size or that you&#8217;re an exaggerated reactionary.</p>
<p>What color would you like?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim:



You don&#039;t offer alternatives and you don&#039;t know what you are talking about.



No one who has actually read the Geneva Conventions or the Bush administraion position on them would say that anyone has said they are outdated. The fact that terrorists who do not belong to a signatory of the Conventions and who do not abide by it themselves are one side of the equation complicates things. So far these men have had lawyers, the Red Cross, a chaplain and will have some due process of law which makes it plain that the US is giving them far more rights than they ever gave their hapless victims. But who cares about that?



After all If we can not free everyone, why free anyone? If we can not feed every hungry child, we let them all starve. That is the left&#039;s scorched earth policy is it not? That is the idea behind the snide comments about Saudi Arabia..if you deal with them then all the talk about democracy is just a ruse, a guise for the desire to steal oil or whatever.



And as usual, you are just bitching, snarking. This is why the left has become reactionary. They lack the intellectual honesty to come up with viable alternatives so thay make silly childish comments that requires nothing of them.



I think it will take a long time to bring any from of democratic reform to the region and I think the US will have to deal with some unsavory people to do it, but if we can deal with the French and the UN we can deal with Pakistan.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim:</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t offer alternatives and you don&#8217;t know what you are talking about.</p>
<p>No one who has actually read the Geneva Conventions or the Bush administraion position on them would say that anyone has said they are outdated. The fact that terrorists who do not belong to a signatory of the Conventions and who do not abide by it themselves are one side of the equation complicates things. So far these men have had lawyers, the Red Cross, a chaplain and will have some due process of law which makes it plain that the US is giving them far more rights than they ever gave their hapless victims. But who cares about that?</p>
<p>After all If we can not free everyone, why free anyone? If we can not feed every hungry child, we let them all starve. That is the left&#8217;s scorched earth policy is it not? That is the idea behind the snide comments about Saudi Arabia..if you deal with them then all the talk about democracy is just a ruse, a guise for the desire to steal oil or whatever.</p>
<p>And as usual, you are just bitching, snarking. This is why the left has become reactionary. They lack the intellectual honesty to come up with viable alternatives so thay make silly childish comments that requires nothing of them.</p>
<p>I think it will take a long time to bring any from of democratic reform to the region and I think the US will have to deal with some unsavory people to do it, but if we can deal with the French and the UN we can deal with Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/09/the-empty-left/#comment-37693</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Jilm,surprised you didn&#039;t pick this song for your name.

&quot;you can

piss up a rope

and you can put on your shoes

hit the road get truckin&#039;

pack your bag&quot;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Jilm,surprised you didn&#8217;t pick this song for your name.</p>
<p>&#8220;you can</p>
<p>piss up a rope</p>
<p>and you can put on your shoes</p>
<p>hit the road get truckin&#8217;</p>
<p>pack your bag&#8221;</p>
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